Hi,
My HTC Raphael is starting to have some hardware problems (again), and I'm considering a new phone.
Since I like the smaller phones, but somehow also the hardware keyboard (not necessary full qwerty), I was looking at the X10 min pro (don't want to spend a lot of money this time). Only downside that I see is the lower screen resolution. Android is an enormous plus (if 2.2 or higher I guess).
Anyone knows of a similar device?
TIA
If your buying a new phone, and you like this one. I suggest you take the new Xperia Mini Pro. Frankly this device is nearing the end of its effective life cycle (to me) Im saving up for a Xperia Mini pro or xperia Ray
angelofhope said:
Hi,
My HTC Raphael is starting to have some hardware problems (again), and I'm considering a new phone.
Since I like the smaller phones, but somehow also the hardware keyboard (not necessary full qwerty), I was looking at the X10 min pro (don't want to spend a lot of money this time). Only downside that I see is the lower screen resolution. Android is an enormous plus (if 2.2 or higher I guess).
Anyone knows of a similar device?
TIA
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Motorola defy its quite small considering the size of the screen and its shock dust and water resistant
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if u dont want a big size mobile u have to life with this small resolution.. the flipout has similar hardware and similar screen but same resolution
try new min pro. or see the new htc chacha or samsung pro. but check out new mini pro. only phone with good specs nd affordable price!
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I am considering purchasing a SE X10 (unlocked market) since I read the Gingerbread announcement.
Seems to be the cheapest GHz Android phone on the market. How does this stack up vs the HTC Desire? I would wait for the new wave of Xperia phones but I cannot see them anywhere close the the price of the X10. I read a rumour that the Neo was going to be below in the 300 - 400 range.
What are the pros and cons of the X10? I want a decent camera, good screen, and relatively fast cpu. I came from a Wildfire so this will be a big step up. Lack of radio and no wifi N does not matter to me.
nicksti said:
I am considering purchasing a SE X10 (unlocked market) since I read the Gingerbread announcement.
Seems to be the cheapest GHz Android phone on the market. How does this stack up vs the HTC Desire? I would wait for the new wave of Xperia phones but I cannot see them anywhere close the the price of the X10. I read a rumour that the Neo was going to be below in the 300 - 400 range.
What are the pros and cons of the X10? I want a decent camera, good screen, and relatively fast cpu. I came from a Wildfire so this will be a big step up. Lack of radio and no wifi N does not matter to me.
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Well, depends where you're from, here in UK, the Neo is about £370 from SE-Store.
However, the X10i is not bad at all, from my experience with the Desire I can say it's much better ( though the Desire was running 2.2 ) but it's all about personal preferences.
Stock X10i with 2.1 vs Stock Desire 2.2, the Desire would win due to the JIT and 2.2 enhancements. But if you are thinking of adding mods and ROMs, I think X10i can stand up against the Desire.
Camera is better in X10i, but keep in mind when 2.3 is released for the X10 it will have an android stock camera instead of Sony Ericsson's, but it'll do fine...
Now if you can afford the Neo, I would advice you to go with it.
imo the desire is a much better phone....
I have used both, and I think the desire is wayyyy better.
The only thing the x10 has that is better is the camera. The desire gets better scores, you can mod it wayyyy more, it has true multitouch, the screen has 16 mill colours so it looks much better, etc....
Go with the desire my friend
The Only Draw back of X10i for me is low volume Speakers (both, earphone and speaker phone)
if you don't care about it, X10i is the master piece !
desire have some good points but it have terrible battery life!
I thought the X10 has multi touch?
Things that are important to me:
1. Price
2. Battery life
3. Good performance
4. Good camera
5. Updated Android (or moddable if not)
The Desire is nice, but it is more expensive.
nicksti said:
I thought the X10 has multi touch?
Things that are important to me:
1. Price
2. Battery life
3. Good performance
4. Good camera
5. Updated Android (or moddable if not)
The Desire is nice, but it is more expensive.
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weird here they are around the same price....
The battery life is probably about exactly the same
There is no multitouch on the x10. There is dual touch, but it functions pretty poorly on games, etc... (if you cross axis it goes all haywire)
The performance is on par with one another. However because desire has unlocked bootloader, you can tweak it much more and get much better performance.
The x10 has a much better camera, no doubt about it.
As far as the update, because of the bootloader it would be easier to get updates on the desire. The x10 has 2.3 coming, but not until quarter3 or 4 of this year. The roms around here for the x20 (gingerbread wise) aren't fully functional and still have a lot of issues.
X10 gets 2.3.3 Q2/Q3...
X10 2.3 vs Desire 2.3 will be a nice battle.
One of my mates has a Desire, can't wait to battle him ^^
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best of luck with buying xperia phones...
just google for "red light of death" for xperia phones....
unless you are okay with sending your phone to customer service every now and then...
i bought one and i'm regretting to the core....
no solutions given either by sonyericsson or can't find any on XDA...
I have been using the mini pro now for almost a year. Last week while browsing the net for a cheap contract deal for a relative, I found a very cheap deal for a refurbished x10 which I got. Been using it now With the official SE 2.1 firmware for a few days. All in all, I am quite happy with it. The fact it will get gingerbread soon makes it even better. My experience with it shows me that you can't really have a good smartphone experience (let alone a good android experience) with the minis. The screen size really lets down what could have been a true if somewhat humble champion. I believe a 3 inch screen should be the very minimum for a smartphone that's meant for web browsing, emailing, and running apps. SE made a mistake (one of many in what was a very poorly judged 2010) which they have rectified with the new mini range.
Don't get me wrong, I am sure there are a lot of folks out there who get a lot of joy from their minis. For me personally having used the x10 for a while, the minis just don't give a very good smartphone experience.
Share your thoughts.
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I love my mini pro but I will love to try out different android phones like the xperia play since I'm a playstation fan all the way!!!
I might stay with my mini pro and I'm going to save money to buy a tablet or a new phone if my mini pro dies hehe (I hope it doesn't happen soon)
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Zodiac, i couldn't agree more! I love my mini (not even pro), but the screen is really to small for sucha good and complete device.
My partner has an SE Arc and from the first time i touched it i was jealous, not only for the specs and speed (my lill mini on miniCM6 keeps up in performance amazingly well....lol...), but the screen looks and works so freaking awesome. I decided instantly i 'need' one too!
On the other hand, since the mini was my first android device, parting from it will be a bit hard, how weird can one be huhh......
Well, you are right about the tiny screen. It is like looking at the internet through a keyhole. My experience is that internet browsing becomes enjoyable at 4 inches and above. My previous phone was an HTC HD2 which in the last few months I used with a Gingerbread nand rom and fell in love with android. And the HD2 was quite a good piece of hardware. But...I dont regret changing for the mini pro. I find that the mini pro's camera is better and also sound quality is better than that of the HD2. I also love the hardware keyboard which I use heavily. Currently Im using the mini pro with the stock SE rom - rooted and with xrec and removed bloatware. Cant really make up my mind about going to a custom rom because I am afraid of loosing camera quality.
All in all the mini pro is a lovely thing. The only thing that really gets on my nerves is the poor battery life.
Soon will be released Xperia Mini with 3" display, and other upgrades. I had my last phone (W810) for 4.5 years. Now the X10 mini will last probably a few more months.
The minis would have been perfect (if such a thing exists) with a 3 inch screen and at the very least HVGA and not QVGA which limits the apps you can download. I mean how stupid is that.
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I find that the mini pro's camera is better and also sound quality is better than that of the HD2.
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Believe it or not, the mini sound quality is way better then from SE Arc too (when not connected to headphone i mean), but i can't beat the Arc camera though
hi its my first android handset from 2003 , i'm sony ericsson pocessor, in two months back i had vivaz U5i but i loved my X10 mini now with its functionality it's a good phone for me only SE wont upgrade to gingerbread (android 2.3) and i love stock menu's and functionality.
the dialer , the home screen , its icons , i search for anyone has ported any thing from stock rom to MINI CM6 or 7
I had been a Windows Mobile user for the last 5 or so years, but I wanted a change to the "future", to an Android phone, but I didn't want to go all out on a phone I could end up not liking, so last October I went with an x10 Mini Pro, not only is it a cheap device, but it packs quite a punch for it's size, there's pretty much almost nothing I couldn't do on this little one besides flash sites (skyfire with vid plugin solved it), and play a couple of games, (PvZ for eg, all others seem fine, even fps games).
All I can say is that this device gave me such a good impression and introduction to the Android platform that I'm waiting for a SGSII to arrive this week, as this shortie did it's job, for 139€, no contract, I can't really complain of any of the features, and while the screen might be small, well, it's a Mini version so I expected the short screen.
Hello guys!
I currently have the LG optimus one, and am looking to buy a new phone. Im torn apart between the SE xperia mini pro and the Moto Defy
Pls help me decide
On one hand theres the big screen on the defy and on the other theres the hw keypad and the 1Ghz procy :|
Any personal experiences?
guru_urug said:
Hello guys!
I currently have the LG optimus one, and am looking to buy a new phone. Im torn apart between the SE xperia mini pro and the Moto Defy
Pls help me decide
On one hand theres the big screen on the defy and on the other theres the hw keypad and the 1Ghz procy :|
Any personal experiences?
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Its basically whether you need the bigger screen or the keyboard. Processor should be similar, both can be overclocked to your liking. If you want both, how about something like the Desire Z?
the mini pro has a known issue of noise when recording video although Sony has said they will fix it in the next update (which should be any day now).
Me i like the small unique form factor rather than the ordinary 4" slab.
barrist said:
Its basically whether you need the bigger screen or the keyboard. Processor should be similar, both can be overclocked to your liking. If you want both, how about something like the Desire Z?
the mini pro has a known issue of noise when recording video although Sony has said they will fix it in the next update (which should be any day now).
Me i like the small unique form factor rather than the ordinary 4" slab.
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Yeah, I think one should only go for any of the mini's if one likes the small form factor. It's why I went for one too.
Otherwise, I think I'd have gone for a Ray or simply stuck with my Optimus One (which is a very good phone by itself, even if it's stuck with a measly 600MHz ARMv6 processor.
The Desire Z, jeez. I had one Terribly slow, unfortunately.
I'd say yes, the mini pro is definitely a recommendation.
You can play all games with the keyboard, which is pretty damn awesome
The phone itself is really smooth and never lags or hangs.
The Mini Pro has a big disadvantage: the reception. It really sucks compared to my old N82 so make sure the area where you're going to use the phone has a very good coverage otherwise the battery life will be really short.
Check my previous posts for more info
kiavik said:
The Mini Pro has a big disadvantage: the reception. It really sucks compared to my old N82 so make sure the area where you're going to use the phone has a very good coverage otherwise the battery life will be really short.
Check my previous posts for more info
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I haven't really had any reception problems yet, but the phone consistently shows far less (!) bars than my previous phones. It may be more a case of what the OS reports, than terrible reception per se.
However, I've noticed that the phone switches back to Edge far more often than my Optimus One (which sometimes did nothing at all until I clicked a link for a second time; probably because it kept trying to find the 3G network). If this keeps the user experience more consistent/fluid, I don't have a problem with it.
Same, no problems with the reception here.
I'm living in an average sized town in germany, nowhere near the inner city and always getting atleast 3/4 bars. It really depends on where you live and how good your carrier is
Mentioning Moto Defy tells me you are confused even about form factor. First decide, what you are, Type-er or Touch-er. If Type-er go with Mini Pro and if Touch-er then you have much better choices to go with than Defy.
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Mentioning Moto Defy tells me you are confused even about form factor. First decide, what you are, Type-er or Touch-er. If Type-er go with Mini Pro and if Touch-er then you have much better choices to go with than Defy.
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maybe those are the options between which he can choose if he wants a free phone on his contract? EDIT: anyway, since he's posting here, he clearly wants to be persuaded that the mini pro is the phone for him
i dont even think the screen is too small :O it's a perfectly sized smartphone for your pants pocket
Yeahh, i bought Mini 1 month ago, this's great even though it is considered to be not really manly ) However, i love the way to onw something that's "small" but "powerful"
So, highly recommend
Yes this phone is deceptive because it may seem like an entry level phone, it has the same internal specs as the other more "high end" phones in SE's lineup. That coupled with the fact that the processor only has to power a 3" screen as opposed to a 4" screen means it should in theory be better performing.
my only small thing is the battery (maybe its an android thing in general) is fairly weak imo. I'm waiting for a third party 1600mah battery to arrive and hopefully it'll improve.
it's really powerful yeah. all the emulators run so damn smooth.
the battery is indeed an issue. i bought myself another stock battery and a charging station. I never need to charge the phone itself
Hey. My previous phone was Optimus One, I sold it and bought the xperia mini pro and never regrets it.
Remember the optimus one issues? Multitouch problem, lag when hold screen, worse battery life than xperia mini pro, 3mp camera w no flash, video recording is pretty low and not HD, lag when playing bigger HD games.
Well none of the above happens on the xperia mini pro. So just sell your optimus one and buy the mini pro just like me. Youll like it
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dryhte said:
I haven't really had any reception problems yet, but the phone consistently shows far less (!) bars than my previous phones. It may be more a case of what the OS reports, than terrible reception per se.
However, I've noticed that the phone switches back to Edge far more often than my Optimus One (which sometimes did nothing at all until I clicked a link for a second time; probably because it kept trying to find the 3G network). If this keeps the user experience more consistent/fluid, I don't have a problem with it.
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Well the dfference I have noticed is quite big: while the N82 shows full strength signal the Mini Pro shows no bar and it even drops the signal if hold it with my hand instead of 2 fingers. Both phones have a SIM from 3 wich is an operator that only uses 3G networks.
It is definitely an operator's coverage related issue because it doesn't happen in my hometown but still it's a sign that the phone's reception is not as good as the N82.
In other forums I have read about people complaining about this issue but only for the Mini Pro, the Mini from what I've read has a better reception.
Izzy Stinson said:
Hey. My previous phone was Optimus One, I sold it and bought the xperia mini pro and never regrets it.
Remember the optimus one issues? Multitouch problem, lag when hold screen, worse battery life than xperia mini pro, 3mp camera w no flash, video recording is pretty low and not HD, lag when playing bigger HD games.
Well none of the above happens on the xperia mini pro. So just sell your optimus one and buy the mini pro just like me. Youll like it
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Yes , The same to me , Just sold O1 is suck when gaming , but Some Dev has fix it already in CFW ...! Now Mini pro is fast far than O1 lolx
If you had to replace your Xperia mini or mini pro, what phone would you go for?
I have been looking at the new Xperia range but they are all too big; Xperia U, GO, solo.
The GO sounds like a good option as it's water and dust proof.
The U has a front camera which is good but no SD card
Both have dual processor but are 110mm in length and heaver than the mini.
The closest thing is the upcoming Miro but only has 800mhz processor.
Does anyone know if Sony are coming up with a mini/mini pro replacement (im not too fussed about hardware keyboard) with dual processor?
Or, do I move to another brand - not that there is anything available in similar size/weight at the moment
what is the reason for replacing your mini/minipro?
if its about me, i want to replace it with SGS2
why?
larger screen, slimmer, good processing power, lots of accessories, removeable battery (compare to xperia s/p/u)
microsd slot, and since the price quite stable in my country, so it indicates this phone is still a star in its class
jakuchu said:
what is the reason for replacing your mini/minipro?
if its about me, i want to replace it with SGS2
why?
larger screen, slimmer, good processing power, lots of accessories, removeable battery (compare to xperia s/p/u)
microsd slot, and since the price quite stable in my country, so it indicates this phone is still a star in its class
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Not looking to replace immediately - but one day , when they get old - so I am just exploring possibilities at the moment
I'd wait with wondering until the moment you'll decide to replace it. you never know how many great phones will be released until then.
Go for Xperia U
At this moment I would get myself a Xperia Neo....
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I like the fact that my MP is small and has the pull-out keyboard. If I had to change right now, I would have either the Pro (the big one) or the SGS3.
The SGS3 isn't particularly unique and the lack of a physical keyboard would be a pain but it'd be nice to have something cutting-edge.
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Not looking to replace immediately - but one day , when they get old - so I am just exploring possibilities at the moment
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well i suggest you know what your need frst and your expectation
if you want to have a bigger screen, my opinion is use 3,7" - 4,3" display, it still comfortable to use with one hand
if you want your phone to have more upcoming update availability probably use minimum of dual-core processor and 1GB of RAM
if a physical keyboard is not a must, well theres plenty of choices out there
lots of new model from sony dont have user replaceable battery, you might consider that if someday the battery broke and need to replaced
well the rest is up to you
hope youll find the most suitable phone for you (as im looking forward too LOL)
Well if had to replace it i will go For :
-Xperia S / Samsung Galaxy SIII
-Neo L
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Xperia U
My bet is on Xperia Mini pro 2
otherwise a relatively cheap handset which would do the job (if not with a qwerty - xperia go)
hello guys, easy question
Are you happy with this phone?
I'm hesitating among several qwerty phones but the lack of development is doing me reluctant to buy any of them.
These are my options.
Anything important problems or issues not solvable i should know about this little device?
I love my mini pro.
I used to have a x10 mini pro, then when SE released the SK17i mini pro I brought one in black, but I dropped that and broke it and replaced it with a white one. I can afford to go buy any phone but I just like my mini pro so much I'm sticking with it.
Only negative point really for some people might be the screen size being a little small for playing games and watching movies.
the keyboard is perfect, I can easily type without looking at the screen. the phone is great for daily usage and some casual games. it can get a bit laggy while surfing on the internet though.
It's a great little phone. You can't really get better for the price.
The xperia pro would be a fine option as well, but it's just plain ugly, and I really think the Mini Pro handles tasks better because of it's lower resolution, which also means something for RAM usage.
BTW you've listed the Relay 4G as one of your options. I'd say go get it. As some member said, it's now officially supported by CM, which is way better than Samsung's Touchwiz.