Will this phone work properly on Fido's 3G network? Does someone have this phone running on Fido's 3G network? I've heard you need to change the phone's APN settings. Can someone give me some clarification?
S2:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
Fido:
The Fido network runs on GSM 1900 and offers coverage in major urban areas in Canada. It has been so since its inception. After Microcell was purchased by Rogers, the Fido network was available to Rogers customers. The Rogers GSM network operates at 850 MHz, and while a fee was previously required for Fido customers to access the Rogers network, this is no longer the case. The end result is that both Fido and Rogers customers can now access and use either network or both with a single account, device and SIM card. Regardless of which network is accessed, Fido customers will see "Fido" as the network name, and Rogers customers will see "Rogers" as the network name.
Similarly, HSPA+ service is available in 850 MHz and 1900 MHz frequencies. The maximum theoretical download speed is of 21 Mbit/s. Fido customers should also be able to access Rogers' LTE network shortly after it becomes available as of 2011 in Ottawa, Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver.
sharp2G said:
Will this phone work properly on Fido's 3G network? Does someone have this phone running on Fido's 3G network? I've heard you need to change the phone's APN settings. Can someone give me some clarification?
S2:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
Fido:
The Fido network runs on GSM 1900 and offers coverage in major urban areas in Canada. It has been so since its inception. After Microcell was purchased by Rogers, the Fido network was available to Rogers customers. The Rogers GSM network operates at 850 MHz, and while a fee was previously required for Fido customers to access the Rogers network, this is no longer the case. The end result is that both Fido and Rogers customers can now access and use either network or both with a single account, device and SIM card. Regardless of which network is accessed, Fido customers will see "Fido" as the network name, and Rogers customers will see "Rogers" as the network name.
Similarly, HSPA+ service is available in 850 MHz and 1900 MHz frequencies. The maximum theoretical download speed is of 21 Mbit/s. Fido customers should also be able to access Rogers' LTE network shortly after it becomes available as of 2011 in Ottawa, Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver.
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Hey guys, I just got my new HTC hero. I'm with AT&T now and having the unlimited 3G data plan. I setup the configurations of APN settings as following:
Access point: wap.cingular
Username: [email protected]
Password: CINGULAR1
But I only see an "E" at the connection status which I believe indicates EDGE. Can anyone tell me how to get 3G work on this device?
Thanks a lot!!!
I didn't realise the hero was out in the us yet but if it is i don't know why and if it isn't out its because i don't think it surpports american 3g networks i think you can only get 2g.
Yes I got this phone out of the US.
So you mean there's no way at all to get 3G to work on this phone with AT&T or any other carriers?
In its current state the phone does not support the AT&T bands for 3g.
There are rumors of an AT&T version coming October 11th, that would support 3g.
European/Asian version of this phone does not work with US 3G. AT&T's 3G network requires the bands 850 & 1900, while T-mobile's 3G requires the bands 1700 & 2100. European/Asian version supports only the bands 900 & 2100.
Does this mean T-mobile 3G may work on this phone?
T-Mob's 3g should connect to this phone, if you could find a signal, haha.
http://www.androidauthority.com/index.php/2009/07/03/htc-hero-approved-by-the-fcc-with-att-3g/
Neither T-Mobile US nor AT&T will work with this phone for 3G. The only version of this phone that exists at the moment supports ONLY European 3G. There are rumors of the device coming to AT&T, but nothing confirmed. IF that happens, the new phones would work, but that wouldn't change the fact that the device you have will still only function on Edge.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but it's true.
It's actually Sprint pal. Also, there was a picture for Tmobile also (this appears to be a rumor).
T-Mob uses the 2100 spectrum so i dont see why it wouldnt work.
And a CDMA and a GSM (With AT&T 3g bands) has gone through the FCC recently.
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T-Mob uses the 2100 spectrum so i dont see why it wouldnt work.
And a CDMA and a GSM (With AT&T 3g bands) has gone through the FCC recently.
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No, it won't work with t-mobile USA's 3G network.
Yes, T-mobile in Europe use the 2100 band for 3G so the Hero works. But T-mobile USA use 1700 and 2100 bands for 3G, and you need a phone that support BOTH bands to connect to its 3G network.
Unfortunately, unless T-mobile USA decides to carry this phone (and they have already said that they wouldn't), there won't be a version of Hero that support its 3G network. This is because T-mobile USA is the only carrier in the world that uses the 1700 band for 3G. You may ask why T-mobile uses different bands for 3G in different countries. This is more of a regulatory decision than a business decision. If you are interested, go read about those FCC spectrum auctions.
All in all, European/Asian version of the Hero won't work with any 3G network in the US. The product id of the European/Asian Hero is HERO100, it supports only the bands 900 and 2100 for 3G. There will be a North American version with product id HERO130 that supports the bands 850 and 1900. It will be released either on AT&T or on the Canadian carrier Rogers, because only these two carriers use these bands for 3G. Currently it is not know whether it will be on AT&T or Rogers, but that latter is more likely IMO. Finally, there will be a CDMA version, with product id HERO200, for Sprint. This is more or less confirmed to be coming in October.
T-mobile US 3G uses 1700 for down and 2100 mhz for uplink. So 2100 alone isn't enough as you need both directions to connect.
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No, it won't work with t-mobile USA's 3G network.
Yes, T-mobile in Europe use the 2100 band for 3G so the Hero works. But T-mobile USA use 1700 and 2100 bands for 3G, and you need a phone that support BOTH bands to connect to its 3G network.
Unfortunately, unless T-mobile USA decides to carry this phone (and they have already said that they wouldn't), there won't be a version of Hero that support its 3G network. This is because T-mobile USA is the only carrier in the world that uses the 1700 band for 3G. You may ask why T-mobile uses different bands for 3G in different countries. This is more of a regulatory decision than a business decision. If you are interested, go read about those FCC spectrum auctions.
All in all, European/Asian version of the Hero won't work with any 3G network in the US. The product id of the European/Asian Hero is HERO100, it supports only the bands 900 and 2100 for 3G. There will be a North American version with product id HERO130 that supports the bands 850 and 1900. It will be released either on AT&T or on the Canadian carrier Rogers, because only these two carriers use these bands for 3G. Currently it is not know whether it will be on AT&T or Rogers, but that latter is more likely IMO. Finally, there will be a CDMA version, with product id HERO200, for Sprint. This is more or less confirmed to be coming in October.
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Thanks! That was very informative, although it totally crushed my dreams of owning a Hero while remaining on the T-Mobile network.
I have a brand new unlocked Streak with an AT&T sim card in it, from my old lg vu. All I have is just the calling plan. I want to get a no contract unlimited plan to get online, etc., since I now have this beautiful new phone. Which carriers can I use and which are the cheapest? AT&T's data plan seems too pricy. Thanx, in advance, for the help...
Your only alternative to AT&T is T-Mobile, and if your phone was bought direct from Dell, it will be a very painful alternative in terms of speed. Streaks purchased direct from Dell cannot see all of T-Mobile's frequencies, and thus data will be limited to EDGE (2G) speeds.
Bite the bullet and get an AT&T smartphone plan. Even though T-Mobile has an unlimited everything plan, the penalty you pay in speed offsets any savings you might gain from changing carriers.
Carrier, Network
I bought my Streak off of Ebay from someone in Canada. It was brand new from Rogers. I unlocked it through Dell. Does this make a difference? I have seen unlimited plans from Boost Mobile and Straight Talk and was curious if my Streak would work on their networks. I read on another site that the unlocked Streak would work on any network. Just looking for other info... Thanx.
Unlocked GSM type phones will generally work on any GSM type network.
Boost mobile is a CDMA type network and straight talk is by tracfone? Straight talk might work depending on the donor phone (or if you can get a bare sim card)
Rogers is basically the At&t of the north in the way they handle the streak, and more importantly in compability between phones.
They're both 3g 850/1900
Tmobile is 1700.
The US streak is 850/1900/2100 (which is the one offered by the dell website/rogers/at&t)
straight talk uses verizon/at&t/tmobile as it's base network(?)
You'll get call/2g off either tmo's or at&t's networks and straight talk if it uses their network for coverage.
You wont get 3g except on the at&t 3g available portions of the network.
You cant use boost mobile at all if it's only CDMA, only if they offer GSM service on top of CDMA
TheManii... Thanx for the reply and the help. At least now I have a starting point. I am really new to all this and any help and advice is really welcomed and appreciated. Keep the info coming... Thanx again.
Unlocked Tmobile phone, ST sim
Hello, noob here... This is the closest thread I've found to my problem after extensive searching, and not being "senior" enough to post on more experienced threads. My issue: I have an unlocked Tmobile branded Moto Defy. Put the sim from my Straight Talk E71 in there, and, as many have said before, I only get edge speeds. I've read other forums of people claiming to pick up the HSPDA 850 band, but would have to travel hundreds of miles from SC to actually prove that. My real question here is, why can't my truly quad band Defy pick up the same exact HSPDA 850 / 1900 bands that my Straight talk Nokia E71 was picking up? Do I have to root it? Can you explain why exactly it doesn't pick up the AT&T 1900 band? Themanii, you seem knowledgeable here. Any info is much appreciated. Thanx.
Here's the info for the two phones:
Defy: 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 2100 HSDPA 1700 / 2100 or HSDPA 850 / 1900
E71: 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 2100 HSDPA 850 / 1900 - American version
info derived from gsmarena.com
Firstly dont bump old threads, to granted this one isnt THAT old.
Which carrier are you on exactly?
If you're on Tmo USA your e71 doesnt support AWS(1700)
If you're using At&t with your AWS defy it doesnt support 1900
Defy = 900/1700/2100 OR 850/1900
E71 = 900/2100 OR 850/1900
Hello,
I currently have US Cellular and i have great service in my area. My girlfriend wants to switch to US Cellular also due to the fact that in our area T-Mobile sucks. She currently has a Vibrant and wants to switch but doesnt want to pay big bucks for another android phone similar to the vibrant. So i suggested unlocking the phone and putting the service on the vibrant. The only problem is i dont think US Cellular uses sim cards. I currently have a samsung acclaim and it does not haev a sim card. So what i was wondering is if i am able to switch my services over to her phone even tho i dont have a sim card?
Thanks in advance,
Jacob
T-Mobile = GSM (digital Antenna digital frequency)
US Cellular = CDMA (Analog frequency with simulated digital properties) TDMA (straight up old school analog, Think... Radio)
CDMA networks keep all your information sever side, whereis a GSM network uses your SIM Card to Identify you.
You should be able to get a phone from any of the following Carriers (as long as it is not imei Locked (reported as stolen)
Sprint CDMA/PCS 1900, 2100
Verizon CDMA 800, 1900, 2100
Alltel CDMA 800, 1900
Regional Carriers Technology Bands
Metro PCS CDMA 800, 1900
U.S. Cellular CDMA 800, 1900
Edge Wireless CDMA 800, 1900
more information
U.S. Cellular is a large multi-regional carrier offering service in 155 markets - in 26 states - across the country. The company primarily uses CDMA technology, and also provides legacy TDMA service. Most coverage is cellular-band (800 MHz), with some PCS (1900 MHz) areas in the Central region.
(so what this means is check your local area for Coverage and make sure the CDMA phone you purchase supports BOTH 800/1900 Frequencies.
I have the HTC Radar 4G on T-Mobile. Once I unlock it and use it on At&T, it will definitely do calls, but will it pick up 3G or 4G on the AT&T network? I asked HTC and they were unsure. Thanks!
Do a search in this forum to find your answer.
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AT&T uses 850 MHz / 1900 MHz for GSM/GPRS/EDGE and the same two frequencies (850 / 1900) for UMTS/HSPA (their 3G/4G service).
T-Mobile uses the same frequencies (850 / 1900) for GSM/GPRS/EDGE, but uses 2100 MHz and 1700 MHz for UMTS/HSPA/AWS (their 3G / 4G network).
If you want to know what phones will work where, compare the frequencies they receive with those of the carrier you want to use.
In the case of the Radar, it uses the following frequencies
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850 MHz; 900 MHz; 1800 MHz; 1900 MHz
UMTS/HSPA: 1700 MHz; 2100 MHz
So, for GSM phone calls and data you have a match with AT&T (and, of course with T-Mobile). 3G / 4G is a different story. The Radar has the T-Mobile 3G/4g bands, but not the bands for high-speed data on AT&T.
So, if you are happy just making phone calls and using EDGE data, then you can use the phone on AT&T. If you want 3G /4G as well you have to stick with T-Mobile.
bleh bleh +10
I finally was able to get the h2O SIM card (AT&T service) and surprisingly it picks up 3G! I definitely notice the difference from when it goes from 2G up to the 3G speeds
http://www.htc.com/us/products/radar4g-tmobile?view=1-1&sort=0#tech-specs
Apparently. It says it does 2100/1900/1700/850
*T-Mobile only uses 1700/1900 bands. source
Interesting! I took my specs from the T-Mobile page which omits the UMTS 850/1900 band. Thanks for the correction.
The box clearly states GSM 850/900/1900/2100 AND HSPA/UMTS: 1700/1900/2100
AWS 1700 = T-Mobile, Wind, Mobilicity
UMTS 1900 = AT&T (although they use 850 extensively too), Rogers, Telus, etc
UMTS 2100 = Asia/Europe
My Radar picks up AT&T 3G. Not sure if UMTS 1900 band will be omnipresent on AT&T as a lot have been extended with HSPA 850 as well.
So, whereever you find UMTS 1900, you'll definitely catch AT&T 3G
Hope this helps.
So, will this work with the medianet plan?
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So, will this work with the medianet plan?
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YES!! Gets 6M downloads, 1.5M uploads.
I have looked for days now across multiple forums to get some insight on this issue:
I want to use my Thunderbolt in Thailand. Haven't found any threads that speak of success, only conjecture that it won't work.
Homework I've done (unless i understand it incorrectly):
- Verizon 3G operates on the 850 / 1900 mhz cdma band. Radio Frequency Summary
" The following is a list of known frequencies which Verizon employs in the United States:
Frequencies used on the Verizon Network
Frequency Protocol Class
850 MHz 1xRTT/EV-DO/eHRPD 3G
1900 MHz 1xRTT/EV-DO/eHRPD 3G
700 MHz LTE 4G
1700/2100 MHz(AWS) LTE 4G"
- Truemove, a popular mobile company in Thailand has early links to Verizon and their 3G service operates on the 850mhz wcdma band
"What should I do if I want to use TrueMove 3G service but I don’t have a 3G 850 MHz mobile phone?
Basically, it’s not that all mobile phones work on any band. Each 3G compatible mobile phone supports different bands. For example, if you have a 3G 2.1 GHz or 900 MHz or 2G mobile phone, you will not be able to use TrueMove 3G service because TrueMove offers 3G service on 850 MHz band.
If you want to enjoy TrueMove 3G service, it is recommended that you buy a 3G WCDMA 850 MHz mobile phone or visit any True Shops and ask for a 3G compatible mobile phone. True Shops also sell different smartphones that support different mobile platforms e.g. iPhone 3G/3GS, BlackBerry Bold 900/Bold 9700 and Motorola Milestone."
- I spoke with verizon after reading other forums about 'unlocking' thunderbolts and was told that the thunderbolt comes unlocked, so unlocking wouldn't be necessary anyway.
- Lastly, it seems that many people have successfully put a 3G SIM into a 4G SIM slot on there phone and received 3G service.
....So what am I missing? What would prevent me from being able to use my Thunderbolt in Thailand for simple 3G service if the carrier (Truemove) works on cdma based bands? What extra might I have to do to get it to work?
PS: Sorry I can't insert the links directly in the post. Not allowed since this is my first post.
Thanks for any help