There were quite a few builds around I have noticed, however with Tiad gone, there only seems to be the basic FRX* and GBX0A.
Even though I never liked "Tiad's" builds, I noticed quite a few things. With little/no coding experience (as far as I can tell) he was just modifying parts of code, causing problems, etc. But still making some huge UI changes that never seemed to have issues.
I have quite a bit of coding experience but never anything for mobile devices I would like to have a look and compile some builds, teaching myself basically.
So I have two questions regarding this:
1: Do the devs use an IRC or something? I would love to sit in on development and see how they work (without interrupting them of course ).
2: Is there some kind of 'cooking' software or a suite that has been put together, like some of the stuff I have seen in the Windows section for this device? Where do I start? I have seen the Chef Central but it is a bit 'full on' and seems to be a mess. I want to be device specific, if possible. Do I use THIS?
Oh and considering I own a RHOD110 (GSM) I am up for testing pretty much anything you guys want me to.
Who knows, by the time android is working I might be up for releasing public builds, and of course NO INCLUDED PAID APPS
ryannathans said:
There were quite a few builds around I have noticed, however with Tiad gone, there only seems to be the basic FRX* and GBX0A.
Even though I never liked "Tiad's" builds, I noticed quite a few things. With little/no coding experience (as far as I can tell) he was just modifying parts of code, causing problems, etc.
I have quite a bit of coding experience but never anything for mobile devices I would like to have a look and compile some builds, teaching myself basically.
So I have two questions regarding this:
1: Do the devs use an IRC or something? I would love to sit in on development and see how they work (without interrupting them of course ).
2: Is there some kind of 'cooking' software or a suite that has been put together, like some of the stuff I have seen in the Windows section for this device? Where do I start? I have seen the Chef Central but it is a bit 'full on' and seems to be a mess. I want to be device specific, if possible. Do I use THIS?
Oh and considering I own a RHOD110 (GSM) I am up for testing pretty much anything you guys want me to.
Who knows, by the time android is working I might be up for releasing public builds, and of course NO INCLUDED PAID APPS
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Kernel Dev: http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=IRC
Userland Dev: http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Chat
Steps for building stuff: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/android-t...modules-tinboot-nand-boot-more-beginners.html
You can also find steps for building userland at xdandroid.com
Specifically, for building xdandroid - http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Getting_the_Source
If you follow those instructions, you will basically be able to build your own FRX05/GBX0A equivalents.
That's how I got started on my GPS quest.
Note that in terms of IRC channels, the two links above will eventually just take you to Freenode, so you can just go over to #htc-linux and #xdandroid on freenode. Activity seems to be highest in United States evening times. It can be quite dead at other times, as occasional people who have popped in to ask questions have discovered.
In terms of what goes into the mainline xdandroid codebase - ideally I would assume the devs wish to integrate whatever they can, however, I can see the following valid reasons to diverge:
1) Replacing large parts of the user interface (Sense, heavily themed builds) - This was one of the things tiad8 did and honestly not a part of his work that I had any problems with.
2) Situations where there is a free but binary-only component that replaces one of our open source components - Not ideal but sometimes a necessary evil for the end user. However, I think the mainline devs would appreciate knowing the situations in which this is done, either for the purposes of reverse engineering the component in question, finding a source tree for the component in question (sometimes possible), or just knowing whether or not a fix can be integrated upstream. - tiad8 would often grab stuff from random places without documenting it which annoyed a lot of people
Trying to minimize the deltas between "cooked" builds and what one might call the "baseline" build is probably what is best for all of us - only diverge when there is a clear rationale for it, and when there isn't a good reason for divergence, try to get stuff mainlined.
Also to note - when running from SD it isn't exactly "ROM" development, and the nice thing about running from SD is that it's a lot easier to make tweaks to userland since the key userland files are all in a normal ext2 filesystem.
Oh yeah - HIGHLY beneficial if you've got a 64-bit Linux box like I do!
Edit: If you read my GPS testing thread, you'll see some of the lessons learned on my journey, including a few useful tips like bind-mounting specific libs that you're working on.
Entropy512 said:
Specifically, for building xdandroid - http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Getting_the_Source
If you follow those instructions, you will basically be able to build your own FRX05/GBX0A equivalents.
That's how I got started on my GPS quest.
Note that in terms of IRC channels, the two links above will eventually just take you to Freenode, so you can just go over to #htc-linux and #xdandroid on freenode. Activity seems to be highest in United States evening times. It can be quite dead at other times, as occasional people who have popped in to ask questions have discovered.
In terms of what goes into the mainline xdandroid codebase - ideally I would assume the devs wish to integrate whatever they can, however, I can see the following valid reasons to diverge:
1) Replacing large parts of the user interface (Sense, heavily themed builds) - This was one of the things tiad8 did and honestly not a part of his work that I had any problems with.
2) Situations where there is a free but binary-only component that replaces one of our open source components - Not ideal but sometimes a necessary evil for the end user. However, I think the mainline devs would appreciate knowing the situations in which this is done, either for the purposes of reverse engineering the component in question, finding a source tree for the component in question (sometimes possible), or just knowing whether or not a fix can be integrated upstream. - tiad8 would often grab stuff from random places without documenting it which annoyed a lot of people
Trying to minimize the deltas between "cooked" builds and what one might call the "baseline" build is probably what is best for all of us - only diverge when there is a clear rationale for it, and when there isn't a good reason for divergence, try to get stuff mainlined.
Also to note - when running from SD it isn't exactly "ROM" development, and the nice thing about running from SD is that it's a lot easier to make tweaks to userland since the key userland files are all in a normal ext2 filesystem.
Oh yeah - HIGHLY beneficial if you've got a 64-bit Linux box like I do!
Edit: If you read my GPS testing thread, you'll see some of the lessons learned on my journey, including a few useful tips like bind-mounting specific libs that you're working on.
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Sweet, yeah I will definitely be having a look at all resources. I DO have a 64bit Linux box, what is so beneficial? Can I achieve the same with a 64bit Virtual PC (providing I can allocate 4gb+ RAM which shouldn't be a problem on my beast )?
When I change or include anything I definitely want to include a list of all sources and information available to make sure the use is aware of what is going on. I never really like 'closed-source' development, as some of you may have seen with the Gaming Association I founded (all our mods are open source ).
Thanks, I will post again here if I need anything.
I think some of the prebuilt tools are 64-bit binaries. It's likely possible to get it working on a 32-bit box, but all of the documentation I've seen either strongly recommends/requires 64.
A VM should work fine - I think a few people are using that approach. Memory requirements aren't too bad unless you're doing a make -j4 on a quadcore - then you might drive into swap with a 4GB machine (I have...)
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I think some of the prebuilt tools are 64-bit binaries. It's likely possible to get it working on a 32-bit box, but all of the documentation I've seen either strongly recommends/requires 64.
A VM should work fine - I think a few people are using that approach. Memory requirements aren't too bad unless you're doing a make -j4 on a quadcore - then you might drive into swap with a 4GB machine (I have...)
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I have an i5 750 OCed to 4Ghz, it is in fact a quad. Only 4GB RAM atm but very soon i will have 8
It is running a git clone command, downloaded 40 mb already and it is only 5%, oh great... xD haha
Trying to download and getting this error.
Code:
[email protected] ~ $ sudo apt-get install git build-essential gnupg flex bison gperf libsdl-dev esound zip curl libwxgtk2.6 libc6-dev-i386 g++-multilib lib32z1-dev lib32ncurses5-dev java-common openjdk-6-jdk sun-java5-jdk
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Note, selecting 'libsdl1.2-dev' instead of 'libsdl-dev'
Note, selecting 'libwxgtk2.6-0' for regex 'libwxgtk2.6'
Note, selecting 'libwxgtk2.6-dbg' for regex 'libwxgtk2.6'
Note, selecting 'libwxgtk2.6-dev' for regex 'libwxgtk2.6'
Note, selecting 'libwxgtk2.6-0-python' for regex 'libwxgtk2.6'
E: Unable to locate package libc6-dev-i386
E: Unable to locate package lib32z1-dev
E: Unable to locate package lib32ncurses5-dev
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Trying to download perquisites and getting this error.
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Have you tried to add a repository
Code:
add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ maverick partner"
?
still getting the same error, however, when updating the list of updates, quite a few 'ign' or 'fail' but still most 'hit'.
Is everyone getting this error? It is happening on all my machines..
Don't remember encountering that error when I was getting set up...
I'm on Ubuntu 10.10 - you?
Entropy512 said:
Don't remember encountering that error when I was getting set up...
I'm on Ubuntu 10.10 - you?
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Linux Mint 10 Gnome
Derived from Ubuntu 10.10, therefore both depositories should work.
Do you know what depository it is from?
From what I remember, I only had to add special repos for Java 5.
I do remember that back when I did it, there were some libs missing from the install directions in the wiki, that caused my build to bomb. I had to do some googling to find out what they were, and I THINK they were the ones you are having a problem with... hmm. Lemme do some more poking.
Edit: Try the prerequisites setup hints at http://source.android.com/source/download.html
Entropy512 said:
From what I remember, I only had to add special repos for Java 5.
I do remember that back when I did it, there were some libs missing from the install directions in the wiki, that caused my build to bomb. I had to do some googling to find out what they were, and I THINK they were the ones you are having a problem with... hmm. Lemme do some more poking.
Edit: Try the prerequisites setup hints at http://source.android.com/source/download.html
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First repository worked but the other failed.
Code:
[email protected] ~ $ sudo add-apt-repository "deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu lucid partner"
Error: 'deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu lucid partner' invalid
I just removed -src and it accepted it, however I still get the same error with apt-get install as i did before
ill just install ubuntu instead...
and SAME error D:
Weird... I need to run out the door soon, but when I get home (going to be fairly late tonight) I'll try to look at my current repo setup.
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Weird... I need to run out the door soon, but when I get home (going to be fairly late tonight) I'll try to look at my current repo setup.
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thanks Entropy
Uh yeah... anyway so what happened with that?
Entropy512 said:
Try the prerequisites setup hints at http://source.android.com/source/download.html
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That's how I got the error.
I went on to...
Code:
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
Things seem to be working fine for me.
Will post if anything changes... Ubuntu 10.10 x64
Getting errors about the update commands but repo is running fine. and javac points to where I tell it to via:
Code:
sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-1.5.0-sun
I suggest you continue to advance the installation until you run into a build problem, That will make an issue easier to resolve. Also... These issues should be posted/googled in a linux forum relevant to your distro.
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Uh yeah... anyway so what happened with that?
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Entropy helped me over IRC
libwxgtk2.6 could not be found via apt-get but libwxgtk2.6-0 was found and installed/works perfectly
should this be updated on the wiki?
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should this be updated on the wiki?
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I give you and Entropy my thanks and the thumbs up! As for your question, I am sure this is an installation issue specific to a certain platform. This would be relevant knowledge to any Wiki engaged in the topic.
- Keep up the great work!
Hi everyone, I was searching for a good linux distribution for my A101IT and found the instructions here: http://dev.openaos.org/wiki/LubuntuGen8 but I have a problem, I can't build it because my PC got broken 1 month ago and still can't find the parts I need to repair it (motherboard, cpu, gpu, ram, all of them got fried at once in a chain reaction caused most probably by the motherboard) so my question is. Did anyone build it and is willing to upload the files needed and post a link for me and anyone else that needs it, please?
Also I have a second question: Could I somehow adapt one of the guides for building linux to build ChromiumOS, and what would be the differances, this ofc for when I finally fix my PC or can anyone give me a guide for chrooting into it (I personally have no experience on using chroot but talked with some frinds that have been using linux for as long as linux existed and one of them sayd I should be able to chroot into chromium from an other kind of linux and then mod that system to auto-chroot on startup and somehow kick most of the host linux away keeping only chromium working, again I have no ideea if it is true or even if that's what he was telling me, but I accept and will try any ideea?
Thank you in advance.
Wow, after so many hours and 70 views not even a "Why do you need ChromiumOS?" or "You have the guide, stop asking for readymade things amd repair your pc and build it yourself" :crying:
No idea, mate. Sorry.
Mavasilisk said:
No idea, mate. Sorry.
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Well at least thank you for the reply, if no one will post the lubuntu files I will as soon as I manage to get my PC working again.....and perhaps will try to adapt a guide to building an other linux to building ChromiumOS, but I expect that to be a total failure.....
Let me tell u something. I tried some kind of linux but dont remember if it was kubuntu or not on my A70S before. It was bad. It cant replace ur PC.
Mavasilisk said:
Let me tell u something. I tried some kind of linux but dont remember if it was kubuntu or not on my A70S before. It was bad. It cant replace ur PC.
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Yah, I know it wont be great, I tried all the linux builds, and some were greater than others, and I know it won't be able to replace your pc, but it is still great for what I use my tab for, well the parts unrelated to gaming, cause I didn't try that, but anyway I play games on android and never found any interesting (or touchscreen optimised for that matter) game for linux when I used it on my pc, but anyway I still need a better linux build, the debian one at openaos is good, but the screen doesen't turn off and bodhi has problems with the sound, and overall instability and many apps I use didn't want to install (chromium, pidgin, etc) and ubuntu was kinda good, bit unstable if I remember right, and bad on the battery, but allready lost the files for that, and kubuntu was kinda the worst of them as far as I remember, but the lubuntu build tut at openaos seems to me that it could give me the best linux build for this tab......
Pc working finally but no linux yet, can't use my old pata hdd where I had linuxand also old x86 linux not working cause I didn't do sysprep, so installed new x64 windows and no space left for linux, will probbly buy a new hdd to install linux and then I'l build linux for the tab....
As the Title says, all the guides and posts here are about debian distros, mainly ubuntu, Being a fan of Fedora, I'd like to start building on What i have. If someone can point me to a guide or give me a headstart I'll be most grateful. Just help me get started , I'll google my way!
Thanks In Advance!
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/HOWTO_Setup_Android_Development#Compiling_Android_from_Source it's all described in fedora wiki, adjust for own build choice, at all its not complicated when you only know which dependencies to install, I've set it correctly on gentoo for once, fedora, arch and debian and ubuntu, was long time ago when froyo and gingerbread were current android versions, I believe not much changed since then
hard way to do it you can use yum provides or rpmfind such things to locate what you need compared to ubuntu listed packages
The installation instructions for the Linux-based are minimal, and give very little guidance on precisely what is required. There is no specification of which distros or versions it is supposed to be compatible with, but it definitely does not run on Ubuntu 14.04 (which is still current and supported until this time next year).
The application is clearly not statically linked, and running it on Ubuntu 14.04 fails to execute after failing to load libpng16.so.16, which was not introduced until much later in the Ubuntu release cycle.
Q1: Is the flash tool known to run on any particular release of Ubuntu?
Q2: Which distro and release was it developed on/released for originally?
Q3: Would it not make more sense for it to be statically linked (as Nokia did for the maemo-flasher which still works with the N900 'phone to this day, despite the end of official support about 7 years ago)?
Q4: Who do I need to take these other queries up with at Planet? There seems woefully little proper contact information.
cain.mosni said:
The installation instructions for the Linux-based are minimal, and give very little guidance on precisely what is required. There is no specification of which distros or versions it is supposed to be compatible with, but it definitely does not run on Ubuntu 14.04 (which is still current and supported until this time next year).
The application is clearly not statically linked, and running it on Ubuntu 14.04 fails to execute after failing to load libpng16.so.16, which was not introduced until much later in the Ubuntu release cycle.
Q1: Is the flash tool known to run on any particular release of Ubuntu?
Q2: Which distro and release was it developed on/released for originally?
Q3: Would it not make more sense for it to be statically linked (as Nokia did for the maemo-flasher which still works with the N900 'phone to this day, despite the end of official support about 7 years ago)?
Q4: Who do I need to take these other queries up with at Planet? There seems woefully little proper contact information.
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Ubuntu 14.04 sounds unreasonably old to me to be complaining about this, but you make a fair point that the issue could be avoided altogether. I'm also used to rolling release and having the latest kernel on most devices, though. I still just have Android on my Gemini due to difficulties finding info and files on this whole process. I run GNU/Linux myself, so hopefully I'll manage to figure out the flasher without needing to borrow a Windows machine.
From what I've gathered, there's a public file for setting up Android/Debian dual-boot, but I don't see anything about having Debian as the only OS, and it seems files for builds of the other distros with support (Sailfish, Ubuntu, postmarketOS) are private. Support for them is lacking right now, but I still found it frustrating to think I had a lot of choices and then see that I was a bit misled. It'd be nice if I could find an IRC channel dedicated to the Gemini so I could discuss this with knowledgeable people in a more fast-paced manner.
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Ubuntu 14.04 sounds unreasonably old to me to be complaining about this, but you make a fair point that the issue could be avoided altogether.
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The whole point about the Ubuntu LTS releases is that they ARE LTS (long-term support - stable but supported for up to 5 years), so it's perfectly reasonable to still be running it.
I've since tried on Ubuntu 16.04, and same problem.
I'm also used to rolling release and having the latest kernel on most devices, though. I still just have Android on my Gemini due to difficulties finding info and files on this whole process. I run GNU/Linux myself, so hopefully I'll manage to figure out the flasher without needing to borrow a Windows machine.
From what I've gathered, there's a public file for setting up Android/Debian dual-boot, but I don't see anything about having Debian as the only OS, and it seems files for builds of the other distros with support (Sailfish, Ubuntu, postmarketOS) are private. Support for them is lacking right now, but I still found it frustrating to think I had a lot of choices and then see that I was a bit misled.
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That is irritating. As is the woeful lack of meaningful support.
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Having cloned the Github source, it is now compiled and fully operational on both 16.04 LTS (xenial) and 14.04 LTS (trusty) .
git clone the source from Github - dguidipc/SP-Flash-Tool-src (board will not allow me, as a new user, to post the full link)
Install dependencies
qt4-dev-tools
libqtwebkit4
libqtwebkit-dev
alter the make configuration for the location of qmake
Code:
cd ${gitrepo}/SP-Flash-Tool-src/Build/
#backup the original build config just in case
f=build-linux.mk; cp -vp ${f} `date --reference=${f} "+${f}-%Y%m%d%H%M%S"`
In
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build-linux.mk
change the path config for
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qmake
to read:
Code:
QMAKE := /usr/bin/qmake
compile
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cd ${gitrepo}/SP-Flash-Tool-src/
make
Binary will be in
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../_Output
along with the object modules and a supporting shell script.
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[*]alter the make configuration for the location of qmake
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No longer required. The linux I tweaked the linux build file to detect when it's on Ubuntu, and that tweak is now incorporated in the official source.