I've been wondering if there's a way to do a full apps2sd without making a partition on the sd card. My ace is running a stock rom. Rooted and running 2.3.5. The internal memory really sucks and I'm thinking of getting a 8GB micro sd just to store it all.
Any hints or tips?
what do u mean by "full"?
if u just search a2sd on market, many of it will allow moving app to sdcard without even creating partition. but it just move apk tho. dalvik cache and data still occupy internal memory.
an0nym0us_ said:
what do u mean by "full"?
if u just search a2sd on market, many of it will allow moving app to sdcard without even creating partition. but it just move apk tho. dalvik cache and data still occupy internal memory.
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I have an app called app 2 SD from the market and I don't think it does what it says. If all the apps were installed on the SD, wouldn't the internal memory be almost completely free? Or do I have a misunderstanding of apps2sd? Unless the apps2sd are different for custom roms or something?
u need to also install a2sd enabler to be able to move all apps that previously restricted by android system to only install in internal. but then most widget would be unusable if move to sdcard using that a2sd app from market. and also as i said earlier, it will only move apk. dalvik cache and data still occupy internal so it will eventually become cluttered and full again.
also i think users here if talking about a2sd, it means darktremore a2sd script. it allow moving full dalvik cache and data to sdcard without giving problem to widgets, but it needs second sdcard partition.
so to answer ur question, and if by "full" u mean full moving of dalvik cache and data to sdcard without second partition, no... theres no a2sd app that can move dalvik cache and data to sdcard without second partition. none that i can think of. darktremore a2sd script and similar variant script that can fully move dalvik cache and data to sdcard needs second partition.
the simplest way is make an ext partition using cwm recovery and use link2sd to link the apps to sd card. it also moves the dalvik cache and dex to sd. I am using link2sd and it does what it meant to
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Hi there
as I asked, I really want to know how these things actually work.
From my understanding, even though we have App2SD, the internal memory is still decreased everytime we install new app because it will generate the cache for that application (I tried install 5mb app, and what i get is i lost around 1mb of internal memory) is what I understand correct??
Now I currently have 150+ app installed in my phone with App2SD and I have 27mb internal memory left. If I move the dalvik-cache, my internal memory will boost up to 98mb. And if I install more apps, the internal memory won't be decreased anymore. but should I move the dalvik-cache?
According to some thread, it said that we shouldn't move dalvik-cache since it will make phone slower. But in my case I only have 27mb left in my internal memory so I can only install around 30 more apps. What do you suggest in this case?
Thx so much
PS. I attach the photo, pls have a look, why there are so much memory used in Data? thx
moving /data/data to sd would better than dalvik cache
tempo10 said:
moving /data/data to sd would better than dalvik cache
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Thank you, I did it but still... when I install apps, my internal memory is deceased Because dalvik-cache still affects my internal memory right? But I think I lost less internal memory compare to before(without moving /data/data to sd)
Is this mean I have limited of app installation even though I have app2sd?
thx
yes,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalvik_virtual_machine
you may take at look at DalvikVM so you would know what does dalvik-cache do actually.
Rather than moving /data/data,
you may try to delete market, google map, browser cache and make a symlink to sdcard as well
tempo10 said:
yes,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalvik_virtual_machine
you may take at look at DalvikVM so you would know what does dalvik-cache do actually.
Rather than moving /data/data,
you may try to delete market, google map, browser cache and make a symlink to sdcard as well
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Where is the cache located for market and browser? What folder/files do you actually symlink to sd card and how do you do it?
Goose247 said:
Where is the cache located for market and browser? What folder/files do you actually symlink to sd card and how do you do it?
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yeah, I would like to know how as well haha
Can you teach us how to delete market, google map, browser cache and make a symlink to sdcard?
thank you
i would like to know too.. please do tell
I have a stock N1 with Android 2.2.1 build FRG83D. The phone has an unlocked bootloader, and I have rooted the phone.
My issue is that I have no more app space. I am down to almost 20MB of app memory, and I want to move the dalvik-cache to the cache partition. I did reformat my SD card so that is has three partitions on it.
I tried to run the a2sd Dark Tremor script, but I don't think it will work because the boot.img file won't support mounting to the ext partition. In short, I ran into issues as the cache files would not move.
Does anybody know how I can move the dalvik-cache from app over the cache on a stock N1?
Thanks!
So i use megatron rom with app2sd. I install so many apps and without i notice my phone memory decreasing to 15mb. But my app2sd space are 350mb. And 'text message memory full' appear in my notification bar means i cant receive a new text message. And after i reboot my phone, some of my apps and games in the menu are gone. And when i trt to uninstall things it took forever same as if i try to install apps from the market.
Of course i know how to fix this, just format my phone. BUT i need to backup all my pictures, music and things and backup my apps using titanium back. But the problem is like i said some of my apps are gone and i cant backup them all!
I plan to wipe my dalvik cache in the custom recovery to free my phone memory. Is it ok? Will my apps get deleted if i do that?
Help!
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I recommend u back up ur music and pictures in a pc and flash void rom
ccdreadcc said:
I recommend u back up ur music and pictures in a pc and flash void rom
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The problem is, i cant connect my phone to pc using the usb. When i check the 'mass storage only', it stay like that forever. There is no 'turn on usb storage' message appear.
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use a card reader
try reflashing megatron ,might work.
try entering this in terminal a2sd cachesd
Note: If you apply Darktremor Apps2SD and still notice internal storage is decreasing, this is due to the dalvik-cache not being moved. By default, Darktremor Apps2SD will not move the dalvik-cache on boot.
If you want to move the dalvik-cache to the sd card, type:
a2sd cachesd (move dalvik to sd card)
a2sd cachesdreset (move dalvik to sd card and clears contents of dalvik-cache)
a2sd cachepart (move dalvik to cache partition)
a2sd cachepartreset (move dalvik to cache partition and clears contents of dalvik-cache)
Make sure your SD card is at least a class 4 before doing this, otherwise you may run into performance issues, unless you move the dalvik to the cache partition.
You still have other caches (i.e. Browser caches) and other data being stored and updated in internal storage, so the number of free space will continue to drop, but at a slower rate (unless you are engage in heavy web surfing, tweeting or facebook socializing.)
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use a card reader
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my card reader cant read my sd card. sad
mathew3184 said:
try reflashing megatron ,might work.
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hmm do you think so? i will try this but i will do a nandroid backup first.
mathew3184 said:
Note: If you apply Darktremor Apps2SD and still notice internal storage is decreasing, this is due to the dalvik-cache not being moved. By default, Darktremor Apps2SD will not move the dalvik-cache on boot.
If you want to move the dalvik-cache to the sd card, type:
a2sd cachesd (move dalvik to sd card)
a2sd cachesdreset (move dalvik to sd card and clears contents of dalvik-cache)
a2sd cachepart (move dalvik to cache partition)
a2sd cachepartreset (move dalvik to cache partition and clears contents of dalvik-cache)
Make sure your SD card is at least a class 4 before doing this, otherwise you may run into performance issues, unless you move the dalvik to the cache partition.
You still have other caches (i.e. Browser caches) and other data being stored and updated in internal storage, so the number of free space will continue to drop, but at a slower rate (unless you are engage in heavy web surfing, tweeting or facebook socializing.)
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sadly, like i said, i cant install any more app. i havent install terminal emulator. ohh i wish i had terminal emulator installed before i encounter this problem
shotgun32 said:
my card reader cant read my sd card. sad
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try using a linux system.. its prob because ur system doesn't read the funky ext partitions
shotgun32 said:
sadly, like i said, i cant install any more app. i havent install terminal emulator. ohh i wish i had terminal emulator installed before i encounter this problem
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sorry for doubling, but use ADB - its like terminal emulator but it runs on pc and has nothing to do with the phone
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try using a linux system.. its prob because ur system doesn't read the funky ext partitions
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How to use the linux system?
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dongimin2 said:
sorry for doubling, but use ADB - its like terminal emulator but it runs on pc and has nothing to do with the phone
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And how to use the ADB?
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I created a partition of 512 MB on my 16GB card to install LINK2SD but eventually ended up formatting my whole data. I did install Link2sd and then moved up all the huge apps like Yahoo Messenger with the plugin and other games and stuff. I had free internal space of about 77MB, I switch off my phone and I turn it on and its 33MB. What to do?
have you do titanium backups or nandroids before using link2sd? it is possible to damage your system severely and you shall have done that.
second, for ur issue, try checking the memory displays in link2sd
are you sure the app "link2sd" is placed in the phone storage? it may have moved back the apps after a reboot
did you note down what was the internal memory space before performing link2sd? was it 33mb?
hope i helped and good luck
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have you do titanium backups or nandroids before using link2sd? it is possible to damage your system severely and you shall have done that.
second, for ur issue, try checking the memory displays in link2sd
are you sure the app "link2sd" is placed in the phone storage? it may have moved back the apps after a reboot
did you note down what was the internal memory space before performing link2sd? was it 33mb?
hope i helped and good luck
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Yeah I restored my titanium backup. Before installing link2sd it was around 28 MB. After moving the apps it was around 77MB and now after a restart its like 33MB. Yes I did check from the storage info option of link2sd.
I heard [Read rather] somewhere that Link2SD sometimes unlinks the libraries after a reboot, If you had cleared the dalvik cache, the dalvik cache of all the linked apps would have also been unlinked. So, if you link all the apps again, It will again free the space on your Phone memory. I have to do it everytime I clear the dalvik cache or I reboot my phone for some reason. It is irritating because I have 93 apps and It is time consuming to do all manually everytime.
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I heard [Read rather] somewhere that Link2SD sometimes unlinks the libraries after a reboot, If you had cleared the dalvik cache, the dalvik cache of all the linked apps would have also been unlinked. So, if you link all the apps again, It will again free the space on your Phone memory. I have to do it everytime I clear the dalvik cache or I reboot my phone for some reason. It is irritating because I have 93 apps and It is time consuming to do all manually everytime.
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ahaha, true true
so i recommend app2sd+ instead of link2sd or whatever2sd, of course only if your rom supports it
I've never had Link2SD unlink anything. If you have any apps on the sdcard prior to use, it screws up, and if you move widgets it will as well, but I've been using Link2SD with stock LGP509T rom for months now with 0 issues like what you're describing.
If you wiped dalvik cache, you need to relink it. For libraries, do not bother, they will just get extracted back no matter what, so...
I have an Optimus V running IHO with s2e installed.
I am trying to use s2e to copy my dalvik cache to my sd-ext partition, but it's not working. I check the box and it says "reboot required", so I reboot, re-open s2e, and it still says "reboot required". I don't think it actually copied it to sd-ext.
How can I get it to copy my dalvik cache (~107MB)?
I havent heard of iho. But s2e is only for cm7 based roms...
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Android is right, you can only use with cm7...try using ungaze or darktremor
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IHO is based of CM 7.1. s2e copied my apps and download cache to my sd-ext just fine, it's the dalvik cache it's having issues with.
I had the same problem yesterday, uninstall s2e than reinstall from market and all of those blocked selections will be available to check....giving your on a cm7 rom...if that doesn't work repartition the sdcard than reinstall the s2e.apk than select which options you want moved to sdext and it should work
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Try wiping dalvik-cache, maybe the new one will be created on the sd-ext.
Ianis G. Vasilev said:
Try wiping dalvik-cache, maybe the new one will be created on the sd-ext.
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I tried that, didn't work
I think the partition is corrupted, try formatting again
Garuxa said:
I think the partition is corrupted, try formatting again
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I currently have my apps and download cache on sd-ext. That worked (works) fine.
I just noticed that I have both /cache/dalvik-cache and /data/dalvik-cache. Could this be why I can't move it to sd-ext?
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I had the same problem yesterday, uninstall s2e than reinstall from market and all of those blocked selections will be available to check....giving your on a cm7 rom...if that doesn't work repartition the sdcard than reinstall the s2e.apk than select which options you want moved to sdext and it should work
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I tried uninstalling and re-installing s2e, didn't work. The weird thing is that my apps and my download cache moved to sd-ext just fine.
im having the same problem. just loaded bobzhome CM7.2.0 on my optimus v. it will move anything but the dalvik cache. whats the problem?
IMPORTANT NOTE!!!!!
i moved applications only to the SD ext partition. after this i wasnt able to load many of my apps, the most important of which was s2e. so i wasnt able to undo the move. fortunately this happened early on after i flashed the new rom. so i just called it a bad job and reflashed the rom.
im giving up on the idea of extending my ext partition. i just reformatted my SD card for basic SD storage. i will just have to live within my means. not being able to move the Dalvik cache should have been enough to ward me off, but after having it mess my apps up too im not going to try again until im really desperate.
Personally I tried ungaze a d s2e and darktremor was my favorite. You get the .zip for recovery and the UI in market, search for darktremor in it. You will have the option to move dalvik cache to sd ext. My ext is formated in ext4 by the way, might be your problem. I write here mainly to tell you that in my own experience moving dalvik to sd-ext on top of my apps to sd-ext made my rom laggy and slow. Apps only worked fine. Darktremor's the best. Try it.
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Mount as Ext4
how r u partitioning the sd card? I use mini tool and have partitioned it fine. make sure you make a fat32 1st, 2nd ext2 & 3rd Linux swap (see attached image - Disc 2 as example). Thats the only way it works. Best of luck Also, once s2e is installed, open s2e > menu > settings > select option 'Mount as Ext4'. I will not recommend moving applications and private apps, just move dalvik cache and download cache.
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I have been going round and round with this issue for a long time.... i used mini tool and other programs like darktremor and NONE worked,
I used mini tool like nth20 has stated only I created a fat32 partition,
I used the integrate SYS davik option in titanium backup!
I am useing a IHO rom that has link2sd and that worked for me...
good luck i have reflashed and tried so many roms and was finally able to get this to work.
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Mangala_Dharma said:
Personally I tried ungaze a d s2e and darktremor was my favorite. You get the .zip for recovery and the UI in market, search for darktremor in it. You will have the option to move dalvik cache to sd ext. My ext is formated in ext4 by the way, might be your problem. I write here mainly to tell you that in my own experience moving dalvik to sd-ext on top of my apps to sd-ext made my rom laggy and slow. Apps only worked fine. Darktremor's the best. Try it.
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I don't really want to move the dalvik-cache, to sd-ext, but when I try to install or update anything from the market, I get "package file invalid". I'm assuming that the error is that my cache is full.
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how r u partitioning the sd card? I use mini tool and have partitioned it fine. make sure you make a fat32 1st, 2nd ext2 & 3rd Linux swap (see attached image - Disc 2 as example). Thats the only way it works. Best of luck Also, once s2e is installed, open s2e > menu > settings > select option 'Mount as Ext4'. I will not recommend moving applications and private apps, just move dalvik cache and download cache.
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Do you need a swap partition for dalvik cache to move correctly? I didn't add one, so that may be the issue. Unfortunately, I have too many apps, and I need them moved to sd-ext, because they don't fit in the internal memory.
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I have been going round and round with this issue for a long time.... i used mini tool and other programs like darktremor and NONE worked,
I used mini tool like nth20 has stated only I created a fat32 partition,
I used the integrate SYS davik option in titanium backup!
I am useing a IHO rom that has link2sd and that worked for me...
good luck i have reflashed and tried so many roms and was finally able to get this to work.
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"integrate SYS davik option", eh? That looks interesting, let me try it. That seemed to help. s2e still didn't move the cache, but I can correctly install/update from the market now.
NTICompass said:
I don't really want to move the dalvik-cache, to sd-ext, but when I try to install or update anything from the market, I get "package file invalid". I'm assuming that the error is that my cache is full.
Yup. Either your dalvik cache or download cache or both cannot find enough space in internal memory.
Do you need a swap partition for dalvik cache to move correctly? I didn't add one, so that may be the issue. Unfortunately, I have too many apps, and I need them moved to sd-ext, because they don't fit in the internal memory.
You need the swap partition as apps use it the space while installations. Saves you from the 'package file invalid' error.
Hope this helps.
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I was able to use Titanium Backup's "Intergrate Sys Dalvik into ROM", and that fixed the problem (it moved ~20MB of stuff).
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You need the swap partition as apps use it the space while installations. Saves you from the 'package file invalid' error.
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I can try to add one, and see if that helps, but I think if I can install apps now, then I don't need to actually move the dalvik cache.
NTICompass said:
I was able to use Titanium Backup's "Intergrate Sys Dalvik into ROM", and that fixed the problem (it moved ~20MB of stuff).
I can try to add one, and see if that helps, but I think if I can install apps now, then I don't need to actually move the dalvik cache.
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Just 20MB. That's kinda low. Attached is a screenshot from my device. Check the size of the dalvik cache.
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