As the title says I haven't seen anyone actually test the battery for a couple days, it's usually review and move on.
So how is it?
Well it hasn't been mentioned so it probably isn't worse than we expect it to be.
Also interested to know. Of course since this will be the first few days people have it, they'll be using it a ton so it may not be the best estimate on battery life but I would love to know an idea of how much to expect.
They haven't had time to calabrate yet.
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First charge with heavy use got greater than expected life. I will still buy an extended one, but thats cuz i hate charging. 7 hours of heavy use on 3g only.
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7 hours of heavy use isn't bad. So idling with 4G off probably isn't terrible then. That is what I am most concerned about. Hopefully we will get kernel source and just get some undervolt going.
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7 hours of heavy use isn't bad. So idling with 4G off probably isn't terrible then. That is what I am most concerned about. Hopefully we will get kernel source and just get some undervolt going.
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yeah not to mention that after you root you can flash leaner kernels and ROM's. But we'll have to wait for development to pick up, I really hope we see some good developers here.
So right now it's 1am and I took the phone off of the charger at 8:21 with 85% battery life. It is now at 47% with some steady texting, exchange activesync, some web browsing, and a 7 minute video all on 4g. I'm not sure what to make of that but it seems decent.
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So right now it's 1am and I took the phone off of the charger at 8:21 with 85% battery life. It is now at 47% with some steady texting, exchange activesync, some web browsing, and a 7 minute video all on 4g. I'm not sure what to make of that but it seems decent.
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DAMMIT I WANT!!! 3 more days...
I don't know that I've charged it fully since I got it. It was close to fully charged before I went to a wedding tonight. Lasted all 6 hours or so I was there, but was tuckering out (~20%) by the time I left. But I did spend a bit of time playing with the phone. And 4G was on the whole time. And I turned live wallpaper on, played with my weather and clock widgets, tried to get a wifi connection that wouldn't work, browsed the web a bit.
I recharged on the way home to about 50%, and sitting around playing with it for the last hour to 1.5 hours, it's still at 40%.
If it makes you feel any better, the biggest battery hog was the display, BY FAR. Like 80-something percent to the <20% combined for the other functions. I'll try and remember to post my impressions from my first "normal" day of use tomorrow and let you know how the battery fairs.
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I don't know that I've charged it fully since I got it. It was close to fully charged before I went to a wedding tonight. Lasted all 6 hours or so I was there, but was tuckering out (~20%) by the time I left. But I did spend a bit of time playing with the phone. And 4G was on the whole time. And I turned live wallpaper on, played with my weather and clock widgets, tried to get a wifi connection that wouldn't work, browsed the web a bit.
I recharged on the way home to about 50%, and sitting around playing with it for the last hour to 1.5 hours, it's still at 40%.
If it makes you feel any better, the biggest battery hog was the display, BY FAR. Like 80-something percent to the <20% combined for the other functions. I'll try and remember to post my impressions from my first "normal" day of use tomorrow and let you know how the battery fairs.
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I got mine yesterday and I can say it is about 25-30% better than a rooted thunderbolt....My logic says once rooted we will get really good battery life.
I am a heavy user and I can say I turned off fast boot and bump charged it 3 times on Thursday night. I gave it a heavy use all day on Friday.
Took it off the charger at 10 am around 8 pm I was on 35%. So that was 10 hours of heavy use and still had 35% left. If I was using the rooted bolt I would have been dead around 5:30 and a stock bolt...even sooner.
hope all these battery estimates are true, sounds like this will be my next phone!
Took it off the charger at about 11am today... Was close to 100%, maybe 95%. Just hooked it up to charge about 10 minutes ago (so off charger completely for ~10 hours). It had ~10% battery life left when I hooked it up.
Had Wifi and/or 4G on the entire day, including an hour and a half in a bad service area, where it fought for a bit to find service until I logged into the wifi network. Played about 1 hour worth of Pandora on high quality setting. A couple minutes of 4G Youtube. Tons of tinkering with games and downloading apps and playing around. Screen brightness was set to something like 30%. live wallpaper enabled. Weather and clock widget enabled. Data tracking widget enabled. Did a few seconds of video Skype too. I would say it was consistent use all day, but not necessarily heavy for most of the day.
EDIT: I forgot. One short phone call. I'm sort of a bad guinea pig for battery life on a phone because I really don't make a lot of phone calls. Consider my use representative of someone who uses data during his commute and for texting/games/forum/app usage.
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Took it off the charger at about 11am today... Was close to 100%, maybe 95%. Just hooked it up to charge about 10 minutes ago (so off charger completely for ~10 hours). It had ~10% battery life left when I hooked it up.
EDIT: I forgot. One short phone call. I'm sort of a bad guinea pig for battery life on a phone because I really don't make a lot of phone calls. Consider my use representative of someone who uses data during his commute and for texting/games/forum/app usage.
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I have very similar usage habits. Glad to hear that this seems to have relatively good battery life.
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Had Wifi and/or 4G on the entire day, including an hour and a half in a bad service area, where it fought for a bit to find service until I logged into the wifi network.
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Bad/No service areas will kill a battery so fast. My office is in a windowless reinforced concrete room inside a reinforced windowless room inside a reinforced building. (Yo dawg)
I get no service at all. If I leave the 3g on, phone won't make it past 5 hours. Turn the 3G/WiFi off and battery percent goes down a few points.
I need one!!!
Kellex over a Droid-Life has gotten just over 10 hours of normal usage (all in 4G) for the past couple of days. He also stated he is not a heavy user by any means.
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Seems like it isn't as bad as most thought it would be.
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I remain interested in the phone but undecided due to some really bad hardware failures I have on my Dinc.
While I am very interested in battery life like everyone else, please everyone keep in mind that "how is the battery" is as personal a question as "which radio is the best one to use."
There is no way one person can truly tell you how the battery will be for you. If you sit in an interior office without wifi, and have sync contacts and facebook set for every hour, that ALONE will cause a drain that may not be comparable.
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I remain interested in the phone but undecided due to some really bad hardware failures I have on my Dinc.
While I am very interested in battery life like everyone else, please everyone keep in mind that "how is the battery" is as personal a question as "which radio is the best one to use."
There is no way one person can truly tell you how the battery will be for you. If you sit in an interior office without wifi, and have sync contacts and facebook set for every hour, that ALONE will cause a drain that may not be comparable.
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What does this phone have in common with a year old phone.
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What does this phone have in common with a year old phone.
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Yay, you got another post!
That aside ... just please everyone keep that in mind when making battery life decisions based on what others experience; battery life can be GREATLY impacted by things well outside what programs you might run and how many texts you might send.
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Yay, you got another post!
That aside ... just please everyone keep that in mind when making battery life decisions based on what others experience; battery life can be GREATLY impacted by things well outside what programs you might run and how many texts you might send.
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Yay, so did you.
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I absolutely love everything about my first Android phone, the hardware, software, apps...it's all good...except the battery life. I've tried most everything I've read here to try and maximize it, and I'm still having to break out the charger to get me through the evening.
Coming from BlackBerry, I've been used to having battery life exceeding two days...not that I ever needed to last that long, I always charge each night anyways. I merely want to be able to make it to bedtime each night without having to charge the phone, without having to cripple the features I love about it, and without having to be overly wary of my usage.
Is this dream possible with this, or any Android device?
I've tried the stock ROM, now on UnNamed...tried Juice Defender (got rid of it), SetCPU, Screebl, using Llama to shut off wireless when away from home or work, brightness down low (shame with such a beautiful screen)...and I still average around 7% an hour drain. CPUspy tells me I spend 60% of the time in deep sleep and 15% at 200mhz.
I don't really know what else to try, I want so badly to keep this phone, but don't want to significantly compromise the way I'm used to using my mobile device. I don't play games, I don't watch videos, I use my phone as an information and communications tool...and from that standpoint, this phone is simply awesome, if it would just get me through the day.
I have one week left to try and resolve this...what should be my next step?
It does sound like you're having unusual low battery life, my phone says that it's been 2 days 6 hours since my last charge and I'm still at 30%. If I were you, I would go and try to exchange it and see if maybe they give a little extra time to test out the phone.
See I would be ecstatic with 30% remaining after just one full day...I take the phone off the charger at around 7am, and would prefer not to put it back on a charge until 11pm or later.
I got it from Amazon Wireless, so I'll have to give them a call and see what they say about an exchange...you always run the risk of getting a device with an issue though, and this one is perfect otherwise...
Best of luck resolving this man!
It seems that the drain is only really happening when the screen is on...I can let it sit for awhile, and the battery meter doesn't budge...but I pick it up and start using it and you can practically watch it dropping...
Turn your data off when you're not using it
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So from about 7:30 this morning until around 12:45pm, I dropped about 13%...which is around 2.5% an hour, something I can live with. Although that was with almost no use, screen off most of the time. In the last 45 minutes, I've been using the phone, reading emails, screen on much more, and it's dropped 8% more in just that 45 min period. My screen brightness is about 25%.
That can't be normal, right?
EDIT: Ya know, I'm just going to shut my mouth and enjoy my phone. I put it on the charger at work for the last 30 minutes of my workday today, and I'm at 80% at 8pm...I'm good with that. I'll pick up a couple spare batteries, and with chargers at work and home, I'm all good. I'll keep it as bright as I want it, sync data as often as I want, leave the CPU speed alone, and quit looking at the battery gauge...when I do that, it's a fricken awesome phone.
I was having this problem also, I use juice defender pro, and setcpu. I have juice set up to kill all connections when the phone is sleeping and set it up to where it syncs my facebook/emails every 2hrs, in setcpu you can create custom profiles that allow you to underclock your cpu when its sleeping, charging, certain times of the day/night. Im looking at my phone now and im at 1 day 0h 16 minutes with over half left. If you need some help setting up custom profiles and configuring juice (I recommend redownloading it again.) Shoot me a pm and ill see if I can help you. Good luck
I didn't want to compromise how I use my phone either. Most days I take my phone off the charger at about 7:30. By about the time I come back from lunch 1ish, it usually above 50%, but right around there. I generally plug it in at work for a few hours and generally can get it back to 90+ before going home. The day includes generally 3-4 hours pandora, so I figure that's par for the course. When I had my captivate doing the same thing it was almost dead by noon.
I think I might just be able to make it all day on a singles charge with what I consider heavy use, but its nice never seeing my battery drop below 40. Here's my weekly use, you can see the pattern of small drain, recharge, drain, charge overnight.
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Everytime I think my battery is draining too fast I think back to how long ago the power in my hands wasn't in a computer tower, and I calm down. My phone is an extension of my hand, always being used, I don't expect my friend to starve, and don't feel unreasonable to let him snack mid-day.
For what its worth I am on UnNamed. I used S8 and did not see the giant jump in battery a lot of people claimed, I felt it was the same. I wasn't on stock long enough to really tell. But, I feel you need a week or more to really know, and I didn't last that long on stock.
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What is your screen timeout set at? Anything more than 30 seconds will drain battery excessively. Also, do you keep your screen on when listening to Pandora, or while charging the phone? Those are also a waste of battery.
2.5% per hour when idle its not bad, and losing 8% in 45 minutes with the display on is actually pretty good...
I leave the screen timeout on 1 minute, its too frustrating to me when I am trying to read a webpage or thread and it times out. Maybe I am a slow reader, LOL. 45 seconds would probably work for me, but its not an option in these ROMs. I leave my screen brightness to automatic, and turn off my screen as soon as I start pandora. I do use Bluetooth to listen to pandora, so I bet that doesn't help. I also listen to audiobooks over Bluetooth in the car to and from work. But I did all the same stuff with my captivate. I have started using wifi when at home, but haven't seen a battery impact for that.
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not surprising at all to see your battery drain like that when you use bluetooth so extensively. nothing wrong with bluetooth, but it is definitely going to use up your battery faster - there is a huge difference in battery drain between a regular voice call made with the handset, and a voice call of the same amount of time made in my car via bluetooth - i don't have exact statistics, but i'd say about double the drain. same thing between a wireless bluetooth headset, and a pair of wired headphones.
sounds like you have solved your problem with multiple chargers, but if you wanted to avoid charging in the middle of the day, switching to a wired pair of headphones when listening to all of your pandora would almost certainly do the trick.
Wow, I didn't realize it was so much. I have headphones in my desk at work for computer trainings, but never use them on my phone. Plus I could plug my phone into my car's radio go play over the speakers. I think its a convienience thing more than anything else, not having to unplug for the car when I get to work, nit taking the headphones out to pick up something at the printer.
As you said another charger is a good fix, something I never need on weekends, but I ways attributed that to pandora more than Bluetooth. Definately food for thought. Thanks.
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As far as the screen timeout, I use Screebl and it works great. It senses the position of the phone to know when it's being used and keeps the screen on, then also can tell when the phone has been set down and turns the screen off within seconds. You can manually set the angles and positions so it also works fine when you're reading in bed. Helps with both keeping the screen on for those long emails as well as shutting it down quickly to save a little battery life.
Without a doubt, it's the screen being on that is the primary battery killer on my phone...when it sits idle, regardless of how often data is being used, I'm under 2% per hour drain. When the screen is on, you can practically watch the needle go down, it's crazy.
I do use SetCPU to drop the CPU to 200-500mhz when the screen is off, and to drop to 200-800 when it gets below 30%...aside from that, I'm done trying to optimize. I want to have my email and other notifications come in when they were sent, not an hour or two later. I want to see the great screen in the daylight, not a dimmed version. This is why I bought the phone. All that power requires some juice, so I'm going to make sure I've got extra juice on tap.
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I didn't want to compromise how I use my phone either. Most days I take my phone off the charger at about 7:30. By about the time I come back from lunch 1ish, it usually above 50%, but right around there. I generally plug it in at work for a few hours and generally can get it back to 90+ before going home. The day includes generally 3-4 hours pandora, so I figure that's par for the course. When I had my captivate doing the same thing it was almost dead by noon.
I think I might just be able to make it all day on a singles charge with what I consider heavy use, but its nice never seeing my battery drop below 40. Here's my weekly use, you can see the pattern of small drain, recharge, drain, charge overnight.
Everytime I think my battery is draining too fast I think back to how long ago the power in my hands wasn't in a computer tower, and I calm down. My phone is an extension of my hand, always being used, I don't expect my friend to starve, and don't feel unreasonable to let him snack mid-day.
For what its worth I am on UnNamed. I used S8 and did not see the giant jump in battery a lot of people claimed, I felt it was the same. I wasn't on stock long enough to really tell. But, I feel you need a week or more to really know, and I didn't last that long on stock.
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What is that app you're using?
The SGS II has power drain issues as well? I had the captivate and I could turn it on and watch the battery drain. I'm on Atrix 2 right now and I have zero issues with the battery. Best buy has dropped the price of the SGS II and it's really tempting to switch. Hmm what to do... What to do...
I picked up an Atrix 2 from Best Buy off contract last weekend so I could compare side-by-side with my SGS2, I really wanted the notification LED...but I took the A2 back yesterday. Improved battery life and the weak notification LED couldn't overcome the stark disadvantage in performance and screen quality (in my opinion). Laggy web browser and menu scrolling in comparison and an overly backlit looking screen with little contrast...although if I hadn't already had a couple weeks with the SGS2, I'd have probably been fine with it.
Everyone has different experiences with battery life depending on how they use their phone, you should grab the SGS2 and do a comparison and see what works best for you. Battery life has dropped down my priority list as of late, since I'm using the phone so much more now for every little thing (becasue it's so damn gorgeous), I have to expect to use up some juice.
Yeah I had to install miren browser, go Launcher, and handecnt SMS to change the color of the LED colors. Loving the phone and hopefully we will get an unlocked boot loader. SGS was really easy to root, flash, and OC. Still a bit pissed at AT&T for releasing another SGS II, no reason for doing that. I have a couple of weeks to kick the thought around. If its looking bleak for us A2 users then I'll jump on over to the OG SGS II lol. Screw the skypocketrocketshipboat.
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What is that app you're using?
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Its called device analyzer. Its an app made for data collection about android device useage for the University of Cambridge. It also keeps track of data use, but not as granular.
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I leave the screen timeout on 1 minute, its too frustrating to me when I am trying to read a webpage or thread and it times out. Maybe I am a slow reader, LOL.
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try screebly, that will let you set you timetout to 15s, whiel avoiding the issue you speak of above.
I'm kinda skeptical they are truly 2800mah with the same form factor....
No reviews....
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Ive been using them. Got the 2x battery + charger version. They ard quite good in fact. Beats buying the original for same price of 2 batteries
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Ive been using them. Got the 2x battery + charger version. They ard quite good in fact. Beats buying the original for same price of 2 batteries
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Do you notice the difference in the 2? Like does the qcell with 300mah more make a difference?
I have one; started using it yesterday. Haven't used it enough to notice a difference, but personally I doubt there is one. If it was so easy to fit 300mah (>10%!) extra capacity into a battery, why wouldn't Samsung have done it in the first place? Surely a 2800mah battery would be a better selling point than 2500mah.
I miss that battery testing web site where the guy stress-tested all the aftermarket batteries and showed how basically all of them were massively over-rated.
I have two OEM batteries (got one as part of the awesome Samsung portable battery charger) and I figured for $15 or so the Q-cell was worth trying. One of these days I'll do a run-down test and see if there's a difference. If there is, I'll buy 10 of them and then report back here how great they are.
I *love* this product:
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...03&q_manufacturer=samsung&q_model=prod5530247
It doesn't charge the phone, but you can toss it in a bag, swap batteries mid-day and have enough juice to get through a long evening of speed tests and server management while out on the town.
I've never had a phone die on me mid day.
I've never had hypothermia. Doesn't mean I don't carry a jacket when it's cold out.
My point is that for me, by mid-day my Note is often in the 30-40% range, and if I want to comfortably go for 8-10 more hours it's nice to have a fresh battery so you don't have to think twice about it. It's one thing to be at 5% and getting critical battery warnings at 10pm when you're home on the sofa. It's another to be getting 5% battery warnings when you're out somewhere far from a charger and need to use the phone.
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I've never had hypothermia. Doesn't mean I don't carry a jacket when it's cold out.
My point is that for me, by mid-day my Note is often in the 30-40% range, and if I want to comfortably go for 8-10 more hours it's nice to have a fresh battery so you don't have to think twice about it. It's one thing to be at 5% and getting critical battery warnings at 10pm when you're home on the sofa. It's another to be getting 5% battery warnings when you're out somewhere far from a charger and need to use the phone.
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Mid day its that low? I go through my whole day and by the time I go to bed at 12 its at 40-60%.
Yes. I have 3 email accounts - 1 exchange and 2 IMAP (even though I set the intervals for IMAP to 1 and 2 hours), and I use the phone as a desktop replacement for answering emails, server management, and various other web-intensive functions. I lose 10-20% per hour while in use. Screen on auto brightness. Bluetooth is always on because I use a headset or a car link for voice calls, though I don't make a lot of voice calls. If I did my battery would be dead by noon every day. On voice calls my battery graph drops precipitously.
I am in a fringe LTE area, which I suspect doesn't help. Sometimes I get 1-2 bars of LTE, and most of the time I get 4 bars of non-LTE. Searching for signal and switching back and forth is probably not good for battery. Either that it's the time that it's on LTE that kills it. So I'm resigned to either swapping batteries mid-day or leaving the phone on a charger at various times throughout the day.
Back to the Q-cell battery, tomorrow I will use my other phone for the day and try to run a couple of video loop tests with the Q-cell battery and the OEM battery and see how long each lasts.
Thanks looking forward to the results.
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Back to the Q-cell battery, tomorrow I will use my other phone for the day and try to run a couple of video loop tests with the Q-cell battery and the OEM battery and see how long each lasts.
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Yes please do the test, that would be awesome.
Planning on it...Monday is looking good as ill have some uninterrupted time where the Note can sit on my desk playing movies. I want to run them down as quickly as possible, so I'm planning to turn wifi on, brightness full, fullscreen movie mode. I don't know if running maps in the background or maybe GPS status would help too. Open to suggestions.
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Planning on it...Monday is looking good as ill have some uninterrupted time where the Note can sit on my desk playing movies. I want to run them down as quickly as possible, so I'm planning to turn wifi on, brightness full, fullscreen movie mode. I don't know if running maps in the background or maybe GPS status would help too. Open to suggestions.
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Maybe try this widget?
https://market.android.com/details?id=ccc71.bmw&hl=en
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Planning on it...Monday is looking good as ill have some uninterrupted time where the Note can sit on my desk playing movies. I want to run them down as quickly as possible, so I'm planning to turn wifi on, brightness full, fullscreen movie mode. I don't know if running maps in the background or maybe GPS status would help too. Open to suggestions.
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Don't they make apps that will drain the battery in a consistent way for comparison?
Actually here are some:
https://market.android.com/search?q=battery+benchmark&c=apps
Thanks...I'll look into those but I figure full brightness video is fine too.
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Test 1 is currently running. Fully charged Qcell 2800, started at 6:45am; as of approx. 9am (2h 12m of full screen video with GPS status running in the background) battery was 65%. I have the phone in flight mode to remove network connectivity/signal strength as a variable. Full results will be in tonight.
Well this isn't even close. I'm half tempted not to bother finishing the test. On test #2, OEM battery, after 2h 12m of video the OEM battery is at 78%. 78% vs 65%....that is HUGE. The OEM is winning by a mile. But for kicks I'll finish the test and post all the results/graphs.
"2800mAh" battery is more like 1600mAh
The results are much worse than I expected. And I notice that Amazon isn't even selling these batteries anymore, so that's something to take note of. I would imagine the data below would look familiar for any aftermarket battery sold at a cheap price (and possibly some sold for a not-cheap price).
Each battery was charged to 100% to start. I used the Samsung video player on full brightness (using the video player setting, not just the Android setting since the video player setting overrides the system). I played 3 movies on the Note during the rundown tests, in the same order. Mostly the Note sat on a corner of my desk playing with volume off; occasionally I stopped it to take a measurement or screenshot.
The "2800" battery lasted 5h 32m to 1% charge. Discharge rate was fairly linear, though it did accelerate a bit starting at about 25%. After movie 1 (2h 12m) it was at 65%, after movie 2 (4h 15m cumulative) it was 30%, and did not make it through movie #3.
The OEM battery lasted 9h 35m to 1% charge. Discharge rate was also linear and remained essentially the same from 100 to 0. After movie 1 (2h 12m) it was 78%, after movie 2 (4h 15m) it was 57%, after movie 3 (6h cumulative) it was 36% (the "2800" battery died during movie 3), and after movie 3 I went back and played movie 1 again (in full) and then started movie 1 AGAIN and got another ~90 minutes into it.
The difference is ridiculous. Since the "2800" battery was only $14, price per mAh is actually better than the OEM battery which is more than twice as expensive, but this thing is more like 1600mAh than 2800mAh. This isn't surprising to me, but it is good to quantify how terrible these knockoff batteries are. If I'd paid $20 or more for it I'd be angry, but given how cheap it was I'll toss it in the drawer and know I have a cheap 5-hour battery in addition to my two OEM batteries.
Since the "2800" battery has only had a couple of charge cycles, I will try to run the test again in a few days and see if more charge/discharge cycles make a difference. My OEM batteries haven't had many more, though, since I have two and I've been swapping between them on alternate days. I don't expect to gain 1200mAh.
Notice something else. When I rebooted for the 2nd test, bluetooth turned itself back on despite the Note staying in flight mode. I didn't notice that during the test, but that means that the OEM battery was actually under more load than the "2800" battery for the 9+ hour run.
tl; dr:
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Damn.
I have been hearing that the Hyperion ones are good, though. The pricing seems to be about the same as the QCell. I guess I'll find out--they should be arriving today.
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Damn.
I have been hearing that the Hyperion ones are good, though. The pricing seems to be about the same as the QCell. I guess I'll find out--they should be arriving today.
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please report back !
So after using them for a few days, they actually seem pretty good.
I don't think I have the patience that Hausman (I actually want to call him 'haus) to do a more technical burn analysis (thanks 'Haus). Plus, I'm lazy. However, I've been using them instead of the Samsung OEM battery for the past few days and they seem to be transparent enough that I don't notice that a different battery is being used.
For $30 on Amazon, I'd tap that.
I know this topic is always repeated but I fly I should havr made a thread anyway. This morning, in 15 minutes of web browsing, I lost 3% battery. In 10 minutes, I lost 2%, so it seems to be progressive. I just got this phone Friday.
That can't be normal, is it? I don't want to return it but I will if its a bartery issue. Could it be as simple as buying a new battery?
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Most people report good battery stats. Give it a week and see if it settles down. Might need a few recharge cycles to level out.
As mentioned, the OS needs a few power cycles to generate its Batt Stats to give you a more accurate baseline. Also if you need your device to last all day and into the evening with no supplimental charging, you may want to look into taking certain measures to ensure your battery life is sipped and not gulped. I am not sure your level of experience or you tech knowledge, but basically anything having to do with comms is going to suck life. BT, wifi, 2g/3g/4g, and gps are what we’re talking about. You can manage these manually or use apps to do it for you such as Juice Defender and 3gWatchdog to name a couple. My office is in the bowels of the building where reception is spotty. The first week with this phone, my battery was at 40% by lunch time. This is because it was constantly searching for signal and when it did get one, it was being forced to high power to maintain it. Since I really don’t use my handset much in my office, I decided to take drastic measures to see what could be done. I installed the previous mentioned software already to keep my data use under control (came from a unlimited plan sucking down 8-12 gigs/mon on average) so with a few tweaks it was set to assist me. So when roaming my building I check it occasionally and when in my office I switch to airplane mode since I have my email in front of me and I use Google Voice to ensure all my calls find me no matter where I’m at. I arrive at work at 0700 and stay charged in on my drive to work. So at 0700 I was at 100%. I switched to AP mode after 15 minutes of typical goodmorning watercooler talk. At 1200 I looked at my Note and it read 99%. I went to lunch and opened all connections up while in our cafateria and after 45 minutes I was down 5% with comms going and lots of email and FB browsing. I’m back in my office and still at 95%. Obviously not everybody can follow the scheduled use as I laid out, but it works for me since I don’t have signal anyways and will make day much easier when I have to do lots of running and wont be plugging in untill tonight around 2300 except when commuting. I’m hoping this trend of juice sipping continues on for the rest of the day.
Screen brightness\use also is a big juice sucker. So, with the big screen on the note you need to be mindful of that, too.
Thank you for taking your time on that long informative answer!
Asides, today at school, my phone was on complete idle standby with lowest possible brightness and Wifi off (but mobile data on) and by 2:00 (6-2 so 8 hours) I'm down from 90% to 75%.
Is it defective or is what I'm getting normal?
Edit: Forgot to add I have a Tasker that disables mobile data when turning the screen off.
Edit 2: The Tasker profile is for the screen facing down, not being off.
Still, is that not a lot?
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tjw345 said:
I know this topic is always repeated but I fly I should havr made a thread anyway. This morning, in 15 minutes of web browsing, I lost 3% battery. In 10 minutes, I lost 2%, so it seems to be progressive. I just got this phone Friday.
That can't be normal, is it? I don't want to return it but I will if its a bartery issue. Could it be as simple as buying a new battery?
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What are you complaining about those are great numbers. Losing 1% every 5 minutes means 500 minutes of screen on time, which is 7 hours and 10 minutes. Remember that's just with the screen on. With the screen off and sitting in your pocket you will lost about 1% per hour.
2g/3g/4g...each step you take the worse it is on battery. Restrict to 2g (edge) if you arnt downloading or doing anything. There's lots of toggles. What Juicedefender does is kills the connections untill you turn the screen on and I believe periodically between screen ons to pull any texts and such. The weaker the signal strength (bars) the more battery its using in order to stay connected. Try a few things and you'll be surprised at how stepping in a little to restrict its juice use will make a difference in battery life. Plus, as mentioned, give a few days to build those batt stats up, then it will give a more accurate measure of the current capacity.
tjw345 said:
Thank you for taking your time on that long informative answer!
Asides, today at school, my phone was on complete idle standby with lowest possible brightness and Wifi off (but mobile data on) and by 2:00 (6-2 so 8 hours) I'm down from 90% to 75%.
Is it defective or is what I'm getting normal?
Edit: Forgot to add I have a Tasker that disables mobile data when turning the screen off.
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So you lost about 2% an hour. Typically you should see 1% per hour. So either you were in a low signal area which caused it to use more power to find a signal, or else you last charged it with a USB charger which prevents it from going into deep sleep (known bug). Or you could have a misbehaving app.
Download CPUSpy from the market an BetterBatteryStats from XDA and see if your phone is deep sleeping and check for wakelocks.
I last charged it with the OEM Samsung charger.
Is that the problem? The reason I started this thread is because I see people reporting (yes I know) that on standby they get great battery life.
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Every phone discharges differently, especially when new. The overall life is what's important as to whether it's acceptable to you or not. Give it 2-3 days of good ol fashion heavy use. A few good full charge then full discharge are good for getting a good baseline. I remember one of my phones would lose it's top 10% (100 to 90) in a matter of minutes of being unplugged, but then would be fine the rest of the day. This is what I mean by the overall being the important part. But the rogue app part could be something to look into. Aften when we get new phones we go hog wild with new apps with the "lets see what this baby can do" mentality, I say this because I am very very very guilty of it. Sometimes you get an app that malfunctions or is just straight BS. There some that open by itself. Some that you get Ppush notifications about buying ingame currency for and other shady stuff. I try to install only a couple apps a day to keep an eye on weird stuff happening.
Thanks for the replies everyone.
Chief Greek, are you seeing around my results or do you think it is simply a matter of my battery stats not being correct as you said?
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I have been using my method I stated in my first reply. Here I sit about 9 hours later and my phone is at 92% with no supplimental charging.
Do you know of a way to get a 4G toggle into the dropdown menu for easy access alongside Wifi, Rotation, etc?
Those are some good stats though.
Edit-One app I do have installed is "RAM Manager" and I replaced Samsung settings with settings in app. Could that be detrimental&
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Havnt played with ram manager, although used something called cachemate before. Seemed to do the trick when phone was acting goofy or very lagged out. I would wait a few days and see if it levels out. Keep screen off when you dont need to use it and if you really really want to do something about it now, install the free juice defender and see how you like it. If you like it and want more controls, upgrade to one of their pad versions.
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It seems deep sleep is working. On the other picture, Alarm Clock had a wake lock of 44 minutes, is that bad?
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I can go for hours in standby w/o loosing any amount. Except when I forget the work-around for the charge wakelock. I will loose several percent per hour then...
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tjw - no, it doesn't look right.
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I can go for hours in standby w/o loosing any amount. Except when I forget the work-around for the charge wakelock. I will loose several percent per hour then...
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tjw - no, it doesn't look right.
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I loose 1% per 20-30 minutes on standby =/ What settings do you have/how many apps do you have? Do you keep Wifi/Mobile Data on all the time? Reason being, I want to get this figured out before I root/go any further. If it is indeed my own issue, I want to to get it sorted out. Is it worth a factory reset?
Not to get off topic but are the batteries from the international version and the Att version the same? Could they be a different type or manufacturer?
Phoneguy589 said:
Not to get off topic but are the batteries from the international version and the Att version the same? Could they be a different type or manufacturer?
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I am not an expert answer on this but yes, I'd like to think so. In some cases it would not be the same (being that ATT has NFC and International does not) but considering the NFC chip is NOT in the battery, it leads me to believe that the they are the same 2600mah batteries.
So, I was just with Samsung chat agent (who probably didn't know a lot about the phone) and she said lost of 25% was normal standby. Am I the only one with this? Techntreck, you get hours on standby?
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10% Battery left at this point. I started the day with 100% at 6:20am. It's 7:58pm (19:58) now. Is this bad?
As a over night worker i was able to put the lte thru a good days/nights work ..
my night started at 10pm with a green light full charge. for the rest of the night i put it thru everything my evo og would have gone thru plus maybe a little more due to it being new. This includes texting,phone calls, streaming pandora ( roughly 2-3 hrs ), playing mp3s ( about an hr ), little youtube and toped off with checking news and weather. Now a night like this would normally net me around 19% when i get off or even maybe a lil boost on the community charger thats left in the breakroom.
When i left work at 645 i had over 60% battery life. I couldnt be happier.. due to it being a holiday weekend it will be abused a lot som im looking forward to see how far i can really drain it.
My usage is a lot lighter than yours, but the battery really seems to hold up well. I took it off the charger when left work yesterday around 5 and when I came back to work this morning at 8, it was at 85%. My OG Evo, with it's 2-year old battery, would have been well under 50% by then. Unlike most folks, I charge at work and go through the night without charging.
my wifes evo cannot last a days work which is usually 10 hrs or so without a charger.. told her to stop watching so much midget porn but i guess a girl has her needs
The midget porn will get you every time!
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The midget porn will get you every time!
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Hard to put it down once you start watching it. Literally drains your battery faster than anything else. Especially when it's in 3D on the EVO 3D.
That's awesome....I actually bought a 3600 battery for my Evo 4G just because of how heavy use it gets. Still only lasts a day and a half or so.
I won't get a true test of the battery life until I'm back at work on Tuesday, but for now, my phone has been off the charger for a little over three hours with wifi on and GPS/Bluetooth/LTE off. I've made a few phone calls and sent a couple of text messages and e-mails. My phone is also doing Gmail sync and Exchange push sync. My battery sits at 93%. Protracting that same amount of use throughout the day it will be at about 84% by the time I would normally get home from work. Pretty dang good.
I work night shift. unplugged at 5 pm yesterday. was at 30% left after 15 hours. over 3 hours screen on time.
Ive got LTE on, GPS on, Bluetooth on, and Wifi On. medium use, few calls all under 3 minutes, some texting and browsing, ect
off the charger for 4 hours on the dot, and im at 74%
Well, if you want to make a real test turn that WiFi off and turn on gps whole time and do your regular work in 3g. Even an old EVO will have a good battery life on WiFi.
grrmisfit said:
As a over night worker i was able to put the lte thru a good days/nights work ..
my night started at 10pm with a green light full charge. for the rest of the night i put it thru everything my evo og would have gone thru plus maybe a little more due to it being new. This includes texting,phone calls, streaming pandora ( roughly 2-3 hrs ), playing mp3s ( about an hr ), little youtube and toped off with checking news and weather. Now a night like this would normally net me around 19% when i get off or even maybe a lil boost on the community charger thats left in the breakroom.
When i left work at 645 i had over 60% battery life. I couldnt be happier.. due to it being a holiday weekend it will be abused a lot som im looking forward to see how far i can really drain it.
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This is great to hear! I was wondering about the battery life. I am curious how it will last for me when I get it (ordered through WireFly). I have a horrible signal here at work with my Epic, and it drains my battery way too fast searching for a signal.
I am pretty impressed with the battery life so far too. This phone is light years better than the 3D in every way.
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Well, if you want to make a real test turn that WiFi off and turn on gps whole time and do your regular work in 3g. Even an old EVO will have a good battery life on WiFi.
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I know it wasn't a reply to me but ill chime in here on one part.. I never turn GPS off.. my og EVO never used 4 g at work.. was to scared to kill battery lol. Only thing I did not have on was bluetooth.
Edit: I still have yet to hook up to charger and I'm betting I'm no lower then 40%
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Oddly tho it says 12 hrs on battery and its been almost 14 hrs
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I know it wasn't a reply to me but ill chime in here on one part.. I never turn GPS off.. my og EVO never used 4 g at work.. was to scared to kill battery lol. Only thing I did not have on was bluetooth.
Edit: I still have yet to hook up to charger and I'm betting I'm no lower then 40%
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One thing that eats a lot of battery is gps, and one thing that doesn't is BT.
You really goofed on that one man.
Also, if you go under Settings/Power/Battery use, it will tell you your battery percentage.
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I am pretty impressed with the battery life so far too. This phone is light years better than the 3D in every way.
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From my testing on wifi, so far it's about the same as Evo 3D and Epic Touch in playing youtube videos in the dark - about 4 min of video per percent of battery charge.
This was only after one charge/discharge cycle. So I'm sure it will be better.
Love the battery life! Damn og EVO had to stay on charger with extended battery.
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nabbed said:
One thing that eats a lot of battery is gps, and one thing that doesn't is BT.
You really goofed on that one man.
Also, if you go under Settings/Power/Battery use, it will tell you your battery percentage.
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From my testing on wifi, so far it's about the same as Evo 3D and Epic Touch in playing youtube videos in the dark - about 4 min of video per percent of battery charge.
This was only after one charge/discharge cycle. So I'm sure it will be better.
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i never turned gps off and i still had great battery weres the goof lol
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i never turned gps off and i still had great battery weres the goof lol
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I don't know what "great" means. It's a very subjective term which means different things for different people. My "great" might be getting 7+ hours of HD video play. Yours might be getting through a day of work with one hour of screen on time. I don't know.
If you want to compare battery life please post which radios were used, the usage graph, the percentage graph, and the on times for display and voice calls.
And the goof. Well, the goof is that you would be getting "greater" battery life with gps off.
good for me is a comparison to the OG evo.. if i can have the same usage with nothing turned off but BT and have 50% more battery life then it was great. streaming pandora over 3g and other misc stuff i did during night would have demanded a battery charge by at least the end off work.. i still have yet to hook up
grrmisfit said:
good for me is a comparison to the OG evo.. if i can have the same usage with nothing turned off but BT and have 50% more battery life then it was great. streaming pandora over 3g and other misc stuff i did during night would have demanded a battery charge by at least the end off work.. i still have yet to hook up
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That's great, man. Just turn that gps off if you aren't using it much.
Is GPS even used if you don't have an app running that requires it?
Just like the title says, after 5 hours of light usage my prime factor for battery drain is CellStandby at 42% (the phone itself was down to 70%).
Anyone experienced this so far? I'm aware that LTE is rather demanding but it can't be that bad vs HSPA which drained next to nothing on standby
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Just like the title says, after 5 hours of light usage my prime factor for battery drain is CellStandby at 42% (the phone itself was down to 70%).
Anyone experienced this so far? I'm aware that LTE is rather demanding but it can't be that bad vs HSPA which drained next to nothing on standby
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It's a bug in the software.
Thanks, I did search (albeit quickly) in the forums here and didn't see any mention of it.
I did see an article about the international model being affected by a similar glitch so.. all models would have this ?
I've had the phone for 5 days and gone through maybe 8 batt cycles. I'm not getting more than 2hrs screen time on any cycle. This is stupidly horrible battery life. There has got to be something severely wrong. I don't do much with the phone. I can't even with less than 2hrs to work with. Overnight batt loss is maybe 8%.
Any help is ENORMOUSLY appreciated.
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Thanks, I did search (albeit quickly) in the forums here and didn't see any mention of it.
I did see an article about the international model being affected by a similar glitch so.. all models would have this ?
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I believe all have this bug. It's just that, a bug. And there is a fix, but I'm too lazy to apply it. (Assuming it works to fix the bug in the U.S. variant software)
I'm on HSPA with TMO but it seems to depend on reception more than anything in my experience. Here's my log from today:
Lol, sorry for the huge image
a bug as in it isnt actually draining the battery or it is really draining it?
I'm in the same boat, and there is no way that the standby is just a calculation error. If I sit and use my phone continuously after charging I can get 2 hrs of screen time while the battery drops from 100% to ~65%. During a normal day of light use I completely drain the battery and my screen time might be 1h50m at most. So something is definitely up - although I'm also getting terrible signal strength, and I think that might have something to do with it. I've searched every thread and have made sure that I have no rogue apps or processes consuming the battery either.
gary
edited - I take it back, after restoring my phone last night I have gotten 2h25m screen time after 11h45m since charging and I'm at 17%. So, doing better but not great by any stretch.
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a bug as in it isnt actually draining the battery or it is really draining it?
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I read that it is simply a graphical error. It should be reading 3.4mw but it's set to 34 so it's showing far more use than it really is
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Hi guys
This seems to be an issue on all SGS3s. I have both the LTE and international model and they both show high cell standby. Check this thread out for more info on the i9300 forums to understand why its showing so high which is actually a calculation error
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732722
My i747 is rooted so I decided to make a backup and flash the zip fix they provided and seemed to work. But the risk is inherently yours if you want to try it. Its just an xml file so I wasn't worried trying it in my case. I am more sending the link so you can see why it reports using so much battery
My cell standby battery usage went from over 50% to 5%
Basically, cell standby is not really killing your battery, it overestimates the power usage as being 10X more than what it is from my understanding
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cloudyphiz said:
I'm in the same boat, and there is no way that the standby is just a calculation error. If I sit and use my phone continuously after charging I can get 2 hrs of screen time while the battery drops from 100% to ~65%. During a normal day of light use I completely drain the battery and my screen time might be 1h50m at most. So something is definitely up - although I'm also getting terrible signal strength, and I think that might have something to do with it. I've searched every thread and have made sure that I have no rogue apps or processes consuming the battery either.
gary
edited - I take it back, after restoring my phone last night I have gotten 2h25m screen time after 11h45m since charging and I'm at 17%. So, doing better but not great by any stretch.
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Yes yes yes! This is exactly my experience too! There must be something wrong if all others report 4+hrs screen time and we can barely break 2hrs. I'm in San francisco. My previous atrix "4g" would do at least 3hrs during my day to day.
Please, help. I'm really sad. Was really looking forward to at least an extra 30min over the atrix in my day to day.
So is the battery actually draining that fast with the cell stand by issue... Or us the battery actually higher charge than reporting?
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"I've had the phone for 5 days and gone through maybe 8 batt cycles. I'm not getting more than 2hrs screen time on any cycle. This is stupidly horrible battery life. There has got to be something severely wrong. I don't do much with the phone. I can't even with less than 2hrs to work with. Overnight batt loss is maybe 8%.
Any help is ENORMOUSLY appreciated."
and
"I'm in the same boat, and there is no way that the standby is just a calculation error. If I sit and use my phone continuously after charging I can get 2 hrs of screen time while the battery drops from 100% to ~65%. During a normal day of light use I completely drain the battery and my screen time might be 1h50m at most. So something is definitely up - although I'm also getting terrible signal strength, and I think that might have something to do with it. I've searched every thread and have made sure that I have no rogue apps or processes consuming the battery either.
gary
edited - I take it back, after restoring my phone last night I have gotten 2h25m screen time after 11h45m since charging and I'm at 17%. So, doing better but not great by any stretch."
Are exactly the same thing I'm also experiencing. I've come close to taking it back and exchanging it for another one but I'm not sure if this is how all of the US versions of the S3 are. Been reading through threads here and posted on a few of them and it looks like short battery life is a pretty common problem. I hope someone comes up with a fix pretty soon before I run out of time to exchange or return it.
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I read that it is simply a graphical error. It should be reading 3.4mw but it's set to 34 so it's showing far more use than it really is
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You are close, but not exactly right.
When writing the software one of the developers entered 34mw for how much the battery should drain at standby instead of 3.4mw. A simple typo, but im sure if there isnt a fix already that there will be soon :]
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You are close, but not exactly right.
When writing the software one of the developers entered 34mw for how much the battery should drain at standby instead of 3.4mw. A simple typo, but im sure if there isnt a fix already that there will be soon :]
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There's a fix that's available on this forum but that only fixes the reporting. It doesn't fix the poor battery life.
BonesHopkins said:
"I've had the phone for 5 days and gone through maybe 8 batt cycles. I'm not getting more than 2hrs screen time on any cycle. This is stupidly horrible battery life. There has got to be something severely wrong. I don't do much with the phone. I can't even with less than 2hrs to work with. Overnight batt loss is maybe 8%.
Any help is ENORMOUSLY appreciated."
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"I'm in the same boat, and there is no way that the standby is just a calculation error. If I sit and use my phone continuously after charging I can get 2 hrs of screen time while the battery drops from 100% to ~65%. During a normal day of light use I completely drain the battery and my screen time might be 1h50m at most. So something is definitely up - although I'm also getting terrible signal strength, and I think that might have something to do with it. I've searched every thread and have made sure that I have no rogue apps or processes consuming the battery either.
gary
edited - I take it back, after restoring my phone last night I have gotten 2h25m screen time after 11h45m since charging and I'm at 17%. So, doing better but not great by any stretch."
Are exactly the same thing I'm also experiencing. I've come close to taking it back and exchanging it for another one but I'm not sure if this is how all of the US versions of the S3 are. Been reading through threads here and posted on a few of them and it looks like short battery life is a pretty common problem. I hope someone comes up with a fix pretty soon before I run out of time to exchange or return it.
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Should we start a new thread? I've been posting in all the various battery threads to avoid getting yelled at for starting a poor battery issue thread. You're the fifth person to note the same issue. I too restored my phone this morning and it seems to be doing better, but still nowhere near what others are reporting. Also not nearly on par with my previous Atrix.
Maybe we have valid reason to start a new thread?
I applied the fix but still have poor battery life. Just as bad if not worse than my epic 4g.
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SOLUTION!
Steps to solve the problem (only for rooted smartphones).
Download the updated file (510kb) from MediaFire.
http://www.mediafire.com/?x7lhcpjjr9pg4mb
Put the file on microSD card or internal storage.
Reboot your phone into ClockWork Mod (CWM) Recovery mode.
Choose "Install zip from sdcard" and select the downloaded file.
Reboot your smartphone.
Link to Article:
http://www.mobilenapps.com/articles/2901/20120630/samsung-galaxy-s3-battery-drain-issue-reasons.htm
Link to XDA thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732722
CDMA people make sure you post your carrier when discussing battery life. GSM battery life for me hasn't been too bad. 10 hours constant use or so on wifi and around 6 hours or so on hspda. Standby time is very good. Especially for stock kernel.
I'm sure we can get some more once the LTE switch gets added.
That fix is just for the calculation of cell standby drain, not for how much it is actually taxing the battery. Several people on AT&T seem to have a real problem with excessive battery drain in standby, and (for me at least) it seems like it's happening when I have a poor signal. Unfortunately, that is mostly all of the time.
I found this old thread, and the APN listed there seems to help. It's just an interim solution though and I have to imagine AT&T will have a software fix for us soon.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1338109
gary