Hey guys,
I'm new to the Android community. Im debating between OGS2 vs Skyrocket. I've been reading about how the OGS2 will have more 'developer support' than the Skyrocket. What exactly does that mean? Ive had jailbroken iphones so I know a bit bout phone modding. From what I understand, the Skyrocket has been rooted and will be getting ICS. So would it be able to use all the same hacks as the OGS2? Thanks.
nthydro said:
Hey guys,
I'm new to the Android community. Im debating between OGS2 vs Skyrocket. I've been reading about how the OGS2 will have more 'developer support' than the Skyrocket. What exactly does that mean? Ive had jailbroken iphones so I know a bit bout phone modding. From what I understand, the Skyrocket has been rooted and will be getting ICS. So would it be able to use all the same hacks as the OGS2? Thanks.
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NOOO the dev support on the skyrocket WILL be accute when compared to the OG SGS2. but i mean the phone just came out yesterday.
and we do have root, and working cwm.
the2rrell said:
NOOO the dev support on the skyrocket WILL be accute when compared to the OG SGS2. but i mean the phone just came out yesterday.
and we do have root, and working cwm.
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Thanks for your reply. Lol Im assuming 'accute' means 'the same' right? I guess I'm just worried if I go with the Skyrocket it wouldn't have as many themes, mods, updates, etc...
nthydro said:
Thanks for your reply. Lol Im assuming 'accute' means 'the same' right? I guess I'm just worried if I go with the Skyrocket it wouldn't have as many themes, mods, updates, etc...
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Acute being defined as small, It may or may not have the same sized community but I am going with small. With the difference in basically everything on the phone, nothing from the ogs2 will be easily ported over the skyrocket. You best bet is to get the TMob GS2 devs to make a port as that phone is far more similar to the sky rocket than the ogs2.
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Acute being defined as small, It may or may not have the same sized community but I am going with small. With the difference in basically everything on the phone, nothing from the ogs2 will be easily ported over the skyrocket. You best bet is to get the TMob GS2 devs to make a port as that phone is far more similar to the sky rocket than the ogs2.
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Yes as meaning Small, the dev support with be Minute in comparison. so if your a flashaholic u may want to get the OGSGS2
Smaller. The issue is it's different hardware than that of the International SGSGII, Sprint and AT&T SGSII.
The i777 can have ported roms due to similar hardware - much like the Galaxy S line (Galaxy S, Captivate and so on).
It's one reason I chose the SGSII.
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NOOO the dev support on the skyrocket WILL be accute when compared to the OG SGS2. but i mean the phone just came out yesterday.
and we do have root, and working cwm.
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I rooted my skyrocket and the cwm for the tmobile version is suppose to work
I also think dev support for the skyrocket will be less than the OGSGS2. I have the OGSGS2 and was a little afraid that our very talented devs would jump ship to the Skyrocket. That's why I was ecstatic to see Entropy512's latest release....Hellraiser for OGSGS2 (see dev section for thread). This opens up the very established and large i9100 dev community to our i777.
It boils down to this - i9100 has a VERY large international community behind it. The i777 is very similar to i9100 and now with Hellraiser we can even flash their ROM's. Skyrocket has a different chipset that isn't as well supported....YET. (someone correct me if I'm wrong on this).
Aah ok I see now. The difference in hardware is the reason why one has more dev support. Thanks for the explanation fellas. Unfortunately that makes my decision tougher since I was leaning towards Skyrocket but now I don't know. I don't wanna miss out on hacks and whatnot.
It doesn't make much sense that it's tacked onto the i777 forum. It'd be like putting the Infuse forum into the Captivate section.
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It doesn't make much sense that it's tacked onto the i777 forum. It'd be like putting the Infuse forum into the Captivate section.
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I agree... While the two share similar names, that truly seems to be the extent of the similarities...
Can the Powers that Be consider creating a separate Forum just for the Skyrocket so as to eliminate possible confusion, especially from noobs?
I can see a whole bunch of bricked phones from people trying to flash a custom ASGSII ROM onto a Skyrocket just because they didn't know any better, and they were located in the same subforum.
We all know how much people tend to READ warnings... it's always AFTER something is F'ed up. LOL...
Don
MikeyMike01 said:
It doesn't make much sense that it's tacked onto the i777 forum. It'd be like putting the Infuse forum into the Captivate section.
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Worse than Infuse in the Cappy section... I wish there were a "report forum for moving" thread. At least Heimdall worked on the Infuse!
I'm so afraid of the flood of "Y HEIMDALL NO WORK?" threads that are going to come with the Skyrocket in our forums.
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Worse than Infuse in the Cappy section... I wish there were a "report forum for moving" thread. At least Heimdall worked on the Infuse!
I'm so afraid of the flood of "Y HEIMDALL NO WORK?" threads that are going to come with the Skyrocket in our forums.
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whomp whomp whomp......lol
dlwoodjr said:
I agree... While the two share similar names, that truly seems to be the extent of the similarities...
Can the Powers that Be consider creating a separate Forum just for the Skyrocket so as to eliminate possible confusion, especially from noobs?
I can see a whole bunch of bricked phones from people trying to flash a custom ASGSII ROM onto a Skyrocket just because they didn't know any better, and they were located in the same subforum.
We all know how much people tend to READ warnings... it's always AFTER something is F'ed up. LOL...
Don
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I don't mind READING info on the Ltd gs2. BUT I sure hope that any mods, roms, development WILL NOT be included into the dev section otherwise WE WILL be seeing people that are newer coming in here with their lte SGS2 and flashing i777 roms and vice versa newbs with i777 flashing i727 lte phone roms, mods, etc. and causing all kinds of issues. I hope they get their own sub forum soon before any major development takes place for it.
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RockRatt said:
I don't mind READING info on the Ltd gs2. BUT I sure hope that any mods, roms, development WILL NOT be included into the dev section otherwise WE WILL be seeing people that are newer coming in here with their lte SGS2 and flashing i777 roms and vice versa newbs with i777 flashing i727 lte phone roms, mods, etc. and causing all kinds of issues. I hope they get their own sub forum soon before any major development takes place for it.
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i do agree with yall, but peoeple should read.
obviously the Skyrocket is not the OG sgs2. and all threads about the skyrocket have the word SKYROCKET in the title.
the2rrell said:
i do agree with yall, but peoeple should read.
obviously the Skyrocket is not the OG sgs2. and all threads about the skyrocket have the word SKYROCKET in the title.
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After my year or so of being in the captivate forum and now here. People reading is something that never happens. It's like some sort of lost art...OMG I Bricked my Device because I didn't read the bold text in the OP to not do what I did. Gotta love noobs, hell how many posts do we get still from people flashing intl gs2 roms and wondering why the buttons don't work... Facepalm
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1336586
Enough said...
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it has begun ..... lol
the2rrell said:
i do agree with yall, but peoeple should read.
obviously the Skyrocket is not the OG sgs2. and all threads about the skyrocket have the word SKYROCKET in the title.
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People are posting here because it's been the topic of quite a bit of discussion here. But if you want us to have our own forum, feel free to vote to get us one. I for one thing the Skyrocket hate is getting old quickly. It's certainly much better "out of the box" than the OG. (I certainly don't miss the button lag and lower network speeds). It will get support soon enough, and for now you can always root it and use the stock kernel.
I don't miss the middle button lag but I do miss the middle button!
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There has been no leak so far. I was wondering. Will it mean anything for us Vibrant users. I ask because i randomly read somewhere that the Nexus S was more like the vibrant than the I9000. It could be complete BS, but i was just curious. Wanted to ask
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There has been no leak so far. I was wondering. Will it mean anything for us Vibrant users. I ask because i randomly read somewhere that the Nexus S was more like the vibrant than the I9000. It could be complete BS, but i was just curious. Wanted to ask
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well the nexus s is closer to a vibrant than an i9000,but the only differences between the vibrant and i9000 are kinda miniscule i.e. supported frequencies,button layout,kernels and modems.
my friend is getting the nexus s on launch day(im going to be with him) and i will try to get a system dump out,but im pretty sure someone wouldve already beat me to it...
yeah hopefully a dump will be available soon....just give it time
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well the nexus s is closer to a vibrant than an i9000,but the only differences between the vibrant and i9000 are kinda miniscule i.e. supported frequencies,button layout,kernels and modems.
my friend is getting the nexus s on launch day(im going to be with him) and i will try to get a system dump out,but im pretty sure someone wouldve already beat me to it...
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You sir, are awesome for giving me hope. I thank you for this gesture
Please upload the rom dump anyway. You may be the only one. Who knows
I just purchased a new vibrant 4g which is currently on its way. My question is will I be able to root it with the same process as the 3g vibrant and will I be able to use Masters/Team Whiskey roms on them can anyone please explain. I never post on xda so hopefully this is where this type of question belongs.....
No they are different enough they will not just flash, but converting Say a trigger or other Rom to the 4g will be totally doable, just depends on whether the devs actually get that phone. My guess not many will.
thanks for the response that really sucks I know I could have done the modification for the ffc on my own I really needed the 4g tethering so that was the only reason I gave up my vibrant. Looks at the specs the phones are pretty much exactly the same I see most devs taking the vibrant 4g and porting them over to the vibrant 3g I was hope I was going to be able to use some of the roms which sucks. I may just keep the vibrant 3g and not sell it not... thats dissappointing news thanks for the info
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Your one to talk....
ajm_ said:
I just purchased a new vibrant 4g which is currently on its way. My question is will I be able to root it with the same process as the 3g vibrant and will I be able to use Masters/Team Whiskey roms on them can anyone please explain. I never post on xda so hopefully this is where this type of question belongs.....
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Now to give you an answer: I have both phones. The 4g will have custom ROM's infact there are already 3 of them made by team whiskey. The problem is not having CWM working on our 4g phones yet. However, someone over at TW will be looking into getting this going this weekend. Once that is finished we will be capable of running custom ROM's
One good thing that bruce lee doesn't understand is that all these new PORTS the vibrant have been getting will require less modifying to work on the 4G.. Much smoother.
Bruce Lee sorry to kinda kick ya there, but how about not being a **** when your asking some noobish questions in your thread yourself. Everyone learns by asking questions.
Omg! just joshing. Although it is funny how all these people sooo anxious to hop on the latest and greatest where so sure 4g was going to be the natural progression of development. And despite many saying a ride on 4g wagon was illogical since theres no real advantage, an unlucky few still jumped.
Hey look, stop lying to these people; exclusive development for the 4g will likely never pick up. Even on tw own forum, was a guy advised to return the 4g because of its grim future. Every two years your carrier gives you the option to "upgrade" to a better phone not "side-step" to an equally comparable phone.
And just to be clear, I'm not trying to poke fun at the questioner. The above post is correct to state that no question is dumb are irrelevant and I live by this philosophy, as my previous post prove, and I am not ashamed of that. This was just a knee jerk reaction to some who i consider delusional in thinking 4g is so much more superior. Just thinking out loud
(on a lighter note) quote of the day: sex with 22 year old girl is like having a good carpenter; no wood gets waisted. -charlie sheen
lovemysgs said:
Now to give you an answer: I have both phones. The 4g will have custom ROM's infact there are already 3 of them made by team whiskey. The problem is not having CWM working on our 4g phones yet. However, someone over at TW will be looking into getting this going this weekend. Once that is finished we will be capable of running custom ROM's
One good thing that bruce lee doesn't understand is that all these new PORTS the vibrant have been getting will require less modifying to work on the 4G.. Much smoother.
Bruce Lee sorry to kinda kick ya there, but how about not being a **** when your asking some noobish questions in your thread yourself. Everyone learns by asking questions.
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Lovemysgs is correct, there are a couple- 3, And without CWM flashing them is not as easy as most are used to, So, depending on your understanding of how to mod the phone and how to use some of the other tools like adb SDK and Odin, I usually tell the less skilled or the less familiar to wait until the beta becomes a normal release.
Also, when they do mod these roms it WILL be much easier like lovemysgs said. The only real problem is alot of devs will have moved on to other phones since this is not really a new phone just an upgrade to the Vibrant. So I would guess there will be less support.
Good question BTW
The roms wont work but u can still change a few things on it. The Linda sounds posted in the theme section works. You just have to move the files with root explorer. Also the transition animations done through metaphorph work. And you can change the touchwiz launcher with sgs tools. And you can change the shutdown but not the bootup animations.
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I'd really like to get the Galaxy S2, but not without Cyanogen Mod support. What do you think are the chances that the Galaxy S2 will get CM? The Galaxy S still has no stable CM Rom.
Does a bear **** in the woods?
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Polar bears don't.
But why doesn't the Galaxy S have a stable CM ROM then?
Stock Media Codecs > CM
if they find a way to keep all the goodies from Samsung then I'm all for it
Frankly, I don't care about the Samsung programmes. If it can be turned off, then ok, but I'd rather have the whole CM experience.
This hardly seems like the right forum for this thread...
So what's the right forum, if not the Galaxy S II Android Development Forum?
Android Development should only contain threads based on actual projects/ROMs/kernels/etc being developed. Discussions about what may or may not be coming to the device should go in general. Best rule of thumb in my book: if you're not actually developing something yourself, a thread shouldn't be started here.
Sorry if I came off like a prick - I just know that this ends up becoming more work for the mods who have to comb through and move threads around.
Also I apologize for theoretically hijacking your thread - Just trying to help keep people in the know
hopefully it will get CM
i really cant stand touchwiz
slyydrr said:
Android Development should only contain threads based on actual projects/ROMs/kernels/etc being developed. Discussions about what may or may not be coming to the device should go in general. Best rule of thumb in my book: if you're not actually developing something yourself, a thread shouldn't be started here.
Sorry if I came off like a prick - I just know that this ends up becoming more work for the mods who have to comb through and move threads around.
Also I apologize for theoretically hijacking your thread - Just trying to help keep people in the know
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No problem, I didn't know that.
Maybe a moderator can move the thread into the appropriate forum.
What I really like to know is why the Galaxy S still hasn't got a stable release. Is this also to be expected with the S2?
slyydrr said:
Android Development should only contain threads based on actual projects/ROMs/kernels/etc being developed. Discussions about what may or may not be coming to the device should go in general. Best rule of thumb in my book: if you're not actually developing something yourself, a thread shouldn't be started here.
Sorry if I came off like a prick - I just know that this ends up becoming more work for the mods who have to comb through and move threads around.
Also I apologize for theoretically hijacking your thread - Just trying to help keep people in the know
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I agree. Good post, and yes, this should have been in General. Just keep that in mind for the next time We are all excited for this phone, and i personally think that Samsung stock ROM is also quite good. However, to each his own, and I am sure that CM will be out for this phone too
Cheers!
ro-mann said:
No problem, I didn't know that.
Maybe a moderator can move the thread into the appropriate forum.
What I really like to know is why the Galaxy S still hasn't got a stable release. Is this also to be expected with the S2?
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Moved to general
The SGS2 is similar to the SGS in many ways, therefore CM will be difficult to port over.
Especially that there is no Nexus S 2 (a lot of CM7 is from the Nexus S)
Don't expect CM7+ to be running on the SGS2 anytime soon, although it probably eventually will. That's unless anything else happen (a/a genius comes along b/samsung open source more stuff c/Nexus S 2 is released d/sgs2 shares even more with the sgs than I though and current work can be ported over more easily)
This phone is fast enough without CM7. A clean up of the stock ROM, a new launcher and its sweet enough!
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risq said:
This phone is fast enough without CM7. A clean up of the stock ROM, a new launcher and its sweet enough!
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It will still miss the CM Tweaks.
A shame that Cyanogen has chosen the G2x as his next phone. The Galaxy S2 is way better than the G2x.
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The SGS2 is similar to the SGS in many ways, therefore CM will be difficult to port over.
Especially that there is no Nexus S 2 (a lot of CM7 is from the Nexus S)
Don't expect CM7+ to be running on the SGS2 anytime soon, although it probably eventually will. That's unless anything else happen (a/a genius comes along b/samsung open source more stuff c/Nexus S 2 is released d/sgs2 shares even more with the sgs than I though and current work can be ported over more easily)
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i'm not aware of the history, why exactly was it difficult to bring cyanogen to the original galaxy s, and hence this SGS2 as well? wasnt it like any other phone, the source was released, and cm team built from that?
RogerPodacter said:
i'm not aware of the history, why exactly was it difficult to bring cyanogen to the original galaxy s, and hence this SGS2 as well? wasnt it like any other phone, the source was released, and cm team built from that?
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Open-source drivers are hard to find. The system is open source but the drivers are not.
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Open-source drivers are hard to find. The system is open source but the drivers are not.
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Isn't this the case with any other phone?
But why doesn't the Galaxy S have a stable CM ROM then?
Buy the devs a SGS 2 and they can work on it . Bit hard to work on a phone you dont have .
jje
Well, apparently they have a Galaxy S, otherwise there wouldn't be Release Candidates.
Hi, I have a GS1, GS2 (hardly mine but still) and a GS3. For GS1 there is an abundance of ROMS, kernels etc. İn a couple of days after a new Android version gets released lots of ROMS become available. When it comes to GS2 and GS3 though, there are hardly any choices. For example, at the moment there are about 10 4.2.1 ROMs just in the first page of I9000 development. There is none for the others.
What is the reason for this even though the other two have much higher userbases? Just curious. Happy holidays.
GS 1 needs development GS3 does not so much .
There are only so many variations on themed roms .
Its a devs choice what to build and if you are lucky to share with XDA users .
A fair number no longer post on XDA as they are fed up with idiotic questions .
You can speed the process up by donating a SGS3 to a dev .
jje
Is that idiotic questions part for me? It is hardly an idiotic question. With a little overclock I can get more performance out of my GS1 than GS3, the stock performance is really low. I've seen lots of comments how it takes too long to open the phone and contacts apps etc. It is not like I'm angry for no development. It is a simple question.
I've been donating money to everyone who helped me. Thank you.
Inagalaxyfaraway said:
Is that idiotic questions part for me? It is hardly an idiotic question. With a little overclock I can get more performance out of my GS1 than GS3, the stock performance is really low. I've seen lots of comments how it takes too long to open the phone and contacts apps etc. It is not like I'm angry for no development. It is a simple question.
I've been donating money to everyone who helped me. Thank you.
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Like the person above you said there are only so many variation in themes for a rom.. Plus GS3 is fast as it is so making a rooted custom rom is for apps and themes.. Also for those apps that need root.. Anyway he is also right dev's deffo get fedup after a while due to the same question asked so many times. They make FAQ's but that still results in so many same questions..
Inagalaxyfaraway said:
Is that idiotic questions part for me? It is hardly an idiotic question. With a little overclock I can get more performance out of my GS1 than GS3, the stock performance is really low. I've seen lots of comments how it takes too long to open the phone and contacts apps etc. It is not like I'm angry for no development. It is a simple question.
I've been donating money to everyone who helped me. Thank you.
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What planet are you on m8? a gs1 outperforming a gs3? Yea sure.
There is an abundance of development for the s3, but i would like to know what you want to achieve from this thread?
Perhaps you should give developing a go yourself and stop being a....
MOD EDIT: Appreciate the point your trying to get across but try not to use foul language, Thanks.
EDIT: Thanks Mod, sorry about that, I was on the fence over that one.
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What planet are you on m8? a gs1 outperforming a gs3? Yea sure.
There is an abundance of development for the s3, but i would like to know what you want to achieve from this thread?
Perhaps you should give developing a go yourself and stop being a....
MOD EDIT: Appreciate the point your trying to get across but try not to use foul language, Thanks.
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Well i was going to tone it down because i've been such an ass lately but i support you lool..
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What planet are you on m8? a gs1 outperforming a gs3? Yea sure.
There is an abundance of development for the s3, but i would like to know what you want to achieve from this thread?
Perhaps you should give developing a go yourself and stop being a....
MOD EDIT: Appreciate the point your trying to get across but try not to use foul language, Thanks.
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Legendary, absolutely legendary.
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Inagalaxyfaraway said:
Is that idiotic questions part for me? It is hardly an idiotic question. With a little overclock I can get more performance out of my GS1 than GS3, the stock performance is really low. I've seen lots of comments how it takes too long to open the phone and contacts apps etc. It is not like I'm angry for no development. It is a simple question.
I've been donating money to everyone who helped me. Thank you.
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Did i say your question was idiotic ???
I merely stated that due to idiotic posters a number of devs no longer put stuff on XDA .
Like those that don't read the instructions and continually ask for updates or fail to understand what was written .
Do you misunderstand what XDA Developers forum is >> Most definitely you do .
jje
dladz said:
What planet are you on m8? a gs1 outperforming a gs3? Yea sure.
There is an abundance of development for the s3, but i would like to know what you want to achieve from this thread?
Perhaps you should give developing a go yourself and stop being a....
MOD EDIT: Appreciate the point your trying to get across but try not to use foul language, Thanks.
EDIT: Thanks Mod, sorry about that, I was on the fence over that one.
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Maybe you should stop being a whatever you were writing. I've never criticised anyone for not developing, I've kindly asked is there a technical reason for this. If you don't have an answer you can shut up and get out of here.
JJEgan said:
Did i say your question was idiotic ???
I merely stated that due to idiotic posters a number of devs no longer put stuff on XDA .
Like those that don't read the instructions and continually ask for updates or fail to understand what was written .
Do you misunderstand what XDA Developers forum is >> Most definitely you do .
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I've misunderstood your post, sorry about that. You've suggested me to donate a SGS3 and obviously it is hardly possible for anyone, so I've assumed you were angry for this post.
I've simply asked a question is there a technical reason for the thing I've described above, I don't care whether everyone develops for GS3 or nobody.
Anyway, again I am sorry for that misunderstanding.
Inagalaxyfaraway said:
Hi, I have a GS1, GS2 (hardly mine but still) and a GS3. For GS1 there is an abundance of ROMS, kernels etc. İn a couple of days after a new Android version gets released lots of ROMS become available. When it comes to GS2 and GS3 though, there are hardly any choices. For example, at the moment there are about 10 4.2.1 ROMs just in the first page of I9000 development. There is none for the others.
What is the reason for this even though the other two have much higher userbases? Just curious. Happy holidays.
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You may have answered the question yourself. Userbase is bound to be higher, hence more custom roms.
GS1 has been out for nearly three years. GS3 about half a year.
I didn't have a very close look, but the 10 4.2.1 roms you mention are probably all CM kangs.
Number of JB 4.2 ROMs shouldn't really matter, as they will probably be quite similar in the general functions they offer. Will all of those 10 JB 4.2 ROMs be so unique from each other that they look like HTC vs Samsung for example? I wouldn't think so. Not downtalking the importance of developers or anything but you can customise the ROMs to your taste using the mods and apps in the Themes & Apps section if you want diversification.
i know i posted up earlier about the red border. Everything is good now. I just now have questions about this phone and its development stages. Since for some reason i cant post in dev page. I have to ask here.
So i was half tempted to not get this phone simply because i browsed the threads and saw no real roms or kernals that do anything fancy. I come from an evo 3d and could flash a rom every single day if i wanted because there were so many. I know this phone is new how new im still not sure upon. I see a real lack of any development on here. The best you can get is turning your og into a nexus 4 and than have cm 10.1 with the downside of only 8gigs of storage period. Well that was the whole reason i did not just pick up the htc one x was because there was no expandable memory and at most you had 10g of internal storage and thats it! so whats going on here? I know alot about the scene and though i have no coding experience myself nor rom building experience. I do love to test roms and i really want a not a stock feel to the phone. Where is the overclocking, where is the transperent status bar, where is anything to make this phone really stick out from stock? Hell i was running jb 4.2 on my evo 3d. Now im stuck being back on ICS? How is this possible that there is not stable jb port to this phone that is properly working. I have 14 days to return this phone. And with people releasing roms that the camera does not work, and storage is crap, and no overclocking support, is it because this is not the phone i thought it could be? Am i not doing enough research. Im currently rooted, unlocked, and running nocturnal limited, and i still feel stock and still 4.04.
Is this phone going to be heavily dev supported like the evo 3d is still today or should i return it and get a phone like the htc one that actually has dev support. All the roms i have seen for this phone is almost complete garbage interms of what this phone should be capable of. And the idea of turning into a nexus 4 is the most idiotic thing i ever heard.... let me change my phone to be another phone? Who wanted that and why did they just not go and get the nexus 4? I may be ranting but i could have got the htc one for .99 as opposed to the $100 i paid to sign a contract with att. I want to know if i am really getting jipped here. Is this not the phone plenty rave about? If your on this site there is no way you want a stock feeling phone and thats what i feel we are getting. I donated to get the freegee app to find out there is no good roms therefor no need to unlock the bootloader so i can flash roms that are not here..........
please dont come at me like a hard a$$ and talk crap, im simply expressing an opinion and asking questions. I loved my evo3d and if i have to carry both around because my 3 year old phone is 10 times better than this optimus im going to be upset. I would just like someone to explain what is in the works with this phone, and if and when there will be some real dev support and why there is almost non at the moment. It sad when devs are still all over the 3d posting new roms everyday, and this one has 5 that are garbage?
thank you for your actual intelligent responses, and cant wait for some nerd raging on me for blasting this out like this. Im simply being real.
Try reading this forum for the answers to your questions. Then maybe sell your OG to someone who appreciates it and knows what to do with it. Sounds like you'd be better off with a SG3. Good luck.
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Wow.... I'll take your OG if you don't want it. Seriously, I will.
This is why I like having iOS around. That way we can weed out the idiots from android. You should really check out the iPhone. I hear it can make phone calls. You should like it.
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exactly the responses i was expecting lol.....
Its clearly obvious i have read the forums as i am rooted, unlocked with twrp and nocturnal limited rom... so thank you for pointing out how much i have not read.
As for the sg3...... well thats is just an over priced piece of trash everyone i know hates them.... so thanks but piss off...
as for your iphone comment... only mainstream looooooosers have iphones as they are for the dumb...
no you may not have my optimus if i do anything with it , it will go back to att and ill get a htc one x+ at least people are doing things or at least talking of things they are doing.
HTC has huge dev support and this being my first LG i knew it was going to take some getting used to. I was just hoping for a little more out of this highly praised machine. It is a great phone, i will not say its not. I just was expecting from such a great phone a huge dev following of which i do not see. I see about 5 different roms, a custom cwm touch recovery, and hmmm..... turning your optimus into a nexus.. For you thinking that i am bashing on lg and should give it away.... there is people here pretending there phones are different phones... "hey look i know it says lg but is totally a nexus!" I can download a launcher that makes my phone look like a windows phone.... but hmmmm how dumb is that? At the end of this rant, i was curious as to what anyone knows about the future of the development on this phone. Clearly you do not have answers because that would take thinking, your idiotic comments and replys did nothing to offer any sort of answer nor did it show your IQ being anywhere near that of a 10 year old..
I clearly posted i await your nerd rage and therefore clearly enjoy it, however this thread was not started with the sole intent of it being a bickering fest. I wanted some serious answers, and I tried to express myself and thoughts on this phone along with questions that involved the future of this phone.
I am a flashaholic, i love to make my phones the best they can be. I love anything custom! So if you wanna cry about my thoughts on the phone cry, ill bring you a tissue, otherwise offer some real insight into what this phone is all about, and hopefully where this phone might be heading. Otherwise take your trolling, crying , butthurt comments somewhere else, as they are just absolutely humorous to me, and ill will reply accordingly.
Thanks and hope to hear some real comments...
btw: i cant wait for the grammer police comments cause it seems if no one has something good to say, they just like to correct your grammer, sort of like "your a tool" "no, your a tool" and we can definatly take this back to 1st grade if you like.
Joecascio2000 said:
This is why I like having iOS around. That way we can weed out the idiots from android. You should really check out the iPhone. I hear it can make phone calls. You should like it.
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look what i found... while i was busy not reading btw
"have the AT&T LGOG and it's rooted with unlocked boot loader and is running a custom ROM called The Base. Devs are working hard to build a way to easily port any Nexus 4 ROM. They have CM10 working but are still working out the kinks before releasing it. CM9 and a stock AOSP rom are also in the works. The Base is a stock, rooted, and debloated ROM and it is already out. Development is going strong and everyday I see more developers move on over to it. Since it is very similar to the Nexus 4, once all the hard work is done building the device tree, roms are gonna come flying out."
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I do believe its a great phone, but heavily relying on nexus devs to do all the dirty work, granted they are practically the same. Again i wanted to know whats up with this phone.
Stop. Seriously, just stop right now.
If all of these features are important to you, and flashing a new rom everyday gives your life some meaning, then you made an idiotic move purchasing this phone.
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ripbabey said:
look what i found... while i was busy not reading btw
"have the AT&T LGOG and it's rooted with unlocked boot loader and is running a custom ROM called The Base. Devs are working hard to build a way to easily port any Nexus 4 ROM. They have CM10 working but are still working out the kinks before releasing it. CM9 and a stock AOSP rom are also in the works. The Base is a stock, rooted, and debloated ROM and it is already out. Development is going strong and everyday I see more developers move on over to it. Since it is very similar to the Nexus 4, once all the hard work is done building the device tree, roms are gonna come flying out."
by joecascio2000
I do believe its a great phone, but heavily relying on nexus devs to do all the dirty work, granted they are practically the same. Again i wanted to know whats up with this phone.
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And...? Everything I said is true.
LGOG is rooted and has unlocked bootloader
Has stock roms (The Base, Slick, Noc)
Devs are still working on a way to port Nexus 4 roms (I believe it has to do with building a device tree and obtaining source for JB kernel)
CM10 (an actual ROM, not the N4 conversion) is "almost" done (About 3 weeks ago a dev said it booted and they could hear the lock screen but couldn't see the display due to driver issues.
A dev was working on CM9 but I believe they stopped because there was no point in releasing an outdated ROM.
Development is going strong and everyday I see more developers move on over to it. - Fact (Development is a slow process. They have made huge progress in only a few months. This phone isn't like samsung. They are working from a locked down system with no source code. They are amazing for what they do. They are some of the best devs on XDA.)
Once we have on bootable ROM, which will happen, Roms will be coming out quickly.
So I guess the real question is, "Do you actually know how to read?"
Joecascio2000 said:
And...? Everything I said is true.
LGOG is rooted and has unlocked bootloader
Has stock roms (The Base, Slick, Noc)
Devs are still working on a way to port Nexus 4 roms (I believe it has to do with building a device tree and obtaining source for JB kernel)
CM10 (an actual ROM, not the N4 conversion) is "almost" done (About 3 weeks ago a dev said it booted and they could hear the lock screen but couldn't see the display due to driver issues.
A dev was working on CM9 but I believe they stopped because there was no point in releasing an outdated ROM.
Development is going strong and everyday I see more developers move on over to it. - Fact (Development is a slow process. They have made huge progress in only a few months. This phone isn't like samsung. They are working from a locked down system with no source code. They are amazing for what they do. They are some of the best devs on XDA.)
Once we have on bootable ROM, which will happen, Roms will be coming out quickly.
So I guess the real question is, "Do you actually know how to read?"
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never said it wasnt true, just was in response to your ignorant iphone comment as well as the learn to read comment. Stop nerd raging for a minute, how hard is it to answer the questions? I already made a comment on the cm10.1 in my op.....all of the stuff you listed in your comment i already did... I asked what is next? What do you think the future dev is? Will this actually have a strong dev following? Will there be any decent , stable, overclocked, tweaked roms to come to this phone.
Thank you for finally giving me a little more of an answer than a mean spirited remark. I am no idiot, i did not post anywhere in this forum newb questions on how to root my lg, or unlock it, or flash a recovery, or install a rom..... I wanted to know what is really going on with this phone. So thank you joe for actually answering my questions.
gregk232 said:
Stop. Seriously, just stop right now.
If all of these features are important to you, and flashing a new rom everyday gives your life some meaning, then you made an idiotic move purchasing this phone.
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You sir..... Is your computer broken, are you stuck on my thread and only my thread which is preventing you from looking at anything else, instead of making a dumb rude comment? Stop trolling every thread and post that is on the site.... you talk about giving my life meaning and here you are telling me to stop it? Hmmmm who are you? I asked questions and my personal feelings on the phone thus far, and in no way bashed the phone or its following. I simply asked questions. I posted joes comment because as i read i actually found it useful. So thanks for peeking in this thread but your comments are best left in that pea sized thing rattling around in your giant head some might call a brain.. I asked questions in the Q and A forum......your comment was neither a q nor an a thus GTFO! XDA is where is got a lot of my EVO 3D questions answered and i respect this site. Its arseholes like you that make people scared to ask questions for fear of some ignorant jacka$$ trying to put them down.
I however can not and will not be intimidated, if i have done anything to violate the terms of this forum, please report me and have me banned. Your STOP IT attack was in no way useful.
SO..... STOP IT, JUST STOP IT!
ripbabey said:
never said it wasnt true, just was in response to your ignorant iphone comment as well as the learn to read comment. Stop nerd raging for a minute, how hard is it to answer the questions? I already made a comment on the cm10.1 in my op.....all of the stuff you listed in your comment i already did... I asked what is next? What do you think the future dev is? Will this actually have a strong dev following? Will there be any decent , stable, overclocked, tweaked roms to come to this phone.
Thank you for finally giving me a little more of an answer than a mean spirited remark. I am no idiot, i did not post anywhere in this forum newb questions on how to root my lg, or unlock it, or flash a recovery, or install a rom..... I wanted to know what is really going on with this phone. So thank you joe for actually answering my questions.
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Wish I had better news. We are all eagerly and (in)patiently waiting for the first release of non-stock roms. Unfortunately, it's just a waiting game. Right now it's LG's move and they are taking their sweet little time. We do have a strong dev following. They are lurking in the shadows. We are very fortunate that we have both an international version of this phone and also the Nexus 4. That gives us two pools where ROMs can be ported from. Just like the Nexus S, i9000, and Samsung Captivate. All of which are still going strong. It took time to get things setup for those phones and like I said we are at a disadvantage because LG isn't as "helpful" as Samsung. Development will take off one way or another, we just have to wait.
IMHO though, nobody should be complaining because stock LG is amazing. And the stock ROMs are perfect.
Dude....
Your entire post sounds like one big vagina monologue.
"There is not enough dev support for this phone..... I can't believe we don't have a stable JB ROM..... I want to flash a new rom every day....."
Waaa waaa waaa :crying::crying::crying::crying:
No one is intimidating you.
Just making the point that you obviously did not act like a rational consumer by purchasing a product that does not meet your expectations, then complain about it in the QA section.
Not sure why you needed to create this thread. Return the phone and get something else if you aren't happy with it. It's not rocket science, lol.
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Oh look, it's this thread again
Guys, settle down please. Let's not turn this into the i777 forums. I'd rather not relive that.
This phone is too powerful to not be developed, but developing for ICS is pointless when JB is coming. There will be much more development. You must just be patient. But in all honesty, Samsung and HTC will probably always have more development, so if you are a flashaholic, I would go with the SIII.
"Ye best start believin' in troll threads... Yer in one."
chrisphoenix7 said:
"Ye best start believin' in troll threads... Yer in one."
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Hahaha! F*****g brilliant!
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gregk232 said:
Hahaha! F*****g brilliant!
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Yes! In before thread closed!:banghead::banghead::banghead:
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They wouldn't close this thread, it has been nothing but honest, intelligent, mature, informative discussion.
But honestly, this has been asked a lot... We are hoping development will pick up after the source is released and JB hits our device.
But there are no guarantees, it is kind of your fault for picking up a device (great as it may be) that doesn't have 20+ ROMs out for it, you should have looked here first and shied away from the device if development was so important.
Based on what we have heard from devs, the work is being done, it is slow going with no source and nobody wants to work on ICS when JB is coming so soon.
Also, one of the biggest problems here, you called what development we have seen released "garbage," most likely (hopefully) the devs can dismiss that statement as the angry rantings of somebody with a bad filter, but it is still terrible motivation to spur development further.
Work has gone into the development we have seen, it may not have quite the shock and awe factor you are looking for, but they are solid works.
It sounded like you were very unappreciative and then demanded more, maybe not your intention, but that is how it can be construed.
I'm not trying to bash you in any way, but the community does better when there is less... negativity.
Also, no need to be so defensive, you knew you would get the responses you did, should have just let them slide.
chrisphoenix7 said:
Guys, settle down please. Let's not turn this into the i777 forums. I'd rather not relive that.
This phone is too powerful to not be developed, but developing for ICS is pointless when JB is coming. There will be much more development. You must just be patient. But in all honesty, Samsung and HTC will probably always have more development, so if you are a flashaholic, I would go with the SIII.
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dood i agree the i777 forums was a nightmare with all the immaturity attitude around
I get the feeling OP is the kind of guy that complains when he gets free stuff.
As for getting a new phone, good riddance. You really didn't need to make this thread. A lot of us are waiting on custom ROMs and CM10 and all that. You don't see us whining about it like a little girl (no offense ladies )