So when LTE comes to town will we lose HSPA+???
Nope they will co-exist just like edge and hspa+ do today.
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It is my understanding that even when on LTE you use GSM for phone calls and other non-data related transactions. Either way, they're not building an HSPA+ network to tear it down in 2 years.
Just checking. I don't care if I don't get LTE capability for the next 2 years, I just wish they would strengthen the signals they already have in my area.
Montgomery AL <------- never getting LTE.
There is lte here and my h+ works great they will have to coexist, they only have 2 lte phones out, a lot more use h+
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Our phones, from what I can tell, are not LTE compatible. Only h+.
When LTE arrives hopefully we will see true HSPA+ speeds
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I'm actually strongly considering taking my i777 back for the Skyrocket. Even though I don't have LTE, locally, it is only a matter of time.
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I'm actually strongly considering taking my i777 back for the Skyrocket. Even though I don't have LTE, locally, it is only a matter of time.
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I suggest you don't.
Hellraiser is probably never coming to the Skyrocket. The Skyrocket has a slower SoC in general so you will notice more stutters here and there. The i777 will get ICS first through XDA.
Even if you got it today, an integrated LTE modem with the SoC won't be coming until next year for Qualcomm, and around 2H 2012 or 2013 for other companies. You won't be missing much, seeing as how by the time you do get another upgrade in 20 months you will have a step up in everything as opposed to a step up in data speeds and a step down in processor/developer support.
****, I don't even have H+ yet.
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I'm actually strongly considering taking my i777 back for the Skyrocket. Even though I don't have LTE, locally, it is only a matter of time.
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Don't fall for all this 4G marketing crap from AT&T. They are not even close to offering true HSPA+ or LTE speeds so no need to worry for now. When they offer the true speeds it will be time to change your phone anyways.
HSPA+, or Evolved High-Speed Packet Access, is a technical standard for wireless, broadband telecommunication. HSPA+ was first defined in the technical standard 3GPP release 7.
HSPA+ provides an evolution of High Speed Packet Access and provides data rates up to 84 Megabits per second (Mbit/s) to the mobile device and 22 Mbit/s from the mobile device.
3GPP Long Term Evolution (LTE) is a standard for wireless communication of high-speed data. It is based upon GSM/EDGE and Universal Mobile Telecommunications System/High Speed Packet Access (UMTS/HSPA) network technologies.Features of LTE include an all-IP flat network architecture, end-to-end QoS including provisions for low-latency communications, peak download rates nearing 300 Mbps and upload rates of 75 Mbps, capacity exceeding 200 active users per cell[3], the ability to manage fast-moving mobiles, and support for multi-cast and broadcast streams.
Ahh... i wonder what 300mbps feels like...
Hell, I wonder what 21 Mbps feels like, let alone 300.
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Local ATT store told me that LTE will be available in SC around February of 2012. Even with this info I still have no desire to switch out for an LTE phone. (I'm still within my return policy.) I have a verizon LTE hotspot for school that can hold me over. I spend 90% of my time at work or at home, so the HSPA+ is plenty to fill in the gaps when I can't use my high end connections.
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Hell, I wonder what 21 Mbps feels like, let alone 300.
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You should be able to experience 21mbps by connecting to a broadband wireless network
Most Broadband Internet providers have these speeds (except DSL I think), now 300mbps download speeds.....that would be awesome.
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Local ATT store told me that LTE will be available in SC around February of 2012. Even with this info I still have no desire to switch out for an LTE phone. (I'm still within my return policy.) I have a verizon LTE hotspot for school that can hold me over. I spend 90% of my time at work or at home, so the HSPA+ is plenty to fill in the gaps when I can't use my high end connections.
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We got LTE in Chicago. I'm from the suburbs and literally on the west side of my town we get around 3-5 Mbps but when I get on the east side (closer to Chicago) I've hit 13 Mbps. I have not been in Chicago sine i got my new phone but I think that 13 is pretty sweet but i got 36 Mbps at my house so its nothing amazing to me
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We got LTE in Chicago. I'm from the suburbs and literally on the west side of my town we get around 3-5 Mbps but when I get on the east side (closer to Chicago) I've hit 13 Mbps. I have not been in Chicago sine i got my new phone but I think that 13 is pretty sweet but i got 36 Mbps at my house so its nothing amazing to me
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I get anywhere from 2mbps to 7mbps down and usually around 1.1mbps up on my phone's data connection. (Latency around 100ms) This is perfectly acceptable for most browsing and applications, including streaming video.
I'm really hoping they keep HSPA+ around for awhile. I get killer battery life with it and the speeds are more than enough for 95% of everything I do with my phone.
In metro Detroit I only get average 1.4mbps down and 1mbps up...is my phone defective or is the network just ****ty here? The coverage map shows I have full hspa+ coverage
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So I usually check the news in the morning and today (day before the announcement) I noticed that the web pages were loading super fast so I did Speed test and I'm getting crazy 2mbps/d and 1.3mbps/u! I'm usually in the 200kbps/140kbps. I figure that they're testing out beforehand to make sure its running well. What are you guys getting?
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287k down, 142k up. Central PA. But if I remember, NYC was @ the same. My 4G in NYC was like 9M down and 3M up? Cannot remember. My phone USUALLY flys as it is on 3G and I never really think about it.
It would be nice, I have never seen 3G speeds on any CDMA network in my area above 500k - including Verizon, I actually see better more consistent speeds with Sprint than VZW.
I have my doubts though, living in the sticks really does have advantages, but stuff like this sucks.
I just did the speed test and on 3g i got 2.34mbps down and .64 mbps up. Those are pretty standard numbers for me. I do have an airave at home so don' know if that is making a difference.
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287k down, 142k up. Central PA. But if I remember, NYC was @ the same. My 4G in NYC was like 9M down and 3M up? Cannot remember. My phone USUALLY flys as it is on 3G and I never really think about it.
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My bad, I did not have my glasses on. 2.8Md/1.4Mu (missed some zeros). All Networks are improving 3G (the currently majority of their base model phones) by using different forms of compression for greater speeds. Oh well..........
I lost 3g data connectivity entirely today. I have full bars like I usually do but can't get any data through.
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I lost 3g data connectivity entirely today. I have full bars like I usually do but can't get any data through.
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My data connection is suddenly being very intermittent, too.
I'll try updating my PRL and Profile.... See if that helps at all.
My websurfing is flaky as heck, my Google Talk connection keeps going in and out (and taking a long time to re-login) and I can't seem to update the Android market.
I had just run the "supercharger v6" script, but that shouldn't affect my data connection.... right????
Well let's hope for the best. I'm getting full bars everywhere in Anaheim, CA and speed is constant. I just watched my first youtube video without a single hiccup on 3G
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So I usually check the news in the morning and today (day before the announcement) I noticed that the web pages were loading super fast so I did Speed test and I'm getting crazy 2mbps/d and 1.3mbps/u! I'm usually in the 200kbps/140kbps. I figure that they're testing out beforehand to make sure its running well. What are you guys getting?
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I have also noticed improvements in 3g speed from ohio to texas, been testing at points from columbus to dallas fort worth, have seen 2 meg speeds in fort worth and consistently higher speeds overall.
My guess is with the onset of the IPHONE on sprint, sprint has had to get their 3g act together as the IPHONE does not support LTE or WIMAX it is solely 3g so they cannot afford to continue to piss people off with poor 3g performance. I am now seeing the high speeds I used to see before the smartphones came along with my sanyo mm 9000.
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I have also noticed improvements in 3g speed from ohio to texas, been testing at points from columbus to dallas fort worth, have seen 2 meg speeds in fort worth and consistently higher speeds overall.
My guess is with the onset of the IPHONE on sprint, sprint has had to get their 3g act together as the IPHONE does not support LTE or WIMAX it is solely 3g so they cannot afford to continue to piss people off with poor 3g performance. I am now seeing the high speeds I used to see before the smartphones came along with my sanyo mm 9000.
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3g in my house is usually ~1mb down / 700kb up or so..
Just did a test - 300kb down / 500kb up. This is in the suburbs of san francisco..
(I think we're feeling the iphone saturation..)
I used to get ~1mbps down but in the least three months I've only been getting 30-150 kbps down and 30 kbps up. Totally unusable.
Apparently some GNex users in Athens, GA have a live LTE tower... Let's hope this holds up...
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oh boy, until this comes to NY..
A question about LTE....is it like the terrible WiMax where you have to search for it as if its some type of wifi? or is it like GSM LTE/HSPA, it just appears when you are normally connected to data?
JaY iZz BaKk said:
oh boy, until this comes to NY..
A question about LTE....is it like the terrible WiMax where you have to search for it as if its some type of wifi? or is it like GSM LTE/HSPA, it just appears when you are normally connected to data?
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It runs like what you speak of. Not only a gsm thing. My dads verizon Droid Razr works same way too.
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JaY iZz BaKk said:
oh boy, until this comes to NY..
A question about LTE....is it like the terrible WiMax where you have to search for it as if its some type of wifi? or is it like GSM LTE/HSPA, it just appears when you are normally connected to data?
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Great question... With 4G, it didn't even feel like a mobile data connection... Hopefully LTE auto-searches and quickly connects while using the same or less battery.
Also, everyone, the 30mb/s won't stay for long... Once more towers are active and more lte phones are available, which is probably this summer, speeds will be down again.
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It runs like what you speak of. Not only a gsm thing. My dads verizon Droid Razr works same way too.
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Hmm so you have to search for it on Verizon LTE devices as well?!
It is most likely a placebo but I never use 4G because of the fact I feel as if it is like a wifi that can go away or weaken in reception depending on where I go...I like the GSM way of handling 3.5G/4G
*I have had T-Mobile for 6 years, just currently switched to a iPhone 4S with sprint in January...regretting it :|
Personally, I believe Sprint is going the wrong way with their plans for their mobile network. Now, before you discredit this post, hear me out...
Sprint is the #3 carrier in the US. There is absolutely no way they'll be able to trade blows with AT&T or Verizon as far as their mobile network or subscriber base. They will always be playing catch up to those two and even T-Mobile with their HSPA+ network. Now, here's where I believe Sprint should go:
Do the initial roll-out of LTE as they have announced. Immediately begin switching their network from EV-DO revision A to revision B and start focusing on their 3G network. I honestly believe that Sprint would be better served if they could provide a consistent high-speed 3G network; even more-so than they would be if they begin moving away from WiMAX and toward LTE. LTE should be in the cards, however I believe if they were able to upgrade their 3G network (which would be supported by ALL of their current phones) and start promoting the nation's only 3G network with 5Mb/s down and 2 Mb/s up and the strongest voice network in America, they'd be in better shape in a year than where they will be if they continue their current plans.
Just my 2 cents. Anybody have any thoughts?
OMG... That's even faster than my router.
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JaY iZz BaKk said:
Hmm so you have to search for it on Verizon LTE devices as well?!
It is most likely a placebo but I never use 4G because of the fact I feel as if it is like a wifi that can go away or weaken in reception depending on where I go...I like the GSM way of handling 3.5G/4G
*I have had T-Mobile for 6 years, just currently switched to a iPhone 4S with sprint in January...regretting it :|
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No, LOL. It auto switches and connects like 1x and 3g do... That iPhone is probably the issue though.
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Personally, I believe Sprint is going the wrong way with their plans for their mobile network. Now, before you discredit this post, hear me out...
Sprint is the #3 carrier in the US. There is absolutely no way they'll be able to trade blows with AT&T or Verizon as far as their mobile network or subscriber base. They will always be playing catch up to those two and even T-Mobile with their HSPA+ network. Now, here's where I believe Sprint should go:
Do the initial roll-out of LTE as they have announced. Immediately begin switching their network from EV-DO revision A to revision B and start focusing on their 3G network. I honestly believe that Sprint would be better served if they could provide a consistent high-speed 3G network; even more-so than they would be if they begin moving away from WiMAX and toward LTE. LTE should be in the cards, however I believe if they were able to upgrade their 3G network (which would be supported by ALL of their current phones) and start promoting the nation's only 3G network with 5Mb/s down and 2 Mb/s up and the strongest voice network in America, they'd be in better shape in a year than where they will be if they continue their current plans.
Just my 2 cents. Anybody have any thoughts?
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5 mbps down on CDMA? Good luck. Sprint isn't just upgrading to LTE. They are doing a huge overhaul of their 3G network using lots of options including massively improved backhaul. From the speed tests I've seen in network vision areas so far, their 3G network should be on par with verizons network as far as speed goes. Coverage will be improved by about 20% as well. I agree they should upgrade to EVDO revision B, although I'm not sure what upgrades would be involved in that.
Back on the topic of the first post though, hot damn. I know speeds will drop once more people start using it, but those are impressive initial results.
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5 mbps down on CDMA? Good luck. Sprint isn't just upgrading to LTE. They are doing a huge overhaul of their 3G network using lots of options including massively improved backhaul. From the speed tests I've seen in network vision areas so far, their 3G network should be on par with verizons network as far as speed goes. Coverage will be improved by about 20% as well. I agree they should upgrade to EVDO revision B, although I'm not sure what upgrades would be involved in that.
Back on the topic of the first post though, hot damn. I know speeds will drop once more people start using it, but those are impressive initial results.
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From the little bit I've read about EV-DO revision B, it wouldn't involve any hardware upgrades. It would only involve a "firmware upgrade", if I remember it correctly. But yeah, 30+ Mb/s down is pretty sick. Even after "full-spectrum saturation", if we could get 10Mb/s in half of their 3G footprint, I'd be satisfied.
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Great question... With 4G, it didn't even feel like a mobile data connection... Hopefully LTE auto-searches and quickly connects while using the same or less battery.
Also, everyone, the 30mb/s won't stay for long... Once more towers are active and more lte phones are available, which is probably this summer, speeds will be down again.
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That is the reason that Sprint is only advertising speeds on LTE just below what Verizon is advertising. For the most part people in unsaturated markets will see speeds exceeding 20Mbps down on a good day. And those speeds may even hold up that high once Sprint starts releasing LTE on 800MHz next year as well. And according to some stuff that people have gotten access to, Sprint will be setting up phones to dynamically switch between LTE on 800, 1900, & 2500 so as to keep cell sites from being over-burdened. It will be a while before Sprint's LTE starts to suffer from over-crowding.
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mike.r.olson said:
Personally, I believe Sprint is going the wrong way with their plans for their mobile network. Now, before you discredit this post, hear me out...
Sprint is the #3 carrier in the US. There is absolutely no way they'll be able to trade blows with AT&T or Verizon as far as their mobile network or subscriber base. They will always be playing catch up to those two and even T-Mobile with their HSPA+ network. Now, here's where I believe Sprint should go:
Do the initial roll-out of LTE as they have announced. Immediately begin switching their network from EV-DO revision A to revision B and start focusing on their 3G network. I honestly believe that Sprint would be better served if they could provide a consistent high-speed 3G network; even more-so than they would be if they begin moving away from WiMAX and toward LTE. LTE should be in the cards, however I believe if they were able to upgrade their 3G network (which would be supported by ALL of their current phones) and start promoting the nation's only 3G network with 5Mb/s down and 2 Mb/s up and the strongest voice network in America, they'd be in better shape in a year than where they will be if they continue their current plans.
Just my 2 cents. Anybody have any thoughts?
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Sprint last fall flat out stated that they are not going to roll out EV-DO B. Network Vision will max out the capabilities of EV-DO A while they roll-out LTE on 1900 and 800. After that is complete and LTE Advanced is rolling out, they will be able to start taking existing 1900 EV-DO carriers and transition them to LTE as well. I expect that eventually, EV-DO will be phased out for a completely IP-based voice network using VoLTE. And Sprint is even releasing some devices with SVDO on EV-DO A so you can talk and surf at the same time until LTE is covering their entire network footprint.
JaY iZz BaKk said:
oh boy, until this comes to NY..
A question about LTE....is it like the terrible WiMax where you have to search for it as if its some type of wifi? or is it like GSM LTE/HSPA, it just appears when you are normally connected to data?
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Looking at the viper 4g lte options it seems there is no "on-off" setting for 4g lte. Looks like it will just be there. My area doesn't have lte yet so I can't be positive but I definately could not find a 4g setting of any kind
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I'll say it over and over again. Sprint doesn't have a 4G network. Also, Verizon has 50+M down and 12+M up
Then again, at this point in time who needs more than 3-4M down. just upgrade to rev-b and done.
This is a common thing for my WiMAX at the house but WiMAX is so freaking glitchy.
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This is typical WiMAX in my area.
1900mhz is going to be set up 5x5, but no confirmation if 800 and 2.5 will be set up on 5x5 though. More than likely they will be set up on 10x10 since there is a ****load more spectrum on there, especially 2.5GHz. There is 120mhz of spectrum in the 2.5GHz frequency that Clearwire owns.
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From the little bit I've read about EV-DO revision B, it wouldn't involve any hardware upgrades. It would only involve a "firmware upgrade", if I remember it correctly. But yeah, 30+ Mb/s down is pretty sick. Even after "full-spectrum saturation", if we could get 10Mb/s in half of their 3G footprint, I'd be satisfied.
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and yet a year later i am gettn 38 mbs down
yeah, me too. In SLC, we've always had really good GSM and HSPA service from at&t, never matching the horror stories from the likes of chicago, sanfran, and NYC. However, they decided to pull a market-driven cluster-**** and only delivery a bare-minimum of market penetration so instead of a regular 4-5bars, I see usuall just 2. But that's not all. My phone has a supreme hard-on for the LTE and will choose the LTE tower 5 miles away over the one right next to me which results in some hysterisis and rapid HSPA/LTE changes. This may or may not be responsible for periodic loss of my data connection which I don't find about until hours after i missed that important email or text (google voice). awesome.
I put up with this for a couple weeks 'cause i'm used to the S&M relationship US mobile customers have with their wireless providers (post-paid, anyway) and finally called to ***** a little. turns out that while at&t would rather we all suffer at the hands of their inept decision making by removing any kind of switch from our devices, they will make manual adjustment for those who cry loud enough. If you really want LTE gone, you can ask for an 'inset lock to 2g/3g' which will prevent your device from seeking out LTE towers to connect to. I made mention of APN's and at least one rep indicated that this made that change, but I couldn't be sure this is an actual edit to the APN on your device.
LTE is nice for the 2% of the time I can actually use it, but the other 98% it sucks donkey ballz... at least the way at&t has done it in SLC.
hope this helps someone.
The roll out in Arkansas of all places has been awesome. I get 4 bars like, sometimes 5 everywhere within 15 miles of my house. I average - 85 dbm 52 asu signal. It's awesome. I'm sorry your lte in Utah blows.
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I love ATT in CT. LTE just became official in my city but its been working great for almost a year before it launched officially.
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The roll out in Arkansas of all places has been awesome. I get 4 bars like, sometimes 5 everywhere within 15 miles of my house. I average - 85 dbm 52 asu signal. It's awesome. I'm sorry your lte in Utah blows.
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undoubtedly there are some people close enough to LTE towers that they aren't having quite the abysmal experience I am, and other people's positive experiences in other cities could indicate that at&t will eventually get it right here. I can only hope.
LTE here in Hawaii is awesome. Then again Hawaii is so small that a few towers can probably cover most parts of the island. Hopefully att can cover your area better.
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i've been very impressed with AT&T's LTE network. it's a lot better than sprint's 4G/WiMAX network.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33826576
LTE is working fine here in Central NJ. The issue with your battery isn't AT&T's rollout of LTE, it's LTE itself. The simple fact is, it's not as power efficient as HSPA (yet) and phone manufacturers haven't upped the battery specs to compensate.
Now, what AT&T IS at fault for is not giving their LTE customers an LTE/HSPA toggle.
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The roll out in Arkansas of all places has been awesome. I get 4 bars like, sometimes 5 everywhere within 15 miles of my house. I average - 85 dbm 52 asu signal. It's awesome. I'm sorry your lte in Utah blows.
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Yep. I was quite surprised with LTE coverage. It's virtually everywhere in central Arkansas, even between cities in areas that you wouldn't expect LTE.
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entropism said:
LTE is working fine here in Central NJ. The issue with your battery isn't AT&T's rollout of LTE, it's LTE itself. The simple fact is, it's not as power efficient as HSPA (yet) and phone manufacturers haven't upped the battery specs to compensate.
Now, what AT&T IS at fault for is not giving their LTE customers an LTE/HSPA toggle.
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I wish that were the case in SLC. the problem is that LTE is not available everywhere in the coverage area, and when it is, it is frequently at much lower signal strength so it's quite apparent that at&t did not roll out LTE to all of their HSPA towers in the area. With phones preferring LTE, they are connecting to towers that are frequently farther away than the closest HSPA tower and thus requiring more power. For example, both my home and work give me 4-5bars of HSPA, but only 2bars of LTE. Some parts of the city give no LTE at all. Its currently an incomplete roll out.
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yeah, me too. In SLC, we've always had really good GSM and HSPA service from at&t, never matching the horror stories from the likes of chicago, sanfran, and NYC. However, they decided to pull a market-driven cluster-**** and only delivery a bare-minimum of market penetration so instead of a regular 4-5bars, I see usuall just 2. But that's not all. My phone has a supreme hard-on for the LTE and will choose the LTE tower 5 miles away over the one right next to me which results in some hysterisis and rapid HSPA/LTE changes. This may or may not be responsible for periodic loss of my data connection which I don't find about until hours after i missed that important email or text (google voice). awesome.
I put up with this for a couple weeks 'cause i'm used to the S&M relationship US mobile customers have with their wireless providers (post-paid, anyway) and finally called to ***** a little. turns out that while at&t would rather we all suffer at the hands of their inept decision making by removing any kind of switch from our devices, they will make manual adjustment for those who cry loud enough. If you really want LTE gone, you can ask for an 'inset lock to 2g/3g' which will prevent your device from seeking out LTE towers to connect to. I made mention of APN's and at least one rep indicated that this made that change, but I couldn't be sure this is an actual edit to the APN on your device.
LTE is nice for the 2% of the time I can actually use it, but the other 98% it sucks donkey ballz... at least the way at&t has done it in SLC.
hope this helps someone.
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you could move closer to the cell tower
would you like some cheese with your wine,lol
I just got a HTC One on T mobile and waiting to port my number from ATT but the data speeds using speedtest are abysmal less than 500kb and sometimes not even connecting at all. I decided to just test the browser to see if real usage makes a difference not just in the speedtest app and same result web pages taking too long to load and sometimes time out because of slow connection.
I'm in Daly City/San Francisco area, before deciding to switch I did my research and Tmobile coverage shows I should be in "excellent" 4g speeds here where I live.
Before I run back to the store and return it and stay with AT&T , is there something I can do to check the correct APN settings or what else can i do ? I'm disappointed so far, I wanted to try T mobile because of their no contract and cheaper plan but at these data speeds it's just not worth it.
Thanks for any advice / help.
Been seeing great speeds here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2247966
But try out a demo phone in the store and test the speed. It might be the phone, or the tower (temporarily) you're connected to. SF is a market with great speed. I've seen speed tests from ppl around. Definitely better the AT&T's HSPA+ speeds.
last night I posted great speeds, today I'm down to 2g although in a different geographical area.
earlier today I lost all data connectivity, it was something wrong with TMO's system. support had to "hook something up" behind the scenes for me to get it back.
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Update: I noticed that the phone was defaulting to 2g. No matter what, it stayed there.
Using tips from this thread: http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/37862
I went to Settings > Mobile Data > Network Mode and switched it to WCDMA Only.
The data connection re-set and went to 4g.
Repeating the above step, I went back to GSM/WCDMA/LTE Auto, and the phone reset data and got back on 4g.
I think this all had something to do with this morning's outage.
Tmobile tends to have outages sometimes, a few days ago the network in Dallas was down and I was getting horrible speeds. I say that you wait a bit and see if there is any improvement in the next couple of days. Also maybe call in to make sure that your sim is fully activated.
I'll just leave this..
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HSPA+ in South Seattle area (up to 15mbps down). Can't wait for some LTE here soon.
J-Hop2o6 said:
HSPA+ in South Seattle area (up to 15mbps down). Can't wait for some LTE here soon.
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Don't like Tmobile
spade56 said:
Don't like Tmobile
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?? What's the purpose of this post and quoting me?
Thinking about making the switch from Sprint (EVO LTE) to T-Mobile and the HTC One. I'm in the Seattle area (Federal Way/Milton) and commute back and forth to downtown Seattle (5th and Pike) every week day. How's the coverage and speed along the I5 corridor? I've looked at the sensorly data and it looks solid, but just really wanting to get a real world feel from a user.
Thanks!
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Thinking about making the switch from Sprint (EVO LTE) to T-Mobile and the HTC One. I'm in the Seattle area (Federal Way/Milton) and commute back and forth to downtown Seattle (5th and Pike) every week day. How's the coverage and speed along the I5 corridor? I've looked at the sensorly data and it looks solid, but just really wanting to get a real world feel from a user.
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The Puget Sound I-5 corridor has great Tmo coverage and speed. Never have problems streaming music in my car via bluetooth. Plus LTE in and around Seattle should launch in the next couple of months.
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The Puget Sound I-5 corridor has great Tmo coverage and speed. Never have problems streaming music in my car via bluetooth. Plus LTE in and around Seattle should launch in the next couple of months.
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I was already getting LTE in the factoria mall area near T-Mobile head quarters. I was getting speeds around 25Mbps down. I think we are close to lte roll out across all Seattle area, I spoke to a T-Mobile rep in Bellevue store and he says it should be sometime in May.
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I was already getting LTE in the factoria mall area near T-Mobile head quarters. I was getting speeds around 25Mbps down. I think we are close to lte roll out across all Seattle area, I spoke to a T-Mobile rep in Bellevue store and he says it should be sometime in May.
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Glad to hear :victory:
alus415 said:
I just got a HTC One on T mobile and waiting to port my number from ATT but the data speeds using speedtest are abysmal less than 500kb and sometimes not even connecting at all. I decided to just test the browser to see if real usage makes a difference not just in the speedtest app and same e of slow connection.
I'm in Daly City/San Francisco area, before deciding to switch I did my research and Tmobile coverage shows I should be in "excellent" 4g speeds here where I live.
Before I run back to the store and return it and stay with AT&T , is there something I can do to check the correct APN settings or what else can i do ? I'm disappointed so far, I wanted to try T mobile because of their no contract and cheaper plan but at these data speeds it's just not worth it.
Thanks for any advice / help.
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I and my wife recently purchased One's moving from Sprint to T-Mobile. We live in Oakland. Our speeds are similarly slow. Actually, in the week I've had the phone I've rarely had speeds much higher than 400kbs down. Strangely, upload speeds are usually three times faster. This is from inside my apartment where I typically have 2 bars of 4g...three bars every now and then. These speeds are horrible. I called T-Mobile who responded by dispatching an engineer to the tower I use. Within 24 hrs the speeds almost doubled however T-Mobile's feedback was there were no issues. But after a couple of days speeds had declined back to an avg of 350kbs down with upload speeds still 3x download speeds. In my experience, whenever upload speeds are consistently and significantly faster than download speeds and the download speeds are far below what is expected, then either there is a problem with the network or the network is being actively reconfigured.
Assuming I might just be in a "dead" spot due to geography I decided to test speeds in I my neighborhood as I walk my dog. There are no tall buildings or anything I could see to cause much interference. On my street the speed was about the same as inside. About 1/4 mile from my apt the signal was very strong lighting all 5 bars...but speeds only increased slightly. Throughout the area I walked (1/2 circle around my home with radius of 3/4 mile) the signal strength ranged from 2-3 bars fluctuating to 5 solid bars. But there was not much correlation between data download speed and number of bars. In some places 4g speed was as fast as 10Mbs and a bit down the block it could be low as 400Kbs. The speeds were duplicateable...meaning in front of one house speed might be 5Mbs and a speeds in front of a house say 6 houses down the block speed may be 1Mbs. Those speeds would be pretty much the same when I returned later on another walk.
The most surprising discovery is there is a narrow area about 5 houses wide that had LTE. In that small area the speeds were slightly greater than 20Mbs down and 10Mbs up.
The results lead me to believe T-Mobile is actively fumbling with their towers to get LTE quickly, yet attempting to do so as quietly as possible. Due to my disappointment at the painfully slow data speeds I would consider returning the One's firing T-Mobile and moving on. However, the discovery of LTE 1 1/2 blocks from my home AND MAYBE EVEN MORE IMPORTANTLY no real alternative for an "unlimited" data plan that makes financial sense to me (Sprint is nolonger an option since their network is almost unusable)...has me pretty excited as to what my T-Moble experience will be. I hope they aim that LTE antenna in my direction.
@chakathebird:
Wow, I'm in Hayward which is not too far from Oakland and I also switched from Sprint (which is just awful in the Bay Area these days). On Sprint I was lucky to get over 400kbps on 3G and I couldn't even get 4G LTE. (Although 4G WiMax on my old GS2 was fantastic for me). On T-Mobile 4G HSPA I get 8Mbps down / 3 Mbps up on my HTC One and similar speeds on my Nexus 4. With those great speeds I normally just leave LTE turned off on the One, but I did do a speed test with LTE turned on and got 11Mbps down / 6Mbps up.
I work in the South Bay, but sometimes head over the bridge to San Francisco and travel throughout the Bay Area. Everywhere I go I get similarly fantastic speeds on T-Mobile. So if you are getting such slow speeds there is definitely something wrong with either your phone or the tower in your neighborhood. I'd take the phone to other nearby towns and see if you're getting similar bad speeds. If so, I'd have T-Mobile exchange the phone as it may be defective.
I'm in the Northern VA area and there is some LTE. If I'm not driving around and sitting in one place, I can stay on LTE, but driving around, it's bouncing in and out of LTE which just shuts off data all together. So i turned off LTE till they get more towers updated.
On a side note, the radio in the HTC one seems really nice. At my house I can get 13Mb/s down on the HTC but I can only get 6Mb/s down on my data stick sitting beside me. Both connected at HSPA+.
I am not even running on LTE here in NJ and I am still impressed with the speed. It actually comes pretty close to my friend's GS3 on Verizon with LTE.
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That being said...I still can't wait to have LTE here in the NYC area. If HSPA+ is this good then LTE should be ridiculous.
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I apologize if this is a duplicate...only did a cursory seacrh, not a deep one. It wasn't there yesterday (or at least, I didn't notice because I was stuck in meetings all day), but today I noticed the "4G LTE" icon on my One. Am very excited! Only getting 2 bars now, so I'll hold off on a speed test. Still...I'm happy to see this.
Anyone else in the Boston area just notice this?
I'm getting 2G / Nothing in my house in Waltham.. which is why I rely on wifi calling.. which is why i'm not using 4.2.2
good to know we're getting close though.
4g LTE Boston
I am currently at work in Boston near copley and I am picking up 4g LTE. Used the opensignal app to verify and it confirmed it. Speeds arent great yet but it says LTE
I got it in Everett, MA
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I apologize if this is a duplicate...only did a cursory seacrh, not a deep one. It wasn't there yesterday (or at least, I didn't notice because I was stuck in meetings all day), but today I noticed the "4G LTE" icon on my One. Am very excited! Only getting 2 bars now, so I'll hold off on a speed test. Still...I'm happy to see this.
Anyone else in the Boston area just notice this?
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An hour ago just noticed the LTE sign by T-mobile carrier in My iphone 5 IOS 7 and I got it in Everett, MA but not in Medford, MA.
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An hour ago just noticed the LTE sign by T-mobile carrier in My iphone 5 IOS 7 and I got it in Everett, MA but not in Medford, MA.
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It's interesting. I take a train from the northshore into Boston so I can see some areas have it and some don't. Where I live in Beverly does not. Salem, no, parts of Lynn, yes, part of Chelsea, yes. North Station: didn't notice as I was getting on a shuttle to work. Close to my work near south station, yes.
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It's interesting. I take a train from the northshore into Boston so I can see some areas have it and some don't. Where I live in Beverly does not. Salem, no, parts of Lynn, yes, part of Chelsea, yes. North Station: didn't notice as I was getting on a shuttle to work. Close to my work near south station, yes.
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I work in downtown (in City Hall Plaza) however I keep my phone on WCDMA to lock into HSPA. However, after reading this I decided to switch back to Auto mode to see what kind of signal I would pick up. I live in Hyde Park. I just ran out to my local Shaws and picked up LTE! I did 3 speedtest and was able to pull down 10 megs and up 9 megs per sec. Very exciting. I'm simply looking forward to a more stable network with robust speeds. Locked in to WCDMA and I can down between 5-9 megs and up 3 megs in Quincy, Brockton. I'll be keeping my phone on Auto more often now. Personally, I find the network as a whole to be a mixed back. On average when my phone is locked to WCDMA, I'm averaging 2-3 megs down and 1 meg up. HD videos load just fine on YouTube...
Glad I checked out your post!
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I work in downtown (in City Hall Plaza) however I keep my phone on WCDMA to lock into HSPA. However, after reading this I decided to switch back to Auto mode to see what kind of signal I would pick up. I live in Hyde Park. I just ran out to my local Shaws and picked up LTE! I did 3 speedtest and was able to pull down 10 megs and up 9 megs per sec. Very exciting. I'm simply looking forward to a more stable network with robust speeds. Locked in to WCDMA and I can down between 5-9 megs and up 3 megs in Quincy, Brockton. I'll be keeping my phone on Auto more often now. Personally, I find the network as a whole to be a mixed back. On average when my phone is locked to WCDMA, I'm averaging 2-3 megs down and 1 meg up. HD videos load just fine on YouTube...
Glad I checked out your post!
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I stand corrected: I get about 2 bars of 4G LTE here at home. Now, I only had two bars (didn't do a more exact, rigorous check. Hey, it's Saturday morning) of LTE, at most, during the speedtest, and it dropped down to one for have of the duration. Still, the results were promising even with the diminished throughput: about 10 down and 6.5 up. Not bad for a couple of bars! The trick is what's going to happen when everyone else figures it out.
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I stand corrected: I get about 2 bars of 4G LTE here at home. Now, I only had two bars (didn't do a more exact, rigorous check. Hey, it's Saturday morning) of LTE, at most, during the speedtest, and it dropped down to one for have of the duration. Still, the results were promising even with the diminished throughput: about 10 down and 6.5 up. Not bad for a couple of bars! The trick is what's going to happen when everyone else figures it out.
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I share the same concern, however I really just want a solid network with great coverage and solid speeds. I haven't had any real issues with T Mobile's network and since my HD2 days my experience has been good. I find their HSPA and plus network to be pretty good, I just wish I had better coverage throughout Mass. Every now and then a YouTube video (always in HD) will take around 10 seconds to load but for the majority of my experience, hiccups and stutters are far in between.
So, looking forward to this LTE network. Although it may not be the fastest, if I can have speeds consistently in the 5 meg range, I would be very happy. I am so sick and tired of my phone and my wife's GS4 on 2g from time to time which is why I keep mine locked in WCDMA mode.
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I am currently at work in Boston near copley and I am picking up 4g LTE. Used the opensignal app to verify and it confirmed it. Speeds arent great yet but it says LTE
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That speed test app Sucks so much. The numbers are never true
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Traveling through Boston to get to downtown... My route included parts of Hyde Park and Dorchester. I'm currently in my office which is on the 16th floor inside of City Hall Plaza and I'm picking up between 1 and 2 bars of LTE. A quick Speed Test (3 total) and my results are sporadic. My best score was 13/down and 11/up.
Excited to see a real effort on behalf of T Mobile.
I'm in downtown Boston at 60 State Street, and in my office on the 4th floor I'm getting an occasional 1 bar of 4G LTE but then it goes back to just 4G before I can test it out. That's unfortunate because their 4G in my office is painfully slow. (Unlike at home in Waltham where it's very, very fast.)
I'll see if I get a more reliable LTE signal when I head out to lunch later. Here's hoping they beef it up soon so I can start using it at work regularly!
Holy crapnuts! Speed!
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I'm in downtown Boston at 60 State Street, and in my office on the 4th floor I'm getting an occasional 1 bar of 4G LTE but then it goes back to just 4G before I can test it out. That's unfortunate because their 4G in my office is painfully slow. (Unlike at home in Waltham where it's very, very fast.)
I'll see if I get a more reliable LTE signal when I head out to lunch later. Here's hoping they beef it up soon so I can start using it at work regularly!
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Wow. NOW we're playing with some power. Stayed at home today and attended a meeting remotely. Grabbed lunch in downtown Beverly and grabbed these results. Very pleased. 27.7 down and 9.9 up...not too shabby!
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Boom goes the dynamite.
i am in Everett, MA and get LTE according to my Galaxy S4 at least. According to the Tmobile data coverage map i am right on the border between excellent(best possible) and very strong(2nd best). Have tested my speeds quite a few times over the last 3 weeks and consistently my down is slower than my up, just tested again and get 10 down and 12 up according to ookla speedtest and about half of that (but still up being faster than down) with opensignal app(although i wouldn't trust tests with opensignal app since it reports my home wifi being 11/8 while ookla correctly shows 85/24) . My friend with Galaxy S3 swears he got almost 50 down while walking in downtown Boston once on LTE about a week ago, hope those speeds come to my neck of the woods @ some point. Any phone optimisation tricks to make LTE/4G bit faster? Would like to justify paying extra $20 for unlimited 4G/LTE data(and if i got over 25/x on average on it i would def. add unlimited option)
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i am in Everett, MA and get LTE according to my Galaxy S4 at least. According to the Tmobile data coverage map i am right on the border between excellent(best possible) and very strong(2nd best). Have tested my speeds quite a few times over the last 3 weeks and consistently my down is slower than my up, just tested again and get 10 down and 12 up according to ookla speedtest and about half of that (but still up being faster than down) with opensignal app(although i wouldn't trust tests with opensignal app since it reports my home wifi being 11/8 while ookla correctly shows 85/24) . My friend with Galaxy S3 swears he got almost 50 down while walking in downtown Boston once on LTE about a week ago, hope those speeds come to my neck of the woods @ some point. Any phone optimisation tricks to make LTE/4G bit faster? Would like to justify paying extra $20 for unlimited 4G/LTE data(and if i got over 25/x on average on it i would def. add unlimited option)
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I don't know how much this will help you but there is a thread (can't find it right now, on my phone) that shows how to change your APN from the default settings to creating a new one that has less traffic epc.tmobile.com
Since I've changed this setting I've experienced greater LTE AND HSPA+, consistently. I too live in Boston and was actually in the Everett area yesterday and had excellent service down there.
If you need extra help, let me know
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I don't know how much this will help you but there is a thread (can't find it right now, on my phone) that shows how to change your APN from the default settings to creating a new one that has less traffic epc.tmobile.com
Since I've changed this setting I've experienced greater LTE AND HSPA+, consistently. I too live in Boston and was actually in the Everett area yesterday and had excellent service down there.
If you need extra help, let me know
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thank you for this info. My default APN is indeed fast.x. I changed to epc.x according to these instructions by creating new APN set so can always switch between fast.x and epc.x and here are the preliminary results:
Tested with ookla app right before change and average out of 3 was 10/11 (Down/Up)
Right after the change(no reboot) and switch to epc.x APN set average 10/11 (exactly the same)
After restart and verifying thats still on new epc APN set - ookla has reported 17/10 (on the right track?? highest down before i ever got was 12)
Switched to back fast.x APN set and ookla reported 18/10 (WTF???)
Restart again and on both epc and fast ookla reported 6/8(even worse than before)
everything was done within 10 min window. Could i be too far from nearest LTE tower? Network Signal app shows the signal as LTE(on both fast.x and epc.x) and dBm of -93(although also shows 3/4 signal bars). Open Signal app shows LTE and dBm -75 and while better than NS app still quite bad. According to Open Signal cell tower map i am less than 1 block away from a nearest cell tower though and about 1.5 blocks away from another tower exactly on the other side.
4G LTE - Saint Louis, Mo
FINALLY!!!! As we were traveling from St. Charles County to Shilo, Il ... Noticed my HTC One finally showed 4G LTE.... I noticed the 4G LTE symbol after we passed the Lambert. Then got really geeked-up and did a speed-test...
"2013-08-30 06:13","Lte","38.63080","-90.18349",1255,364,68,"Tempe, AZ","21.85.222.202","208.54.40.215"
"2013-08-30 06:11","Lte","38.63080","-90.18349",3772,342,37,"Tempe, AZ","21.85.222.202","208.54.40.215"
"2013-08-30 06:10","Lte","38.63397","-90.18629",8182,5811,41,"Tempe, AZ","21.85.222.202","208.54.40.215"
"2013-08-30 06:10","Lte","38.64276","-90.18902",12377,5397,40,"Tempe, AZ","21.85.222.202","208.54.40.215"
"2013-08-30 06:09","Lte","38.65115","-90.19327",5209,4254,38,"Tempe, AZ","21.85.222.202","208.54.40.215"
"2013-08-30 06:08","Lte","38.65999","-90.19670",9385,5469,37,"Tempe, AZ","21.85.222.202","208.54.40.215"
The improvement seem to have spanned out to "push-out" the 2G speeds I was getting in Fairview heights, IL... Really Excited about this.... Now All's t-mob needs to do is build a dedicated connection alone major highway networks.
4G LTE... YEAH! Next test is Wentzville and Lake Saint Louis area
I work in Lynn, and I've been getting 11-12mb down on average for the last few days. Today I felt like my connection was a little slow, do I ran speed test and get this- 4.2 down/9.6 up! Wut?
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I work in Lynn, and I've been getting 11-12mb down on average for the last few days. Today I felt like my connection was a little slow, do I ran speed test and get this- 4.2 down/9.6 up! Wut?
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Well, let us not forget that T-Mobile is still in "Roll out" phase when it comes to LTE. During this phase, we can't expect that the overall experience will always be the best. There will be time where depending on the towers upgrade status, network congestion, utilization and more you will experience slower speeds.
I say, don't judge the network because of one day of sub-par performance, give it some time, and you will notice the improvements.
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Well, let us not forget that T-Mobile is still in "Roll out" phase when it comes to LTE. During this phase, we can't expect that the overall experience will always be the best. There will be time where depending on the towers upgrade status, network congestion, utilization and more you will experience slower speeds.
I say, don't judge the network because of one day of sub-par performance, give it some time, and you will notice the improvements.
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Spoken like a true T-Mobile employee, lol... No, I just thought it was weird. I'd never seen higher upload speeds than download before.
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