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So I am loving my photon. Have had it since launch day, and the one thing I am less than happy with is the camera performance indoors. Both my epic and evo shift 4g took good pictures indoors, but it seems pretty hit and miss with me and the photon. I cant decide if I should return it and wait for the Galaxy S2 or if maybe they will improve the camera software in an update.
Example as to what I mean with the pictures.
I took a picture, with flash on and settings in auto on my friends atrix, and side by side with my photon. The picture looked more natural on his screen, but on mine, the colors were weird and it wasn't focused very well.
Thoughts?
Only giving my opinion because no one has answered this yet.
I have noticed that the camera is not great indoors. However, one must remember that indoor shots are difficult even with good cameras because of the low light.
But since you are comparing your shots to another phone, all I can say is that hardware is different. Hard to say what is causing it and whether or not the camera on the Atrix is really better.
What I would do if it was me as a first step is to call Motorola and ask them why the camera sucks compared to the Atrix and see what they say. Maybe someone can shed some light on things.
If not, might just have to bite the bullet and buy an app such as Vignette from the Market if you can't get the satisfactory settings on the stock camera app. It might have some set profiles you can use that would make the pictures come out much better. I did see that someone posted taking pictures on the Photon with Vignette produced really good pics but don't know where the shots were taken.
Again, I'm not that knowledgeable on this so these are just suggestions.
I think it's because the flash is less than white. I think it actually gives a more natural picture and looks less like a flash was used. You can edit the photo after you have taken it on the phone. Moto built in some decent editing software in the gallery view.
randomrobbi said:
So I am loving my photon. Have had it since launch day, and the one thing I am less than happy with is the camera performance indoors. Both my epic and evo shift 4g took good pictures indoors, but it seems pretty hit and miss with me and the photon. I cant decide if I should return it and wait for the Galaxy S2 or if maybe they will improve the camera software in an update.
Example as to what I mean with the pictures.
I took a picture, with flash on and settings in auto on my friends atrix, and side by side with my photon. The picture looked more natural on his screen, but on mine, the colors were weird and it wasn't focused very well.
Thoughts?
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The Photon actually takes the photo before it finishes focusing causing pics to look really bad. Having played with several Photons, I decided to just use Vignette (from the market) instead. Pics now look outstanding.
My comparisons were done between EVO 4G & MoPho. Hope that helps.
I would say that my HTC Heroc's camera is better then the MoPho which is a big disappointment. It's also worse the the Evo 3D's which I played with for a month. The crappy pictures aren't just indoor, they also aren't very good on clouldy days. Is there a better camera app out there that can take nicer pictures or any roms that have camera tweaks?
MinceMan said:
I would say that my HTC Heroc's camera is better then the MoPho which is a big disappointment. It's also worse the the Evo 3D's which I played with for a month. The crappy pictures aren't just indoor, they also aren't very good on clouldy days. Is there a better camera app out there that can take nicer pictures or any roms that have camera tweaks?
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Try Vignette from the Market.
sorry bro.....photon....ergggg....all moto devices always have the wroste camera on phones soo :S....you have no lucky to that
I just downloaded the free version of vignette and the photos are much worse than the stock camera. I mean real bad. Is the free version not so good?
Photos colors are way off.
vignette free sucks because it only saves effects in .3mp, however the full version can take forever to process the effects. luckily you can just keep taking pictures and it processes in the background. btw vignette is better than stock.
jokersax11 said:
vignette free sucks because it only saves effects in .3mp, however the full version can take forever to process the effects. luckily you can just keep taking pictures and it processes in the background. btw vignette is better than stock.
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I downloaded the app after reading the numerous recommendations. Maybe I'm an idiot but I can't figure out how to zoom in and out...seems like every button takes a picture...help?
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Vignette only helps so far. What we need is an update from Motorola that addresses the camera issues. But Motorola is silent when it comes to the camera...
I have recently been looking at the photos out of the Nokia N8. If only my MoPho could take images like that!
romantivist said:
I downloaded the app after reading the numerous recommendations. Maybe I'm an idiot but I can't figure out how to zoom in and out...seems like every button takes a picture...help?
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Hold your finger on the screen and you'll see options
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Our photon comes with really great effects too just press menu then edit than advance
Its the screen resolution of the photon that makes it look different take download the pictures to a computer from both phones and sompare them side by side and you will see that the photon takes a way better pictures, the difference is in the screen,
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The problem I have with the default camera app is that on anything but the brightest of sunny days everything looks blurry. Vignette seems to be much better in that regard. At least inside pictures are fairly sharp.
I'm really feeling Camera ZOOM FX right now, pictures are really nice and sharp indoors. The steady shot give you a readout of the accelerometer and wont take the picture unless you've been stead for 0.5 , 1 or 2 seconds. It's $0.10 on the market today and I would strongly recommend it. The only problem is you don't seem to be able to change picture quality settings.
Camera ZOOM FX
+1 just got camera zoom..lovin it.
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I use camera zoom since i got my photon the default camera app is really ****ty i guess that the difference should be the way the picture is procesed
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I find the Photon camera pretty decent, actually is the best camera I ever had on a phone. For the low light issue thing I would just like to say that it does not take the greatest pic on low light conditions but what actually makes it worse is the Pentile display (and I'm not saying is not a good display like most people), because if you transfer your pictures to your computer you can actually see that the pictures aren't as bad as they seems when you view them in your Photon.
As for camera apps I use Camera360 Ultimate and HDR Camera+
I really don't like camera zoom because you can't save pictures in actual resolutions. (at least when I used I couldn't get them) Maybe they fixed that now.?
I have seen a few threads on this, but it seems like no one has any answers, or i guess it doesn't bother them... Anyway the camera app is horrible at taking shots of anything that can move. I have tried camera fx as well and it's no better.
My captivate camera app was better, and my wifes old iphone will smoke this camera in regards of shutter speed.
It seems impossible to get any non blurry pics of my kids even just sitting there (as we all know kids don't sit perfectly still)
Long story short, is there anyway to get a quicker shutter speed? I have tried all the different ISO settings, and my anti shake is off and a bunch of other things and i still can't get this thing to take decent pictures. If you are using it on things that don't move its great! other than that, it's pretty frustrating. :/
ANY help would be greatly appreciated!!
drizzle67 said:
I have seen a few threads on this, but it seems like no one has any answers, or i guess it doesn't bother them... Anyway the camera app is horrible at taking shots of anything that can move. I have tried camera fx as well and it's no better.
My captivate camera app was better, and my wifes old iphone will smoke this camera in regards of shutter speed.
It seems impossible to get any non blurry pics of my kids even just sitting there (as we all know kids don't sit perfectly still)
Long story short, is there anyway to get a quicker shutter speed? I have tried all the different ISO settings, and my anti shake is off and a bunch of other things and i still can't get this thing to take decent pictures. If you are using it on things that don't move its great! other than that, it's pretty frustrating. :/
ANY help would be greatly appreciated!!
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Taking pics with lots of light helps tremendously. If you're going to take low light pics it certainly will induce a lot of shutter lag. Its a good camera for sure but its not a professional slr.
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For sure, I understand it is still a cell phone, but compared to my captivate and my wife's iPhone, this camera is disappointing.
Thanks for the reply! I suppose ill have to live with it for now. Maybe when the ics source comes out it will be better.
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The iPhone 4S camera still the best and fastest camera on the market (phone wise). SGS2 is a solid # 2
eortizr said:
The iPhone 4S camera still the best and fastest camera on the market (phone wise). SGS2 is a solid # 2
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It's been a while since I had a Nokia phone (N95), but those cameras were the best by far.
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The iPhone 4S camera still the best and fastest camera on the market (phone wise). SGS2 is a solid # 2
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Not according to reviews and tests.
4s can't change any settings - everything is auto. Sgs2 has nearly full control or auto. This device was also released 8mo ago... so if you give it that, its understandable why the 4s might have a slight edge.
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Well I'm not going by reviews, just personal experience. my wife has the 4S and that camera is freaking fast when compared to the SGS2 and the picture quality is better. I hate Apple and their products.. but the true is the true
drizzle67 said:
I have seen a few threads on this, but it seems like no one has any answers, or i guess it doesn't bother them... Anyway the camera app is horrible at taking shots of anything that can move. I have tried camera fx as well and it's no better.
My captivate camera app was better, and my wifes old iphone will smoke this camera in regards of shutter speed.
It seems impossible to get any non blurry pics of my kids even just sitting there (as we all know kids don't sit perfectly still)
Long story short, is there anyway to get a quicker shutter speed? I have tried all the different ISO settings, and my anti shake is off and a bunch of other things and i still can't get this thing to take decent pictures. If you are using it on things that don't move its great! other than that, it's pretty frustrating. :/
ANY help would be greatly appreciated!!
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I would also agree that the Captivate's camera was better, but more for white balance in warmer light.
As for your issue, i'm a bit confused. Is your problem shutter lag (the time between when you press the shutter and when the exposure starts) or that the shutter speed seems really slow?
If it's the later, could you post a sample photo along with the EXIF info? Also try at different amounts of light.
I'm not new to Android or the Galaxy family - this is my fourth Android phone, and I'm most recently coming from the Epic 4G Touch (Galaxy SII) which has the same camera [hardware-wise] as this phone... and software wise I'd expect similar if not some improvements, given this is the next version of that phone line.
I've only had this phone a few weeks, so I'm hoping there's a setting that I'm not aware of to relieve this: the autofocus is painfully slow. Much slower than the E4GT (GSII) Why?
I was at a wedding yesterday, and missed about HALF my shots, because after pressing the shutter button, it took I'd say between 2 and 3 seconds for the camera to autofocus and finally take the picture. And - half of the time, they didn't even autofocus right, the pictures ended up blurry.
I've also observed this in the past just taking random snapshots on this phone - it didn't become such a concern until I found myself at an important event like this wedding. I can't have a camera that's completely unreliable and impossibly slow.
I didn't have this problem with the E4GT, that camera performance was absolutely beautiful. I showed off the detail of the pictures I took to my family who was taking pictures with "real" cameras. This doesn't even compare - my old HTC G1 had a faster autofocus and shutter.
What's the deal here?
Faulty camera?
I'd say you have a faulty camera? I've taken hundreds of pictures with mine, with absolutely no auto-focusing issues. It's blazing fast. If you know someone else with a GS3, try a comparison, if yours is struggling while the other one takes pictures with ease, then you have your answer. On the other hand, a software update might fix the issues. Jelly Bean should be out soon for the S3, see if that does the trick.
Which ROM/Kernel/app were u using when u took the photos?
If u used the stock ROM, it should be super fast...
That's really strange...
they are instant on mine.
which i dont like cuz i am not sure if they are well focused <.<
Stock. All stock. Even still running Touchwiz.
It's only occasional. Sometimes I snap a pic and it's fast. But I never had such delays on my E4GT...
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geolemon said:
Stock. All stock. Even still running Touchwiz.
It's only occasional. Sometimes I snap a pic and it's fast. But I never had such delays on my E4GT...
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Don't waste your time and take it to the Service Center if you re clueless.
Mine snaps instantly, and i mean it.. always.
Sounds like you are clueless. I don't appreciate that comment. And honestly, what kind of fool snap-reacts and exchanges his fully-configured phone on instinct? That's the definition of clueless. Wow.
If you tap the shutter button, yes - instant - because it skips focusing entirely.
But if you hold the shutter button down and release to take the picture, it's not instant. It's not instant when you release - it finishes focusing, THEN captures the picture. And if there's any motion of the camera (like trying to capture the bride/from walking into the reception), if anything else comes into the focus box momentarily, it seems to restart focusing again.
Even if you don't do that - if you try to whip your phone out, unlock it, open the camera, and point it at something - it initially auto-focuses on its own. It's a nice feature, but that box doesn't go green instantly - far from it.
This is a software difference, not a defect, compared to the GSII.
Yes, focus is important.
There's clue #1 for you do you don't ruin important photos.
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Sounds faulty. Tested one in the shop the other day and it worked superb.
You could try changing the focus mode to macro maybe or by a sony xperia s I hear the phone has a dedicated camera button and is 12 mp. If you want the phone to be a camera sony maybe better.
On my s2 the focus is slow like you said but I use fixed focus mode in a custom rom and just touch the screen then snap away.
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Yeah sounds like you are in macro mode, usually takes a long time and at the end it doesn't focus the object but does take the picture regardless of focus, It has happened to me too many times now... if you are on auto then there might be a problem, and HARDWARE wise this camera module is not the same as any other android in the market.. you can say it's the same as the iphone 4s but not GS2 or whatever other phone out there with 8mpix camera.
So for me, don't get me wrong, during daylight this camera is awesome, but at night time or during some lower light items, this camera doesn't look too hot. For example I went to a theater performance and took some pictures with my Note 3, my date took pictures with her iPhone 5 and her pictures of the stage and actors turned out real well whereas mine with the stock camera app and Camera Zoom FX just looked washed out and not that good. I can't say I had this issue with my S3 either because i was able to take pretty good pictures with that camera. Any ideas on how I can optimize my camera taking skills here? I'm not a noob with the cameras either, it's just frustrating being hit or miss on pictures you know? Help would be greatly appreciated!
I find that the stock camera app leaves a bit to be desired. Especially for low light , action, or macro shots. There are some very nice paid cameras like camera fv-5. I actually also like ucam for a free camera.
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Low light situations and no OIS requires a very steady hand..Not much else you can do man it kinda is what it is.
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Im asking for myself, as well as for others in the future.
the first photo I took after unboxing the phone was missed. horribly. the camera seems so slow. If compared to a note 5, iphone etc.
Using auto for settings. i figured itd be at least almost as fast as comparable flagship devices.
Can anyone provide a decent list of settings for those "gotta take it fast" settings?
I have no problem at all. Just open and the camera app and shoot.
Haven't had any problems here. I used it all weekend to take picture of fall leaves.
Only thing that was "slow" was opening it by way of the double press of the down volume button. Not as fast as I'd like between the press and the actual picture.
But just opening the camera from the icon (i have it on my second screen) was very fast! The actual picture taking is blazing fast too. It was especially appreciated when taking panoramic pictures. My note 2 is pretty slow for those.
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Any way to make the camera app on the second screen when main screen is off? That would be awesome. Btw I didn't even think out putting camera on second screen. Thanks!
I have the camera on the second screen when the screen is off.
Screen off defaults to the date/time/battery display but swipe to the left and it's (sound) (wifi) (flashlight) (camera)
I don't remember setting it that way. I thought I was just by default...
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I have problems with the camera on the LG V10 too. For stationary stuff it's fine, but my Note 4 was much faster to take a camera shot on auto, and the picture always looked much better, with much less noise and blur... I have a 3 year old. So he moves fast, and I don't want to carry my expensive camera with me everywhere. I really thought this would be at least as good as the Note 4 on auto but it isn't. I really love the LG v10 overall, and don't like the thought of losing the removable battery, SD memory expansion, the DAC, and other great stuff, by moving to a Note 5. But I'm just that disappointed in the camera. Anyone think I might have a defective phone? I mean I hit the camera button to take a picture, and it just lags. And the result is blurry more often than not.
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I have problems with the camera on the LG V10 too. For stationary stuff it's fine, but my Note 4 was much faster to take a camera shot on auto, and the picture always looked much better, with much less noise and blur... I have a 3 year old. So he moves fast, and I don't want to carry my expensive camera with me everywhere. I really thought this would be at least as good as the Note 4 on auto but it isn't. I really love the LG v10 overall, and don't like the thought of losing the removable battery, SD memory expansion, the DAC, and other great stuff, by moving to a Note 5. But I'm just that disappointed in the camera. Anyone think I might have a defective phone? I mean I hit the camera button to take a picture, and it just lags. And the result is blurry more often than not.
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I've had none of these problems that you speak of...You might try to exchange your device....sucks bro.
Make sure OIS is on.
Make sure it's saving picture to phone
This camera is not as fast as note 5 when it comes to shooting quickly. Auto focus is nice but remember note 5 had camera api running in the background constantly so it's easy to open camera and snap.
It seems to have a slight lag with focusing in auto mode, especially compared to note 5.
I use it mainly for manual shots, but I also have note 5 too.
V10 has many more camera and video options than note 5, but is slightly slower
I have no problems with the camera at all.. Its fast and amazing. I came from a note 4 that became very slow after a half a year. N4 took 20 sec just for the camera to get in focus after opening the app. V10 Manual mode is the shiiz
Totally agree
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I have problems with the camera on the LG V10 too. For stationary stuff it's fine, but my Note 4 was much faster to take a camera shot on auto, and the picture always looked much better, with much less noise and blur... I have a 3 year old. So he moves fast, and I don't want to carry my expensive camera with me everywhere. I really thought this would be at least as good as the Note 4 on auto but it isn't. I really love the LG v10 overall, and don't like the thought of losing the removable battery, SD memory expansion, the DAC, and other great stuff, by moving to a Note 5. But I'm just that disappointed in the camera. Anyone think I might have a defective phone? I mean I hit the camera button to take a picture, and it just lags. And the result is blurry more often than not.
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I agree with you on this. I was debating on the note 5 and this. i love the big screen and removable battery and sd card and the storage is awesome but the camera pictures really disappointment. very much noise and blurry on the ends. like it just focus on the middle. Im thinking of returning it but i don't want to loose the whole other features..
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headcreepz said:
I've had none of these problems that you speak of...You might try to exchange your device....sucks bro.
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I agree have the same problem. I wa sdebating on the note 5 and this but I love the whole big phone, storage and memory so I went with this. but since I am in the 14 day trial period I want to return it and get the note 5. just yesterday i took pictures and it took for over to take so when people saw the first flash they assumed it took and moved and yeah not good. IS there a setting or something?