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Mods, I'd have liked to have posted this as a reply to Andybones' thread, but I'm under 10 posts, so please move as needed.
So, I got my Rezound from eBay and figured I'd root it and update it.
Went through the HTC Unlock Bootloader process.
Setup Perm Root
Installed Amon Ra Recovery 3.1.3
Allowed OTA to take place to get to 2.01.605.11.
Went into Amon Ra and had it install superuser and su.
Figured it was an eBay phone and should be wiped clean, so from bootloader did a Factory Reset
After it rebooted a few times, phone came up and "Wifi Error". Everything else working perfectly- 3g, 4g, voice, bluetooth... just no WiFi. Unable to stop or start it in settings GUI.
Hunted online for "WiFi Error" and Rezound and found a few posts asking about clearing cache and dalvik; another few were referencing Kernel and/or module installs.
Cleared cache and dalvik to no avail.
Searched for 2.01.605.11 Kernel and found Andybones post. Installed the Kernel and Wifi was working with everything else again.
So the question-- now that it is fixed and working-- what the heck happened to have broken my WiFi for that duration? Was it when I did the Factory Reset that I somehow screwed up my Wifi Kernel Module? If so, how? Did Factory Reset install some older module or Kernel? Or, was there something broken in my OTA? I saw mention of one other person whose WiFi was broken after OTA to 2.01.605.11-- he also resolved by using the Andybones post to install the Kernel.
Unfortunately, after seeing that the WiFi wasn't working, I didn't think to check what Settings showed for my Kernel, or to try checking mass storage for file dates or versions-- I know those could probably have helped in ascertaining what occurred.
Anybody else experience WiFi broken after OTA?
Thanks in advance!
After I got the OTA I restored my Ineffabilis GB nand and didn't have working wifi even though I flashed the original 1.x stock kernel with it. I didn't get it working until I flashed the dsb kernel, which I had been running when I made my nand. I suspect that is because installing that kernel is more than just flashing the boot.img, there's an install using other folders that happens before the boot.img flash so I guess it is altering something else.
(I didn't try flashing the modules for the new kernel since I wasn't trying to use the new kernel, at that point I was wondering why I couldn't get wifi with the same kernels others were getting it on the same ROM.)
However, even when I did a clean flash of Ineffabilis I had the same problem of not having wifi even with the stock rooted kernel posted with that ROM. I would think at that point I would not have had any traces of the dsb kernel but that was the only thing that got me wifi so I have to assume that had something to do with it.
I would think you would have had wifi working on stock OTA since you should have had the 2.x kernel and everything else.
So it would seem that both of us had broken wifi in instances when it would seem we should have had working wifi, albeit for possible different reasons. I too would like to know why. I like fixes but I prefer to know why they work and what is being fixed.
Are you willing to factory reset again? I'm thinking of going back to stock OTA again and starting over with my ROM and seeing about switching kernels. One of my concerns in my situation is am I going to be able to switch from the dsb kernel if that's the only one that got my wifi working now? Others had wifi working with other 1.x kernel using the same ROM so I know the others work, just not on my phone atm.
feralicious said:
After I got the OTA I restored my Ineffabilis GB nand and didn't have working wifi even though I flashed the original 1.x stock kernel with it. I didn't get it working until I flashed the dsb kernel, which I had been running when I made my nand. I suspect that is because installing that kernel is more than just flashing the boot.img, there's an install using other folders that happens before the boot.img flash so I guess it is altering something else.
(I didn't try flashing the modules for the new kernel since I wasn't trying to use the new kernel, at that point I was wondering why I couldn't get wifi with the same kernels others were getting it on the same ROM.)
However, even when I did a clean flash of Ineffabilis I had the same problem of not having wifi even with the stock rooted kernel posted with that ROM. I would think at that point I would not have had any traces of the dsb kernel but that was the only thing that got me wifi so I have to assume that had something to do with it.
I would think you would have had wifi working on stock OTA since you should have had the 2.x kernel and everything else.
So it would seem that both of us had broken wifi in instances when it would seem we should have had working wifi, albeit for possible different reasons. I too would like to know why. I like fixes but I prefer to know why they work and what is being fixed.
Are you willing to factory reset again? I'm thinking of going back to stock OTA again and starting over with my ROM and seeing about switching kernels. One of my concerns in my situation is am I going to be able to switch from the dsb kernel if that's the only one that got my wifi working now? Others had wifi working with other 1.x kernel using the same ROM so I know the others work, just not on my phone atm.
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dsb's kernel installs wifi modules, so since u made the nand using that kernel, that is why u got an error, until u added original stock 1x kernel wifi modules ud get an error.. or flash dsb's kernel like u did.
also when u did a fresh install of ineffibiliss is does install wifi kernel modules, but no a kernel. so you would of still had dsb's kernel even after doing a full fresh instal of inefibiliss. flashing the stock 1x kernel would fix wifi as it has the stock 1x wifi modules.
this is why when people updated to the OTA, and had the new kernel and then did a nand, or a fresh install of ineffibiliss they had wifi error, they needed the new OTA wifi modules.
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dsb's kernel installs wifi modules, so since u made the nand using that kernel, that is why u got an error, until u added original stock 1x kernel wifi modules ud get an error.. or flash dsb's kernel like u did.
also when u did a fresh install of ineffibiliss is does install wifi kernel modules, but no a kernel. so you would of still had dsb's kernel even after doing a full fresh instal of inefibiliss. flashing the stock 1x kernel would fix wifi as it has the stock 1x wifi modules.
this is why when people updated to the OTA, and had the new kernel and then did a nand, or a fresh install of ineffibiliss they had wifi error, they needed the new OTA wifi modules.
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But the only way I could get wifi back was flashing dsb. That's why I'm wondering about what that extra stuff is in the dsb package. After going stock I flashed the original stock rooted kernel that was posted with the ROM before and after flashing Ineffabilis again and still no wifi. But others who did those same steps did have wifi. This makes me concerned about being able to switch from dsb. I want to go back to stock anyway and start fresh since my status bar is crashing and uninstalling the apps I installed right before that started hasn't fixed it. So I'll experiment some more.
Trust me, I get what you're saying and it makes sense, unfortunately that hasn't been the case which is what all my previous posts were about.
Also the OP was completely stock and didn't have wifi and that doesn't fit the equation either.
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But the only way I could get wifi back was flashing dsb. That's why I'm wondering about what that extra stuff is in the dsb package. After going stock I flashed the original stock rooted kernel that was posted with the ROM before and after flashing Ineffabilis again and still no wifi. But others who did those same steps did have wifi. This makes me concerned about being able to switch from dsb. I want to go back to stock anyway and start fresh since my status bar is crashing and uninstalling the apps I installed right before that started hasn't fixed it. So I'll experiment some more.
Trust me, I get what you're saying and it makes sense, unfortunately that hasn't been the case which is what all my previous posts were about.
Also the OP was completely stock and didn't have wifi and that doesn't fit the equation either.
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i had this problem a few times...the last two times i think it was because i had wifi tether on then stupidly i turned on verizon tether app and so wifi and verizon mobile hotspot/wifi tether stopped working and kept giving an error message...i had to flash a version of incredikernel i had laying on my card and everything worked fine..kind of wierd but whatever lol and once i believed it just happened out of nowhere so i just reflashed everything..that time wiping and flashing the rom all over again worked but all other times i needed to flash a kernel. i believe i was running clean rom all those times and once happened on ICS i think..running the latest clean rom 1.6.5 and havent had those issues yet( knock on wood)
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I would think you would have had wifi working on stock OTA since you should have had the 2.x kernel and everything else.
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That's what I'd have thought, too. I am/was completely stock and my update was OTA. Didn't touch any 3rd party kernels or ROMs. I want to make sure phone works as intended before considering messing with other ROMs/Kernels.
EDIT: Found this older thread which is very similar -- mods can probably close mine or migrate the posts over to the older one since my query resembles what SquireSCA experienced.
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Are you willing to factory reset again?
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Yeah, tempted to give it a shot after doing an Amon Ra backup to see if it was the factory reset that did me in. I can head back to the Andybones kernel thread to recover again if needed. Probably not going to test it right away though. Still settling in with the phone.
One variable that I didn't consider-- when I did my OTA-- I did not re-lock the bootloader prior. Any possibility of correlation?
I would say that's very possible. I didn't relock the first time so I redid the update using con247's Stock OTA ROM with his update file.
I have a nand of my phone from right after I did my OTA without relocking. When I get around to doing my fresh installs I will restore that and check it to see if I have the same issue. I'll probably do it when I get back home later tonight. I'll post back afterwards to let you know.
So I just restored my nand from when I went back to stock recovery, ROM and kernel (all 1.x) and then accepted OTA. wifi was broken until I flashed the new 2.x stock kernel. That was from when I got the OTA without relocking the phone. I meant to check what the kernel said before I flashed the 2.x stock one but forgot. Argh... now I want to go back to Ineff and do this again to check it.
EDIT: Well, I went back to my stock OTA nand again and the kernel shows as dsb. So I can't replicate what I did earlier since I had flashed the stock kernel before getting the OTA and I guess the nand doesn't back up/restore the kernel.
I don't know what condition wifi was in when I made the nand since I didn't know to check and I just made that as a safety copy and went back to Ineffabilis right away.
I did flash the stock 2.x kernel to get wifi working on stock OTA, then restored my Ineffabilis nand and again, the only way to get my wifi back was to flash the dsb kernel. The stock rooted kernel that came with Ineffabilis didn't do it. Gonna go post on the dsb forum and see what they say. Also, tomorrow I'm going to run the RUU and factory reset and try to get this thing totally clean and see if I can use a different kernel than dsb. Ineff was just updated to 2.x so perhaps flashing the new ROM will break the chains.
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I would say that's very possible. I didn't relock the first time so I redid the update using con247's Stock OTA ROM with his update file.
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Soooo... I was reading some of the ICS threads and getting really curious about installing. Saw a post by someone mentioning they're on baseband 0.95.00.1118r. Went to check mine, and I'm on 0.95.00.1017_2r . Checked the Verizon site and OTA 2.01.605.11 provides 0.95.00.1118r . Did some more digging to figure out how I got left behind using the official OTA and came upon this post:
Baseband does not update without a re-lock first.
EDIT: found plan of attack via http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1467329 and will give it a shot this evening.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1467329&highlight=ota+update
Read the last part of the first post.
EmerikL said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1467329&highlight=ota+update
Read the last part of the first post.
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Thanks!
Off-topic: Any alternatives to using Filefactory or Dev-host to download the RUU? Has anyone done a sniff during the OTAs to see what URL is used to download the RUU? Does VZW restrict what IPs/MACs can download the updates? Or do they use a proprietary protocol? Or are the updates strictly via their CDMA/LTE, without WiFi?
Mission accomplished-- I now have radio 0.95.00.1118r on my 2.01.605.11.
I did follow the http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1467329 directions, and I'm posting the commands used for future ref in case needed again:
1) downloaded vigorOTAStockRooted.zip after midnight pacific time (download didn't die) and then copied it to the sdcard.
2) {boot into Amon Ra} adb reboot recovery
a. backup everything
b. install vigorOTAStockRooted.zip
3) {install drops the ph98img.zip file on external sdcard-- but it won't install with unlocked bootloader. need to lock the bootloader} fastboot oem lock
4) {installation finished up, let phone boot up and prep it with devel setting} settings/applications/development/usb debugging
5) {go into bootloader} adb reboot bootloader
6) {get token to submit to htcdev.com; once displayed, plop in the token, and wait for email} fastboot oem get_identifier_token
7) {once email with token received, flash it} fastboot flash unlocktoken Unlock_code.bin
8) {let phone boot up and prep it with devel setting} settings/applications/development/usb debugging
9) {reboot into bootloader to install Amon Ra Recovery} adb reboot bootloader
10) {install Amon Ra} fastboot flash recovery recovery-ra-vigor-3.14-gnm.img
11) {enter recovery - from HTC bootloader, go to recovery} select menu item to go to recovery
12) {restore} from Amon Ra recovery, restore the backup from step 2a and then reboot
I was listening to music on my Evo 3D over bluetooth today, when I put it in my pocket and paused the music. After going back to my phone, I noticed it had reboot itself, and now it's stuck on a boot loop. Does this sound familiar to anyone? I can't think of any reason why it would boot loop like this. Wiping cache+dalvik doesn't fix the boot loop. After clearing cache+dalvik and booting the phone, it does go to the screen saying that Android is updating apps, but as soon as it finishes it goes right back to the boot loop. I'd appreciate any assistance in figuring this out. Thanks!
it happened to me the other day. i was using CM10.1 Wild for the night along with Saring Gas Kernel. i managed to fix this by wiping everything manually instead of using a superwipe, and then flashing again. and then i had this issue with MidNight Rom CM10.1 where whenever i turned bluetooth on, after turning it off the phone would freeze, reboot and then bootloop. however the Dev had specified that bluetooth was broken.
if the boot loop is at the Rom's boot animation, and you cant fix this by deleting Cache, Dalvik and Data, then you will certainly have to wipe it all and flash again. hopefully you had all you data backed up.
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it happened to me the other day. i was using CM10.1 Wild for the night along with Saring Gas Kernel. i managed to fix this by wiping everything manually instead of using a superwipe, and then flashing again. and then i had this issue with MidNight Rom CM10.1 where whenever i turned bluetooth on, after turning it off the phone would freeze, reboot and then bootloop. however the Dev had specified that bluetooth was broken.
if the boot loop is at the Rom's boot animation, and you cant fix this by deleting Cache, Dalvik and Data, then you will certainly have to wipe it all and flash again. hopefully you had all you data backed up.
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Yeah, I ultimately had to restore from a backup. This is an almost stock ICS rom, deodex plus a few other apps baked into the ROM, and the stock kernel.
Now this doesn't happen every single time I turn the screen off with bluetooth turned on, or every time I turn off bluetooth. This is just a random boot loop that hits out of nowhere. Since I can't figure out what causes it, I was hoping someone who had encountered it would know.
while i cant point out the exact cause, these random bootloops happen due to file system errors, or namely the kernel. but you say you had stock kernel, so if it was not overclocked or tempered with then that cant be it.
in my case, for example, last night i overclocked my phone to 1.8GHz and set the governor to performance, I/O to vr. turned the phone off and forgot to lower the settings or to increase voltage, and then when i turned it on the phone was in a bootloop. went to recovery and it said that cache was unreadable, suggesting a full wipe. what happened here was that the kernel settings i had used were saved in cache, so when i tried to boot with such high settings without the proper power for the cpu, the phone just couldnt boot. i wiped cache and the kernel settings got restored to default. so it booted.
another example was that i flashed an update.zip that was corrupted. the phone booted and behaved normally. then when i loaded any of the apps from the update.zip the phone would freeze, reboot and boot loop.
and then theres this one, my EVO could run every ICS rom perfectly, but every single 4.1+ rom i used had bugs, lag, visual glitches, and whatnot. i tried wiping multiple times, redownloading the roms, etc. in the end nothing helped. then i tried a superwipe which checks the filesystem for errors and optimizes it. after using that superwipe, every 4.1+ rom ran smoothly, and the ICS roms i had used benchmarked better than before
so if you say you got that boot loop randomly, and using stock kernel, i can safely assume that either the rom did not flashed properly, or that your EVO has some file system errors. you could try either a new fresh install or using a superwipe and flash your Nand, but if it was me, i would use superwipe, then manually wipe everything, and fresh install the rom. if the nand backup you installed after the bootloop was from the same install as the one who gave you the bootloop, then its a safe bet that it could happen again. i would backup all my apps and data, and do as i said earlier.
hopefully this info helped you a little.
in case you would want to give it a shot, here is the superwipe i used.
like i said, just flash the file on recovery, you dont need to wipe beforehand. and after its flashed, i recommend you wipe but its not necessary. then just flash your rom, and other files if any, and boot. hope it helps.
(i was gonna link to the thread where i got the super wipe, but i forgot where i found it. anyways, credit goes to author)
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while i cant point out the exact cause, these random bootloops happen due to file system errors, or namely the kernel. but you say you had stock kernel, so if it was not overclocked or tempered with then that cant be it.
in my case, for example, last night i overclocked my phone to 1.8GHz and set the governor to performance, I/O to vr. turned the phone off and forgot to lower the settings or to increase voltage, and then when i turned it on the phone was in a bootloop. went to recovery and it said that cache was unreadable, suggesting a full wipe. what happened here was that the kernel settings i had used were saved in cache, so when i tried to boot with such high settings without the proper power for the cpu, the phone just couldnt boot. i wiped cache and the kernel settings got restored to default. so it booted.
another example was that i flashed an update.zip that was corrupted. the phone booted and behaved normally. then when i loaded any of the apps from the update.zip the phone would freeze, reboot and boot loop.
and then theres this one, my EVO could run every ICS rom perfectly, but every single 4.1+ rom i used had bugs, lag, visual glitches, and whatnot. i tried wiping multiple times, redownloading the roms, etc. in the end nothing helped. then i tried a superwipe which checks the filesystem for errors and optimizes it. after using that superwipe, every 4.1+ rom ran smoothly, and the ICS roms i had used benchmarked better than before
so if you say you got that boot loop randomly, and using stock kernel, i can safely assume that either the rom did not flashed properly, or that your EVO has some file system errors. you could try either a new fresh install or using a superwipe and flash your Nand, but if it was me, i would use superwipe, then manually wipe everything, and fresh install the rom. if the nand backup you installed after the bootloop was from the same install as the one who gave you the bootloop, then its a safe bet that it could happen again. i would backup all my apps and data, and do as i said earlier.
hopefully this info helped you a little.
in case you would want to give it a shot, here is the superwipe i used.
like i said, just flash the file on recovery, you dont need to wipe beforehand. and after its flashed, i recommend you wipe but its not necessary. then just flash your rom, and other files if any, and boot. hope it helps.
(i was gonna link to the thread where i got the super wipe, but i forgot where i found it. anyways, credit goes to author)
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Just FYI, the Wild For The Night OP specifically says do NOT use superwipes. Superwipe scripts and AOSP Roms don't always play together nicely. That's and CM Rom. Factory reset wipe in recovery is fine.
I am aware of that. But thanks for pointing it out. Althought I haven't had any problems with AOSP roms & superwipes when I wipe manually after the superwipe, only when I don't. But then again results may vary. At least in my case, I'm pretty satisfied with the results.
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Hi,
I'm having this issue where I get a pop-up window saying "Android is upgrading..." and "Starting applications..." every time I reboot the phone. It's not the same as when I wipe the dalvik cache where it states "Optimizing applications # through #" for about a minute or two on reboot. What I'm seeing is about 1 to 3 seconds.
I did a complete factory reset, re-flashed the ICS RUU as well as the ROM. It was fine in the beginning and for quite a while after I reinstalled my apps but it eventually came back.
I tried uninstalling apps a few at a time and it didn't change anything until I got down to the last four and then it went away. So, I then tried restoring from nandroid backup and just removing those four apps but it didn't work that time. The issue was unaffected.
I realize that the symptoms point to one or more of my apps but I was wondering if there is some kind of diagnostic logger that I can use to record whats happening during reboot that might offer some hints as to which one(s). One possible indirect culprit might be Superuser. I've had a permanent issue with updating the SU binary. When I do, I lose the ability to add new root apps. I keep root for existing root apps, but SU won't detect any requests from new apps. Therefore, I simply don't update the binary and I have no problems with new apps.
Any suggestions or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
RuLEoF2 said:
Hi,
I'm having this issue where I get a pop-up window saying "Android is upgrading..." and "Starting applications..." every time I reboot the phone. It's not the same as when I wipe the dalvik cache where it states "Optimizing applications # through #" for about a minute or two on reboot. What I'm seeing is about 1 to 3 seconds.
I did a complete factory reset, re-flashed the ICS RUU as well as the ROM. It was fine in the beginning and for quite a while after I reinstalled my apps but it eventually came back.
I tried uninstalling apps a few at a time and it didn't change anything until I got down to the last four and then it went away. So, I then tried restoring from nandroid backup and just removing those four apps but it didn't work that time. The issue was unaffected.
I realize that the symptoms point to one or more of my apps but I was wondering if there is some kind of diagnostic logger that I can use to record whats happening during reboot that might offer some hints as to which one(s). One possible indirect culprit might be Superuser. I've had a permanent issue with updating the SU binary. When I do, I lose the ability to add new root apps. I keep root for existing root apps, but SU won't detect any requests from new apps. Therefore, I simply don't update the binary and I have no problems with new apps.
Any suggestions or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
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1.) How did you root the rez? some are very picky 2.) are you using Titanium backup to restore system apps or using an app like kernel tuner?
I used the ICS RUU installation guide on TeamBAMF which walks you through using the HTC bootloader unlocker, flashing a recovery and a custom ROM. Later on, I used the S-OFF tool from JuopunutBear and flashed RezROM Ex 3.4.
I do use TBU but not to restore system apps or any data in general. I understood a long time ago that restoring data can lead to trouble so I rarely do it. I occasionally use TBU to restore user apps (no data) but have gotten into the habit of using the market links to get the app directly from the market.
RuLEoF2 said:
I used the ICS RUU installation guide on TeamBAMF which walks you through using the HTC bootloader unlocker, flashing a recovery and a custom ROM. Later on, I used the S-OFF tool from JuopunutBear and flashed RezROM Ex 3.4.
I do use TBU but not to restore system apps or any data in general. I understood a long time ago that restoring data can lead to trouble so I rarely do it. I occasionally use TBU to restore user apps (no data) but have gotten into the habit of using the market links to get the app directly from the market.
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what recovery are you using? Amon ra 3.1.6 has the su and superuser installer built in and ive never had issues....id also suggest after actually running an RUU.exe and not an OTA (ph98img file) to do the amon ra method and a pure clean flash...should fix your issue
Ok. I'll try your suggestion to help solve the Superuser problem, but what do you think about getting rid of the "upgrading" messages? Is there a way to record what the system is doing during reboot?
RuLEoF2 said:
Ok. I'll try your suggestion to help solve the Superuser problem, but what do you think about getting rid of the "upgrading" messages? Is there a way to record what the system is doing during reboot?
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if you are familliar with adb you can pull a logcat....to be honest though this does sound like either a bad or unclean flash of a rom or the whole rom itself
REV3NT3CH said:
if you are familliar with adb you can pull a logcat....to be honest though this does sound like either a bad or unclean flash of a rom or the whole rom itself
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You are correct that the re-flash will solve the problem, but only temporarily. If this was a first time occurrence, I agree that a pure clean re-flash is the best approach but I've already done that numerous times, well over a dozen in the past year or so.
Only a couple weeks ago I did a complete wipe of everything (factory reset, data, cache, dalvik cache, boot, system, rotate settings AND battery stats) and then re-flashed the RUU four (4) times back-to-back. The TeamBAMF guide says to flash it twice so I doubled it to be sure. I then flashed the ROM twice. That solved the "Updating" problem as it always has. However, once I finished re-installing my most frequently used apps, the problem came back.
It hasn't been consistent. It doesn't always come back. Doing the wipe and re-flash works about 50% of the time. I'll go months without it showing up again and then all of the sudden, there it is. It doesn't seem to correlate to the installation of any one particular app. I've tried installing only a few at a time and watching it but when it does come back, it never occurs until after I've installed my most basic line-up.
If there is any one activity that it seems to follow it is after I've had another issue (usually tinkering with a root app or mod and didn't like the way it turned out) and performed a wipe and nandroid restore. It doesn't come back every time, but it's on that initial reboot when I usually first notice it. In those cases, it's always hard to say whether the root app or mod caused the problem or did the wipe and restore do it.
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You are correct that the re-flash will solve the problem, but only temporarily. If this was a first time occurrence, I agree that a pure clean re-flash is the best approach but I've already done that numerous times, well over a dozen in the past year or so.
Only a couple weeks ago I did a complete wipe of everything (factory reset, data, cache, dalvik cache, boot, system, rotate settings AND battery stats) and then re-flashed the RUU four (4) times back-to-back. The TeamBAMF guide says to flash it twice so I doubled it to be sure. I then flashed the ROM twice. That solved the "Updating" problem as it always has. However, once I finished re-installing my most frequently used apps, the problem came back.
It hasn't been consistent. It doesn't always come back. Doing the wipe and re-flash works about 50% of the time. I'll go months without it showing up again and then all of the sudden, there it is. It doesn't seem to correlate to the installation of any one particular app. I've tried installing only a few at a time and watching it but when it does come back, it never occurs until after I've installed my most basic line-up.
If there is any one activity that it seems to follow it is after I've had another issue (usually tinkering with a root app or mod and didn't like the way it turned out) and performed a wipe and nandroid restore. It doesn't come back every time, but it's on that initial reboot when I usually first notice it. In those cases, it's always hard to say whether the root app or mod caused the problem or did the wipe and restore do it.
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which leads me to believe its a rom issue for that specific rom...ive never used that one so i cant verify thats what it for sure is....but having to flash the same rom twice for it to work seems like what can cause it in the first place because it already obviously clearly has some bugs...also flashing an RUU (which is a windows .exe based program...many people confuse this with an OTA ph98img file) is actually partitioning, wiping, and re installing the pure factory OS, HBOOT, and Recovery... which no recovery can do....which shouldnt be done directly before a rom install...a full thorough wipe in a custom recovery and then the install of the actual rom you are trying to obtain is how it should be done...to be honest though with how buggy this rom sounds id just suggest going to a new rom....which i have good suggestions for sense based ones
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which leads me to believe its a rom issue for that specific rom...ive never used that one so i cant verify thats what it for sure is....but having to flash the same rom twice for it to work seems like what can cause it in the first place because it already obviously clearly has some bugs...also flashing an RUU (which is a windows .exe based program...many people confuse this with an OTA ph98img file) is actually partitioning, wiping, and re installing the pure factory OS, HBOOT, and Recovery... which no recovery can do....which shouldnt be done directly before a rom install...a full thorough wipe in a custom recovery and then the install of the actual rom you are trying to obtain is how it should be done...to be honest though with how buggy this rom sounds id just suggest going to a new rom....which i have good suggestions for sense based ones
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Well, if you wouldn't mind offering some of your ROM suggestions and perhaps a sound RUU download source I'll give it a go and see what happens. I'm sure the initial results will be positive, it's the long-term that will be the real test.
One more piece of potentially useful information. I've converted one market app from user to system and froze, uninstalled or converted several user apps that were installed as system apps by the ROM. I read in one thread where someone had the same issue and a responder theorized that it could be from converting a user app to system. The responder followed saying the issue could be a symptom of the converted app not having corresponding "odex" files. I'm only a modest tinkerer and certainly not a developer so I'm not sure what that means or how important that is. However, I tried reversing the three conversions that I did and the issue persisted.
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Well, if you wouldn't mind offering some of your ROM suggestions and perhaps a sound RUU download source I'll give it a go and see what happens. I'm sure the initial results will be positive, it's the long-term that will be the real test.
One more piece of potentially useful information. I've converted one market app from user to system and froze, uninstalled or converted several user apps that were installed as system apps by the ROM. I read in one thread where someone had the same issue and a responder theorized that it could be from converting a user app to system. The responder followed saying the issue could be a symptom of the converted app not having corresponding "odex" files. I'm only a modest tinkerer and certainly not a developer so I'm not sure what that means or how important that is. However, I tried reversing the three conversions that I did and the issue persisted.
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if youve already used an ruu once you dont need to do it everytime you flash a rom....and depending on the rom certain recoveries wont work for them...good example amon ra will not work for JB or higher....if staying on ICS or sense based roms stick with amon ra only....im guessing your looking for a good Sense based rom correct?.....as for converting apps...i highly suggest against it on sense rom and can cause issues with the rom...on aosp its fine but sense just doesnt like some of them
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if youve already used an ruu once you dont need to do it everytime you flash a rom....and depending on the rom certain recoveries wont work for them...good example amon ra will not work for JB or higher....if staying on ICS or sense based roms stick with amon ra only....im guessing your looking for a good Sense based rom correct?.....as for converting apps...i highly suggest against it on sense rom and can cause issues with the rom...on aosp its fine but sense just doesnt like some of them
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My mistake, but I should have been more specific. I've only re-flashed the RUU three... maybe four times since I've owned the phone and only as a last resort to fix a problem that a wipe and/or ROM re-flash alone wasn't correcting.
As for recovery, I've only used Amon Ra on my Rezound. It's what was recommended in the Team BAMF guide and I've stuck with it. I do prefer a sense-based ROM and ICS works fine for me right now. The HTC Incredible was my first smart phone and I rooted that within a month of getting it. I tried a few ROMs but eventually settled on Skyraider which I really liked. RezROM is the only comperable ROM that I've come accross for the Rezound, but if you have recommendations, I'll give them a try.
Here's what I've done so far. The ICS RUU linked in the Team BAMF guide was an internal flash through the bootloader. To eliminate that as a possible cause, I found a couple .exe versions to run from my PC.
On the first run, I immediately flashed RezROM and used Amon Ra to install Superuser and SU as you suggested. I updated Superuser and then installed a few basic root apps: Titanium Backup, Root Explorer, QuickBoot, Busy Box, Root Checker and Root Validator. There were no issues until I starting using those root apps. I was periodically rebooting and it wasn't until I updated Busybox and ran TBU and Root Explorer that the "Android is upgrading..." message came back. Worse than before, it was doing the "Optomizing apps # through ##" part where before it was just the "upgrading" message. I uninstalled all of them one-by-one but whatever happened was perminant because it didn't go away so I did a full wipe and used the second ICS RUU .exe. On the second run I stayed stock. Again, I used Amon Ra to install Superuser and SU. I updated Superuser and then installed those same basic root apps. So far, no issues.
With these results, it's pretty evident that the problem is ROM related, but not necessarily a bug as much as a compatibility discrepancy. This issue has never been this persistent until the last few months and within that time, there has been several updates for TBU, Root Explorer and Busybox. I agree that switching to a different ROM may be the ultimate solution, but unless there is one that is a RezROM comparable, I'm not ready to write it off just yet. If there's a way to pin point which app is the cause, I might be able to find a workaround or persuade the developer to come up with a fix, I'd much rather try that first.
But again, I'm certainly interested in trying out any ROM suggestions you might have to offer in the meantime.
In the process of trying to nail down this problem, I've discovered that it appears to have something to do with the relationship between superuser and RezROM.
Since I first flashed RezROM, I haven't been able to update superuser or the binary in any way. In addition to downloading from the market, I've tried re-installing superuser with Amon Ra, flashing it from the sdcard in recovery and from adb. No matter how I do it, I either lose root or it shuts down superuser's ability to detect requests from new root apps. I tried to find a solution but had no success so I just decided to ignore it as long as it didn't effect functionality. I've had root app issues here and there but always chalked it up to a bug with that particular app and either found a fix or ditched the app altogether.
I've been able to isolate superuser as the cause of the "upgrading" message issue with several full wipes, RezROM and RUU re-flashes. In my last three attempts to narrow it down, I did completely sterile RUU and RezROM flashes and used Root Explorer and Root Checker as test apps. In each attempt, I lost root and the "upgrading" messages returned as soon as I updated superuser or the binary. I tried doing the same with the stock ROM and with one of the BAMF ROMs and these problems don't occur with either of them.
So, with the "Android is upgrading" message popping up repeatedly, having new stability problems with previously dependable apps and increasing system bugs, it's apparent that the consequences of having such a severely outdated superuser has finally caught up with me. It definitely looks like RezROM is the problem and unless there are some options that I might try to fix it myself, it's up to the developer. I've contacted them but I'm not optimistic that they'll be willing to put any time into coming up with a fix since the Rezound is so "dated".
I had this popup on every boot on my Evo 3D with the stock ICS Sense 3.6 ROM, I still have it on my Rezound with a custom ICS Sense 4.1 ROM. I just assumed it's standard behaviour from Android, why would you think it's an issue if it doesn't cause any problems?
Would like some help. I have flashed CM 11 and can't make calls. It says mobile network not available. Tried flashing AOKP rom as well and same thing. Mobile data works fine, although i have gotten a popup twice that says 'Google Play Services not supported by your device, please contact your manufacturer' (no noticible issues from this, google stuff i've tried so far works). I have included a screenshot so you can see my baseband and rom version, etc.
Now, i had a great deal of trouble getting a rom flashed to start with, CWM put me into a bootloop and TWRP wouldn't flash anything because it said it couldn't mount /storage when i tried. Used Philz advanced CWM (love it btw, will be using it from now on). Still wouldnt flash the hltespr specific CM11 version so had to use the unified hlte version (it gave me the status 7 asserts issue, but editing the asserts out just gave me a bad file error when flashing). I wiped data/cache/dalvik between each flashing. I don't know if any of that would have bearing on this problem, just including any details i can. Any advice?
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Would like some help. I have flashed CM 11 and can't make calls. It says mobile network not available. Tried flashing AOKP rom as well and same thing. Mobile data works fine, although i have gotten a popup twice that says 'Google Play Services not supported by your device, please contact your manufacturer' (no noticible issues from this, google stuff i've tried so far works). I have included a screenshot so you can see my baseband and rom version, etc.
Now, i had a great deal of trouble getting a rom flashed to start with, CWM put me into a bootloop and TWRP wouldn't flash anything because it said it couldn't mount /storage when i tried. Used Philz advanced CWM (love it btw, will be using it from now on). Still wouldnt flash the hltespr specific CM11 version so had to use the unified hlte version (it gave me the status 7 asserts issue, but editing the asserts out just gave me a bad file error when flashing). I wiped data/cache/dalvik between each flashing. I don't know if any of that would have bearing on this problem, just including any details i can. Any advice?
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Have you upgraded your bootloader to NH7? I know most of the newly-updated CM-based ROMs require you to be on NH7 before flashing. That's most-likely why you weren't able to flash the htlespr ROMs. The unified ROMs no longer include the correct APNs for Sprint, so that's why you don't get service on it. I don't know why mobile data works on it.
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Have you upgraded your bootloader to NH7? I know most of the newly-updated CM-based ROMs require you to be on NH7 before flashing. That's most-likely why you weren't able to flash the htlespr ROMs. The unified ROMs no longer include the correct APNs for Sprint, so that's why you don't get service on it. I don't know why mobile data works on it.
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No, didnt realize that i needed to do that. I'll do some research on it because i don't have any idea how to update the bootloader. If you have a link to a good tutorial that would be wonderful! Thanks!
Ok so i tried that, found this tutorial, followed it, no luck. Tried full wipe/reset after that to see if it would let me install the hltespr versions, still no dice. Same situation, mobile data works, calls don't. Will have to wait till daylight to try texting so i don't wake anyone up but i suspect that texting won't work either. Has anyone experienced this and fixed it? Lol i really didn't drop $100 on a phone to be saddled with all the Samsung and Sprint baloney that it comes with, don't wanna unroot....
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Anyone have ideas on this? Have continued to try fooling around with the udater-script file to resolve the status 7 problem so I can install the hltespr variant, still no dice. Please someone help!
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Sorry, I typically don't have access to XDA forums on the weekend, so couldn't answer your question till now.
You flashed only the baseband/modem, not the Bootloader. If you want to update the Bootloader, you need to use ODIN to flash the Complete OTA NH7 Update.
In order to update the Bootloader, you need to make sure that you use the PC ODIN (not the mobile one) and that you completely power off the phone before you enter download mode (don't access download mode by using the extended power menu when shutting down the phone). I don't think you need to do the battery pull that Freeza had in his instructions (I didn't do it when I ODIN-flashed the NH7 OTA update), but it wouldn't hurt to do it.
Thanks for that, I will try it as soon as I get home tonight! The next thing I had decided to try was to unroot, to back to stock, then try flashing that before I start with the custom recovery and ROM. Do you think I should do that first before doing the whole thing or could that work just flashing that with my phone as-is?
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Thanks for that, I will try it as soon as I get home tonight! The next thing I had decided to try was to unroot, to back to stock, then try flashing that before I start with the custom recovery and ROM. Do you think I should do that first before doing the whole thing or could that work just flashing that with my phone as-is?
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Well, I always recommend a full wipe (data, system, cache, dalvik) when flashing ROMs. I haven't wiped my internal storage or external storage since I got the phone, so that's not really necessary.
I don't think that unrooting your current ROM is necessary. Flashing the ODIN OTA update will automatically remove root access, so that's not an issue. Here's the steps I took when I updated to NH7 and installed my current ROM (see my sig):
Make a Nandroid backup.
I always do this just so I have a "record" of what I left behind. It also allows me to have all of my app data that I can restore via Titanium Backup (you have to buy the Pro version in order to restore specific apps from a Nandroid backup). I always store a copy on my ext. storage and on dropbox.
Do a full wipe
As I mentioned above, I always wipe data, system, and the caches when flashing ROMs. While I have to take some time to get the new ROM exactly as I like it, it minimizes any potential FCs and errors that some people get when dirty flashing.
Install NH7 all-in-one via ODIN
I installed the NH7 via ODIN. Please note that this is the fully stock, unrooted ROM and will also install the stock recovery.
Let the phone boot and connect to Sprint. Update Profile and PRL.
I do this periodically whenever I go back to stock (from AOSP). I rarely have connection issues, but updating the PRL an profile can help with those.
Install a custom recovery using ODIN.
My recovery of choice is TWRP, but others have found just as much success with CWM and Philz. Just make sure that you're installing the correct version of the recovery (4.4.X version, not the 4.2.X version). I always reboot to the main system after installing a recovery, but that's up to you. In the rest of this post, I'll say "TWRP," but I really mean "custom recovery."
[OPTIONAL] Make a Nandroid backup of the stock ROM
I always do this, but I recognize that it's not necessary, especially since we can just ODIN back to this image at any time. I just like having the option of having a stock backup on the device (in case catastrophe strikes while I'm away from a computer).
Use TWRP to flash your AOSP ROM of choice.
If you haven't installed any apps or messed around with the settings, you shouldn't have to wipe before flashing, but (in case you haven't noticed by now), I tend to err on the side of caution, specifically: wiping everything (data, system, and the caches) before I flash anything.
Set up the ROM how you like it and [OPTIONAL] make one last Nandroid Backup
Whenever I set up a new ROM to the exact way I like it (statusbar settings, accounts set up, apps installed and configured, etc), I make a nandroid backup of my device. This allows me to go back to that "fresh" image whenever something happens to the device and I don't have to muddle around fixing those minor tweaks. Again, I tend to err on the side of wiping the phone too often and taking too many backups, but I've rarely had issues with my phone and ROMs because of it (to the point where I can spend most of my XDA time helping others with their phones), so it might be prudent to follow the advice.
Anyways, that's how I upgraded to NH7 and installed a custom ROM. Others may take a less conservative approach and you're welcome to adjust any of the optional steps.
Hope this helps!
-Topher
OK, did all that successfully, when it went back to stock stiil had the same issue. Mobile data functions, mobile network for calls/SMS doesn't. Did the whole update prl/profile and even tried reactivating from settings, still nothing. Was able to install custom recovery (Philz) and the hltespr CM11 variant instead of the unified generic version. Still has the same problem, mobile network not available. Everything else works perfectly. I did verify in settings that it still wound up as the NH7 after everything I did. Note I did a full reset before each thing that got flashed in this process, and one more for good measure after. Let it boot to the system between steps too.
Lol I've been rooting and switching between ROMs for years and have never encountered anything like this. I'm stumped....
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OK, did all that successfully, when it went back to stock stiil had the same issue. Mobile data functions, mobile network for calls/SMS doesn't. Did the whole update prl/profile and even tried reactivating from settings, still nothing. Was able to install custom recovery (Philz) and the hltespr CM11 variant instead of the unified generic version. Still has the same problem, mobile network not available. Everything else works perfectly. I did verify in settings that it still wound up as the NH7 after everything I did. Note I did a full reset before each thing that got flashed in this process, and one more for good measure after. Let it boot to the system between steps too.
Lol I've been rooting and switching between ROMs for years and have never encountered anything like this. I'm stumped....
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Dumb question but are you a Verizon customer or Sprint?
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Sprint, I've had big red before but when they did away with unlimited data it wasn't worth paying their high rates.
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Anyone have any ideas on this? I am just confounded as to why this continues even after being reset to stock.
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I have the exact same issue and have been trying to resolve it for the last 2 days... Did you find a solution?
I have the same problem on a Samsung Mega. LTE and 3G data work but phone won't dial if LTE is active. It WILL voice dial if only 3G is active. Sprint. CM11.
I had this problem after flashing ROMs as well, but went into Settings>Connections>More Networks>Mobile Networks>Network Mode and selected LTE/CDMA....no network had been selected. That fixed me right up. Weird part is, I could still avcess the web without WiFi....but couldn't make calls or ise my bluetooth headset until I had performed the above steps. Hope that helps.
thanks forget the little things reset wifi and sprint cell extender
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I had this problem after flashing ROMs as well, but went into Settings>Connections>More Networks>Mobile Networks>Network Mode and selected LTE/CDMA....no network had been selected. That fixed me right up. Weird part is, I could still avcess the web without WiFi....but couldn't make calls or ise my bluetooth headset until I had performed the above steps. Hope that helps.
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I'm very new to the rooting community, and I'm well aware of all of the problems. I've messed around, and bricked my phone many times but always knew how to fix it by flashing the custom rom. I've did whole of April until I figured out the proper rooting my model's for 6.0.1 software, and the 7.1.1 software. I eventually got tired of repeating this process, so in May (after I properly rooted my device and everything worked perfectly) I backed up everything including my system in TWRP.
Now the problem is, after using the xui tuner from xposed installer a bit, my phone seemed working for a bit, and lockscreen worked, but it randomly kept restarting at the boot animation . I grew impatient and restarted my phone properly a couple times but it kept rebooting after I unlocked my phone or just waited at my lockscreen. I then started got scared that I damaged something in my system or software, so I went to use TWRP to restore my backup (which I also literally backed up on this Tuesday). It apparently was successful, until the bootlogo freezing and saying my kernal wasn't SEANDROID ENFORCING.
Then now, I kept reformatting my data and restarting but it wouldn't work, it kept failing. So I gave up, and flashed my stock rom. This worked, but I obviously lost all my data. So to possibly help someone, I want to list what I think could've been the problem. (Still new, so I may list alot of unlikely things. Also random order)
1. I didn't format my data before the first restore, thus it failing.
2. Improper backup, I either backed up unnecessary partions like radio, or TWRP just didn't backup properly.
3. My sd card, I had many problems with my sd card before doing this type of stuff, but it went away during may. During may however, I backed up my magisk modules to it too, but they didn't appear on TWRP. Meaning it may have stopped working again. It also deleted my root folder, where I held the magisk zip and uninstaller.
Now this could bring another problem, I was using Magisk and Xposed installer, while also having my stock framework, xposed framework, and sony framwork (this was to use remote play), and in result my phone couldn't handle it and the module from both Magisk and Xposed.
4. I backed up my system while using the ashyx encryption zip, meaning when TWRP restored encrypted files?
5? XUI Tuner, I modified too many things with the app and probably did something to to the root directory. (Most likely Unlikely)
6. I modified my build prop by adding more code like the android users function, and TWRP probably couldn't back that up so it restored wrong like in 2
7? I modified TWRP by using a custom theme in the recovery, making certain functions like backup and restore not work?
8. I was using an old version of TWRP, 3.0.2 instead of 3.2 because 3.2. However, this is because 3.2 didn't work with my phone, and neither did 3.1.
I now flashed the stock rom, and everything works again. I just have to re-root. I didn't lose much data really, and I backed up some stuff in samsung cloud anyway. I just wanted to make this thread so I can fix the problem properly in the future, in which someone else may need it too. This model of samsung phone really isn't popular in the community, so it really would be helpful to other people. The solution could also work for other J700 variants, especially J700T1 since it's the most similar.
P.S. This is also just a small thing to help people too. Rooting this model is actually pretty easy, there's just a catch for one version of it.
6.0.1 can easily be rooted, especially with autoroot. It's works well, and you don't have to lose anydata at ALL! However magisk is untested.
7.1.1 on the other hand does require to format it's data to work so you have to back up anything you want to keep.. Superuser for me made wifi and the flashlight inaccessible, so I had to use Magisk. Which worked fine. There are two different versions of this root though. (Tested Once) One is basically like how the stock rom and has the manual, mobile data quick setting, and battery settings. to get it, don't use ashyx encrptyion . The other is like how you got it your device and set it up normally, no manual or extra settings, and requires ashyx encryption for this. The one I used was the ashyx encrpytion, and I was fine using this method because I kinda already lost everything over and over so I didn't care (end of april).
Edit: Turns out the stock version happens when you flash the stock rom, then immediately flash a custom recovery, and formatting the data without launching the the phone. I think this happens because when you get your phone, and activate it with a carrier sim card it downloads the additional files for that carrier which allows and when you format the data it formats the carrier version instead of the default system on the phone.
I hope we can find a solution for the kernal problem, so other people can fix this properly.
I would also like to ask if someone can make a odin and TWRP flashable kernal file of both the 6.0.1 and 7.1.1 versions of the SM-J700 variants, but for now in this thread the J700T is fine, unless all variants have the same stock kernal. This could be a solution and very helpful.
I have a USA T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy J7 J700TUVU3BQK3 phone and Can someone give me links to where I need to download the firmware ROM for this phone & all the different software I would need to root this phone or modify-backup its operating system??? My computer operating system is windows and also does anyone know how to setup a multiple operating systems on a computer where u can choose to either boot to different versions of windows and lynux.?? Computer Lenovo Gaming Laptop & HP Pavilion Laptop.