I am planning to backup the SGSII stock ROM as stock as possible.
I belive there are 2 options to backup the stock ROM.
1. Clockworkmod
2. RomDump
My question is, in Clockworkmod the recovery manager is modified and in RomDump, the application itself is installed and when the ROM backup is done, in both cases will the changes like recovery manager, RomDump app will also be in the back up ?
If so then I belive in addition to rooting, these are also the changes in stock ROM backup and when restored the system will not be as stock. Right ?
Is there anyother method which can take the backup as stock as possible ?
I belive RomDump would be the most nearest to stock ROM. Correct me if I am wrong.
PS: I know we have stock ROMs available for download. But I want to have my phone's version.
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I'm having issues with doing a nandroid backup and restore using current stock roms such as KI3.
I read the boot loader changed here compared to older roms, but I'm not sure that this alone is the issue.
What I did is install a frakenstein stock rom, meaning the whole rom was put together from seperate parts of different versions from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278:
This Frankenstein™ Non-Wipe package has: PDA: XXKI3| Modem/phone: XXKI3| CSC: XEUKD1
Download: http://www.multiupload.com/7JTWS2E37R
Over this I installed the rooted rom from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399: CF-Root-SGS2_XX_OXA_KI3-42-v4.2-CWM4.zip
Just from the rom side of view, so using the phone with it everything was fine.
However now I did a nandroid backup and later a restore since I wanted to try Cyanogen mod 7.1
The restore itself ran through without errors, however I found that almost all .apk files of /data/app were missing, even google apps like gmail and market.
I heared CWM did not go well with the new boot loader so I tried running the restore after applying an older rom (first just the old boot loader) but this did not help.
I then found that the backup itself did not contain the missing apk files, so the backup process itself was not done properly.
To get to a working state again I had to extract the apk files from an older backup and collect the apks that were still missing manually.
After restoring again and then copying the apks using adb push I had the system working again.
Anyway:
It seemes to me that i had the original boot loader applied when doing the nandroid backup, but that was apparently not enough to get it running properly.
Can anyone help in creating a properly working nandroid backup from one of the newer stock roms like KI3 and KI8?
Thanx!
Can anyone help in creating a properly working nandroid backup from one of the newer stock roms like KI3 and KI8?
Standard method works CWM restore+ backup . Should know i have done ten backups and restores on KI3 today no problem
jje
>Can anyone help in creating a properly working nandroid backup from one of the newer stock roms like KI3 and KI8?
You mean so you do not have to use odin to flash a such roms?
I think you can make those yourself. Just do a factory reset, clear all caches and then use odin to flash the rom, and then apply root and go into cwm to create a backup.
You could share that backup with others.
Ofcourase that would not be entirely stock anymore since root and CWM would be included there.
>Standard method works CWM restore+ backup . Should know i have done ten backups and restores on KI3 today no problem
Interesting - so no problems at all with CWM backup and restore based on a KI3 at all? Including custom settings and own apps installed?
Which rom exactly did you flash and how did you apply CWM?
JJEgan said:
Can anyone help in creating a properly working nandroid backup from one of the newer stock roms like KI3 and KI8?
Standard method works CWM restore+ backup . Should know i have done ten backups and restores on KI3 today no problem
jje
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Standard CWM backup/restore works for me too.
I used the same KI3 Frankenstein firmware as you (OP) but KI3-v4.1 of cf-root.
Thanx.
I installed the 4.1 kernel and also to be sure the old boot loader and made a CWM backup the data.img is now 259mb instead of just 100mb so I think now its a proper backup.
Now I can go ahead and properly try out CM 7.1
Hello everyone,
I have SGS2 with latest stock firmware (XWKI4) for my region.
Now, I would like to start playing with it with roms and such (yes, I already have Jig just as safety net), however I would like to creat as close as possible original configuration.
Now, I have rooted the phone with zergRush by Doomlord sucessfully and made efs backup as well as kernel image backup via HC-kTool. (This is kernel image backup right?) This way I presume I got pretty much untouched kernel image except rooting, right?
What now I would like to do is to make ROM backup and install some recovery. I know that Clockwork that comes with Rom Manager isnt exactly the same as Chainfires CW that comes with CF-Root and I know that Chainfires CW is optimized for Samsung phones (not to mention that they are not compatible with each other).
I guess my question would be is above that I did make sense, and shall I install CW from ROM Backup or get some CF-Root kernel with CW? I mean what do I lose with each solution, or any other advice how to complete ROM backup so that I can recover it if something, God forbid(knock on the wood), gets fishy?
Cheers
Kepavi said:
Hello everyone,
I have SGS2 with latest stock firmware (XWKI4) for my region.
Now, I would like to start playing with it with roms and such (yes, I already have Jig just as safety net), however I would like to creat as close as possible original configuration.
Now, I have rooted the phone with zergRush by Doomlord sucessfully and made efs backup as well as kernel image backup via HC-kTool. (This is kernel image backup right?) This way I presume I got pretty much untouched kernel image except rooting, right?
What now I would like to do is to make ROM backup and install some recovery. I know that Clockwork that comes with Rom Manager isnt exactly the same as Chainfires CW that comes with CF-Root and I know that Chainfires CW is optimized for Samsung phones (not to mention that they are not compatible with each other).
I guess my question would be is above that I did make sense, and shall I install CW from ROM Backup or get some CF-Root kernel with CW? I mean what do I lose with each solution, or any other advice how to complete ROM backup so that I can recover it if something, God forbid(knock on the wood), gets fishy?
Cheers
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If you take some time and search different threads in xda developers forum, you will find many user posting statements not to use ROM manager.
As I do not use ROM manager at all, I did not read the whole posts. That's why I do not exactly know, what the issues are about ROM manager.
(Incompatibility with many ROMs and kernels, but there must be more issues.)
I am using CWM Manager app (included in Chainfire's CF-Root kernel) or CWM5 recovery mode to create a complete system / nandroid backup.
So, in case of an emergency I only have to flash a kernel containing CWM5 recovery and restore my last system backup.
Just to be on the "safe" side, I also copied my efs folder to my external sd card.
And all my apps (+ app data) are under Titanium Backup control.
So, I recommend to use plain CWM recovery backup.
If you are not sure about ROM manager, please search the forums and make up your own mind.
Good luck !
So basically, I can instead of Rom Manager install DarkyROM2 Tool, flash some kernel with CWM support e.g. Hellcat, CF-Root, and boot to recovery and make backup of current rom(with higher compatibility), right?
Sorry if this is obvious, but I have just started with this kind of tweaks...
I have just bought an SGS2 to replace my HTC Desire.
I rooted it using SuperOneClick. It seemed to work, I can run apps requiring root now.
But the very first thing I want to do is make a nandroid backup of the phone in it's out of box state (or as close to). Is it possible?
On Desire you had to root first, then install a custom recovery such as CWM, and then do a nandroid backup from there. So I guess I will have to install CWM. But googling tells me that on the SGS2 I have to replace the entire kernel to get a new recovery, is that right? And how do I do that?
If the only way to make a nandroid backup is to install a new kernel, I guess the backup will contain the new kernel. Is it possible to go back to the out of box state with the original kernel and original recovery and no root etc.?
pinkfloydhomer said:
I have just bought an SGS2 to replace my HTC Desire.
I rooted it using SuperOneClick. It seemed to work, I can run apps requiring root now.
But the very first thing I want to do is make a nandroid backup of the phone in it's out of box state (or as close to). Is it possible?
On Desire you had to root first, then install a custom recovery such as CWM, and then do a nandroid backup from there. So I guess I will have to install CWM. But googling tells me that on the SGS2 I have to replace the entire kernel to get a new recovery, is that right? And how do I do that?
If the only way to make a nandroid backup is to install a new kernel, I guess the backup will contain the new kernel. Is it possible to go back to the out of box state with the original kernel and original recovery and no root etc.?
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Just flash any of these and you'll get Super User, Busy Box, CWM, CWM Manager
CF-Root For Stock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14283369#post14283369
Siyah Kernel (Custom)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1263838
Speed Mod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182498
Flash em via Odin and you'll have CWM take a backup and you are good to flash any custom ROM
Just take note what your stock firmware and kernel is and if you ever need to send off to Samsung you can just flash back to stock using intratechs stock rom thread
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Can I backup my stock Rom without a custom recovery? With te original recovery I can do the backup data, but it is enought to back all of it, or not? I want to root my phone but I want to have a copy of my firmware, and I have a chinese phone too, if something happend I want to have a backup of all of it....
As usually, Thanks...
Hello,
So lately I've been have some troubles with my phone and I decided to try and flash with a new ROM and see if that helps.
I've been reading on the forums some of the guides, FAQ, and read about some ROMs but I'm still a bit unsure of the entire process.
Currently using GT-I9300, 4.1.2 OS, stock.
Backup:
1. Do I need to flash a custom recovery tool (CWM/TWRG) to create an image backup? Should I just root with Odin and then use Titanium?
2. Do these backup my EFS partition or should I back that up separately?
3. Do I need to root my phone with Odin to be able to flash custom recovery tool/backup my EFS?
ROM/Kernel flashing:
1. Since I'm a newbie to this and there seems to be a ton of ROM options, could you recommend on a stable CM based 4.3 ROM I could use?
2. I haven't seen a stock 4.4.4 for GT-I9300, is it stable to use?
I'm sorry If I've asked something thousands have asked before, I couldn't find a clear answer in a decent amount of time.
Thanks for the help!
menia3d said:
Hello,
So lately I've been have some troubles with my phone and I decided to try and flash with a new ROM and see if that helps.
I've been reading on the forums some of the guides, FAQ, and read about some ROMs but I'm still a bit unsure of the entire process.
Currently using GT-I9300, 4.1.2 OS, stock.
Backup:
1. Do I need to flash a custom recovery tool (CWM/TWRG) to create an image backup? Should I just root with Odin and then use Titanium?
2. Do these backup my EFS partition or should I back that up separately?
3. Do I need to root my phone with Odin to be able to flash custom recovery tool/backup my EFS?
ROM/Kernel flashing:
1. Since I'm a newbie to this and there seems to be a ton of ROM options, could you recommend on a stable CM based 4.3 ROM I could use?
2. I haven't seen a stock 4.4.4 for GT-I9300, is it stable to use?
I'm sorry If I've asked something thousands have asked before, I couldn't find a clear answer in a decent amount of time.
Thanks for the help!
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Backup
(1) Titanium only backs up apps and data it does not do a full (Nandroid backup Google it) Root with cf autoroot http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1980683 and then flash a custom recovery (choice is yours cwm,Twrp,PhilZ flash with Odin)
(2) Yes some custom recoveries back up efs PhilZ does I think twrp does not sure about cwm ( I don't think it does maybe wrong on that) nandroid backups don't backup your efs do this separately
(3) Technically you don't need root to flash a recovery but if you want to backup anything in recovery then you need to root.You will only need to root your phone once if you are intending to flash custom roms (so that you can backup) because root is included in custom roms.
IMPORTANT! You must backup your efs once you have flashed a custom recovery especially coming from 4.1.2. and keep multiple copies on phone and pc!
Rom/Kernel flashing
(1) We cannot recommend roms it is against XDA rules
(2) Their is no stock 4.4.4 roms last release was 4.3 anything else is a custom/port of 4.4
Thanks for your help, that cleared up a few things.
I ended up using samsung galaxy S3 toolkit (which is amazing btw) to root & load insecure boot image, flash custom recovery img and backup everything on my phone.
I'm now ready to flash my first custom ROM
Again, thanks a bunch