One hour I'm at 800kbps. The next I'm at 2200. Then 200. Then 600. What the hell is going on? Its been like this for weeks. Are they messing with the towers? Where do you guys get your sprint news to know when this stuff is happening. It just seems so eratic. Thoughts?
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Are they messing with the towers?
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It's likely they are for your area:
http://newsroom.sprint.com/press_kits.cfm?presskit_id=19
Gotchya ok. Well that's nice to hear. Hopefully it will all settle down soon. It's been like a month with this crazyness. But I could see that it could take that long to do the many towers in this area, causing congestion and such. Thanks for the info
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Gotchya ok. Well that's nice to hear. Hopefully it will all settle down soon. It's been like a month with this crazyness. But I could see that it could take that long to do the many towers in this area, causing congestion and such. Thanks for the info
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Hopefully you're lucky and that's exactly what's going on in your area.
your lucky. I can't even think about getting those speeds here ever. The MAX i see is about 1.13Mbps and thats at 6am here when no one else is on the tower. During normal hours of the day its 0.16Mbps avg. Just thankful I'm always around wifi connection for the most part.
can't wait till they get to my area and get things rocking.
Seems like once the evo got cheaper **** is slow around here now. I think its just to many users and to much data for one tower to handle.
My 3g was alright on my evo, since i've got my evo3d its almost useless in most locations
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It's likely they are for your area:
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I knew a small amount about their network upgrade, specifically via my interest in 4g (mainly LTE), because I was lied to when I opened my sprint account about 4g availability. Here in Arizona there is next to no 4g [both indoor and outdoor] coverage, and none in my city despite it being the 5 th fastest growing city in the us. Their current Wimax roll out is/was despicable, and an absolute failure. LTE has more potential than Wimax, from the way I hear it the evo 3D should be capable of either frequency spectrum with just a software update (can't verify the accuracy of that fact), but some indoor Wimax would be a huge upgrade for me!
The detail in the article you posted made it an exciting read, thanks for doing the dirty work and finding and posting this little glimmer of hope!
Data on sprint sucks right now...I'm getting a whopping 55k down during the day, and 600k during the evening...I'm not looking forward to iPhone hitting...its going to get much worse
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I knew a small amount about their network upgrade, specifically via my interest in 4g (mainly LTE), because I was lied to when I opened my sprint account about 4g availability. Here in Arizona there is next to no 4g [both indoor and outdoor] coverage, and none in my city despite it being the 5 th fastest growing city in the us. Their current Wimax roll out is/was despicable, and an absolute failure. LTE has more potential than Wimax, from the way I hear it the evo 3D should be capable of either frequency spectrum with just a software update (can't verify the accuracy of that fact), but some indoor Wimax would be a huge upgrade for me!
The detail in the article you posted made it an exciting read, thanks for doing the dirty work and finding and posting this little glimmer of hope!
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Just so you know the general argument LTE > WiMax is the most bogus miss informed crap out there. your comparing standards, and as far as speed is concerned they both offer the same roughly. The reason WiMax gets a bad rap is b/c of the freq spectrum it is rolled out on being 2.5GHz doesn't get much building penetration hence the low coverage areas. If they were to put LTE on the same band WiMax is currently on we all would get identical results.
The only reason this rollout is going to be better and will give LTE a better coverage than WiMax is b/c of the freq they are rolling it out on is much lower, so much better building penetration.
The reason they dont do that with WiMax, is b/c now at this point LTE has been adopted by VZ and in turn has gained a lot of steem form suppliers making the costs to rollout LTE equipment much less than it was when they initially rolled WiMax with Clearwire.
Thanks for your reply, I am educated in physics and had forgotten about your frequency point. However I had read that LTE has the potential for up to 80mbit, where Wimax is much lower. Do you know whether that information is false or not?
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Thanks for your reply, I am educated in physics and had forgotten about your frequency point. However I had read that LTE has the potential for up to 80mbit, where Wimax is much lower. Do you know whether that information is false or not?
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If they were to use more spectrum speeds could be much higher but right now Clearwire is only using 10MHz channels. LTE Advanced/WiMAX 2 are also supposed to speed it up significantly but I'm not even sure if they've finished writing the standards for it yet.
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One hour I'm at 800kbps. The next I'm at 2200. Then 200. Then 600. What the hell is going on? Its been like this for weeks. Are they messing with the towers? Where do you guys get your sprint news to know when this stuff is happening. It just seems so eratic. Thoughts?
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When the speeds are so low, its because all the Hipsters are on break from/at starbucks
Sad Panda said:
I knew a small amount about their network upgrade, specifically via my interest in 4g (mainly LTE), because I was lied to when I opened my sprint account about 4g availability. Here in Arizona there is next to no 4g [both indoor and outdoor] coverage, and none in my city despite it being the 5 th fastest growing city in the us. Their current Wimax roll out is/was despicable, and an absolute failure. LTE has more potential than Wimax, from the way I hear it the evo 3D should be capable of either frequency spectrum with just a software update (can't verify the accuracy of that fact), but some indoor Wimax would be a huge upgrade for me!
The detail in the article you posted made it an exciting read, thanks for doing the dirty work and finding and posting this little glimmer of hope!
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I assure being one the fastest growing cities means nothing to them at this time... It's when you hit the top of the largest cities it matters to them... Cape coral is close to me, used to be the number 1 fastest growing city in America for awhile...
4g is pretty close to me about an 1hr-1.5hr drive to get a connection to 4g, they just can't get the work done to these towers fast enough lol, even in the huge cities the 4g coverage sucks.
Hopefully we will see some speed boosts soon...
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Towers around Depew, NY (3G Speeds)
Download: 950 to 1600 kbps
Upload: 600 to 800 kbps
The one right up the street from me that they "fixed"
Download: 114 to 360 kbps
Upload 550 to 700 kbps
Also apparently i'm now covered by LTE (shakes fist at WiMAX)
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When the speeds are so low, its because all the Hipsters are on break from/at starbucks
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LOL!!
My Home in Aston feels like it has full support as the WiMax & 3G are extremely high (2.5Mbps 3G & 12-15Mbps 4G) In the city of Philadelphia its wonky as hell during the peak hours.
Extremely jealous of you fellas with not only 4g, but fast as balls 3G. My 3G speed is horrible. Tmobile was so much better and faster. They at least had fast 4g.
Just saw this on twitter from android police.
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Just saw this on twitter from android police.
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That is good news! I'm due to call back a higher up in sprint about my horrible so called premium data that is 1X standards.
I get 913 down and 514 up on 3G
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I just got 1mb down, and 1.5mb up on 3g. Not home right now but that's about double my normal home speed.
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Straight from Wikipedia:
In March 2008, the International Telecommunications Union-Radio communications sector (ITU-R) specified a set of requirements for 4G standards, named the International Mobile Telecommunications Advanced (IMT-Advanced) specification, setting peak speed requirements for 4G service at 100 megabits per second (Mbit/s) for high mobility communication (such as from trains and cars) and 1 gigabit per second (Gbit/s) for low mobility communication (such as pedestrians and stationary users).[1]
Since the above mentioned first-release versions of Mobile WiMAX and LTE support much less than 1 Gbit/s peak bit rate, they are not fully IMT-Advanced compliant, but are often branded 4G by service providers. On December 6, 2010, ITU-R recognized that these two technologies, as well as other beyond-3G technologies that do not fulfill the IMT-Advanced requirements, could nevertheless be considered "4G", provided they represent forerunners to IMT-Advanced compliant versions and "a substantial level of improvement in performance and capabilities with respect to the initial third generation systems now deployed".[2]
Mobile WiMAX Release 2 (also known as WirelessMAN-Advanced or IEEE 802.16m') and LTE Advanced (LTE-A) are IMT-Advanced compliant backwards compatible versions of the above two systems, standardized during the spring 2011,[citation needed] and promising peak bit rates in the order of 1 Gbit/s. Services are expected in 2013.[3]
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Basically the real definition of 4G is 100mb/s in trains/cars and 1gb/s standing still. LTE Advanced, which promises these speeds, will probably be advertised as 4.5G just like CDMA was advertised as 3.5G.
If services are expected in 2013, however, Sprint services are expected in 2300.
Yeah this was known already.
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Yeah this was known already.
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Oops, my bad, looks like I'm late to the party.
Yeah, and I have strange feeling that my "3G" isn't really 3G either...lol.
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flonker said:
Yeah, and I have strange feeling that my "3G" isn't really 3G either...lol.
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yep...at times its not even 56k.
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yep...at times its not even 56k.
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i was gonna help people calibrate their 3G to always get a minimum of 500+ kbps...always, not far from 1Mbps (i peak @ 2.2Mbps at 3:30am when no one is on lol)... but thanks to the flamewars and ignorance at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673047 ... im never helping anyone with ****.. so thank them
mmm leech
Tilde88 said:
i was gonna help people calibrate their 3G to always get a minimum of 500+ kbps...always, not far from 1Mbps (i peak @ 2.2Mbps at 3:30am when no one is on lol)... but thanks to the flamewars and ignorance at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673047 ... im never helping anyone with ****.. so thank them
mmm leech
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Thank yourself duschebag. No one needs a cry baby like you. If you don't want to contribute, leave xda. We obviously don't respect you here anymore, due to your childish acting...
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Thank yourself duschebag. No one needs a cry baby like you. If you don't want to contribute, leave xda. We obviously don't respect you here anymore, due to your childish acting...
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fralala more troll... people like you ruin this community.
Tilde88 said:
i was gonna help people calibrate their 3G to always get a minimum of 500+ kbps...always, not far from 1Mbps (i peak @ 2.2Mbps at 3:30am when no one is on lol)... but thanks to the flamewars and ignorance at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673047 ... im never helping anyone with ****.. so thank them
mmm leech
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fralala more troll... people like you ruin this community.
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actually it is people like you that are ruining XDA.
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fralala more troll... people like you ruin this community.
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Uhm, you should slow your roll. You definitely posted the most useless reply. You said you can help someone but your not going to because someone proved a point in another thread and it made you look stupid? Grow up, its time to drop the bottle. Oh, if you're a little angry or tense...unclench and let the stick fall out.
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Didn't Tilde say he was going to leave XDA? Whatever happened to that?
EDIT: Mods please lock this thread before it gets out of hand
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yep...at times its not even 56k.
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lol
Let's not derail this thread guys, because of actions of others in other threads. Just ignore the trolls.
As for the whole "not 4G thing" Well... LOL at least it's faster? It sucks that carriers won't wait for a standard to be made but whatever as long as sprint does its part in the rollout its still going to be hell of a lot faster than 3G. Even wimax is beauty compared
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isn't this common knowledge?
I'd assume thats the same all around the world where they have "4G" available.
So why are carriers and manufacturers advertising it as 4G when the standard doesn't exist so far?
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I'd assume thats the same all around the world where they have "4G" available.
So why are carriers and manufacturers advertising it as 4G when the standard doesn't exist so far?
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Two words money grab
ace9988 said:
I'd assume thats the same all around the world where they have "4G" available.
So why are carriers and manufacturers advertising it as 4G when the standard doesn't exist so far?
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The reason they did it, sprint specifically, is because their was no standard. And since their was none they had nothing stopping them from advertising it as 4G. They might have even been hoping to set the standard before clearwires debt got in the way.
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I think they messed up when specifying what the 4g standard speeds should be. We won't see 1 gigabit download speeds for YEARS, like most us will probably be dead before that happens. I think LTE should be labeled as 4g as it is a next generation of technology and speed as compared to cdma and gsm so I don't blaim carriers for doing that.
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I think they messed up when specifying what the 4g standard speeds should be. We won't see 1 gigabit download speeds for YEARS, like most us will probably be dead before that happens. I think LTE should be labeled as 4g as it is a next generation of technology and speed as compared to cdma and gsm so I don't blaim carriers for doing that.
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While it won't be 1 gigabit, it will still be a whopping amount depending on what frequency carriers use. Maybe around 500-700 mbs or lower?
And since other people will be sharing the connection, you'll end up with around 100-300 mbs which is still insane.
To put it in to relativity, LTE is supposed to be 75mb/s but the end user receives 10-20mb/s.
If 3G to LTE was a 10x higher difference, LTE to LTE Advanced was a 10x higher jump, I think we can guess that 5g will be 10x higher than 4g LTE. This means 5G should be 1GB/s to the end user. I'm pretty sure 5G will be out in our lifetimes.
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While it won't be 1 gigabit, it will still be a whopping amount depending on what frequency carriers use. Maybe around 500-700 mbs or lower?
And since other people will be sharing the connection, you'll end up with around 100-300 mbs which is still insane.
To put it in to relativity, LTE is supposed to be 75mb/s but the end user receives 10-20mb/s.
If 3G to LTE was a 10x higher difference, LTE to LTE Advanced was a 10x higher jump, I think we can guess that 5g will be 10x higher than 4g LTE. This means 5G should be 1GB/s to the end user. I'm pretty sure 5G will be out in our lifetimes.
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While the technology can support that, I don't see any carriers backhaul being able to support that kind of bandwidth. They would need to do a monumental overhaul to get those kind of speeds to every customer. Sprint ran into this issue with their network and now they ate redoing their entire network. And while it will be a huge upgrade, even that won't be able to handle delivering "true" 4G speeds to everyone.
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I live in Minnesota, there is Wimax coverage in the cities that I use a lot.
I know Sprint is rolling out new tower updates, but I don't think they have done jack squat in Minnesota.
I currently have a Epic 4G Touch with AOKP, my 3G speeds are horrible everywhere. I would be lucky if 3G speeds are .20 Mbps. The saving grace is Wimax that I use everyday for work. My work internet is slow, so I tether my Wimax, speeds are decent.
With that said, the EVO 4G LTE isn't even Wimax compatible, and I have no clue when they are going to start 3G tower upgrading let alone LTE here in Minnesota.
What's the point of having a data plan if I have to be on Wifi to use the phone effectively.
So to you owners without LTE and their new 3G, how are you handling it?
having this same dilemna. 3g is so so in my are. usually b/t 200-400kbps.
We have wimax but its not all that great either. I love my epic touch 4g but im just ready for something new. Decisions.
I love this EVO & I have good 3G.
If you have WiMAX now, dismal 3G & you aren't in a 1st, 2nd or pending wave NV/LTE region (don't focus on the city name on the rollout list, if you're near the city, you're fine) I say no.
Test the EVO LTE's speed in store as it runs 3G better, just to get an idea on if you could tolerate that performance, vs judging from your existing phone.
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I have no WiMAX in my area so LTE won't matter to me. 3g is fast enough around here for when I'm not on WiFi.
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I also live in Minnesota and my 3g speed doubled from my og evo
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Usually I am near a wifi so this isn't a big deal for me when wifi actually works. 3g is good enough to stream pandora and check email on the road.
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its worth it. get the phone if you can.
i leave wifi on. this phone utilizes wifi so well and is so energy efficient compared to the evo 4g. im amazed. so i just leave it on.
3g gets turned on when im away from the house.
by the looks of it, lte round 2 rollout will probably be sooner than i thought. hopefully.
Well the short of it is if you truly use wimax every day and you are not in one of the first cities then keep your current phone...otherwise you'll have to go to wifi or suffer through the 3G in your area...
btw here is Mn NetworkVision rollout...http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...in-network-visionlte-in-the-2nd-half-of-2012/
I was told 2 weeks ago that Memphis will have LTE in Oct
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I was told 2 weeks ago that Memphis will have LTE in Oct
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click that link i posted up there....they start this month supposedly and have first sites live in July sometime....now if they do the same LTE blockout like they are right now till they are ready with more sites to bring on at once who knows...
My 3G coverage is perfectly fine here in Colorado Springs. I wasnt using wimax on my OG EVO anyway so Im not missing anything. And actually I feel like this phone is having a better signal on 3G than my OG was.
Yes.
I live in Minnesota (Eagan) and here are my recent results from a few minutes ago. With my nexus s 4g I never broke 1.2Mbps down and up was usually around 350 kbps. Something is better about the 3g in this phone. I can't believe the up results.
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I live in Minnesota (Eagan) and here are my recent results from a few minutes ago. With my nexus s 4g I never broke 1.2Mbps down and up was usually around 350 kbps. Something is better about the 3g in this phone. I can't believe the up results.
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thank you for that info, i live in columbia heights and the 3g is so bad here its a joke. Would you say the call quality (dropped calls etc) is better vs your old device? And do we have anyone from the north metro reading here? My kid lives in coon rapids/ blaine area. I was wondering if the new evo is better there also.
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thank you for that info, i live in columbia heights and the 3g is so bad here its a joke. Would you say the call quality (dropped calls etc) is better vs your old device? And do we have anyone from the north metro reading here? My kid lives in coon rapids/ blaine area. I was wondering if the new evo is better there also.
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I've only made two calls and they were both good. I discovered during the calls the tiny microphone hole is easy to cover with my pinky though which annoyed me but i will get used to that. I never had problems on my old phone with dropped calls though.
No.
Is it even worth it if you live in an area without LTE anytime soon?
No. After the newness wears off, it's just another late model Android phone. Seriously.
If it were on VZW's LTE network, it would be worth all the accolades. But on Sprint's third world data network, it's no faster than any other smartphone on their network. Sure apps open quickly, but need data? Get ready for the scrolling progress wheel.
I have one. It's a pleasure to hold, but I use my Droid 4 when I leave the house. It's world's faster than the EVO.
A separate question is, why would anyone be on Sprint, if not for price, these days? I know that's why I'm on it.
(And for the masses 'satisfied' with 3g - Sprint has you right where they want you. I'm sure there were lots of people on dial-up saying "I don't need DSL" 15 years ago... The difference is night and day.).
Figured they'd flip the switch in Atlanta already, in time for their delayed launch. No such luck!
If you want the best phone on the market today that will function until 800 LTE arrives then this phone is for you. This phone IMHO future proof until 2014 LTE roll out. SVDO, and HD voice smooth fluid software interaction, excellent appearance screen wise, build quality, and weight makes this the best Android phone on the market.
This is my opinion from ny handling it yesterday in a Sprint store. SGIII may be faster, but other than "SPEED" the EVO 4g LTE has feature thatmost people will love to have. The number one feature that it has is SVDO, number two HD voice future hardware built in.
If I needed a phone today even if it didn't have LTE this is the one to have! If I don't need a phone I could wait, and I am waiting, but I am leaning towards this and in a few weeks if there are no bugs.......my Photon in immaculate condition is out!
I would say it depends on the way you use your phone.
If you use data intensive apps like I do (netflix, plex, youtube) then no.
I use wimax multiple times thru out my day so I would sorely miss it.
I pr-ordered one from Wirefly because $119 was just too good to pass up.
But cancelled later on because I would be kicking myself after newness wore off and I was stuck on 3G for thenext couple of months until LTD is expected to be launched in NYC.
I say yes for obvious reasons but the one fun fact about this phone is.....You can talk AND surf the web at the same time on 3G!! I see people get upset about the fact they don't have LTE yet or it's not coming to their area anytime soon. Lest we forget my fellow EVO users we did the SAME EXACT THING when the OG EVO was released. WiMax was a big deal but at least LTE is rolled out already in some places. WiMax was non-existent at that time and that didn't stop any of us from pre-ordering and waiting in line for that breakthrough in technology. This phone is no different. It's cutting edge technology and, TRUST ME, when you use the phone and see that screen, you're not gonna give a rat's bottom about LTE. You would, like me, stick to WiFi or 3G and be cool with it until LTE comes to your town the same way we did with WiMax. This phone is light years ahead of the OG and the speed and functionality are unmatched, in my opinion. I find a new feature everyday and I've had my phone since the 25th. I say try it and feel it out. You don't like it return it for your money within the Return Policy and wait for the next big thing. You have nothing to lose and you can see for yourself if you wanna keep it or wait. I can almost guarantee once you use it, it's almost impossible to go back to the OG.
According to PC Mag.com Sprint has the worst...at times where Metro PCS and Sprint has coverage in the same area...Metro PCS has faster data speeds....This is pretty pathetic...
http://www.pcmag.com/fastest-mobile-networks
I undertstand network vision is supposed to make Sprint service and data speeds better...but at times I have my doubts....
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According to PC Mag.com Sprint has the worst...at times where Metro PCS and Sprint has coverage in the same area...Metro PCS has faster data speeds....This is pretty pathetic...
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2405617,00.asp
I undertstand network vision is supposed to make Sprint service and data speeds better...but at times I have my doubts....
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Those are all lies! Sprints 3G Speeds work great at 3am and nobody is on it!
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Those are all lies! Sprints 3G Speeds work great at 3am and nobody is on it!
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Its sad, but true.
Not only does Sprint's speeds suck; but also like to charge every customer an extra $10 amonth for a 4g service that is only in a handful of areas. I live in Rancho Cordova (Sacramento Co.), CA and we've never had 4g. Sprint also had no intentions of updated my area with 4g, but still more then happy to charge all of us for it.
WUESTSIDER X!
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Not only does Sprint's speeds suck; but also like to charge every customer an extra $10 amonth for a 4g service that is only in a handful of areas. I live in Rancho Cordova (Sacramento Co.), CA and we've never had 4g. Sprint also had no intentions of updated my area with 4g, but still more then happy to charge all of us for it.
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The $10 fee isnt for 4G. Its for "premium data"...having the worst speeds must be the "premium data".
I didn't read the whole article but it seems like those results are for memphis :-\ I think we all know speeds are different depending on the area you're in. Sprint definitely isn't the fastest in my area, but it works for me. And if sprint was really that bad why in hell did you guys renewed your contracts anyways?
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According to PC Mag.com Sprint has the worst...at times where Metro PCS and Sprint has coverage in the same area...Metro PCS has faster data speeds....This is pretty pathetic...
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2405617,00.asp
I undertstand network vision is supposed to make Sprint service and data speeds better...but at times I have my doubts....
If this has been posted before....my bad...and delete thread...
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ZERO reason to have any doubts about speeds improving once NetworkVision is deployed in your area....Solves 99% of the issues, which the main one is capacity on the backhaul of the sites....that upgrade alone yields most problems fixed for the capacity troubled areas.....which id venture to say is most....
can't expect much from using bundled T1 lines for backhaul now a days....the equipment being deployed at the cell site's and also switch centers is state of the art stuff...watch the videos fromt he ALU presentation if you want. some BIG changes coming...
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I didn't read the whole article but it seems like those results are for memphis :-\ I think we all know speeds are different depending on the area you're in. Sprint definitely isn't the fastest in my area, but it works for me. And if sprint was really that bad why in hell did you guys renewed your contracts anyways?
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Yes yes, well said. People act so surprise when they see something like this, old freaking news about sprint. Sprint might be garbage now but it work in my area well and same goes with other carrier, good in some area and not so great in others. My main thing about sprint is not about their current speed of data but the unlimited plan which save us a lot of money.
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According to PC Mag.com Sprint has the worst...at times where Metro PCS and Sprint has coverage in the same area...Metro PCS has faster data speeds....This is pretty pathetic...
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2405617,00.asp
I undertstand network vision is supposed to make Sprint service and data speeds better...but at times I have my doubts....
If this has been posted before....my bad...and delete thread...
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You use........ Too many........... Periods.........
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You use........ Too many........... Periods.........
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Yah I do that often
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ZERO reason to have any doubts about speeds improving once NetworkVision is deployed in your area....Solves 99% of the issues, which the main one is capacity on the backhaul of the sites....that upgrade alone yields most problems fixed for the capacity troubled areas.....which id venture to say is most....
can't expect much from using bundled T1 lines for backhaul now a days....the equipment being deployed at the cell site's and also switch centers is state of the art stuff...watch the videos fromt he ALU presentation if you want. some BIG changes coming...
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I hope so.
shook187 said:
I didn't read the whole article but it seems like those results are for memphis :-\ I think we all know speeds are different depending on the area you're in. Sprint definitely isn't the fastest in my area, but it works for me. And if sprint was really that bad why in hell did you guys renewed your contracts anyways?
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The results are for multiple areas....
Edit: I see what you are talking about. I posted the correct link in the op. The article has multiple cities tested.
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Yah I do that often
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Whenever someone does that, I can't help but feel like they're all gloomy and dark and depressing. Haha
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i don't know about you guys but i pull a steady 2 mpbs on my 3g just about anywhere in my town. and my town hasn't even gotten the network vision yet
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i don't know about you guys but i pull a steady 2 mpbs on my 3g just about anywhere in my town. and my town hasn't even gotten the network vision yet
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Thats nice. I hope I had that in my area...
Looks pretty fast to me
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And for mr.slaughter.....
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Looks pretty fast to me
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Yea...but even with Sprint LTE its slower than ATT or Verizon LTE...
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2405608,00.asp
I didn't need an article to know sprint's 3g is awful.... I just am dealing with it for now in the hopes LTE actually pans out. I also hope it functions a whole lot better than 4G wimax did (i.e. if you were on the move you could never keep a 4g wimax signal).
Consistantly I get around .8-1.6 here and sometimes even around 2.2 which is definitely nice IMO but either way I am happy with sprint personally and dont have any reason to complain. I am tired of seeing "My Carrier Sucks" all by itself when it SHOULD read, "My Carrier Sucks For ME In MY Area". Sprint isn't a big carrier because they suck, the have obviously done certain things right and made SOME people happy like me. Not meant to be mean but it all boils down to your experience and area to be honest.
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I haven't found them to be any slower than my friends Verizon 3G speeds.
So since everyone else has started their threads on LTE in their area I decided to start my own on why I cannot get any what so ever. I am truly disappointed as j waited for July 15 just like everyone else yet failed to receive any 4G. I have updated my prl my profile rebooted my phone even hard reset it all to no avail. It makes me wonder am I the only one without any LTE. I live by the I10 and 610 intersection. Your responses will be greatly appreciated!
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No lte for me in fort worth .
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So since everyone else has started their threads on LTE in their area I decided to start my own on why I cannot get any what so ever. I am truly disappointed as j waited for July 15 just like everyone else yet failed to receive any 4G. I have updated my prl my profile rebooted my phone even hard reset it all to no avail. It makes me wonder am I the only one without any LTE. I live by the I10 and 610 intersection. Your responses will be greatly appreciated!
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None in Sugar Land either, 99 & 90 area.
LTE live on the northeast of Houston
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LTE live at hwy 6 and 529
I've been trying since Sunday and have only connected to LTE briefly twice. Once in the medical center and once by my house on the NW side of town, near West Rd. & Queenston. Both times were standing outside and I had to update profile in order to get the signal. I tried a speed test and was getting ~2.4 mbps down before losing the signal.
I'm not impressed. Hopefully it'll get better soon...
Nothing in Kingwood either. According to S4GRU http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/212-network-visionlte-deployment-running-list/ Houston is only 14% complete. Pretty weak launch numbers. If you are a contributor to the site you can see where the live towers are.
I'm in the same area as you and i get it. I stay near northshore senior high campus. But drove through i10 and 610 and held signal until getting off at Lockwood exit.
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yeah, being a sponsor at s4gru.com, it seems that the current coverage is VERY thin..should be much better in a couple of weeks when sprint accepts more towers from the vendor.
There is LTE in Houston, but it is very very spotty. I get it outside of my work building, but nowhere near my home in Montrose, nor in the Medical Center. I drove from Bellaire to Westheimer and Fountain View with not one 4G signal along the way. WTF?! Sprint is dropping the ball big time.
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Nothing in Kingwood either. According to S4GRU http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/212-network-visionlte-deployment-running-list/ Houston is only 14% complete. Pretty weak launch numbers. If you are a contributor to the site you can see where the live towers are.
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I caught 4G at the end of kingwood drive near riverwood on 7/15. Measured about 8/3.
Edit: OP, seriously, just chill. They turned on *some* towers on 7/15, but they're nowhere near done. Estimated 100% completion for houston is february 2013. Don't get all pouty about a brand-new service that you haven't been able to use yet. Very, VERY few of us have stable LTE connections.
No 4g for me out here in the Wilcrest/Briar Forest area.
Here is what I got on I-10W about to get to downtown:
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I got 4G from downtown to ~610 on I-10W. I noticed that I had to toggle airplane mode when it got stuck on 3G in order to get it back to 4G.
No LTE on the east side. I was able to get LTE for one minute yesterday July 15th around I-10 and Taylor. Here is the speedtest I took when I had LTE for one minute.
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I live in sugar land and have yet to see my phone say 4g. It makes me wonder why they show such a large are covered on their coverage map. Shouldn't the map reflect current coverage and not sprint's hopes and dreams?
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msimindlessmsi2 said:
Shouldn't the map reflect current coverage and not sprint's hopes and dreams?
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I couldnt agree more. Here is the current map sprint has online :
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yeah, being a sponsor at s4gru.com, it seems that the current coverage is VERY thin..should be much better in a couple of weeks when sprint accepts more towers from the vendor.
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vendors... do remember there are three. From what I have "heard" there are also a number of towers ready to go, just waiting on one key element
I second that...give it a few weeks and even beyond that...it is going to continue to get better from here..
msimindlessmsi2 said:
I live in sugar land and have yet to see my phone say 4g. It makes me wonder why they show such a large are covered on their coverage map. Shouldn't the map reflect current coverage and not sprint's hopes and dreams?
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The maps still showed "coming soon" last I checked. The media had kind of run wild with the limited soft launch information Sprint provided...has left consumer expectations very high. I am sure Sprint wants it up and running just as quickly as the customers do.
Everyone concerned with lte should follow and actually read the developments of the network that s4gru.com posts and chill out.
Example as follows (credit to Robert most definitely for his tweets and the entire S4GRU site)
S4GRU EDITORIAL: C'mon people, you really do want access to the LTE network early, right? http://t.co/H9PlCARf -- Sprint 4G Rollout (@Sprint4Grollout)
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vendors... do remember there are three. From what I have "heard" there are also a number of towers ready to go, just waiting on one key element
I second that...give it a few weeks and even beyond that...it is going to continue to get better from here..
The maps still showed "coming soon" last I checked. The media had kind of run wild with the limited soft launch information Sprint provided...has left consumer expectations very high. I am sure Sprint wants it up and running just as quickly as the customers do.
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No, vendor. There are three vendors, but only one in the Houston market. The vendors dont seem to share markets.
I do get where u are coming from. And Robert has a point as well. But from what everyone is going through I really don't blame them for being a bit frustrated. This isn't even a decent launch. From what I hear no one is getting constant lte. If this was a month ago then it would be understandable but not for a hyped up nationwide launch.
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I sure do wish that I had some 4g wimax sometimes. This phone was suppose to have awesome 3g speeds but mostly it just sucks ass. What do ya'll think. Im in Plano Texas north of Dallas Texas. Really pissing me off. I think Sprint should go take out a loan and get LTE GOING.
3g sucks ass down here mostly but LTE is great, only going to get better as network vision continues. ive yet to read anything on this phone that said it was supposed to have awesome 3g speeds. a phone cant magically make sprints under capacitied 3g network suddenly great.
2k4mach said:
3g sucks ass down here mostly but LTE is great, only going to get better as network vision continues. ive yet to read anything on this phone that said it was supposed to have awesome 3g speeds. a phone cant magically make sprints under capacitied 3g network suddenly great.
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Before the phone came out they said that LTE 3g speeds would be faster than the 3g speeds we had before.
What would make this phones 3g speeds on this device any different from any other device? I mean a crappy network is a crappy network. If anything I think it has worse speed and reception than my photon. But that phones radios where awesome.
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Before the phone came out they said that LTE 3g speeds would be faster than the 3g speeds we had before.
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That my friend, is a Marketing tactic called False Advertising.
Sprint is working on upgrading their network. 3G speeds and coverage will get better as they continue their "Operation Leapfrog" aka "Network Vision" rollout. The EVO LTE cannot connect to WiMAX. LTE and WiMAX are two different 4G technologies.
Mines an EVO WiFi phone! I got the special edition with broken radios. I'm trading it in for a normal 4G LTE on Wednesday when they get a shipment in. Until then, I'm rocking a Samsung Exclaim!
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Before the phone came out they said that LTE 3g speeds would be faster than the 3g speeds we had before.
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They didn't say the phone would cause that, they said that their Network Vision upgrades would. Which they are still working on.
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there's verizon 4g lte out in my area at I really wish I could roam onto -_-
sadly i dont think sprint will put wimax or LTE in my area for years to come
Let's just change the General section to Complaints.
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Let's just change the General section to Complaints.
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Haha right! I Mena LTE just started to roll out a couple of weeks ago. Dude you in Texas. I'm sure you have e a good chance of seeing it first over most in the country. Just chill. GIve it some time. Sooner or later things will work out.
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I sure do wish that I had some 4g wimax sometimes. This phone was suppose to have awesome 3g speeds but mostly it just sucks ass. What do ya'll think. Im in Plano Texas north of Dallas Texas. Really pissing me off. I think Sprint should go take out a loan and get LTE GOING.
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What part of Plano. I got brief spots of coverage at independence and Plano parkway and from coit up to Parker but that was all I was able to test.
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Let's just change the General section to Complaints.
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Lol
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cswtexas9 said:
Before the phone came out they said that LTE 3g speeds would be faster than the 3g speeds we had before.
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That my friend, is a Marketing tactic called False Advertising.
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Absolutely NOT a marketing tactic...sorry but if you paid attention to only the part you wanted to, then that is your own fault....they never said the 3G speed of this particular device would be faster than other devices 3G speeds....
They said they are in the middle of rolling out nationwide network overhaul that in turn will vastly increase the 3G speeds in the troubled areas where capacity is an issue...
Change is coming and coming soon...ppl need to just quit complaining about the speeds and data issues at this point or just move onto another carrier...If they somehow dont hit their projected completion of NV rollouts of end of next year(which initially was set to 2015!!) then I can understand hearing complaints then...till then though.....nothing has changed in years so why complain now?...suck it up and deal with what we all already knew, or move on and enjoy your tiered data plan....
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Absolutely NOT a marketing tactic...sorry but if you paid attention to only the part you wanted to, then that is your own fault....they never said the 3G speed of this particular device would be faster than other devices 3G speeds....
They said they are in the middle of rolling out nationwide network overhaul that in turn will vastly increase the 3G speeds in the troubled areas where capacity is an issue...
Change is coming and coming soon...ppl need to just quit complaining about the speeds and data issues at this point or just move onto another carrier...If they somehow dont hit their projected completion of NV rollouts of end of next year(which initially was set to 2015!!) then I can understand hearing complaints then...till then though.....nothing has changed in years so why complain now?...suck it up and deal with what we all already knew, or move on and enjoy your tiered data plan....
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+1 Burn.
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Absolutely NOT a marketing tactic...sorry but if you paid attention to only the part you wanted to, then that is your own fault....they never said the 3G speed of this particular device would be faster than other devices 3G speeds....
They said they are in the middle of rolling out nationwide network overhaul that in turn will vastly increase the 3G speeds in the troubled areas where capacity is an issue...
Change is coming and coming soon...ppl need to just quit complaining about the speeds and data issues at this point or just move onto another carrier...If they somehow dont hit their projected completion of NV rollouts of end of next year(which initially was set to 2015!!) then I can understand hearing complaints then...till then though.....nothing has changed in years so why complain now?...suck it up and deal with what we all already knew, or move on and enjoy your tiered data plan....
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I dunno, It seems like 3G on my LTEVO sucks worse than normal. I just came from the GNEX and was getting respectable speeds (as respectable as sprint can get I guess) but right now I'm getting nothing above 20 Kilobytes/ps... I'm in Orlando, Fl so I'm hoping maybe they are working on showing us some LTE love right now to explain the recent drought in data.
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I dunno, It seems like 3G on my LTEVO sucks worse than normal. I just came from the GNEX and was getting respectable speeds (as respectable as sprint can get I guess) but right now I'm getting nothing above 20 Kilobytes/ps... I'm in Orlando, Fl so I'm hoping maybe they are working on showing us some LTE love right now to explain the recent drought in data.
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3g speeds have been the same in the last two years.... Actually longer than that.. . It's been pretty crappy.