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Hello there!
I'm a n00b at this, and I just managed to flash a custom kernel on my Optimus one. (I needed it for overclocking)
I was wondering, what the most stable Gingerbread ROM is, for the Optimus one right now? I heard the unofficial CM7 ROM is a bit unstable
Also, can anyone give me instructions on how to use the ROM? Can I use ROM Manager?
Or should I boot into the clockwork mod recovery and flash zips from there?
Thanks in advance!
Go to this link:
http://www.megaupload.com/?f=XGKNWZQJ
look for CWM 3.1.0.0, flash it ( I didnt use Rom Manager)
than look for CM7, wipe dalvik/wipe everything, than flash that rom....it's not to bad of a rom
1.All roms based on official 2.3.3 are stable,while cm7 roms have some minor bugs.
2.Rom manager is a tool to install clockworkmod recovery directly.
3.now u can flash zip from cwm.
Thanks a lot for the replies folks!
I'll try out the official 2.3.3 ROM now.
What about Megatron? I know it's froyo, but the performance is supposed to be top notch Is it stable enough?
And another n00b question, don't mind,
If I flash any of these ROMs, official 2.3.3 or CM7 or Megatron, do I retain root access?
sp1408 said:
Thanks a lot for the replies folks!
I'll try out the official 2.3.3 ROM now.
What about Megatron? I know it's froyo, but the performance is supposed to be top notch Is it stable enough?
And another n00b question, don't mind,
If I flash any of these ROMs, official 2.3.3 or CM7 or Megatron, do I retain root access?
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Go to the link that Jrhodes85 gave you and download both ClockworkMod 3.1.0.0 and AmonRA 2.2.1a, since you'll need to switch from one to the other depending on the ROM that you want to flash. As a very general rule older ROMs (like Megatron or LOL) need AmonRA, whereas newer ROMs (most 2.2.2 and 2.3.x based ROMs) will need ClockWorkMod (still you have to check the specific ROM post as they usually specify which recovery you need). Remember that these recoveries are ZIP-flashable, meaning that you can switch from one to the other simply by flashing from recovery (that is, you can be using Clockworkmod and flash AmonRA using the flash zip option and once you reboot into recovery you'll have your new recovery and viceversa).
I've tried most of the ROMs around here (except the 2.3's) and for me the most stable/better battery life is definitely LOL 1.4.2, still the best way to know is test them yourself (as every user is different).
Regarding the "root access" question if you flash any of the unofficial 2.3.x you'll keep root access, the only way that I think you'll lose root access is if you flash an official LG ROM. Keep in mind that that process is different since you won't be using a custom recovery but a tool called KDZ. I would advice to go that way only when you feel pretty comfortable flashing unofficial ROMs back and forth.
The other thing to keep in mind is that for ROMs "based" on the official 2.3.3 code there's an additional step that involves flashing a new "baseband" (this doesnt applies if you just want to flash any of the unofficial 2.3.4 ROMs like Andy's or Mik's CM7). The baseband flashing involves additional tools to the custom recovery so proceed with caution.
So if I flash any kind of stock Gingerbread ROM, I'll have to do the baseband?
(Is there and "unofficial stock Gingerbread ROM", without bugs? I wouldn't know )
So if I use kdz and flash an official Gingerbread ROM, I'll lose recovery and root right?
Can I use ROM Manager to get the CM7 mod or Megatron or the stock GB? Or should I flash from cwm?
sp1408 said:
So if I flash any kind of stock Gingerbread ROM, I'll have to do the baseband?
(Is there and "unofficial stock Gingerbread ROM", without bugs? I wouldn't know )
So if I use kdz and flash an official Gingerbread ROM, I'll lose recovery and root right?
Can I use ROM Manager to get the CM7 mod or Megatron or the stock GB? Or should I flash from cwm?
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See below. Other than that, all of this has been answered about zillion times.
http://goo.gl/HJ2Gw
But what about ROM Manager? Can I use it to flash CM7 or Megatron?
And I have cwm installed. I've done a backup with it. Is this enough? how is it different from a Nandroid backup?
Also, is it necessary to partition my sd card for the same? Or can I move apps to it later on, by some other means?
(Pardon me, this is the first ROM I'm flashing )
Please read the dictionary and faq. Your questions have been answered previously. But, you don't need rom manager if you already have cwm. You also don't need to partition your sd card if you don't want to use a2sd/data2sd.
You will also need titanium for apps backup. There are other apps for contacts and messages backup.
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All of them are somewhat unstable, or buggy, but so is the official stock firmware I say CM7 6.5.5.
I know by unlocking it we can install custom Roms but
1. Are there any other benefits?
2. Are Roms for unlocked boatloaders better than those for locked ones??
3. Hear a lot that cyanogenmod & MIUI are for unlocked boatloaders & they are great
But also hear that CM is laggy & MIUI has Chinese parts in it
Is it true??
4. Both CM & MIUI have camera problems also
Can we fix them??
I mean can it be made to work again??
5. How do u unlock boatloader?
Plz if someone could answer my questions it would be nice
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A definate pro is the vast amount of custom roms that would otherwise won't work on locked ie, miui, cyanogen and faster overclocked custom kernel ie doomkernel also the cm Roms on locked kernel is more or less lag free and much more fluid than stock roms and oodies miui is flawless and lag free
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5.Look at the stickies guide by Crowds.
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Hi,
1/ The main benefits, i think, is taht you can install another kernel... DooMKerneL, ThKernel, KcKernel... once you did it, the recovery mode is always here, you can always make a backup, install a zip via Xrecovery or CWM... etc...
2/ The roms are the same but you may have less problem because the kernel is not bypassed...
3/ Don't know, but if so much people use them, it may be because they are great roms... You also have FeraLab Rom, DiXperia Rom, DonutHD Rom, X10S by Championswimmer and others...
4/ You just have to wait they fix the pb... the roms based on stock one don't have this kind of pb
5/ You have a search button ... Anyway i'm in a good mood look at the Flashtool guide by Crowds in my signature...
Hi I would like to ask whether rooting the phone is the same as unlocking bootloader. Thanks!
No, it's not.
Rooting allows you to view and edit system files.
Unlocking the bootloader allows you to install custom (non-official) kernels.
So rooting my phone and unlocking the bootloader is 2 different issue?
Or does rooting my phone actually unlocks my bootloader as well?
Rooting does not unlock bootloader.
Unlocking bootloader can help root your phone (installing a pre-rooted kernel, for example).
Is it then possible to install a custom firmware without unlocking the bootloader or will there be problems if I install a custom firmware without unlocking the bootloader.
These two custom ROMs are the only ones that can be installed without unlocking the bootloader.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705255
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1578109
OK THANKS! SHALL GO CHECK IT OUT And can I ask, does the phone by itself already have a kernel? If it has, what is the use of installing another one?
Stock ROMs have their stock kernels.
Custom kernels can add some features, such as (for example) the chance to overclock the CPU. Almost every custom ROM needs a custom kernel to work properly.
Feanor88 said:
Stock ROMs have their stock kernels.
Custom kernels can add some features, such as (for example) the chance to overclock the CPU. Almost every custom ROM needs a custom kernel to work properly.
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Wrong. Custom ROMs do not need custom kernel to *function or work properly*.
The custom ROMs are installed at the Read Only Memory of your phone.
For that, you need to use an installer which has to be somewhere outside the Read Only Memory. Only such location on your phone is the kernel. So a custom kernel does nothing but adds an installer outside the Read Only Memory (that is the CWM Recovery).
Now to intall a kernel, you need an installer outside of your Read Only Memory as well as the kernel. That's the PC, and the installer is Flashtool. So, flashtool is used to install custom kernels on your phone.
Note: The two ROMs which can be installed on locked bootloaders are exceptions to this rule.
Thanks,
Rick
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If it were like you said, any custom kernel could work with any custom ROM, as long as it has a Recovery to flash the ROM. There are different custom kernels because there are different ROMs, and each custom ROM works only with one or more custom kernels, but not with everyone. If you were right, one single kernel with recovery would be usable for every custom ROM.
Feanor88 said:
If it were like you said, any custom kernel could work with any custom ROM, as long as it has a Recovery to flash the ROM. There are different custom kernels because there are different ROMs, and each custom ROM works only with one or more custom kernels, but not with everyone. If you were right, one single kernel with recovery would be usable for every custom ROM.
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Yea. It would be. Infact it is.
However, ROMs like CM9, which are NOT based on the stock ROM will not be able to work on the stock kernel. It will require a kernel which has been designed specifically for CM9. On the other hand, we had seen MiniCMSandwich, which looks like CM, but is based on stock ROM. This will work on any kernel that has a custom recovery. MESA, Rage, X, Stock Exteneded and so on...
So, to put it in other words, suppose you plan to flash an HTC Phone ROM as it came in the HTC device on your Xperia Device. You plan to just change the drivers. You will need a kernel which is designed for the HTC ROM.
But, if you, on the other hand, start with the Xperia ROM and change the aspects of this ROM into the HTC ROM's, you can make the ROM work on any of MESA, X, Rage or extended.
Thanks,
Rick
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DragonClawsAreSharp said:
Yea. It would be. Infact it is.
However, ROMs like CM9, which are NOT based on the stock ROM will not be able to work on the stock kernel. It will require a kernel which has been designed specifically for CM9. On the other hand, we had seen MiniCMSandwich, which looks like CM, but is based on stock ROM. This will work on any kernel that has a custom recovery. MESA, Rage, X, Stock Exteneded and so on...
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Stock extended, yeah. Try to run MiniCMSandwich on Gingerbread stock extended kernel. Will it work? Of course not. All the kernels you named are based on stock ICS kernel, so it's simple to run ICS based ROMs on them. This doesn't mean that every kernel with recovery can make them work
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Stock extended, yeah. Try to run MiniCMSandwich on Gingerbread stock extended kernel. Will it work? Of course not. All the kernels you named are based on stock ICS kernel, so it's simple to run ICS based ROMs on them. This doesn't mean that every kernel with recovery can make them work
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Stock GB is to Stock ICS is same as Stock Xperia ICS is to Stock HTC ICS. They are different ROMs. Completely.
The ROMs have instructions according to which it behaves with the kernel. These instructions are all same for kernels that are based on stock ICS. So if you want to try any ROM that is based on stock ICS and such kernel will do.
But CM, GB, HTC ROMs and so on, are completely different.
Say you want to port an HTC ROM to Xperia ICS. You can do the following (I am taking example of the bootanimation file)
1. Simply change the bootanimation.zip file at /system/media of the stock ICS ROM.
So your ROM is based on the stock ROM itself. You just change the files, not the way the files are accessed. You do not even change the way the kernel is accessed. So any kernel based on stock ICS *with recovery* will do.
2. Change the whole Read Only Memory Partition.
This makes all the files replaced, the way HTC has made the ROM. This time you will need a kernel *again with recovery*, built to be accessed by the very specific ROM.
Thanks,
Rick
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i been trying to install [ROM] MiniCM7Pro on my x10 mini pro but i get stuck on a black screen everytime, can some one guide me here please.
This are the steps i get right
my phone its successfully rooted, i also manage to unlock the bootloader, and install CWM.
but then i get confused installing the kernel and the ROM,
i installed Fa Kernel 01a FIX with flashtool but then when my phone boots up it gets stuck in a black screen
what am i doin wrong?
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i been trying to install [ROM] MiniCM7Pro on my x10 mini pro but i get stuck on a black screen everytime, can some one guide me here please.
This are the steps i get right
my phone its successfully rooted, i also manage to unlock the bootloader, and install CWM.
but then i get confused installing the kernel and the ROM,
i installed Fa Kernel 01a FIX with flashtool but then when my phone boots up it gets stuck in a black screen
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MiniCM7Pro will only run on the stock kernel, there was no need to unlock your bootloader, and most certainly not to install a custom kernel. Get back to stock kernel (I think there's a link provided for a kernel you can flash with flashtool) and then run MiniCM7Pro.
SmG67 said:
MiniCM7Pro will only run on the stock kernel, there was no need to unlock your bootloader, and most certainly not to install a custom kernel. Get back to stock kernel (I think there's a link provided for a kernel you can flash with flashtool) and then run MiniCM7Pro.
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thanks for the help,
i will try to fly the rom straight with the stock kernel,
i have a question, when im i install this kind of roms do i always need to install the kernel first?
83RN15 said:
thanks for the help,
i will try to fly the rom straight with the stock kernel,
i have a question, when im i install this kind of roms do i always need to install the kernel first?
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No, the order doesn't really matter, but your phone will only work if you pair the right kernel and the right rom together. The ROM post will state which kernel it will run on.
so for:
MiniCM7Pro - Stock Kernel
MiniCM7 - nAa-13 Gingerbread kernel
ArcMiniNxt - Just about every kernel
MiniCM9 - nAa-04 ICS kernel
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No, the order doesn't really matter, but your phone will only work if you pair the right kernel and the right rom together. The ROM post will state which kernel it will run on.
so for:
MiniCM7Pro - Stock Kernel
MiniCM7 - nAa-13 Gingerbread kernel
ArcMiniNxt - Just about every kernel
MiniCM9 - nAa-04 ICS kernel
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Thank you very much!!!
that was very helpfull.
in your opinion which rom do you think i should go for? i want to try gingerbread for the moment..
the main reason i rooted my phone was cause i wanted to be able to use apps2sd app
83RN15 said:
Thank you very much!!!
that was very helpfull.
in your opinion which rom do you think i should go for? i want to try gingerbread for the moment..
the main reason i rooted my phone was cause i wanted to be able to use apps2sd app
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Just about all roms that state they're based on CyanogenMod (CM) include App2SD by default, all you have to do it activate it in settings.
ArcMiniNxt is a Gingerbread ROM with a sony ericsson framework, so it will look and work a bit like the original firmware, but based on Gingerbread, and it will run on the stock kernel. It seems smooth and easy on battery-life.
MiniCM7 is sort of the 'default' ROM to go for if you want Android look-and-feel, it is further developed than MiniCM7Pro, but you will need the nAa-gingerbread kernel for it. It is also very smooth and fast.
Mind you, nothing is perfect, you can expect some problems with your keyboard layout and keyboard lights on all Gingerbread ROMS, but there are fixes for that if you care to search through the x10minipro development forum
SmG67 said:
Just about all roms that state they're based on CyanogenMod (CM) include App2SD by default, all you have to do it activate it in settings.
ArcMiniNxt is a Gingerbread ROM with a sony ericsson framework, so it will look and work a bit like the original firmware, but based on Gingerbread, and it will run on the stock kernel. It seems smooth and easy on battery-life.
MiniCM7 is sort of the 'default' ROM to go for if you want Android look-and-feel, it is further developed than MiniCM7Pro, but you will need the nAa-gingerbread kernel for it. It is also very smooth and fast.
Mind you, nothing is perfect, you can expect some problems with your keyboard layout and keyboard lights on all Gingerbread ROMS, but there are fixes for that if you care to search through the x10minipro development forum
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i just installed MiniCM7Pro, rebooted the phone and its now stuck on that android motion logo :S is this normal?
edit: NVM it is normal ahha.. xD i now have it perfectly installed im in love with its interface. i now have to get use to it.
So, I'm a pretty average custom rom user of an x10a.
I've flashed and tweaked out with several gingerbread roms, without any issues.
Recently I found about the newer 4.1.2 roms for the x10 from late December. And I was wondering, 'cause I want to update to one of those, I understand that they're flashed in the same way 2.3 roms are. But, my xRecovery is the 3.0 gingerbread ready version. So I don't know if it will work at all after I've installed one of the Jelly Bean roms.
So I'm kindly asking anybody who knows on the forum if it will still work after I flash to 4.1.2. 'Cause I'm not certain which rom of the two I found is better for me. And I want to test them both out, but of that of course I'd need xRecovery working.
In short I'm just asking for a y/n answer on will xRecovery for the Xperia x10 work after I've installed a 4.1 custom rom, or will I have to go back to stock 2.3.3 and re-root and unlock my bootloader again?
Big thanks to anybody who replies This is the first post I made here, and probably the only one I'll never need.
Nebri said:
So, I'm a pretty average custom rom user of an x10a.
I've flashed and tweaked out with several gingerbread roms, without any issues.
Recently I found about the newer 4.1.2 roms for the x10 from late December. And I was wondering, 'cause I want to update to one of those, I understand that they're flashed in the same way 2.3 roms are. But, my xRecovery is the 3.0 gingerbread ready version. So I don't know if it will work at all after I've installed one of the Jelly Bean roms.
So I'm kindly asking anybody who knows on the forum if it will still work after I flash to 4.1.2. 'Cause I'm not certain which rom of the two I found is better for me. And I want to test them both out, but of that of course I'd need xRecovery working.
In short I'm just asking for a y/n answer on will xRecovery for the Xperia x10 work after I've installed a 4.1 custom rom, or will I have to go back to stock 2.3.3 and re-root and unlock my bootloader again?
Big thanks to anybody who replies This is the first post I made here, and probably the only one I'll never need.
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copy your choice of rom, ics/jb into your sd card. install the appropriate kernel via flashtool. all ics/jb kernels includes CWM so you should have no problem installing these roms granted that you have unlocked bootloader.
mrd7rs said:
copy your choice of rom, ics/jb into your sd card. install the appropriate kernel via flashtool. all ics/jb kernels includes CWM so you should have no problem installing these roms granted that you have unlocked bootloader.
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Well, yeah, I know that, thanks ^^" but, I guess my post was too long for the question to be understandable. I was actually asking if xRecovery will still work fine After I've installed an ICS/JB rom. Surprised somebody replied so quickly o.o thanks.
Nebri said:
Well, yeah, I know that, thanks ^^" but, I guess my post was too long for the question to be understandable. I was actually asking if xRecovery will still work fine After I've installed an ICS/JB rom. Surprised somebody replied so quickly o.o thanks.
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Oh, oh, sorry! WOW, I need to focus when reading! I'm really sorry! Thanks for the help good to know. :good:
It can be done, but it depends on which kernel you flash.
Some kernels only contain CWM, while others contain xRecovery and CWM.
But you can always flash a kernel that has xRecovery (Like Doomkernel of ferkernel 3.6), and thus you have xRecovery.
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It can be done, but it depends on which kernel you flash.
Some kernels only contain CWM, while others contain xRecovery and CWM.
But you can always flash a kernel that has xRecovery (Like Doomkernel of ferkernel 3.6), and thus you have xRecovery.
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Thank you, glad to see that the community here is always willing to help!
Tried both of the roms today, and it worked like a charm! Neat that I didn't know each kernel came with custom recovery images.
Thank you for the help Cheers mate!
Ultimategeppie said:
It can be done, but it depends on which kernel you flash.
Some kernels only contain CWM, while others contain xRecovery and CWM.
But you can always flash a kernel that has xRecovery (Like Doomkernel of ferkernel 3.6), and thus you have xRecovery.
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Hi
Can flash ICS/JB rom using xrecovery in Doomkernel? Thanks
I'm not sure mate, I don't think Doomlord's kernel is compatible with anything but 2.3, but don't take my word on it.
IDreadman said:
Hi
Can flash ICS/JB rom using xrecovery in Doomkernel? Thanks
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What you must understand is that a Rom comes with some installation scripts. CWM and xRecovery will able or not to understand those scripts.
In order to be able to flash a ICS or JB rom from xRecovery it means that the rom has to been prepared to be flashed thanks to xRecovery.
The Recovery "manager" are provided with the kernels, so there shouldn't be anything to ask about xRecovery or CWM regarding Roms,
just flash the kernel that works with your rom and you'll get the correct recovery to install the ROM from.
The only exception is that on some phone, the CM10 kernel doesn't want to go into recovery before flashing CM10 Rom (happened to me when coming from stock gb), so you have to flash CM9 kernel, install CM10 rom and reflash CM10 kernel.
The question of xRecovery and CWM is more when you try to flash some libraries after the installation of the Rom.
So regarding this question, there's no ICS or JB roms (that I know of) that have a xRecovery scripts.