Hey yall,
I am looking to make the switch to Verizon and android from the Evil Empire of Apple. My big decision is the Bionic or the upcoming Galaxy Nexus. The extra features of the Galaxy are cool, but they are just little extras in my book. My big concern is ICS vs Gingerbread. I know that there is no anounced upgrade date, but based on previous experience how does the Android OS upgrade timeframes work? The price difference 150 for Bionic from Amazon Wireless vs 300 expected for the Galaxy is also a factor. Thanks guys and gals.
Scott
There is no eta (of such really). If a device gets updated, then so be it. If the company finds the device's hardware good enough, then its quite likely to be updated but there is no guarantee. Remember, even if your device doesn't get updated officially, there will be ports/roms developed for it unofficially (especially if its a popular device).
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I couldn't find the answer anywhere online or here with a quick search. Is the upcoming touchwiz update from Samsung based on Android 3.1 or will it be 3.2?
If it is 3.1, it's less than ideal considering competition such as Asus Transformer is already getting the 3.2 update.
Thanks,
Osho
It is going to be 3.1 I think, just like the EUR release. Samsung has been slow in terms of getting up to speed with Android releases.
Google is also not helping in this case as they will probably not release anything for AOSP development.
For the Galaxy S lines, we just starting to receive 2.3.3 on certain areas....
Yes, I was tempted to return the Tab 10.1 for the Transformer. I just like the Tab because of the size and screen.
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It is going to be 3.1 I think, just like the EUR release. Samsung has been slow in terms of getting up to speed with Android releases.
Google is also not helping in this case as they will probably not release anything for AOSP development.
For the Galaxy S lines, we just starting to receive 2.3.3 on certain areas....
Yes, I was tempted to return the Tab 10.1 for the Transformer. I just like the Tab because of the size and screen.
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I am also having misgivings about the GTab(whether or not it will get updates) I have tried the TF and really liked it and I had both side by side and the TF seemed smoother and faster. I was drawn in by the screen and thinness of the Gtab. I have a Vibrant cell phone that was just completely neglected by Samsung. I flashed the new TWupdate rom on the Gtab and now the home screens have lags etc. I still have 9 days left in buyers remorse and I am leaning in the direction of taking it back to BB and exchanging for TF. Asus seems to be dedicated to getting out updates to the Transformer and the overall rating on it is very very good. The only thing holding me back is that I got a Gtab that is unlocked and also a white one which I preferred. Not trying to knock the Gtab as it is a wonderful device just do not want to sit around for months and months waiting for updates that either never come or are after the fact. Will probably make the decision today.
I think that due to wanting to integrate TW and due to their hardware getting released later, Samsung is a bit behind.
However Google seems to be pressuring manufacturers to be reasonably timely about updates with Honeycomb, after all much of their Honeycomb strategies have been stated as an effort to battle fragmentation.
It will still be android 3.1. Personally I think the TW update will much more beneficial to us then a 3.2 update. Android 3.2 just adds support for 7" screens and qualcomm processors and maybe some minor bug fixes but I'm sure TW will make our tabs much more stable and smoother anyways.
tenbeau said:
I am also having misgivings about the GTab(whether or not it will get updates) I have tried the TF and really liked it and I had both side by side and the TF seemed smoother and faster. I was drawn in by the screen and thinness of the Gtab. I have a Vibrant cell phone that was just completely neglected by Samsung. I flashed the new TWupdate rom on the Gtab and now the home screens have lags etc. I still have 9 days left in buyers remorse and I am leaning in the direction of taking it back to BB and exchanging for TF. Asus seems to be dedicated to getting out updates to the Transformer and the overall rating on it is very very good. The only thing holding me back is that I got a Gtab that is unlocked and also a white one which I preferred. Not trying to knock the Gtab as it is a wonderful device just do not want to sit around for months and months waiting for updates that either never come or are after the fact. Will probably make the decision today.
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I've heard some say that it's possibly a beta build of TW. That may explain why motion controls don't work. To be fair, you should probably wait for the official US release of the software before making judgements.
This version of TW is very likely to be the Aug 3rd release TW. It was briefly available a few days ago in USA while someone here updated. Motion control works in that version. And it's based on Honeycomb 3.1.
op whats new in 3.2?
killer23d said:
It is going to be 3.1 I think, just like the EUR release. Samsung has been slow in terms of getting up to speed with Android releases.
Google is also not helping in this case as they will probably not release anything for AOSP development.
For the Galaxy S lines, we just starting to receive 2.3.3 on certain areas....
Yes, I was tempted to return the Tab 10.1 for the Transformer. I just like the Tab because of the size and screen.
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International version of Galaxy S I9000 got the Gingerbread a long time back, and that's what Dev have been using to port the American counter port. In US, the updates are controlled by the Cell provider. Since Samsung Tab 10.1 esp. wi-fi, models have nothing to do with cell providers, I hope Samsung release the update shortly after Google release the new version of HC or ICS. I can say the same for Gtab LTE version (I remember people who got the xoom 3G model, didn't see the HC 3.1 for a long time, even though, it was updated for the wi-fi version. I guess same is true for the new HC 3.2 for xoom 3G).
Well, if Samsung fails to update Samsung Tab 10.1 (wi-fi) on regular basis, I'm sure, they are going to screw lots of people and may avoid buying their products or even recommending to their friends and families. Samsung needs to understand that, just by making a great product is not a great product in real world, until they too show a love for what their customers are missing and how soon those things can be fixed.
tabing said:
op whats new in 3.2?
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http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-3.2.html
Two main things : better support for some legacy apps (filling up the screen like iOS) and better support for SD cards.
Osho
i have a touchwhiz rom running on mine and it is amazingly smooth......
After 10 years of loving my windows phones I have had nothing but horrible experiences with the Dell Venue Pro (and dealing with DELL) and MS canceling out phone support for Zune systems of any kind, i'm switching to Android.
What I'd like to know, now that the new 4.0 OS (Ice cream / SDK) has been released what is the most powerful phone on the market or coming out in the next month or so?
What i'm looking for is the best of everything in one device. This means power and capabilities, but also means the ability to crack into my phone without issue (software mods as well as hardware mods). I would also be nice if the phone could use the 1700/2100 frequencies.
Alright so I don't know a lot about the bands that has never really been an issue for me because i have at&t but, here is the device that I would be looking at. The HTC Holiday does include those bands as far as I can tell. This device will (should) have a 1.5ghz processor 1 gb of ram, LTE, and best of all the htc sense UI. There are plenty of options but if you want the best you should be looking for 1.2ghz+ 1gb RAM, one of the top of the line screen options (every company has their own fancy name) I also believe the galaxy nexus will have these radio bands as well.
Anyone else have more good thoughts?
The Galaxy nexus releases Nov. 10 on Verizon and all carriers will get it sometime after that. That will be the only phone running 4.0 (ICS) for awhile. The Galaxy SII is running gingerbread, but is a great phone as well and will be eventually updated to ICS. The SII is available on all carriers right now. So to sum it up, if you want to wait...get the nexus. If the wait is too long (no eta on other carriers yet) get the galaxy SII.
I agree with the above, galaxy SII is a good choice for sure.
Alright, so I saw that SingTel has only a few smartphones available for now and I would like to ask if I should go for this phone. Obviously its cheaper than the Galaxy S II and should be umder my budget. My question is:
Will it be worth it to buy even in next year April. Cos I'm not sure of what is going to be developed on the phone and what are the things that would bbe developed on this phone for (like MIUI ICS and ICS based ROMs or even ICS Update)
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MrChaosDesire said:
Alright, so I saw that SingTel has only a few smartphones available for now and I would like to ask if I should go for this phone. Obviously its cheaper than the Galaxy S II and should be umder my budget. My question is:
Will it be worth it to buy even in next year April. Cos I'm not sure of what is going to be developed on the phone and what are the things that would bbe developed on this phone for (like MIUI ICS and ICS based ROMs or even ICS Update)
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Unless I am seriously stupid (high probability) your statement about when you are planning to buy it was ambiguous, and needs clarity. So you are asking if you should buy now, or would it still be worth buying in April?
The evo 3D has good hardware, it is no longer bleeding edge or cutting edge in terms of its hardware or performance but currently is still very much a device that has good performance and value for its price.
Now, in April if the reason you are asking if it is still worth buying because you have some partial or full discount upgrade and want to know if it is still worth buying in comparison to the current or future device releases before or around April, then I am going to suggest differently. I have not read or searched for any up coming devices, but without looking I think I could accurately say with confidence that there will be a device released before or around April that has better performance than the evo 3D, and also would come stock with ICS. If that is the case that ends up being true then I recommend you wait for one of those devices. Just my opinion of course
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Unless I am seriously stupid (high probability) your statement about when you are planning to buy it was ambiguous, and needs clarity. So you are asking if you should buy now, or would it still be worth buying in April?
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I'm confused on the same thing! (So either we both are stupid or it really doesn't make any sense) I would pick HTC over Samsung because I'm not a fan of the AMOLED screens. The vividness of them is nice, but almost seems too fake to me. Defiantly not better then the qHD and HD screens. And if you compare the communities, I think we here in the EVO 3D community have a good strong bond and a lot to offer. If your looking for a phone now, I'd go with the EVO 3D, if your going to wait till April, then id hold off.
Support TrevE! Fah Q CIQ!!
Whoops sorry. My english standard is too low to understand I guess
I don't want to have anything a very high specs since I don't really require as much juice as 1.5Ghz, and just wanted to know if by April 2012 the phone would get the ICS Update from HTC, if so I would go ahead and get it as the top priority now for considering to buy a phone is whether or not the phone would be getting the ICS Update.
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Whoops sorry. My english standard is too low to understand I guess
I don't want to have anything a very high specs since I don't really require as much juice as 1.5Ghz, and just wanted to know if by April 2012 the phone would get the ICS Update from HTC, if so I would go ahead and get it as the top priority now for considering to buy a phone is whether or not the phone would be getting the ICS Update.
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That's ok, I understand English as a second language must be difficult. Thanks for trying either way! I have not read any reports on whether or not it will get ICS officially or not, but it will definitely get ICS as a custom ROM before then. I believe the drivers for the evo 3D are being released at the end of December (this is what is currently holding back its development for the 3D). If you are willing to root and flash a custom ROM then I would say yes ICS is coming before April.
I'm looking to upgrade my phone, and am having trouble deciding which phone to purchase. For reference, any phone I buy will be rooted with the hopes of placing the latest release of CM on it. I am also a Verizon user, and will be using the Verizon version of these phones.
Galaxy Nexus:
Pros: Relatively cheap, made by Google so guaranteed a steady stream of updates for the next year or two, large community base.
Cons: Its hardware isn't top notch (although still good), and could possibly be considered 'outdated' in the Android world within the next few months.
Samsung Galaxy SIII:
Pros: Fantastic hardware, large community base (although not as large as the above's), if not updated regularly I can still see the community bringing out next-version updates via ROMs for the foreseeable future.
Cons: Expensive, may be a few weeks till rooted and custom ROMs available.
Of course, there's always the option that I wait a few months for Google to release some new phones with Jelly Bean pre-installed.
Thoughts?
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I'm looking to upgrade my phone, and am having trouble deciding which phone to purchase. For reference, any phone I buy will be rooted with the hopes of placing the latest release of CM on it. I am also a Verizon user, and will be using the Verizon version of these phones.
Galaxy Nexus:
Pros: Relatively cheap, made by Google so guaranteed a steady stream of updates for the next year or two, large community base.
Cons: Its hardware isn't top notch (although still good), and could possibly be considered 'outdated' in the Android world within the next few months.
Samsung Galaxy SIII:
Pros: Fantastic hardware, large community base (although not as large as the above's), if not updated regularly I can still see the community bringing out next-version updates via ROMs for the foreseeable future.
Cons: Expensive, may be a few weeks till rooted and custom ROMs available.
Of course, there's always the option that I wait a few months for Google to release some new phones with Jelly Bean pre-installed.
Thoughts?
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it depends on your opinion if you have the advantage of budget go for s3 without a 2nd thought....nexus if are budget constrained...both of them are best in their own price range...s3 better specs camera..nexus camera is not top class which might come into consideration.,....i dunno abt carriears in us....don know about that..........hope this helps.......
I would get the SIII, since Nexus doesn't have SD card and SIII specs are very appealing. But I find Nexus way prettier than SIII.
Hi all,
I love installing custom roms on my hardware and seeing what they can do. It's just plain fun for me
That said, I've had two tablets, a Nook Tablet and a Sero 7 Pro. Both are great, but the Nook took nearly a year to crack the boot loader and for the first roms to emerge, and despite some dedicated work by XboxeXpert and other on the Sero, Hisense refuses to release the source and development is pretty much paralyzed over there.
I'm sick to death of it. My wife has promised me a new 10 inch tablet this christmas, and number one on my shopping list OPEN FOR THE DEVS! Second on the list is decent hardware, followed by reasonable price. I don't need the latest and greatest as long as it performs decently.
Searching the interwebs for this information, I find tons of threads about the best roms, the best tablets, etc, but I've not found any (including here) about the most open, and the most dev support.
So I'm looking for thoughts - what is the most dev-friendly 10" tablet? Which tablet has the most roms available? If you are a dev, which tablet do you love working on?
Thanks for any ideas!
TM
P.S: If you are a manufacturer or sales rep lurking the forum (we know you do) understand that this sale will be entirely based on whether your stuff is unlocked. I'm talking to you, Hisense...
Nexus or Samsung
tmoulder said:
Hi all,
I love installing custom roms on my hardware and seeing what they can do. It's just plain fun for me
That said, I've had two tablets, a Nook Tablet and a Sero 7 Pro. Both are great, but the Nook took nearly a year to crack the boot loader and for the first roms to emerge, and despite some dedicated work by XboxeXpert and other on the Sero, Hisense refuses to release the source and development is pretty much paralyzed over there.
I'm sick to death of it. My wife has promised me a new 10 inch tablet this christmas, and number one on my shopping list OPEN FOR THE DEVS! Second on the list is decent hardware, followed by reasonable price. I don't need the latest and greatest as long as it performs decently.
Searching the interwebs for this information, I find tons of threads about the best roms, the best tablets, etc, but I've not found any (including here) about the most open, and the most dev support.
So I'm looking for thoughts - what is the most dev-friendly 10" tablet? Which tablet has the most roms available? If you are a dev, which tablet do you love working on?
Thanks for any ideas!
TM
P.S: If you are a manufacturer or sales rep lurking the forum (we know you do) understand that this sale will be entirely based on whether your stuff is unlocked. I'm talking to you, Hisense...
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If you want good support and plenty of custom ROMs, I'd personally go with either the Nexus 10 or a Samsung tablet. When it comes to the Nexus the reasons are obvious & Samsung is a widely used brand and will most likely have a great user base & dev support.
The Nexus 10, hands down. But don't go buy one today. The 2nd generation is rumored to be unveiled soon.