So, I had the Android alpha build on my Touchpad, as well as Preware on the WebOS side with various patches to tweak it to my liking. I left the Touchpad on the Touchstone dock overnight to charge and it ended up doing the OTA on its own in the background.
This messed quite a few things up. The boot menu was gone, and it would boot into WebOS by default. This meant Android was essentially gone. Wifi in WebOS wasn't working reliably, and some of my Preware patches worked, some didn't. I decided to uninstall Android properly and use WebOS Doctor to put the Touchpad back to stock.
I followed the directions from this video to uninstall Android. It worked without any problems. It is simple, and basically doing the exact same thing as the install process with a different file. I then downloaded WebOS Doctor from HP and followed their directions. When it was finished it worked like I wish it had all along. The problem is I can tell some of the Preware patches seem to still be in effect. I can tell this by the fact that my custom tabs for Homebrew and Games are still there, and they were installed via a patch. Most of them seem to be gone or not working anymore. All of my apps installed via sideloaded IPKs are gone, but all the market installed apps were automatically reloaded from backup.
The weird part is that I don't know if this last software update really made the Touchpad that much snappier feeling stock, or the patches for making it that way are still working. I don't remember the stock Touchpad working anywhere near this nicely before I used Preware with it. Has anyone else come across this? I was pleasantly surprised, and might just leave the Touchpad like this!
the last software update definitely made it slicker....i reset mine last night and i could tell the difference from when i had 3.0.2 compared to 3.0.4.
then installed the patches and made it better some more
Yeah, I have to go back and install preware on it again. I definitely miss some of those additions.
Yeah - a few of the preware patches seem messed up now. I had to use WebOS Quick Install to update or remove some of them because they would just keep erroring out after the upgrade.
Other post-3.0.4 weirdness: my Touchstone no longer charges while the case flap is folded back, and i seemingly-randomly get a ton of static when playing music.
ponyboy82 said:
Yeah - a few of the preware patches seem messed up now. I had to use WebOS Quick Install to update or remove some of them because they would just keep erroring out after the upgrade.
Other post-3.0.4 weirdness: my Touchstone no longer charges while the case flap is folded back, and i seemingly-randomly get a ton of static when playing music.
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Yeah I'm getting ready to dr to 3.0.2
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Yeah I'm getting ready to dr to 3.0.2
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Ooh, yeah, I may have to do that. Is it a big deal using the good Dr. to downgrade? I've never used it before. I was pretty happy with 3.0.2. I hope it would fix all the new issues.
There are rumors of a 3.0.5 update too, but who knows. I swear though, the Touchpad is the best-supported discontinued device I've ever seen. I just really hope they can fix the issues that were introduced in 3.0.4.
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Ooh, yeah, I may have to do that. Is it a big deal using the good Dr. to downgrade? I've never used it before. I was pretty happy with 3.0.2. I hope it would fix all the new issues.
There are rumors of a 3.0.5 update too, but who knows. I swear though, the Touchpad is the best-supported discontinued device I've ever seen. I just really hope they can fix the issues that were introduced in 3.0.4.
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Well if you have CM7 + moboot I heard it wont erase those partitions.. not 100% sure, haven't gone through with it.
If there is a 3.0.5 update I might wait for that but I want to get rid of CM7 and moboot and I feel like 3.0.4 is hurting my battery (like damaging it) anyways. I'm starting to like WebOS a lot more than Android. Just needs more free apps.
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Well if you have CM7 + moboot I heard it wont erase those partitions.. not 100% sure, haven't gone through with it.
If there is a 3.0.5 update I might wait for that but I want to get rid of CM7 and moboot and I feel like 3.0.4 is hurting my battery (like damaging it) anyways. I'm starting to like WebOS a lot more than Android. Just needs more free apps.
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I saw a patch in preware that said it's supposed to remove moboot and/or CM7 (I don't have any experience with it). I'm with you on the WebOS love though. It's really only missing all those apps.
ponyboy82 said:
I saw a patch in preware that said it's supposed to remove moboot and/or CM7 (I don't have any experience with it). I'm with you on the WebOS love though. It's really only missing all those apps.
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Thanks! Will peep this tonight! What do you think of 3.04 vs 3.02?
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Thanks! Will peep this tonight! What do you think of 3.04 vs 3.02?
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Do you mean in general? I have to admit, 3.0.2 seemed way more stable for me. Everyone says 3.0.4 performs better, but I guess I don't use it enough to be able to tell (I also had most all of the performance patches and Uberkernel installed on 3.0.2).
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I read somewhere that adding market is causing stability issues. I know my A70 is having some issues, and I never ran it with 2.1 on it so I don't know how it behaved before the update, and I put market on it first thing.
I'm hoping its all just due to a rushed release of 2.2 to appease the masses, and an update is coming soon to help stability. But in the meantime, what are some tips for helping stability?
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I read somewhere that adding market is causing stability issues. I know my A70 is having some issues, and I never ran it with 2.1 on it so I don't know how it behaved before the update, and I put market on it first thing.
I'm hoping its all just due to a rushed release of 2.2 to appease the masses, and an update is coming soon to help stability. But in the meantime, what are some tips for helping stability?
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i was having problems with the 28 and 32.when i restored back to factory it ran perfect
That's unfortunate, there is a couple versions for adding gapps, wonder if one works better than the others.
The most up to date might be gapps4archos v4. kenyu has been working on it and making it work well.
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The most up to date might be gapps4archos v4. kenyu has been working on it and making it work well.
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Its actually called gAppsInstaller_v4, but close enough..
The v4 version fully stable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867303
Uninstalled market and did a factory reset, seems to be behaving better for now. I was using v4 though.
Side loaded all the apps I needed and slideme market, so far so good. Its only been about an hour, so longer testing is needed to be sure.
New MKT Version,
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Its actually called gAppsInstaller_v4, but close enough..
The v4 version fully stable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867303
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Kenyu,
Is there any word on the New Mkt floating around here. Can we install it? Are you going to work on a version for us?
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Kenyu,
Is there any word on the New Mkt floating around here. Can we install it? Are you going to work on a version for us?
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I spent a good portion of the day yesterday playing around with a hot swap of the newer Market, but had no luck.
I even reset and added the newer Market to a fresh install and it worked, but was very unstable. Basically, in order to get a stable version of the Market, we need a specific type/flavor of Vendor.apk which I don't have nor do I know how to find or even what to look for....
It's almost like the gApp files need to be all in sync with each other in order to get a stable Market experience....
Get the file OTA is a different matter... I think that will work OK.
I gave up on the market with my A5 IT... it runs so much better without it(more RAM, less FC's). The only annoying part is when apps have plugins on the market - these are often difficult to find elsewhere. Also some apps will assume you have it installed and can sometimes FC when they look for it and can't find it.
I have not intention of installing it on my gen8 either.
After more testing, its still running good. The shoehorning method of installing market may be causing problems somewhere. I'm not even running a task manager to keep the thing from locking up. Even when switching between several memory intensive apps the free memory would stay around 40mb free at minimum. Seems memory management is working better.
weibo.com/chomper
t.cn/aDdv3E
Getting closer...
Looks okay , But was hoping for more a Honeycomb GUI , as ive just got rid of a 2.3 Tablet to get the HP touch pad to flash to 3.0 but will 3.0 ever happen for the Touch pad ?
The general consensus seems to be that HC will not appear on the TP; as the source code was never released by Google.
What is more likely to happen is that 2.3.5 will be on the initial CM release for the Pad; with ICS being the next logical step, once it's released.
I may be wrong,
But I believe that is the long and short of it.
Hope this helps.
ugh! I would settle for 1.6 just so it is not the ugly webOS cripple.
I actually kind of like WebOS.
The not-having-multiple-screens-to-swipe-left-or-right thing takese a bit of getting used to (I'm not sued to it yet).
But I do like bouncing apps away, to close them.
That being said,
I definitely favor Android over all other O/S.
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i actually kind of like webos.
The not-having-multiple-screens-to-swipe-left-or-right thing takese a bit of getting used to (i'm not sued to it yet).
But i do like bouncing apps away, to close them.
That being said,
i definitely favor android over all other o/s.
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weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!
the fact that it boots properly and shuts down will tie me over until cm7 comes out. even though i cant really do much on this. lol
thanks to OP for finding this, and to the chinese dudes who created this.
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Looks okay , But was hoping for more a Honeycomb GUI , as ive just got rid of a 2.3 Tablet to get the HP touch pad to flash to 3.0 but will 3.0 ever happen for the Touch pad ?
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Nope
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But 4.0 will!!
I tried it, very buggy but does not affect your system so feel free to play
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I am really hoping this progresses fast and works well. I actually enjoy webOS card system but the lack of apps is disappointing. I would much rather be able to run android on a card.
Either way though, I plan on installing android whether it's dual boot or via card.
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weibo.com/chomper
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The preware twitter feed, states that this app installs another kernel and that the un-instal option doesn't remove it.
Be warned!
Fon22
I installed it and it works fine (for what works at least). Anyone know how to actually install another app into it? I downloaded an APK and put it in the apks folder (in webOS) but I don't know where to look for it within chroid. Is this even possible? The guide says you can do it.
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The preware twitter feed, states that this app installs another kernel and that the un-instal option doesn't remove it.
Be warned!
Fon22
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Edit: I just checked back in WebOS and Govnah doesn't show the overclock kernal. Uninstal/Reinstall the stock or overclock kernals doesn't change it. Max Freq. is 1.2 ghz ... uh oh
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I installed it and it works fine (for what works at least). Anyone know how to actually install another app into it? I downloaded an APK and put it in the apks folder (in webOS) but I don't know where to look for it within chroid. Is this even possible? The guide says you can do it.
Edit: I just checked back in WebOS and Govnah doesn't show the overclock kernal. Uninstal/Reinstall the stock or overclock kernals doesn't change it. Max Freq. is 1.2 ghz ... uh oh
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if you want to O/C again, you have to doctor 3.0.2 back on, then redo the preware etc.
as for the apps, put them in that folder and they will auto install, thats what i did, and got titanium installed (even tho its useless/keeps crashing, i had it available)
3.0.3
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When you install chroid, don't go into govnah while its installed, when you uninstall chroid, you should be fine and not have to worry. That way you wont have to doctor all the time
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wow, thanks for quoting me almost line for line from the other thread :/
i figured this out last night after many hours of testing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18270362&postcount=127
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wow, thanks for quoting me almost line for line from the other thread :/
i figured this out last night after many hours of testing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18270362&postcount=127
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My apologies, just trying to help get the word out. I know you spent time on figuring out and did not know if you would post it here. I saw people didn't know, so I thought I'd help. Again, my apologies.
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Hi, i updated my TP to WebOS 3.0.4 just now, and i notice that, after i install preware and the testing feed, i don't see the patches in preware. Anyone has this issue too?
Yes. Patches showed as installed but had no effect on the system. Once uninstalled, they still don't show up in preware.
thanks for the fast reply...
probably have to wait for the new preware update?
New version of os means the patches made for old version do nothing. You can leave them on touchpad and when developer for patch upgrades it will show as upgrade in prepare......
Yea I had noticed the same thing. I am going to downgrade though, not enough improvements for me to stick on this.
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Yea I had noticed the same thing. I am going to downgrade though, not enough improvements for me to stick on this.
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Given that a stock 3.0.4 runs at pretty much the same speed as a fully patched & overclocked 3.0.2, I would've thought that waiting a couple of days for the patches to be made compatible with 3.0.4 wouldn't be that big a deal.
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Yea I had noticed the same thing. I am going to downgrade though, not enough improvements for me to stick on this.
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im thinking of downgrading to 3.0.3 too.
my previous 3.0.3 with all the patches are much snappier than 3.0.4
but, i think im gonna to wait for awhile untill the new patches for 3.0.4 come out.
Hey guys so i just got a shipment notification so I'll be picking up my touchpad tonight.
Where should i start?
Install Android? I'm very comfortable with Android.
install another operating system?
Good apps? Games?
Looking for a good browser.
Basically any recommendations for a touchpad noob I'd appreciate.
Thanks a lot
Congrats!
Honestly, I would try out WebOS for a while. I was surprised how much I liked it. I haven't bothered to install Android (this coming from an Android phone and Nook Color with CM7). For starters, do a system update to get the latest WebOS version. Then, make sure everything works (ie. don't go and void your warranty right away ). There are some free apps you may as well peruse and download in the HP App Catalog.
It's not really necessary anymore since the latest OS update brought a lot of performance improvements, but you may want to check out the Preware patches once you're satisfied with the hardware.
I don't think there are too many other OS options yet aside from CM7. However, ICS, Ubuntu, and Windows 8 are all good possibilities in the future.
FWIW, the stock WebOS browser is so-so. There are a few patches to add some features, but it's still a sore spot compared to all of the options on Android (why can't WebOS get Opera or Dolphin?!). That said, it does handle most pages very well.
Thanks for all the good info!
System updates, are those done via computer or ota?
I assume most software changes such as adding cm7 can be undone for warranty purposes?
I have cm7 on my desire hd so i should be able to use wifi hotspot on my phone and pick it up on the touchpad?
Usually i like to do a bit more research on a device but i got caught up in a $99 black Friday sale so i panicked and bought
The system updates can be done OTA. I believe you can do them through the computer too though if it's easier, or you run into any issues. There is an app/settings pane in the menu to do it.
For the most part -- yeah you should be able to revert to stock if you need to. I'm not sure what breadcrumbs all the patches and CM7, etc, leave behind, but it should be possible. There's something called WebOS Doctor that should be able to restore as well. That said, HP's support has so far seemed incredible for a discontinued product, so it might not even be a problem unless the mods really did break it.
I think wifi tethering should be ok, but I can't say for sure. I think there is a thread somewhere around here about that or ad-hoc networking.
Lol... I know what you mean. I bought mine during the fire sale weekend with barely an idea of what I would do with it.
So i got my new toy last night. Everything is working good. Did the system update on webos ota. Seems like a pretty cool OS. I did find it slightly laggy though while scrolling, surfing, loading programs. I also installed cm7, only took about 10 mins and it's an OS I'm more comfortable working in (plus i needed dolphin browser for proper tabs, i wanted to pull my hair after surfing with the Web OS "tabs"). For being in alpha stages i must say it's very usable.
What are some reasonable expectations on battery life? Webos or Android, standby or "heavy" use?
All in I'm quite happy with my initial testing, especially for the price!
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So i got my new toy last night. Everything is working good. Did the system update on webos ota. Seems like a pretty cool OS. I did find it slightly laggy though while scrolling, surfing, loading programs. I also installed cm7, only took about 10 mins and it's an OS I'm more comfortable working in (plus i needed dolphin browser for proper tabs, i wanted to pull my hair after surfing with the Web OS "tabs"). For being in alpha stages i must say it's very usable.
What are some reasonable expectations on battery life? Webos or Android, standby or "heavy" use?
All in I'm quite happy with my initial testing, especially for the price!
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Really about 7 - 8 hours on android and webos
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I think I'm going to wait awhile on mine. I'm beginning to see others having certain issues that a n00by like me would probably not enjoy All & all I'm happy with my rooted 1.40 Nook. I may just wait for the SD card version of CM7 to play with it. I sure do admire these guys that know how to work with this code and develop OS systems Sure wish I knew how to do this stuff.
I'm perfectly content with the way I currently have my NT set up. Rooted, OTA-blocked, using an alternate launcher, and having a shortcut to the default launcher if I want to read something or browse the Nook Store.
Now if CM9 becomes available on the NT, I might have to give that a shot.
I think some of the main features that a custom ROM such as CM7 can provide are bluetooth and multi-touch (which isn't available yet but currently under development). I'm not sure that's available for a rooted stock ROM. I saw some video of someone using a PS3 controller to play emulated games on their Nook Color so I can imagine that would be a great freature to add on.
I'm going to wait until they do further testing with CM7, at least until they get to a beta stage but I think it's the way to go for me.
I'm just waiting for a sure way to access the nook library. I have some magazine subscriptions that I don't wanna give up.
One of the main reasons I got the Nook Tab is because I saw that people were working on getting CM7/9 going on it. I had a $250 gift card from work to B&N, so it was a winning situation for me. I doubt I would have bought it if CM7 hadn't been on the horizon. I've actually never used it stock, I had it rooted and all B&N stuff stripped off within hours of buying it.
I definitely recommend flashing CM7 unless you are completely married to the stock B&N Stuff, then wait for the SD install method. Flashing CM7 is easier than most of the steps required to root, side load, fix unreadable menu's, etc, all the dumb crap I had to d to make this thing usable.
Almost everything is available in the market. No sideloading, no finding apps with your browser and tricking the market, almost everything works. All my important apps and favorite games have worked with no issues.
Menu's are all standardized, everything is readable, all options are open, just fantastic having all those little pieces working in every app with no fuss or hacks.
Rebooting is so much faster, not sure if it was all the apps I had or what but my reboots took forever with my stock rooted, now are 3 times quicker.
The thing just feels snappier, not sure if it is a placebo effect or not, but definitely feels faster.
Overall it feels like a tablet instead of a hacked e-reader. There may be some bugs that surface and a few things are being looking to, but so far so good
CM7 was the reason why I'm going to get a NOOK... well and the books lol
I installed the B & N app from the market and everything works great. I have been able to use my existing account to purchase books i have been able to move books over onto the Sd card in .epub format and read them. Make sure to fix permissions andcormate cache anddevlick cache if you are updating from first CM7 alpha.
Yeah i love cm7
I was nervouse when i first did it but it turned out all right in the end. Now ive got CWM and titaniumbsckup functionality and i can flash any rom or anything. Not only is cm7 a great new version of the OS but it opens the door to all the other roms that you could ever want to install. Only complaint is that the HD youtube videos lag, but the devs know about it and are fixing it. Id highly recommend it. Hope you take the plunge!
-Silente
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the only thing that worries me is that I have 1 week left to decide if i want to buy the 2 year warranty. what would happen if i need to send in for repairs if it has cm7?
Lined up all the tools I might need if disaster were to strike. Stuck the zip onto an SD card & went for it. I'm not looking back. Warranty? I won't be needing no stinkin' warranty.
The Lord has indeed Blessed me this day!
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Greatness83 said:
the only thing that worries me is that I have 1 week left to decide if i want to buy the 2 year warranty. what would happen if i need to send in for repairs if it has cm7?
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That would be a big VOID if they could tell. If it won't boot up not much chance of that
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That would be a big VOID if they could tell. If it won't boot up not much chance of that
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I installed CM7 and messed around with it for a day or so. It worked great - with the exception of streaming video. Where HULU and Vulkano (slingbox-like DVR that works with my Directv) were smooth as silk with rooted NT on CWM, the CM7 vers. video would briefly "hang/stutter" from time to time - a bit annoying. Others have reported this same issue, and I know that the Devs are working on this.
Also, I lost all of my B&N stuff - not a huge loss - but think I may wait for the SD card version which, if I understand correctly, will allow me to hang on to that.
That said, I reverted back to the stock 1.4.0 using the "magiccard" method, and then re-rooted with Albert's SD card method (vers 4.50). So, assuming the unit keeps working (will boot,) does anyone know if there is a way for B&N to tell that a unit has ever been on CM7/rooted? I thought the magiccard method basically wiped the partitions and put the stock rom back on.
Thanks! Bob
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I think I'm going to wait awhile on mine. I'm beginning to see others having certain issues that a n00by like me would probably not enjoy All & all I'm happy with my rooted 1.40 Nook. I may just wait for the SD card version of CM7 to play with it. I sure do admire these guys that know how to work with this code and develop OS systems Sure wish I knew how to do this stuff.
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I purchased my nook tab specifically to tinker with and have no investment in BnN ecosystem. So far I've have some really frustrating problems that took a week or two of research and tinkering to work out. It has been a great learning experience. I now know a little about the inner workings of the Android OS and have a functional tablet to play with while the wife watches Netflix. Getting CM 7 working gave me a real sense of accomplishment. Before getting the tab for xmas I only had experience rooting my Droid 3 (one click method at that), So I am a real n00b too. I just went into this wanting to tackle my own problems. My advice, if you like what you've got, don't fix what ain't broke. - yes I am a hillbilly thankyaverymuch!
2nd post in xda sent from nook tab CM7
I'll try it out if/when an SD bootable version comes out. I read and buy a lot of graphic novels and comic collections that are only viewable via the built-in reader.
For awhile I was just following on the developments and waiting till a stable version was released of CM7 because I was able to do what was needed with stock + root. The other day I decided to do some catching up in the NT scene and figured the CM7 Alpha12 looked pretty stable, so I gave it a shot. I am really glad that I did this, the NT just runs so much better than it did using the stock firmware + root. I am loving CM7 Alpha12 so far. If you were skeptical about installing CM7 due to it's Alpha status and possible bugs, as long as you haven't invested a ton of money into the B&N Store or stream a lot of video content. I think you should give it a shot because TEAM-B has been doing a great job.
Changed my mind and glad I did! !!! Loving CM7
I think I am going to wait for the SD version.
I think after a stable method to root/ block/ flash comes out that us non-devs can execute with consistent success I will try CM7. I am rooted - Thanks Indirect! - but I also had problems with the last time I tried CM7. At this point it's just not worth the extra work to try and fix a borked NT. Having said that, Veronica's ROM here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1512373 is pretty awesome looking and I can't wait to try it out.
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I'm terrifically sorry - I've committed the noob crime of failing to search....and posting (inadvertently) in a thread that was already dead. I found the answer to my question. Sorry for the nuisance.
- Computerslayer