I am pretty tempted to restock mine and get the skyrocket. It sports a 1.5ghz processor and 4g LTE. I need to constantly check emails and upload documents, so LTE would be super helpful. Anyone else tempted?
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I am very angry with this!!! Actually OF COURSE I will restock!!
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IMO, 4G is not worth the upgrade (especially since I dont have it in my area anyway) and the 1.5dual core is only a fractional upgrade from our 1.2dual core. just my opinion but its not worth the upgrade. AT&T only has 4G in like 6 areas around the country. Unless you are one of them, why upgrade?
I'm still in the return period for my phone, I'm tempted to turn it in and get it, but I'm worried about battery life
Not even the slightest!
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The Snapdragon is proven to do poorly compared to the Exynos clock-for-clock. So it has to get clocked higher to achieve similar performance. As a result - worse battery life and more heat for no performance benefit.
Similarly - LTE means awful battery life and a fat overweight phone, just ask any Verizon user.
Last but not least - check out the T989 development forums, and realize that you have the exact same hardware.
As tempted as I was to get the Galaxy Nexus ... 0%
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Entropy512 said:
The Snapdragon is proven to do poorly compared to the Exynos clock-for-clock. So it has to get clocked higher to achieve similar performance. As a result - worse battery life and more heat for no performance benefit.
Similarly - LTE means awful battery life and a fat overweight phone, just ask any Verizon user.
Last but not least - check out the T989 development forums, and realize that you have the exact same hardware.
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The processor in the Skyrocket is the new 1.5ghz Exynos I believe.
Entropy512 said:
The Snapdragon is proven to do poorly compared to the Exynos clock-for-clock. So it has to get clocked higher to achieve similar performance. As a result - worse battery life and more heat for no performance benefit.
Similarly - LTE means awful battery life and a fat overweight phone, just ask any Verizon user.
Last but not least - check out the T989 development forums, and realize that you have the exact same hardware.
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They didn't say it was the snapdragon. Bulk doesn't really bother me either, i owned an iphone 3gs for 2 years.
EDIT: Yup it's the Exynos 1.5ghz, which is 30% more efficient and has 50% better 3d performance and overall performance.
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The processor in the Skyrocket is the new 1.5ghz Exynos I believe.
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Source?
And as to the topic question, no, I'm not tempted. I was before I realized that nothing of this new device will really benefit me for the proposed cost difference.
800x480 on a 4.5" screen....ehhhhh
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Source?
And as to the topic question, no, I'm not tempted. I was before I realized that nothing of this new device will really benefit me for the proposed cost difference.
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Samsung already announced the Exynos 1.5ghz a while ago, hinting at a SGS2 release
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile...z-exynos-4212-dual-core-mobile-chip-20110929/
Still rumors, but:
http://techie-buzz.com/mobile-news/att-samsung-galaxy-s2-skyrocket-specs-features-price.html
I doubt AT&T would go with the snapdragon, then no one would upgrade
No. I'm not interested.
Same screen resolution and technology in a slightly larger screen - if anything it won't look as good.
Qualcomm processor - good processor but not on the same par as Samsung exynos
LTE radio, but I'm no where near LTE market. I may go through one more phone upgrade before LTE its deployed in a wide enough range to make it worth while. Plus another year or two will help them improve battery life on the LTE Phones.
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I doubt AT&T would go with the snapdragon, then no one would upgrade
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That assumes that 95% of the public would know the difference.
All the public sees is 1.5 > 1.2 and 4.5 > 4.3. Just like 4G > 3G. Most people don't know the difference, and wouldnt notice the difference in use.
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No. I'm not interested.
Same screen resolution and technology in a slightly larger screen - if anything it won't look as good.
Qualcomm processor - good processor but not on the same par as Samsung exynos
LTE radio, but I'm no where near LTE market. I may go through one more phone upgrade before LTE its deployed in a wide enough range to make it worth while. Plus another year or two will help them improve battery life on the LTE Phones.
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AGAIN....
Samsung already announced the Exynos 1.5ghz a while ago, hinting at a SGS2 release
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile...z-exynos-4212-dual-core-mobile-chip-20110929/
Still rumors, but:
http://techie-buzz.com/mobile-news/att-samsung-galaxy-s2-skyrocket-specs-features-price.html
I doubt AT&T would go with the snapdragon, then no one would upgrade
Note only got a 1.4 GHz version bump - why would the Skyrocket get a 1.5 GHz Exynos if the Note doesn't even get it?
In addition, every Samsung device with an "unusual" radio has had a Snapdragon or OMAP.
Right now there isn't definitive confirmation, but all of the evidence says it's the same CPU as the T989:
http://androidapproved.com/item/att...i-skyrocket-and-htc-vivid-as-their-first-lte/
If it were Exynos, Samsung would be playing it up.
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AGAIN....
Samsung already announced the Exynos 1.5ghz a while ago, hinting at a SGS2 release
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile...z-exynos-4212-dual-core-mobile-chip-20110929/
Still rumors, but:
http://techie-buzz.com/mobile-news/att-samsung-galaxy-s2-skyrocket-specs-features-price.html
I doubt AT&T would go with the snapdragon, then no one would upgrade
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I know the 1.5 exynos processor has been announced and it has been heavily implied that chip will be the one in the galaxy note when it comes out.
Could it be in the skyrocket, sure, but I doubt it. Every other sgs2 with 1.5 processor has been a Qualcomm.
And it has been also said this phone will have Qualcomm's LTE combo radio - if it does have that radio, then it will have the Qualcomm processor as well.
although this is all speculation at this point, we won't know for sure until next week. But I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for this to be the first phone with the exynos 1.5. I expect that will be the galaxy note, or something like the galaxy note.
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More likely that it's the Qualcomm at this point since Exynos is just a rumor and an assumption based on clock speed. Galaxy S II LTE models all have the Qualcomm chips in them, including the Rogers Galaxy LTE which is pretty much a Canadian AT&T since they get the same phones.
I already returned sgs2 just now... back to atrix for 6 days... will get HTC vivid instead...
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I'm tempted but not if it's using the snapdragon
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I hate to bring this up here when the Rezound isn't even released yet but what's the deal with this phone?
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...rs/ShsH+(xda-developers)&utm_content=FaceBook
And 1st or 2nd quarter of 2012? Might be worth waiting for if it comes to Verizon.
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There will always be something better just around the corner...
And quad core won't make a big difference. There is nothing to do with that much power that android allows. Also, it is HSPA so that means Tmobile or ATT
I doubt it's real Tegra sucks IMO incredibly slow compared to other dual cores and HTC Sticks with qualcomm
Ok, Rezound it is.
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Stupid htc will probably give it a 1600 battery.
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Honestly the specs on this do look impressive though, Dual core 1.5 Ghz processor, a TRUE HD display if you look at resolution it will be highest even compared to the Moto RAZR and Samsung Nexus. Also has that whole Pure Beats audio thing going for it, depending on how much that matters.
With some rooting this could technically be the top for hardware in VZW's new 4G line up
Ehh, this phone is kinda ugly anyways, even if the quad-core mattered, and if it was on Verizon, I wouldn't wait for it. I don't like that big of a screen either, it's ridiculous. Vigor is where it's at
Yup. ReZound FTW.
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Stupid htc will probably give it a 1600 battery.
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I think they said it will be a 1650 battery.
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Honestly the specs on this do look impressive though, Dual core 1.5 Ghz processor, a TRUE HD display if you look at resolution it will be highest even compared to the Moto RAZR and Samsung Nexus. Also has that whole Pure Beats audio thing going for it, depending on how much that matters.
With some rooting this could technically be the top for hardware in VZW's new 4G line up
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its the same processor on the evo 3d just clocked higher out of the box
so we should be able go get 1.9ghz with custom kernels
Another Leaked phone
HTC Ville
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7...id-smartphone/
Supposedly gonna be the first with the Snapdragon S4 processor, 1.5GHz, and Android 4.0 + Sense 4.0, and 4.3 inch screen, with qHD, and super amoled type screen.
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HTC Ville
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7...id-smartphone/
Supposedly gonna be the first with the Snapdragon S4 processor, 1.5GHz, and Android 4.0 + Sense 4.0, and 4.3 inch screen, with qHD, and super amoled type screen.
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The link isn't working. "404 Page Not Found"
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The link isn't working. "404 Page Not Found"
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Weird. Well, you can google it, "HTC Ville", I found it by accident somewhere, but after I googled it, I saw a ton of articles on it already
Edit: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_...umored-as-first-sense-4.0-android-smartphone/ I went back to that website, and recopied it, maybe it'll work now
if you're intrigued by the whole 'quad-core' thing, don't. it's going to be quite some time before phones will even take real advantage of that.
heck, even then, for instance my netbook has an i7 cpu in it and at any given time it's only using between 5 - 10% of the cpu. that and playing a game it'll average 30 - 40%. so really an i7 is unecessary.
also, if you're into speed... in no time we'll be able to overclock the re:Zound(not that we need to). Hell, my Thunderbolt's 1 jigga hertz cpu is overclocked to 1.9
but again, there will be no point in overclocking for a loooong time.
I think the HTC Edge is their sleekest and classiest phone design to date! Screw quad-core, give me it right now with current specs! Throw in a good low-power dual-core OMAP processor at 1Ghz, steal the camera unit off of Samsung's flagship, slap an 1800mah battery in there and I'll be happy!
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I think the HTC Edge is their sleekest and classiest phone design to date! Screw quad-core, give me it right now with current specs! Throw in a good low-power dual-core OMAP processor at 1Ghz, steal the camera unit off of Samsung's flagship, slap an 1800mah battery in there and I'll be happy!
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id agree except ford yhe battery. minimum of 5000mAh please.
dmeadows013 said:
And quad core won't make a big difference. There is nothing to do with that much power that android allows. Also, it is HSPA so that means Tmobile or ATT
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Correct me if I am wrong, but the big news about the new quad-core phones is not only performance, but the capacity to save 30/40% of battery life more, compare to dual cores:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/mobile...Performance_Benchmarks_of_Tegra_3_Kal_El.html
katamari201 said:
I think the HTC Edge is their sleekest and classiest phone design to date! Screw quad-core, give me it right now with current specs! Throw in a good low-power dual-core OMAP processor at 1Ghz, steal the camera unit off of Samsung's flagship, slap an 1800mah battery in there and I'll be happy!
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Ditto, give me a 720p screen though.
Hi guys, I need some honest advise. I'm thinking of trading my Rogers note for the international version. What do you folks recommend. Following are my reasons.
1. I believe the n7000 will get ics before the Rogers I717
2. I get 4 hours of battery and find it frustrating. I heard the battery performance is better on the international version.
3. I heard n7000 is a bit faster. I find i717 gets a bit choppy during screen transitions
4. I find I717 gets quite warm while using. A little uncomfortable.
5. I hardly get full lte to care about it. 4g is fine 6. Home button on the n7000 seems nice.
What do you thinks guys? Any help would be appreciated.
thanks
PS. I posted this thread in the n7000 board too.
do it.
10char
take a look.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=5627026
pkmoazzam said:
take a look.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=5627026
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Lol
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The international version will receive ICS long before the I-717. The adreno 220 GPU in the I-717 is better than the Mali400 in the N-7000; however the CPU in the N-7000 outpaces the I-717. Both devices suffer from black clipping.
So its a trade off for CPU performance or GPU performance, 3 button or 4 button and LTE vs hspa+.
My only advice for you is if your area doesn't have LTE. Yes do it. But if you in LTE area, No. The speed is a big different. I use ATT S2 and ATT Note so i know what the difference and its worth to keep.
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+1 on if you have LTE. I've gotten spoiled to the speed. Personally I hate the look of the single physical button.
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I switched from N700 to I717 due to LTE & don't regret one bit. I still have my N7000 so I can enjoy both worlds.
If you like to flash custom roms etc then go to the N7000, development is much more active there, N7000 has ICS both AOSP based roms and an unofficial leaked one!
If you have LTE in your area then it's up to you if you want it, I mean I'd rather use my wifi router as I don't get throttled and am not going to be downloading from my phone. Besides you know how much LTE is a battery sucker
I've used both and have to say that the N-7000 just performs better in real life use and in benchmarks.
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The international version will receive ICS long before the I-717. The adreno 220 GPU in the I-717 is better than the Mali400 in the N-7000; however the CPU in the N-7000 outpaces the I-717. Both devices suffer from black clipping.
So its a trade off for CPU performance or GPU performance, 3 button or 4 button and LTE vs hspa+.
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Its the other way around, the GPU performance is better on the Exnyos due to the Mali GPU it's a multi core gpu. The CPU performance should be better on the Snapdragon processor and have better power management able to turn off one core. Lighter black levels is mainly due to gamma levels tweaking in mdnie settings. I believe supercurio is working on a new application.
ICS will be on the way there is already a leak for the skyrocket, so they are working on the snapdragon variants with lte.. Porting time is much more dependent on the galaxy note premium suite and how long it will take to integrate to the touchwiz ics framework, then Q&A.
Differences are NFC and LTE radio on the i717. I suppose you would want the to switch N7000 if your focus is on playing games that require 3d, rather than using it as a work phone/tablet. Or not interested or don't have a LTE plan. Performance is relatively the same if you overclock the I717 to the N7000.
There other ways to push performance like overclocking the gpu (when a usermode adjustment is available.) I'm guessing the Max for the Adreno 220 is in the ball park of 320 MHz. Saving aittle more battery by undervolting. Battery drain is also due to baseband and Rom optimization, which will get better in subsequent releases.
It just really depends if you plan foregoing LTE and Rogers is pretty congested at peak hours on their HSPA network compared to their LTE network. NFC is a big factor as well as more products and services will be utilizing it in the near future. I already use it for quick file transfer between my nfc enabled devices. So it depends really if you want these features or graphics performance is a priority for you. In the future the user experience is pretty much going to be the same on both models once ICS is available.
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Its the other way around, the GPU performance is better on the Exnyos due to the Mali GPU it's a multi core gpu. The CPU performance should be better on the Snapdragon processor and have better power management able to turn off one core. Lighter black levels is mainly due to gamma levels tweaking in mdnie settings. I believe supercurio is working on a new application.
ICS will be on the way there is already a leak for the skyrocket, so they are working on the snapdragon variants with lte.. Porting time is much more dependent on the galaxy note premium suite and how long it will take to integrate to the touchwiz ics framework, then Q&A.
Differences are NFC and LTE radio on the i717. I suppose you would want the to switch N7000 if your focus is on playing games that require 3d, rather than using it as a work phone/tablet. Or not interested or don't have a LTE plan. Performance is relatively the same if you overclock the I717 to the N7000.
There other ways to push performance like overclocking the gpu (when a usermode adjustment is available.) I'm guessing the Max for the Adreno 220 is in the ball park of 320 MHz. Saving aittle more battery by undervolting. Battery drain is also due to baseband and Rom optimization, which will get better in subsequent releases.
It just really depends if you plan foregoing LTE and Rogers is pretty congested at peak hours on their HSPA network compared to their LTE network. NFC is a big factor as well as more products and services will be utilizing it in the near future. I already use it for quick file transfer between my nfc enabled devices. So it depends really if you want these features or graphics performance is a priority for you. In the future the user experience is pretty much going to be the same on both models once ICS is available.
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http://10division.com/samsung-galaxy-s2-hd-lte-vs-samsung-galaxy-s2-the-unofficial-comparison-guide/
I based my opinion on this article and the anandtech article linked within. Both devices use exactly the same hardware as the N-7000 and I-717 other than the screen.
The Adreno 220 is roughly 2.2 times the GPU as the Mali 400. What made the real difference is the Note has 2.67 times the pixles of the SGS2 while using the same Mali 400 GPU. If the N-7000 shipped with the Exynos 4212 it would have the quad core Mali 400 mp4.
wingman_214 said:
The international version will receive ICS long before the I-717. The adreno 220 GPU in the I-717 is better than the Mali400 in the N-7000; however the CPU in the N-7000 outpaces the I-717. Both devices suffer from black clipping.
So its a trade off for CPU performance or GPU performance, 3 button or 4 button and LTE vs hspa+.
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Err... Says who? Every single piece of benchmarks and every datasheets out there clearly show that the Adreno 220 is a piece if crap next to the MALI 400
Seriously why do people say things out of thin air as if it was an undeniable truth...
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My decision was easy for moving to the n7000 from i717:
Better Battery life+performance+bigger dev support= no brainer
Did i mention better battery life?
At least for me anyways.
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bkeaver said:
My decision was easy for moving to the n7000 from i717:
Better Battery life+performance+bigger dev support= no brainer
Did i mention better battery life?
At least for me anyways.
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do you still have att gs note i717? i see you have both n7000 and i717. probably thats why you told us your decision was easy for moving to the n7000 to i717 even you still have i717, but if you didn't have the i717 then it would be hard for you to make a decide. if you don't have present i717 then i am wrong.
sorry for my bad english.
Yeah you are correct i do still have the at&t version but i haven't touched it since getting the n7000 version. I have only had this version for a week but i have had the at&t version since pre sale release on February 17th and i just haven't had the chance to list it to sell it yet. So yeah it probably did make my decision much easier but that gives me the opportunity to pass that on that opinion on to someone in your situation and maybe help you decide.
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I just wanted to add this. While NFC may see pretty lame right now, for those that are security conscious, that is going to change this summer. As long as you get it enabled by changing ROMs, you will be able to use YubiCo's new NFC enabled security tokens, which will be fully integrated with LastPass. Check those out.
bkeaver said:
Yeah you are correct i do still have the at&t version but i haven't touched it since getting the n7000 version. I have only had this version for a week but i have had the at&t version since pre sale release on February 17th and i just haven't had the chance to list it to sell it yet. So yeah it probably did make my decision much easier but that gives me the opportunity to pass that on that opinion on to someone in your situation and maybe help you decide.
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ah cool. so how speed is internet on n7000?
Just in case some of you missed it over at android central.
Just a quick demo of the S4 Krait vs the Tegra 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6xb8t3FoFI&feature=player_embedded
Source:By Chris Parsons
http://www.androidcentral.com/att-one-x-benchmarks-pit-qualcomm-snapdragon-s4-against-nvidia-tegra-3
the Tegra 3 should probably shine when a Tegra 3 optimized app is used for comparison. not sure if you need special software framework to take advantage of the quad core +1
S4 build off the a15 takes the cake. Qualcomm did a great job with it.
some benchmarks indicate the tegra is more powerful and some indicate that the snapdragon is more powerful however it is ussually hinted that the snapdragon will provide similar performance but save battery because of its asynchronous dual cores. really it is all about software and drivers and nvidia is renowned for their developments in both. nvidia will get the game first, run them smoothly and display well optimized graphics. it doesn`t matter how pwerful the hardware is if the software can`t take advantage of it. this is clearly indicated in the last generation snapdragons which had terrible gpu issues due to poor gpu drivers. keep in mind however that many apps have not been optimised for quad core and may not run at their best.
Yes this is pretty well known here...each SoC has its own advantage over the other....specifically the Tegra3 should sin out GPU wise, while the S4 wins out in some other categories...
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Yes this is pretty well known here...each SoC has its own advantage over the other....specifically the Tegra3 should sin out GPU wise, while the S4 wins out in some other categories...
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Did you not see the video? S4 spanked tegra3 in the graphics benchmark
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Why was his tegra3 phone so much smaller? I thought they were both the same size just different soc?
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Why was his tegra3 phone so much smaller? I thought they were both the same size just different soc?
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They are the same size one phone was on display platform and the other was laying flat..... Basically both phones in different angles.
pretty intresting test breakup, tegra 3 looks to have cpu cores with a lot more omph but its extremely memory-starved, even if nominally it should have twice the mhz for memory than s4 (from the datasheet, dunno what kind of memory HTC actually shipped in that phone)
as for graphics its a bit funny that the S4 gpu core is a development of one ati/amd project(*), even here we have ati/amd VS nvidia showoff...
(*) selling their mobile division for pocket change just when mobile chips were starting to become the biggest cpu business in the world was really the stupidiest thing even done by amd...
Anyone else have the feeling S4 gonna spank the new G3 Exynos chip too ?
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Anyone else have the feeling S4 gonna spank the new G3 Exynos chip too ?
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Dont know about spank, but it will be on par with everything except for graphics. I would expect the exynos to be better because of the GPU.
Is it just me or does the speed of a processor matter anymore?
Seriously. I have tried murdering my 3D with tons of roms, multiple resource hungry apps, graphics intense games, fancy live wall papers, and STILL. She barely breaks a sweat.
I do understand bragging rights with fellow gadget heads but really as long as I can play my occasional game, listen to music, watch porn, and do my social thing, I'm happy as can be. Battery life is my bragging game now.
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Is it just me or does the speed of a processor matter anymore?
Seriously. I have tried murdering my 3D with tons of roms, multiple resource hungry apps, graphics intense games, fancy live wall papers, and STILL. She barely breaks a sweat.
I do understand bragging rights with fellow gadget heads but really as long as I can play my occasional game, listen to music, watch porn, and do my social thing, I'm happy as can be. Battery life is my bragging game now.
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I don't know about you, but I use the MEAN ROM and while it is the best ROM hands down, I still don't get the performance I would expect from a dual core phone. It is the best performer among other ROMS, but still not what I would expect in this day and age. When I am connected to WIFI, I would expect that my web pages (on device), load as fast as on my PC... or at least almost as fast. This has never been the case with any ROM or any phone. Once that happens, I will be close to happy.
I am guessing that the biggest limiter these days is the speed of internal memory? Does anyone know how that compares to PC memory?
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I don't know about you, but I use the MEAN ROM and while it is the best ROM hands down, I still don't get the performance I would expect from a dual core phone. It is the best performer among other ROMS, but still not what I would expect in this day and age. When I am connected to WIFI, I would expect that my web pages (on device), load as fast as on my PC... or at least almost as fast. This has never been the case with any ROM or any phone. Once that happens, I will be close to happy.
I am guessing that the biggest limiter these days is the speed of internal memory? Does anyone know how that compares to PC memory?
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That makes sense. But is it the gpu that makes it slower than a pc? I want faster page loading too.
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my evo 3d got 3500 in quadrant, nearly 2x of gtab at 810 megahertz. sk rom is crazy. However, I think the tegra 3 is better because companion core and doesn't afraid of anything.
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my evo 3d got 3500 in quadrant, nearly 2x of gtab at 810 megahertz. sk rom is crazy. However, I think the tegra 3 is better because companion core and doesn't afraid of anything.
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Companion core doesn't do anything sir, the 28 nm process on the s4 kills the tegra 3 in battery, even with 4glte on
Source: anandtech htc one x for att review
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I'm thinking I'm waiting for the s4 quad cores to come out. That will be epic
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Companion core doesn't do anything sir, the 28 nm process on the s4 kills the tegra 3 in battery, even with 4glte on
Source: anandtech htc one x for att review
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Tegra is still better because you have the privilege of having a tablet with 4 cores. If you say "oh I got a tablet with 2 ARM cortex 15 cores, nobodys gonna get what you're saying.".
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I'm thinking I'm waiting for the s4 quad cores to come out. That will be epic
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They already have them I believe its a 32 nm it has everything that the s4 has except the LTE
.Elite_The_King. said:
They already have them I believe its a 32 nm it has everything that the s4 has except the LTE
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The 32nm quad core is by Samsung and is the Exynos SoC, not an S4...Currently the only S4 in the Qualcomm roadmap for this year is the APQ8064, and it has no modem so likely a tablet only chip...
Now the rumor of the VZ HTC phone for the holidays this year states they will have a quadcore S4 in it, which is odd given the roadmap leaks as the earliest MSM(these are the ones with built in modems) variant quad-core was not listed till Q1 of '13...
btw saw you got the credit for the EVOLTE buildprop and bootanimation leak on goodandevo man.
Hello,
I was looking to buy the Samsung Galaxy S3 but i'm confused as to which model should I buy. The international model or the North American model.
I cannot upgrade through my carrier (Bell Mobility in Toronto, ON) and hence either one I buy, I'll have to buy from outside.
Is the processor (dual vs quad) along with the RAM the only difference in these two models? If yes, then which one should I go for? Maybe answer in terms on battery life, ROMS available, etc etc. Would the quad core be faster than the dual core with half the RAM?
I have a regular data plan and I won't be thinking about using LTE for now.
Usage wise, I'd say I'm a moderate user and don't play very heavy games, but maybe, occasionally I might play MC3, GTA III etc. Definitely be multitasking a lot and constant texting/facebooking/checking emails etc.
I'm thinking to get the International version! But if the North American version is better, I would go for that.
Thanks
If you aren't using LTE then international model wins hands down.
Faster CPU
Better GPU
Wolfson WM1811 DAC (may not be in US version.)
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It's not 1ghz and 2ghz but 1gb and 2gb of ram. I'm from Canada and I chose the int one because of dev support, better GPU, future quadcore optimization, I don't care about LTE since I have 2GB of data monthly and 3G+ is enough for me. Also audio as nodstuff said, earlier release and finally 1gb is enough, I'm doing heavy multitasking and I never reached the 1GB of ram, the redraw issue can be fixed by editing a file and I'm sure it will be the same for the US version. So yeah int version is the best for me, now you have to find out which one is the best for YOU.
IMO, LTE is not all it's cracked up to be, if you don't have unlimited data then it's not really worth it. I'm not going to sacrifice faster CPU/GPU for a 2GB cap LTE.
Needless to say I got international version.
S_Dot said:
IMO, LTE is not all it's cracked up to be, if you don't have unlimited data then it's not really worth it. I'm not going to sacrifice faster CPU/GPU for a 2GB cap LTE.
Needless to say I got international version.
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+1 I also got the international version and I'm on AT&T
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there already is such thread in the general section. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683261
also there is no 2ghz vs 1ghz. there is 1gb ram vs 2 gb ram.
nodstuff said:
If you aren't using LTE then international model wins hands down.
Faster CPU
Better GPU
Wolfson WM1811 DAC (may not be in US version.)
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1) Faster CPU? R u blind or something - Krait uses a highly modified A15s (which i believe what everyone wanted before Samsung decided to step back and stay on A9s for a bit more) and to be honest it is indeed faster in real life especially when it comes to opening apps (i had a chance to play with 2 devices).
2) GPU is faster on international thou but doubt u would be able to use even half of its power (i still have ipod touch 1gen and it can handle all games except Infinity Blade as long as OS allows on its weak PowerVR MBXLite)
3) Both have Wolfson DAC
4) NA Galaxy S3 has double RAM. If u are a multitasking freak (or use alot of ram hungry apps) then u would see a performance difference. Its also there to feed S4.
5) Krait is more power effecient than exynos when just using HSPA+
6) You have an option to use LTE (battery life will start draining faster however but highly dependent on your network)
With that said Exynos is indeed more optimized (no surprise) so the experience may be slower but ALWAYS fluid. However, nothing that the xda devs cant fix!!
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1) Faster CPU? R u blind or something - Krait uses a highly modified A15s (which i believe what everyone wanted before Samsung decided to step back and stay on A9s for a bit more) and to be honest it is indeed faster in real life especially when it comes to opening apps (i had a chance to play with 2 devices).
2) GPU is faster on international thou but doubt u would be able to use even half of its power (i still have ipod touch 1gen and it can handle all games except Infinity Blade as long as OS allows on its weak PowerVR MBXLite)
3) Both have Wolfson DAC
4) NA Galaxy S3 has double RAM. If u are a multitasking freak (or use alot of ram hungry apps) then u would see a performance difference. Its also there to feed S4.
5) Krait is more power effecient than exynos when just using HSPA+
6) You have an option to use LTE (battery life will start draining faster however but highly dependent on your network)
With that said Exynos is indeed more optimized (no surprise) so the experience may be slower but ALWAYS fluid. However, nothing that the xda devs cant fix!!
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Optimised A-9's built on 32nm Fab. Process with HKMG.
Krait is not more energy efficient, research high k metal gate which is used in the exynos 4412.
As for wolfson DAC, what us your source for that information? Supercurio said that it didn't after he came back from a trip to wolfsons facility in Edinburgh where he went after being invited to share some ideas.
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1) Faster CPU? R u blind or something - Krait uses a highly modified A15s (which i believe what everyone wanted before Samsung decided to step back and stay on A9s for a bit more) and to be honest it is indeed faster in real life especially when it comes to opening apps (i had a chance to play with 2 devices).
2) GPU is faster on international thou but doubt u would be able to use even half of its power (i still have ipod touch 1gen and it can handle all games except Infinity Blade as long as OS allows on its weak PowerVR MBXLite)
3) Both have Wolfson DAC
4) NA Galaxy S3 has double RAM. If u are a multitasking freak (or use alot of ram hungry apps) then u would see a performance difference. Its also there to feed S4.
5) Krait is more power effecient than exynos when just using HSPA+
6) You have an option to use LTE (battery life will start draining faster however but highly dependent on your network)
With that said Exynos is indeed more optimized (no surprise) so the experience may be slower but ALWAYS fluid. However, nothing that the xda devs cant fix!!
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Well I'm a multitasking freak and I never reached the 780mb alowed, the ram is managed really well, your argument is invalid.
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Reviewers have already indicated that the NA SIII is indeed faster in regards to cpu and slightly better in battery life. It was also proven that the INT SIII has a significantly better gpu. Nonetheless, both versions are fantastic and have their tradeoffs.
I prefer the international phone. Fast and clean phone, unlimited for $10 with high speed enough for me. Love the battery, last for a long hard day.
Decision Made!!
Thanks for the responses guys!!
I finally got my hands on the International model and been playing with it heavily since today afternoon. They battery was at 54% when I first booted the device. Its been several hours of non-stop usage and the battery life seems to be good. Of course its too early to make any conclusion.
Overall, I'm loving it. Its so smooth!!
So glad I decided to sell my note to get this one. No doubt the note was/still is an excellent device. But I love S3 more!!! <3 :laugh:
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Thanks for the responses guys!!
I finally got my hands on the International model and been playing with it heavily since today afternoon. They battery was at 54% when I first booted the device. Its been several hours of non-stop usage and the battery life seems to be good. Of course its too early to make any conclusion.
Overall, I'm loving it. Its so smooth!!
So glad I decided to sell my note to get this one. No doubt the note was/still is an excellent device. But I love S3 more!!! <3 :laugh:
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Congratz! I have this beast since monday and I'm using it everyday at work (web browsing, skype, steam, games, watching anime) auto brightness, power saving, 3g and sync always on and I get 13h with 6h30 on screen time when I get home with about 15% left! You can leave power saving even when gaming no lag no slow down, this phone is overpowered
Sent from my beautiful GS3 int unlocked, rooted and beloved.
What's the best data settings on AT&T?
I've had a bunch of data issues with the GS3 stalling out, I've changed from Auto Mode to CDMA and GSM, all don't do much.
I am running the standard APN and my current plan is a LTE unlimited plan since I also have an AT&T HTC One X.
Thanks
The North American S3 does NOT have a Wolfson DAC:
Qualcomm's S4 chipset uses Qualcomm's proprietary audio hub, the WCD9310. This chipset is found in the US versions of the One X, One S, and even Samsung's Galaxy S III (only the international Galaxy S III will have a Wolfson DAC, sorry guys).
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We already several of these threads...
That said, international version for all of the reasons previously mentioned.
Damn, for a moment I thought the US version was on par. The upgraded DAC would be nice.
What about gorilaglass2 ?!?!
There are a lot of videos and comments, about International version don't have Gorilaglass2, what is proven to be on US version!!!
Honestly if you are not going to us LTE then there should be no discussion about it. The international version is an amazing phone and I got it because I also don't care for LTE. If I did then I would look into the pros and cons for both versions. Since your not using LTE then looking at pros and cons is just invalid because overall international version is more optimized and even the largest multitasking user will reach MAX of 850MB... honestly. Hope it helped.
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There are a lot of videos and comments, about International version don't have Gorilaglass2, what is proven to be on US version!!!
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That is incorrect, ALL variants have gorilla glass 2. Stop talking ****.
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Hi Everyone,
Just wanted to know any provider in US is providing the quad core version of the phone? I have to get myself a new phone. And will weigh my options between iPhone 5 and S3 (just waiting for reviews and comparisons), but wanted the quad core version of the Galaxy S III.
U can get them from newegg brand new but at full price.
All the us carriers have the dual core version. And actually my brother has lte dual core version from T-Mobile and according to our test, his is slightly better in the graphics department and mine is better in cpu but not enough to tell a difference.
Sent from either Galaxy S3 intl or Nexus 7
both on stock at the moment!!
The Snapdragon has a 2GB RAM right?
Yes it does! But there is a new quad with 2gb ram coming
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I would rather choose the dualcore version. The overall speed is the same, but the snapdragon processor didn't heat up so much as the quadcore version . And the 2GB of RAM are great
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I would rather choose the dualcore version. The overall speed is the same, but the snapdragon processor didn't heat up so much as the quadcore version . And the 2GB of RAM are great
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Never felt any heat at my quad device, no offence, just telling
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SGS_elko said:
I would rather choose the dualcore version. The overall speed is the same, but the snapdragon processor didn't heat up so much as the quadcore version . And the 2GB of RAM are great
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I beg to differ. I actually have both devices currently. The overall speed is slightly different. The dualcore seems a bit quicker but it's not as smooth and fluid as the 9300. You really can only tell having them side by side by the US version is slightly more jerky than the 9300. I'm not saying the US is a slouch at all but side by side you can see the difference.
The JB leak on the US version has made it super smooth though. I believe project butter is farther along on the dualcore JB leaks than the 9300 leaks.
About the heat, my US version actually heats up more than my 9300. The Ram department I'm not seeing a huge difference there either. I mean sure the US has more free ram available but so far I havent noticed anything too different. I mean I have over 700mb free on my US version now. I opened an app like 20 min ago came back to it and it had to relaunch so even though I had over 700MB free the app still closed itself(or android did)
They are both great devices and I do find myself switching between the two. LTE is very nice..
I really really hope they release a quad with 2gb and LTE in the US like they are in other parts of the world but I doubt they will since in their eyes NA already has a LTE capable GS3 with 2gb of ram. That would be my perfect phone
So I wouldnt hold my breath for them releasing one in the US that just has Quadcore with 2gb of ram and LTE but I guess I can hope
The international version has a faster GPU by quite a way. However, if I were you I'd focus more on whether you require 4G than whether you can get hold of the quad core. The reality is that the quad core processor is not better. If I had the choice I'd have gone for the S4, but of course that choice was not there.
hell_storm2004 said:
Hi Everyone,
Just wanted to know any provider in US is providing the quad core version of the phone? I have to get myself a new phone. And will weigh my options between iPhone 5 and S3 (just waiting for reviews and comparisons), but wanted the quad core version of the Galaxy S III.
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While many are responding to your question about S3 quad vs US dual core differences, I wanted to respond to your iPhone 5 vs S3 doubt.
I think you should first of all think about screen size. In my opinion, 4" and 4.8" are totally different things. For me the choice is simple, I wouldn't want the iPhone because the screen is too small. The apps can be fantastic and fluid on the iPhone, I will enjoy them more on a (much) larger 4.8" screen. The iPhone 5 seems to really have a (exynos 5 based) dual core A15 based processor, which is pretty neat. The performance should be really great while battery life will be solid as well. Anyway, it all doesn't matter because the screen is too small!
So I would say think about this, if you still have doubts between the iPhone 5 and the S3 (whatever version)
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Confirmed A15 ?
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No nothing is confirmed it might be a15s but definitely not exynos!!
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Ausboy 2011 said:
No nothing is confirmed it might be a15s but definitely not exynos!!
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Maybe the same processor used in new Sony smartphones.
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Not exynos, exynos based or exynos cousin.
It is apple A6.
Also A-15 is a rumour, NOTHING is for certain.
"It's all in the game yo, all in the game..." - Omar Little
There is no way u would choose the dual core 2gb over the quad core 2gb. Thats a joke. They done a comparison and the dual core 2gb is equal to the quad 1gb. So let's just imagine the quad with 2gb
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Maybe the same processor used in new Sony smartphones.
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No apple made the cpu in house so it's there own cpu
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I also own both devices and I've been having such a hard time deciding on which one to keep and which one to sell. The US version definitely is jerkier on ICS. I'm downloading the T-Mobile JB leak right now, but I was running one of the Canadian leaks and it still felt jerky like ICS was. Battery life between the two seems pretty even although the International seems to win out. Also I'm on Straight Talks so LTE isn't a factor for me. The US model probably due to the modems and what not seems to be better with straight talk than my International does. Sound quality I have to say is better on the i9300 vs. 747. Even with cheapo headphones I was noticing some songs sounded worse on the i747 vs. i9300. I'm still going back and forth. The 2gb of ram is nice, but I really haven't seen any difference in the Ram usage between the two. The S4 seems to kill background processes the same as the Exynos. There definitely seems to be more development for the International model over the US one, but seeing as Sprint, T-Mo, AT&T, and Verizon are all the same there's still a lot of development and if one gets a better leak than the others it quickly gets ported.
duowing said:
I also own both devices and I've been having such a hard time deciding on which one to keep and which one to sell. The US version definitely is jerkier on ICS. I'm downloading the T-Mobile JB leak right now, but I was running one of the Canadian leaks and it still felt jerky like ICS was. Battery life between the two seems pretty even although the International seems to win out. Also I'm on Straight Talks so LTE isn't a factor for me. The US model probably due to the modems and what not seems to be better with straight talk than my International does. Sound quality I have to say is better on the i9300 vs. 747. Even with cheapo headphones I was noticing some songs sounded worse on the i747 vs. i9300. I'm still going back and forth. The 2gb of ram is nice, but I really haven't seen any difference in the Ram usage between the two. The S4 seems to kill background processes the same as the Exynos. There definitely seems to be more development for the International model over the US one, but seeing as Sprint, T-Mo, AT&T, and Verizon are all the same there's still a lot of development and if one gets a better leak than the others it quickly gets ported.
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We have the Wolfson chip that's why
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Ausboy 2011 said:
We have the Wolfson chip that's why
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I never really noticed until I was listening to songs on random. Usually when I go for a run I use my Zune HD for music, but I was using my i747 so I could use one of those GPS running apps and I was thinking man I don't remember this song sounding so muffled and flat.
duowing said:
I never really noticed until I was listening to songs on random. Usually when I go for a run I use my Zune HD for music, but I was using my i747 so I could use one of those GPS running apps and I was thinking man I don't remember this song sounding so muffled and flat.
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I have both as well and I'm thinking of using my i9300 as a media player/gaming device and stripping out all the phone stuff and using my i747 for phone functions like surfing the web texting etc.. for the LTE connection (which has spoiled me) But I think I would look pretty funny on the subway with two of the exact same devices. One for my music and one for texting.. hahha
Quad core is the way forward, if you wanted a dual then in all honesty there are better phones out there for the price tag.
A lot of people say that the extras cores aren't always utilized and they're partly right, but the overall feel of the system and gaming in particular will shine through on a quad as opposed to the dual offering.
If you have the honour of being able to choose between them, then you have to weigh up whether you want quad core or 4G.
Personally i've got wifi most places i go and HSPA is rapid for me so it's a no brainer but some ppl just want more, i myself think it's an unnecessary sacrifice.
But thats just my opinion.