I Understand that WiFi is Quicker than 3G but lately is been really Noticeable! 3G has been Really Slow... Anyone else having Horrible Connect time on 3G?
It almost sounds like you don't know what you mean when you're tossing the term WiFi around lol.
My 3g is faster than my WiFi. God damned 14.4 dial up in my house. (Lolz. JK)
I haven't noticed 3g being slower significantly. It's up and down, but not more than normal.
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It almost sounds like you don't know what you mean when you're tossing the term WiFi around lol.
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In What way? I'm Not a Noob...
I'm Simply Asking if it's just me and my phones location or if Anyone else is Having the Same Problem?
3g speeds will fluctuate and there isnt a real good way to tell if they are affected greatly outside of personal experience, we can't tell you if something is affecting your local tower, only you can
your addition of the wifi comment is why you were questioned, if you were asking simply about the 3g speeds then you bringing up the statement about wifi is extraneous and unnecessary
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In What way? I'm Not a Noob...
I'm Simply Asking if it's just me and my phones location or if Anyone else is Having the Same Problem?
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Well with this added information, you seem to be comparing WiFi speeds and 3G speeds at various locations. Do you know what WiFi is? It is independent of your carrier's network and depending on your 3G speeds (actually, probably not right now due to ****ty network speeds on Sprint) that a local WiFi connection will always be a lot faster.
Basically what I got from you is that your WiFi is faster than your 3G. I would say, duh.
I'm having so many issues, I've escalated to a Director level and the ***** Kathy Ortega won't do ****... **** SPRINT!
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Well with this added information, you seem to be comparing WiFi speeds and 3G speeds at various locations. Do you know what WiFi is? It is independent of your carrier's network and depending on your 3G speeds (actually, probably not right now due to ****ty network speeds on Sprint) that a local WiFi connection will always be a lot faster.
Basically what I got from you is that your WiFi is faster than your 3G. I would say, duh.
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I Understand All That man... But Usually my Wifi speed Isn't Light Years Faster then 3G but Lately it Is! I keep seeing commercials about companies Slowing Down Speeds I'm Wondering if that could be the case?
There are a few threads about really slow 3g speeds. So I wouldn't say its just you.
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I've already done the APN fix on these forums, and even with that I've seen no change. I average anywhere from 1.0-2.0 mbps on speedtest. Highest I've seen is 3.8mbps. That's a far cry from 7+.
With my old Infuse 4g in the same areas I've averaged about 5-7 mbps which makes a big difference, so I'm inclined to think something is wrong versus just bad luck.
Also, what gives with even 5-7, shouldn't H+ be hitting 10ish? Looking at the "4g" coverage map for AT&T, I'm smack in the middle of a fast area. I live in central NJ.
Any ideas guys? Thanks.
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I've already done the APN fix on these forums, and even with that I've seen no change. I average anywhere from 1.0-2.0 mbps on speedtest. Highest I've seen is 3.8mbps. That's a far cry from 7+.
With my old Infuse 4g in the same areas I've averaged about 5-7 mbps which makes a big difference, so I'm inclined to think something is wrong versus just bad luck.
Also, what gives with even 5-7, shouldn't H+ be hitting 10ish? Looking at the "4g" coverage map for AT&T, I'm smack in the middle of a fast area. I live in central NJ.
Any ideas guys? Thanks.
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Which APN are you on? 'phone' or 'wap.cingular'?
I'm grandfathered on one of the old accounts with 'unlimited' data.. and and I have to use wap.cingular..
I assure you, you aren't alone in this gripe.
If I didn't know any better I would call foul on AT&T. When my phone was new, I got anywhere from 1-6.5 at the highest, averaging around 3.5 maybe 4. It seems like as soon as I changed my plan to the 4G unlimited, my speeds refuse to go above 2.
I tries a SIM swap, the usual "fixes" and they even reset the data plan. No change. I haven't got higher than 2mb since June. And they swear up and down they aren't throttling me.
It would be nice if someone could explain this whole data deal.
Have you noticed though that performance doesn't seem slow at all though. My connection, even when streaming video doesn't so much as hiccup.
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They might be expecting an influx of SGS2 on their network in the coming weeks and might be trying to discourage excessive data usage and as with any new phone, people tend to download heavily with all the new apps and syncing.
There really shouldn't be any reason for such a big difference in speeds. Highly unlikely the phone itself is faulty as build quality is superb, but might be worth swapping for a new one just to rule it out. If that doesn't fix it, then ATT is must be doing something on their end to specifically limit the speeds of specific types of devices and that shady stuff doesn't surprise me.
Try different modems, as I have noticed a huge difference in speed, from Down/Up 50Kbps/200Kbps (odd) to 400Kbps/215Kbps depending on modem version and congestion, I think my local tower has crappy backhaul as well.
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By the way, I also average faster speeds with wap.cingular than the phone APN fix.
How is that possible, as that is directly opposite what MANY on here report?
So I usually check the news in the morning and today (day before the announcement) I noticed that the web pages were loading super fast so I did Speed test and I'm getting crazy 2mbps/d and 1.3mbps/u! I'm usually in the 200kbps/140kbps. I figure that they're testing out beforehand to make sure its running well. What are you guys getting?
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287k down, 142k up. Central PA. But if I remember, NYC was @ the same. My 4G in NYC was like 9M down and 3M up? Cannot remember. My phone USUALLY flys as it is on 3G and I never really think about it.
It would be nice, I have never seen 3G speeds on any CDMA network in my area above 500k - including Verizon, I actually see better more consistent speeds with Sprint than VZW.
I have my doubts though, living in the sticks really does have advantages, but stuff like this sucks.
I just did the speed test and on 3g i got 2.34mbps down and .64 mbps up. Those are pretty standard numbers for me. I do have an airave at home so don' know if that is making a difference.
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287k down, 142k up. Central PA. But if I remember, NYC was @ the same. My 4G in NYC was like 9M down and 3M up? Cannot remember. My phone USUALLY flys as it is on 3G and I never really think about it.
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My bad, I did not have my glasses on. 2.8Md/1.4Mu (missed some zeros). All Networks are improving 3G (the currently majority of their base model phones) by using different forms of compression for greater speeds. Oh well..........
I lost 3g data connectivity entirely today. I have full bars like I usually do but can't get any data through.
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I lost 3g data connectivity entirely today. I have full bars like I usually do but can't get any data through.
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My data connection is suddenly being very intermittent, too.
I'll try updating my PRL and Profile.... See if that helps at all.
My websurfing is flaky as heck, my Google Talk connection keeps going in and out (and taking a long time to re-login) and I can't seem to update the Android market.
I had just run the "supercharger v6" script, but that shouldn't affect my data connection.... right????
Well let's hope for the best. I'm getting full bars everywhere in Anaheim, CA and speed is constant. I just watched my first youtube video without a single hiccup on 3G
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So I usually check the news in the morning and today (day before the announcement) I noticed that the web pages were loading super fast so I did Speed test and I'm getting crazy 2mbps/d and 1.3mbps/u! I'm usually in the 200kbps/140kbps. I figure that they're testing out beforehand to make sure its running well. What are you guys getting?
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I have also noticed improvements in 3g speed from ohio to texas, been testing at points from columbus to dallas fort worth, have seen 2 meg speeds in fort worth and consistently higher speeds overall.
My guess is with the onset of the IPHONE on sprint, sprint has had to get their 3g act together as the IPHONE does not support LTE or WIMAX it is solely 3g so they cannot afford to continue to piss people off with poor 3g performance. I am now seeing the high speeds I used to see before the smartphones came along with my sanyo mm 9000.
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I have also noticed improvements in 3g speed from ohio to texas, been testing at points from columbus to dallas fort worth, have seen 2 meg speeds in fort worth and consistently higher speeds overall.
My guess is with the onset of the IPHONE on sprint, sprint has had to get their 3g act together as the IPHONE does not support LTE or WIMAX it is solely 3g so they cannot afford to continue to piss people off with poor 3g performance. I am now seeing the high speeds I used to see before the smartphones came along with my sanyo mm 9000.
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3g in my house is usually ~1mb down / 700kb up or so..
Just did a test - 300kb down / 500kb up. This is in the suburbs of san francisco..
(I think we're feeling the iphone saturation..)
I used to get ~1mbps down but in the least three months I've only been getting 30-150 kbps down and 30 kbps up. Totally unusable.
I was wondering if on an unrooted phone can you tell your phone to use 1x instead of 3g because the speeds may be better due to a stronger signal?
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I was wondering if on an unrooted phone can you tell your phone to use 1x instead of 3g because the speeds may be better due to a stronger signal?
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Ok I will bite, how slow is your 3G? Even if your 3G is very slow it is still highly unlikely that you would get 1xrtt that is faster than your 3G speed. 1xrtt is very slow. It peaks just shy of 20Kb/s, but real world speeds are likely to be more like 7.5-13Kb/s.
If you are unhappy with your 3G speed you could setup one of the custom PRLs to allow you to roam on Verizon's 3G towers. They are way better, and way faster than sprint in nearly every region.
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Ok I will bite, how slow is your 3G? Even if your 3G is very slow it is still highly unlikely that you would get 1xrtt that is faster than your 3G speed. 1xrtt is very slow. It peaks just shy of 20Kb/s, but real world speeds are likely to be more like 7.5-13Kb/s.
If you are unhappy with your 3G speed you could setup one of the custom PRLs to allow you to roam on Verizon's 3G towers. They are way better, and way faster than sprint in nearly every region.
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In my area my 3g speeds is about 5 kB/s. 1x is definitely faster.
One option is to use wifi at your house as I am sure 95% of home ISPs are much faster than 1x and possibly 3g.
Outside of your house you may want to use 1x or the Verizon prls but be careful, you roam too much and Sprint will cancel your line(s).
I think I might take DJ's angle on this... there are rare occasions where I have the weakest signal available too and 3g just won't do anything. Nothing will load, yet it acts as if there is signal. I wouldn't mind seeing if 1x would do something in these instances - would be better than being at a stand-still.
However, flipping this around... I have noticed that when I do get bumped to 1x while I'm doing something on the web (streaming music, navigation, etc), it stays in 1x until I'm done using data - even in areas I know I normally would get strong 3g speeds. Is this just a limitation where switching or even scanning for 3g would drop whatever data stream there is and not be able to pick up where it is or just have to restart?
You guys having 3G speeds that are as slow as you describe are likely not experiencing slow 3G, but actually only connected to 1xrtt. Sprint for some reason has the ability to tell our phones they are connected to 3G, but if you run a diagnostic it will tell you that you are in fact connected to 1rxtt not evdo-a. So apparently they can spoof the 3G icon to show up. Total BS. So that honestly sounds like what is happening.
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Ok I will bite, how slow is your 3G? Even if your 3G is very slow it is still highly unlikely that you would get 1xrtt that is faster than your 3G speed. 1xrtt is very slow. It peaks just shy of 20Kb/s, but real world speeds are likely to be more like 7.5-13Kb/s
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False, unless you're referencing kilobytes and not kilobits, in which case when you refer to kilobytes, you capitalize the B. Uppercase B = byte, lowercase b = bit. Real world 1xRTT bandwidth should peak around 140ish kbps (averages probably below 100). I've seen 80+ myself a number of times. The important thing to keep in mind about 1xRTT is you don't even have to fully saturate your bandwidth before the latency skyrockets.
However, I will agree that even if your 3G is slow, it's still probably faster and more responsive than a good 1xRTT signal.
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If you are unhappy with your 3G speed you could setup one of the custom PRLs to allow you to roam on Verizon's 3G towers. They are way better, and way faster than sprint in nearly every region.
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If you are going to give this bad advice out, put a disclaimer on it stating that force roaming to Verizon could get your account cancelled.
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If you are going to give this bad advice out, put a disclaimer on it stating that force roaming to Verizon could get your account cancelled.
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Had I provided the link or the method to do it there would have been a disclaimer about that possibility for my own liability. However as these people all signed contracts they would know that already. Unless you are an idiot and don't read every last bit of every term and condition before signing, or don't understand what you read. Now if that is the case they have far more problems than any trouble I could get them into. I would be courteous and issue a reminder before providing the method, but as far as you trying to shift responsibility on to me, I think it is a load of horse ****. No person has any business signing a contract they haven't read or haven't understood. So "my bad advice" from your perspective is really a moot point. That's great that you don't agree with the method, you have your reasons I'm sure, but I personally have unlimited roaming, that's something I pay for. I've read my contract and I stay within the confines of those terms. If these people read their's I'm sure they will too.
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False, unless you're referencing kilobytes and not kilobits, in which case when you refer to kilobytes, you capitalize the B. Uppercase B = byte, lowercase b = bit. Real world 1xRTT bandwidth should peak around 140ish kbps (averages probably below 100). I've seen 80+ myself a number of times. The important thing to keep in mind about 1xRTT is you don't even have to fully saturate your bandwidth before the latency skyrockets.
However, I will agree that even if your 3G is slow, it's still probably faster and more responsive than a good 1xRTT signal.
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As you can see I used capital K. I was responding on my phone and didn't notice the b was left lower case. If you do the math on the kbits you sourced you are in the range I posted.
I was getting consistently under 50 on speed tests in the auditorium I was in. It was 3g from the speed tests and the rooted phone next to me. I have a Verizon Orlando 11115 but i can't force roam I tried to buy roam control but its not in the market I have the app but no license. I see 1x around 100-120 a lot so I was thinking that would be a lot more usable than 19. I was just wondering if there is a way to turn off 3g but leave on mobile data which would be the 1x.
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You guys having 3G speeds that are as slow as you describe are likely not experiencing slow 3G, but actually only connected to 1xrtt. Sprint for some reason has the ability to tell our phones they are connected to 3G, but if you run a diagnostic it will tell you that you are in fact connected to 1rxtt not evdo-a. So apparently they can spoof the 3G icon to show up. Total BS. So that honestly sounds like what is happening.
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Maybe, but I thought that was an issue on stock rom?
Most custom toms will show 1x when you are on 1x.
right we were talking about the stock unrooted. This is not that big an issue for me as roam control is back in the market and my phone crashed so I decided to go ahead and root htc way.
I just got around to downloading the speed test app to see how fast me x2 is and after the first test here is what I got:
Ping:19ms
Down:4989kbps
Up:703kbps
Now I dont know much but something tells me that up speed is a little low.
Im on cm7 with the Mash up script and wifi on.
Will the numbers be different if Im on 3G? Are these numbers even remotely good?
Many thanks to all!!
Apps aren't always accurate. I'm not sure what you meant will it be different if I'm on 3G? Wifi and 3G will always differ, wifi is much faster depending on your provider, where 3g can lag at times
On 3g I usually hit 3d and 1 up
Where wifi I'm like 25 down 8 up out there about.
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Your ping time and up/down speeds can vary even when connected to the same tower or wifi network depending the congestion at any given time on the bandwidth provider's network, among other factors.
Your seemingly low upload speed could be attributed to other devices on the wifi network using the upload bandwidth allotted by the isp at the time you performed the speed test. It may also be the case the connection supplying the wifi network is 6Mbps down/1Mbps up. Your upload and download speeds while on wifi can only be as good as the connection from the isp regardless of the settings on your device or how many other devices are on the network.
For what it's worth, I have a Verizon 3G Network Extender plugged into my wireless router, meaning that both my WiFi and the Network Extender can only supply a connection that at best is only as fast as my cable modem's connection to Comcast. Eliminating all conflicting variables (e.g. no other devices on the network when running tests), my Droid X2's 3G upload and download speeds are consistently slower than when I'm on wifi.
19ms is a pretty good ping time, btw.
Lots of useful info. Thanks guys!
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I have also been curious and suspicious of my 3g data speeds. When I was stock and rooted with 2.3.4 I would get on average 20-30 kilobytes/sec in my house with a poorer signnal of -87dbm this is using speed test and checking the down up speeds with the mobile network app that puts the speeds up on the notification bar. I used that to monitor downloads and web browsing speeds which agreed well with speed test. In a good coverage area -67dbm I achieved pretty consistently 130-230 kilobytes/sec. I am now running eclipse 2.0.4 with CMDA build.prop edit to increase 3g speeds. I ve only noticed a doubling of speed when in -87dbma area nut otherwise I cannot achieve anyhigher than 300 kilobytes/sec. I wonder could my radio be weak or bad? I thought 3g speeds would but up to ~500 or greater in really good coverage areas.
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I have also been curious and suspicious of my 3g data speeds. When I was stock and rooted with 2.3.4 I would get on average 20-30 kilobytes/sec in my house with a poorer signnal of -87dbm this is using speed test and checking the down up speeds with the mobile network app that puts the speeds up on the notification bar. I used that to monitor downloads and web browsing speeds which agreed well with speed test. In a good coverage area -67dbm I achieved pretty consistently 130-230 kilobytes/sec. I am now running eclipse 2.0.4 with CMDA build.prop edit to increase 3g speeds. I ve only noticed a doubling of speed when in -87dbma area nut otherwise I cannot achieve anyhigher than 300 kilobytes/sec. I wonder could my radio be weak or bad? I thought 3g speeds would but up to ~500 or greater in really good coverage areas.
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I never considered radio quality when I looked at my speeds. Exactly how one would go about checking ones radio quality is far beyond me. Its definitely something worth exploring (in my opinion)
Right I would also need to test other 3g speeds on a different phone on the same networko in the same area to rule out network end probs. Plus I got my DROID x2 used so that might be it there. Also if the radio heats up from persistent use that might reduce efficiency and lower speeds.
Those are fairly decent speeds. For a mobile device, that's about what I would expect. Your ping, 19ms, means that it takes .019 second to reach from your device to the Verizon servers, then to the servers of the sites you are accessing, and then finally back to your phone. Anything less than 80ms is considered good, so you have an excellent ping.
And to clarify, your upload speed will never be as high as your download speed. It's a throttling mechanism used by all (and I do mean all) internet providers of any kind to prevent things like hogging their bandwidth with torrents and the like. It's essentially an industry standard.
so sprint has always been kinda sluggish near me with my evo 4g. i would think my 3g speeds would get a little faster on the 4g lte. i ran about 10 tests and the max i got was..
278 download
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but that was kinda a random spike in it because all the other test are like 100 download and 100 up
I'm getting about 60 down/up, although I was on my og evo too...
It'll be nice once we get the 3g tweaks in roms
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For me it was just the tower closest to my house that sucks. At work I am getting 1800/900
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For me it was just the tower closest to my house that sucks. At work I am getting 1800/900
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Mine is that way as well close to home speeds suck at work they are good lol. either place doesn't matter to much as both have WiFi but it sucks when I'm driving around soon tho soon all will be better....
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so sprint has always been kinda sluggish near me with my evo 4g. i would think my 3g speeds would get a little faster on the 4g lte. i ran about 10 tests and the max i got was..
278 download
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but that was kinda a random spike in it because all the other test are like 100 download and 100 up
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If the network is ****ty why would the phone change that?
Just saying.
I pre-ordered from wirefly but since i'm not scheduled to have LTE until later this year I'm debating if I should cancel my order since I would be stuck with only 3G speeds which suck in most places on Sprint. We need roam only like never before.
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If the network is ****ty why would the phone change that?
Just saying.
I pre-ordered from wirefly but since i'm not scheduled to have LTE until later this year I'm debating if I should cancel my order since I would be stuck with only 3G speeds which suck in most places on Sprint. We need roam only like never before.
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That's what we are trying to figure out. There are people saying the new evo has better 3g speeds maybe due to a new antenna design or something. The phone named after a fruit is supposed to do better on sprints junky 3g network also. ( i don't wish to called a troll). Think about it, on certain types of other devices,a better antenna can make difference. Can this help on a phone also? I just use a phone and am not an engineer.
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That's what we are trying to figure out. There are people saying the new evo has better 3g speeds maybe due to a new antenna design or something. The phone named after a fruit is supposed to do better on sprints junky 3g network also. ( i don't wish to called a troll). Think about it, on certain types of other devices,a better antenna can make difference. Can this help on a phone also? I just use a phone and am not an engineer.
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Me either, just common sense.
While a better antenna may help I wouldn't expect to see drastic improvements.
Sprint 3G is just plain crap right now, in most locations anyway.
Surprisingly at work I get over 2megs down sometimes, nowhere else though.
I am getting slightly better speeds than my EVO3D when using speed test, web sites and other pieces open much quicker though although I think that is a combination of things including just being a more powerful phone.
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I am getting slightly better speeds than my EVO3D when using speed test, web sites and other pieces open much quicker though although I think that is a combination of things including just being a more powerful phone.
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My point exactly. I got slightly better speeds with the Photon over the Evo 3D but it seems some people are expecting to see dramatic improvements.
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I am getting slightly better speeds than my EVO3D when using speed test, web sites and other pieces open much quicker though although I think that is a combination of things including just being a more powerful phone.
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I am seeing the same.
Yeah, in Louisville KY Sprint's service is seriously abysmal. Our city is large and relatively spread out, and the towers that are here are just totally overloaded. Data speeds are slow,coverage is unreliable, connections are frequently dropped. This has literally been happening for years now, and it has only gotten worse.
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Yeah, in Louisville KY Sprint's service is seriously abysmal. Our city is large and relatively spread out, and the towers that are here are just totally overloaded. Data speeds are slow,coverage is unreliable, connections are frequently dropped. This has literally been happening for years now, and it has only gotten worse.
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As much as I hate to say this..here in North Houston, the speeds are BAD. I would also be remiss if I didn't mention that I'd never gotten as many dropped or failed 3G connections on my OG Evo as I'm getting with this phone. Could be b/c NV is working itself out..but it's quite frustrating to watch the 3G signal keep disappearing and reappearing.
Because of that, I started fiddling with some old settings and found a way to boost SIGNAL strength but not 3G speeds..see link below and hopefully someone can figure something out..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26549367#post26549367
I was searching the forums for info on this... but I feel my EVO got slower after I rooted it...
I don't remember experiencing this when I rooted my first EVO (non lte).
Anyone else seen this?
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I was searching the forums for info on this... but I feel my EVO got slower after I rooted it...
I don't remember experiencing this when I rooted my first EVO (non lte).
Anyone else seen this?
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to be honest rooting your phone has nothing to do with your 3g connection ect... it dont efect it in anyway..
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That's what we are trying to figure out. There are people saying the new evo has better 3g speeds maybe due to a new antenna design or something. The phone named after a fruit is supposed to do better on sprints junky 3g network also. ( i don't wish to called a troll). Think about it, on certain types of other devices,a better antenna can make difference. Can this help on a phone also? I just use a phone and am not an engineer.
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The phone with the fruit doesn't have faster 3G speeds. It does have a higher priority on Sprint's cell sites, so if a router has a lot of traffic, the fruit phone gets higher priority, so it seems like their antenna is working better, but in reality it's not that much different.
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The phone with the fruit doesn't have faster 3G speeds. It does have a higher priority on Sprint's cell sites, so if a router has a lot of traffic, the fruit phone gets higher priority, so it seems like their antenna is working better, but in reality it's not that much different.
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That is not even remotely true. If you feel the need to argue it, throw written proof in your reply.