is this device worth <200$? opinions on your device please, and also thoughts on before/after android porting!
i have the option of getting a 16 or a 32 for <200$ and am wondering if this is a piece of junk or worth getting.
or if i should just get something like a kindle fire.
uses: entertainment, ereading, videos, games, actually wtf do people use touchpads for????
ICS source is out so HE** the F*** YES it's worth it!
it was worth it b4, now I'm going to be busy.
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I use my touchpad for everything I need to do. The webos side has good apps for work and the cm7 side gives me netflix, games, video, photos, skype, ect... the TP is a very usefull tablet. If you get one for 200 and find you don't like it, PM me and we might be able to work something out, especially if you get the 32GB unit.
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I just put CM7 Alpha 2.1 on it this weekend and it is amazing how well an Alpha is running on this thing. If you can get a 32 gig for less than $200 you aren't that far off from the fire sale price.
I have a Nook Color with CM7 as well. I think both size devices have their merits so it depends what you want to use them for.
seems like everyone loves it with the new ports!
can someone comment on how the TP improved from the original OS to the android?
more interested in the before/after thing. im figuring that if you do not mod it at all, it is truly a POS.
I actually like WebOS.
I'm in WebOS most of the time.
that might change once ICS comes over.
webOS, you will use most of the time because it's nice to be in and it's the most useful. You can get to where you need to be quick. Skype call? No problem. Email? Coming right up. And while I'm reading a Wikipedia page and Facebooking at the same time, I can buy a scooter from Amazon. Not to mention reading a magazine and downloading podcasts and listening to music. I can do every single one of those things, all at one time.
That's the point of getting a tablet, right?
That's just it. webOS puts you at the center of all the action. It's a tablet in the way it's supposed to be.
That's something no other tablet can do. Anywhere. It's unmatched. And on top of allllll that, you still have the latest version of Android. Useless?! It's the furthest thing from.
oh didnt know you can have BOTH android and webOS. weird.
why do people have gripes about webOS then?
i already have a samsung galaxy phone, so i dont want the same thing but bigger (unless i can read better on it)
Exactly.
In order to be a good operating system, everything has to come together. You cannot miss one thing. WebOS has an app store, but you won't see many big name companies (the ones that matter) developing apps for it.
The problem with A & I tabletwise is that it doesn't work that different from your phone.
Which means the productivity, is not there.
I'm in Android watching a YouTube video, but as soon as I open another webpage, the video stops.
I'm in iOS and I get an email, or I want to look up how to beat this level of Angry Birds, if I enter the Internet, bye-bye Angry Birds, I have to start all over.
Those are big problems. WebOS saved us from that.
While you can do more in webOS, the ironic thing is, there's less apps, so you can't use that fantastic multitasking on everything you would like to.
So webOS used to be on thin ice, but better apps are coming in.
Still, this is a big problem for any tablet maker. We need a system where you can just push apps to make them compatible with any tablet device, or we are going to be stuck with iOS and Android as the only operating systems there are.
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seems like everyone loves it with the new ports!
can someone comment on how the TP improved from the original OS to the android?
more interested in the before/after thing. im figuring that if you do not mod it at all, it is truly a POS.
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If you don't mod the TouchPad, it's not truly a POS. with the original firmware, yes, it's the most laggy experience ever. But ever since the latest official firmware update, it becomes infinitely more usable.
If you apply the relevant preware patches and overclock on top of that, it becomes pretty darn snappy.
So WebOS is definitely still alive and kicking.
The latest CM Alpha is indeed impressive. But I still have trouble using it as my daily OS primarily due to the faster battery drain. But I'm sure that's just a temporary issue.
At the firesale price of $99 for a 16GB, it's a steal. I would say that it would even be worth it at $200.
But keep in mind that you're within range of getting one of these:
Kindle Fire is $199
Nook Tablet is $249
Personally, I want another one. Currently using my TP as my main computing device. Have CM installed, and barely using it, honestly.
Sent from my very "non-stock" TP.
Daughain said:
Personally, I want another one. Currently using my TP as my main computing device. Have CM installed, and barely using it, honestly.
Sent from my very "non-stock" TP.
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Same here, been my main computer for a week or two now. Except i exclusively use CM and haven't touched webos in a long time.
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Woth it? Well, if there will be a stable ICS port, and you understand what is a tablet and how you could use it, it's worth it, i guess. Personally, after i bought it i understood that there are quite few tasks that i could use a tablet for, so this thing just lies on my table, collecting dust.
Anyway, if you are going to buy TP NOW, better look in the Nook Tablet direction: for $250 you will have more compact tablet with better CPU/GPU and microsd slot.
I'm sitting at my laptop, but I'm using my TouchPad anyway because it's so fun to use.
I have to agree with Unrealwolf. If you have a purpose for a tablet, it is a good one for the price. It would be nice to have the SD Cord slot but the only reason I filled up my 16GB is because I put on 2GB of music and 20 full length MP4 movies.
At home I seldom use my laptop because I do all my email, social networking, and web browsing (ie. shopping, research, and forum updates) on a tablet (I have both a TP and a Nook Color). Very much worth it to me.
doh the deal got away
should i continue hunting or go for a fire/nook? not sure how well they compare but prices are close
Not too sure yet about the new nook tablet but the fire is getting some less than stellar reviews today. Seems to be a bit laggy. After using my touchpad for a while, I have a hard time going back to my nook color 7 inch screen. I am actually starting to develop apps in enyo for the touchpad. I really like webos as well as cm7. For me, the touchpad gives me the besr of both worlds.
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Im getting my touchpad on wednesday. 159 euros 32gb on Cyberport. Is it still worth it or shall i wait for kindle fire?
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Just curious how people feel who have played with them a few days.
If android never comes, are you happy with the device as is? Is the current crop of apps and the OS not sufficient and you bought it only with the hopes of android?
Do you like the existing OS and if android is never ported would you still be happy with your purchase?
I think for 99/149 I don't see many complainers but just curious what people think who've had the device a few days.
I have had it a few hours and I am very happy, the few thins i really want my tablet to do it is do wonderfully, even more happy than my Nook Color on CM7. honeycomb on the NC might be nicer, but until a HC port comes to touchpad i doubt i'll put android on it.
If no android then its ****. I don't like the webos. ANDROID is farrrrrrrrr better.
I agree that android is so much better.. one thing that would make this thing collect dust on my desk is the lack of apps.. I must admit that i did get it mainly for the potential of an android port. I am of no help porting android but if that doesn't happen relatively soon then I think it will be on eBay..
I have a question for those that may be more familiar with webos... when i am listening to music and plug my headphones in, it still plays the music on the speakers and my headphones, which as you know defeats one of the main purposes of headphones.. LOL is it a bug or intended?
I really like it, I think webos makes more sense on a tablet than android currently does, but that's imho. Its a shame they dumbled in the beginning of the os game, it could've been something special. Inductive charging is really cool, I misses that after I got rid of my pre and its cool to have it back. I'm surprised more devices don't have it. The tp isn't great for app happy people, but out of the hundreds of appa I've tried on ansroid I only use 3 or 4 of them regularly ans the tp's internet ia more than capable of replacing some of them.
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For what I paid and what limitations they inherently have, I couldn't justify paying more than $150 with any OS on it. I'd like to see some more games on the WebOS side but at $150 I'm happy with it and it wouldn't be worth any substantial money to have more.
Even if Android doesn't come, I am happy with my purchase. I really like the way a lot of things work in webOS. But I will replace the OS with android if it gets a polished build.
Even if you only use the touchpad as a digital picture frame, you can't get one with this size and quality of screen for $99.
For what I paid and what limitations they inherently have, I couldn't justify paying more than $150 with any OS on it.
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You wouldn't pay more than 150 even if it had android on it? Say it was an official android device and it was 200 bucks. You wouldn't think that was a deal?
Like it so far the audio is great.
Mine is sitting quietly in my office, waiting for someone to work some magic with Android. I've played around with webOS for a few hours but that got boring fast. This is my first tablet purchase and even at the firesale price I'm not impressed. I see little use for tablets beyond being a source of occasional entertainment for people with money to burn.
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i manage to get two 32gb,
i give one to my wife with the intent to keep it stock webos and the other for me to play and maybe flash android one day.
i love android ,but 115 british pounds for a capacitor screen with a browser that support flash,a decent email client,photos and video playing,music sound good(due to the thickness of the tablet i think the speakers take advantage of that),just a bit heavy.
what there is to don't like.??
definitely not a 400pounds worth,but definitely 115.
don't forget the nice 50gb free cloud space that comes with it.
thumb up for me.
So far, I love my decision to purchase it. I picked two up, one for me and one for the girlfriend. WebOS is very smooth and looks amazing but needs some more apps which could come with the huge influx of Touchpads. I will be looking forward to an android port just to mess around with it and decided which to keep.
I've currently applied a few speed patches and have it overclocked to 1.5GHz and it flies.
I feel like the screen clarity sucks. I have never used a tablet before, except a brief use of a ipad during a checkout, but the touchpad screen looks blurry to me. It remind me of the old school color screen nextel phones i95.
I've had it for almost a day now. Very happy after I finally got the patch installed, it's pretty ridiculous to have to click the thing 20 times to get the patch to finish.
When I bought it I had fully intended to flash android when it's ported, but now I think I'm going to stick with webos for quite a while. There's nothing that I really miss from the Nook Color so far, and webos has a far better browser and keyboard than android.
I bought one and ordered another (that I hope will someday arrive). After playing with this one for a few days... I wish I had bought a few more.
Yeah, app catalog is lacking, but as a previous poster said, $100-150 for a 9.7" capacitive, snappy internet slate is awesome. I'd love to permanently mount one in the kitchen for recipes and whatnot, and replace the "family calendar".
Can anyone comment on the readability of PDFs on the Touchpad? That is the primary reason I would be buying this to supplement my nook color.
The NC is perfect for everything except finance/accounting/technical PDFs , for which I'm hoping the 10" screen of Touchpad would be better?
lazarus2297 said:
I agree that android is so much better.. one thing that would make this thing collect dust on my desk is the lack of apps.. I must admit that i did get it mainly for the potential of an android port. I am of no help porting android but if that doesn't happen relatively soon then I think it will be on eBay..
I have a question for those that may be more familiar with webos... when i am listening to music and plug my headphones in, it still plays the music on the speakers and my headphones, which as you know defeats one of the main purposes of headphones.. LOL is it a bug or intended?
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Same thing happened to me when I plugged in my beats by Dre solo hds.. did the software update and problem was eliminated..
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Proud owner its still in the unopened box, haven't had time to open it and get into it enjoyably.Plan to keep it stock Web OS, I owned a palm pre and enjoyed it. I still believe Web OS is underrated and some users don't see the brilliance of it. I would have paid more if I had to. But the idea of flashing anything on it talks to the flashing geek in me haha. I would be more interested in flashing window 7 on it (not sure if it's a option) just saying.
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imjimmy said:
Can anyone comment on the readability of PDFs on the Touchpad? That is the primary reason I would be buying this to supplement my nook color.
The NC is perfect for everything except finance/accounting/technical PDFs , for which I'm hoping the 10" screen of Touchpad would be better?
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the built in app is decent at PDFs
I'm actually surprised by how much I like mine. I have a honeycomb tablet, also, and the hp is actually very enjoyable to use. It definitely lacks in expandability, since the app catalogue is def smaller, but I actually like it a lot.
That being said, definitely not worth the original price. 150$ (32gb) maybe.... we'll see in a few weeks.
after a string of cancelled orders, I decided to just suck it up and buy one from CL. I paid about 40$ over tax+shipping but it's worth not having to deal with shopping around while at work. I'm much more productive and I actually have my toy in my hands.
That being said I'm keeping my eyes open for a 16gb for my daughter to play with, hopefully HP SMB will have some more tomorrow.
Like the title says, how happy are you with your Touchpad?
I'm asking because I want a tablet and had made up my mind that I was going to get the Transformer Prime. However I'm now considering getting a Touchpad refurbished from ebay tomorrow. I know the prime has a quad core processor with a better gpu but I'm wondering if the Touchpad will do what I want.
I want a tablet for Internet browsing, play some games, read (I read a lot) and also possibly use at work.
I am a concierge at a resort so if I use it at work I will need to be able to take people's info (name, number, etc) so I can call a show/resteraunt and make reservations. I would also need to be able to show pictures of seating charts to show them where they will be sitting. I need to be able to switch between their info and the pictures quickly.
Does it sound like the Touchpad will do what I want or should I hold out for the prime?
Also does a capacitive stylus work with the Touchpad to take hand written notes?
If I get the Touchpad I will most likely be putting cm7/cm9 on it.
Novarider said:
Like the title says, how happy are you with your Touchpad?
I'm asking because I want a tablet and had made up my mind that I was going to get the Transformer Prime. However I'm now considering getting a Touchpad refurbished from ebay tomorrow. I know the prime has a quad core processor with a better gpu but I'm wondering if the Touchpad will do what I want.
I want a tablet for Internet browsing, play some games, read (I read a lot) and also possibly use at work.
I am a concierge at a resort so if I use it at work I will need to be able to take people's info (name, number, etc) so I can call a show/resteraunt and make reservations. I would also need to be able to show pictures of seating charts to show them where they will be sitting. I need to be able to switch between their info and the pictures quickly.
Does it sound like the Touchpad will do what I want or should I hold out for the prime?
Also does a capacitive stylus work with the Touchpad to take hand written notes?
If I get the Touchpad I will most likely be putting cm7/cm9 on it.
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For work purposes hp and android is not a good move. It's not native and will continue to be buggy. Hate to say it because I love my tp, but when it comes to work, I would use webos or another android device. Webos may be limited to what you want to accomplish too.
Do some heavy research on android/webOS/ipad reviews. They all do great things in their own right.
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the touchpad will do everything you need it to do (I can't speak for the stylus) if you put on cm7 I suggest getting the 32gig for sure as cm7 takes up roughly 2 gigs. But with webos becoming open source the touchpad will only get better. Personally I find the touchpad relaxing. Its is isn't so overdone so everything works the way it should, switching between apps is very pleasant, there isn't much customization but sometimes that's overrated anyway. I have a phone and computer to customize, I've found that I want my tablet to just work. And the touchpad works better than the iPad I feel. Android works great on it, so you will have that choice if you want. Honestly, for the price, you can't beat it, quad core is just ridiculously unneeded for what you said you'd use your tablet for. Also, I enjoy the virtual keyboard on the touchpad.
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I don't want an ipad they are to locked down for my taste(I had an iphone) Iproducts are to overrated Imo and are more like a fad. Plus if I'm going to spend $450+ I will just get the prime.
I'm thinking about getting the Touchpad and if it won't work the way I want it to I will just give it to my wife to play with and I will get the prime.
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the touchpad will do everything you need it to do (I can't speak for the stylus) if you put on cm7 I suggest getting the 32gig for sure as cm7 takes up roughly 2 gigs. But with webos becoming open source the touchpad will only get better. Personally I find the touchpad relaxing. Its is isn't so overdone so everything works the way it should, switching between apps is very pleasant, there isn't much customization but sometimes that's overrated anyway. I have a phone and computer to customize, I've found that I want my tablet to just work. And the touchpad works better than the iPad I feel. Android works great on it, so you will have that choice if you want. Honestly, for the price, you can't beat it, quad core is just ridiculously unneeded for what you said you'd use your tablet for. Also, I enjoy the virtual keyboard on the touchpad.
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Do you use cm7 or webos on your Touchpad?
Can cm7 overclock BOTH cores to 1.7ghz like webos can?
yes, you can overclock
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I agree with many of the comments.
As you are describing your use the TouchPad should work. I have not used a stylus myself, but I am fairly certain they will work with any capacitive screen, so they should work on the TouchPad. There is a whole thread on styluses in the accessory forum.
I also felt CM7 is buggy. I prefer webOS myself. The app switching, and multi-tasking is so much more intuitive in webOS. It's logical and elegant. Gingerbread does not multi-task in a easy to use way. I have not used Honeycomb, so I cannot speak to that. I think CM9 on the TouchPad will make this device a halo device. webOS just feels like it was designed with tablets in mind, ginderbread does not.
If you buy a TouchPad for $99, and the accessory pack for $79, you will have a stand to set it on (Touchstone charger), a keyboard, and a great case. Its like having a netbook that you never have to plug in or unplug.
If you get one on Sunday and don't like it, and your wife doesn't like it (both unlikely) your worst case scenario is that you sell it, double your money (at least), and use that to buy the prime.
I think if you buy it without any pre-conceived stereotypes, you will find your self pleasantly surprised and very happy with it. You really have nothing to lose if you buy it.
I love my Touchpad although I do miss the "cards" from WebOS. I know that during the first couple of days after I switched to Android I'd hit the home button and expect my app to go into a card instead of just going back to the home screen. I also ended up heavily modifying Android when I initially installed it on the Touchpad which slowed it down to the point where when I switched back to WebOS for something the increase in responsiveness and the fluidity of the OS really made me wonder whether I should stick with WebOS for the entirity of my ownership of the Touchpad ... but then the lack of the apps really started wearing on me and went back to Android with the knowledge of making slight modifications instead of trying to make it look exactly like ICS.
I say dual boot the touchpad-
For work, it sounds like webos is enough.
For home, android is fun
You can dual boot the touchpad? Hmmmmm. Sounds like I need the 32gb version!
As far as I know, right now webOS doesn't support handwriting input. Everything else should work for you. Hit Precentral, and add a few patches or mods, and you should be set.
Also, in a few months, there should be some major changes to webOS, once the source is given a repository.
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You can dual boot the touchpad? Hmmmmm. Sounds like I need the 32gb version!
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Right now dual boot is the only way, you cannot remove webOS. The 16 is plenty, after installing both I have like 13GB left.
I have no complaints with the touchpad at all. I still find myself recommending it to people as a tablet to buy for $ value (even used or on craigs/ebay etc).
looking forward to putting the Android on it within the next week once I find some free time.
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Right now dual boot is the only way, you cannot remove webOS. The 16 is plenty, after installing both I have like 13GB left.
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You can boot into either os you want? Like its an option?
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You can boot into either os you want? Like its an option?
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Yes. There is a boot menu upon powering on and you can select which one you want to boot from. If you don't select anything in 5 seconds, it automatically boots Android (Can be changed).
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You can boot into either os you want? Like its an option?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362983
Every reboot
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I changed mine to default to webOS instead on Android. I prefer webOS for most tasks, but every once in a while I will switch back. There is a reboot to webOS option in the power menu, but in my experience it just shuts it down.
I hope the ICS implementation is the same. Its nice knowing you have a backup OS, but with ICS I think I will make ICS my default.
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Yeah, you can't actually get away from webos on the touchpad, cm7 is still in alpha testing so destroying webos would be a mistake, the deva set jr up to dualboot and its actually a really simple process, I just followed a YouTube video.
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does android drop?
I had a Toshiba Folio 100 and after 1 or 2 hours of work Gingerbread used to get stuck i had to restart... same with honeycomb... but i guess that was a RAM thing...
what about touchpad? - do you need to restart it and if yes - how many times a day or on what hourly basis?
So the color has had hcfor a while and there is a functional ics rom out now. Would you trade your tablet for the color if you had the chance? To have a actual well partial bc or ice tablet.
Personally I probably wouldn't because I feel the tablet will only get better with time and the great devs we have working on it.
Why should somebody do that? NT is much better than a NC, it's been only 2 months since NT release. Custom roms doesn't appear magically they take time to be deloped and tested, Devs are close to achive a recovery boot and only then we can think in GB, HC and ICS.
NT doubles the NC in everything (exept price ) NT will be better so we only have to be patient and support developers.
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Not a chance. The NC has it's CyanogenMod and what not. But, the NT is just a better piece of technology. Of course, I hope that we break all the walls keeping us from modding the **** out of this thing; but, I could be perfectly happy with the root privileges that I have now.
I bought my NT to be a tablet, I read books, stuff for work (mostly pdf), watch movies, surf the web, send/receive email, and little else. I've always seen the tablet as a bridge between the smartphone and the laptop -- the NT does this with flying colors.
I'm a flash addict. Have been for about seven years now. I love pushing hardware and trying to make devices and software do things that they were never designed to do. But, I will (almost) never opt for a markedly worse piece of hardware for what I see as superfluous alterability.
I'll be watching dev threads and helping any way I can. But, much like the Detroit Lions fan in me, I'm pretty satisfied with how far things have come.
Yeah, no way. I gave away my old NC with CM7 to a family member and got the NT. I liked everything about the NC except the speed. It just felt slow and laggy on most things, even overclocked.
About ICS, I can wait. I have other tablets that will get it soon anyway.
I wouldn't trade it either. I'm doing pretty well with root and side loading apks. My galaxy nexus cdma is getting all of my attention right now anyways
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My interest in nooks began on the 27th of Dec with an NC my good friend had received for Christmas. We tried a few roms, but in the end we decided to take it back and he got a NT instead.
On the 1st we rooted the NT, learned a few more advanced techniques for side loading and such. He took it with him back to Cali, he loves it. His brother is asking me to do one for him and mail it.
Grand pa is buying a NT for "The Joe" treatment also. I thought about the KF, but I find the idea of non expandable storage more offensive than a locked bootloader. Maybe thats just me. NC isnt even on the menu.
Not me. I'm having too much fun with the Nook Tablet
I have to agree with everyone else and say, no, I wouldn't trade mine. It is a nice piece of hardware and as it is right now, it does anything I want it to do and then some.
The development will get there, I have no doubt about that. These guys/gals have done amazing things so far!
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Same here. my wife has a nook color already and she gave me NT for christmas. the NT is alot faster than the color especialy loading webpages and playing movies, plus it has the mike on which is ok i use speak to it assistant and it works just fine
I agree with everyone else. With the root from indirect and the ability to load other apps and change the launcher, I can be satisfied until we can load GB, HC or ICS. For me, the NT is an investment in better hardware that will serve me into the future as the software catches up.
I gather the holiday return policy doesn't end until 1/31, so anyone who would trade it certainly has the opportunity.
My NT works very, very well for play. It only works so-so for the work I have envisioned for it due to the lack of USB host. I'm stunned by how quickly the devs have figured out ways around and even through what was called an unbreakable security system (aren't they all called that ) at the very beginning. If there weren't so much hope on the horizon, I might well trade 'down' to get the extra productivity and settle for less entertainment power. But I'm glad it looks like I don't need to.
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So the color has had hcfor a while and there is a functional ics rom out now. Would you trade your tablet for the color if you had the chance? To have a actual well partial bc or ice tablet.
Personally I probably wouldn't because I feel the tablet will only get better with time and the great devs we have working on it.
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there is a HUGE difference between a decent port of ics and what you are referring to as a "functional ics rom" (the only one I can find is still an alpha build)
ics will never run on the NC the way it will (eventually) on the NT, the NC just doesn't have the hardware speed.
so no I wouldn't downgrade to the NC, that would be ludicrous!
the dev's are still in the initial breakthrough phase on the NT and granted don't have a fully polished ROM out for the general public yet, but it's coming!
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Not a chance. The NC has it's CyanogenMod and what not. But, the NT is just a better piece of technology. Of course, I hope that we break all the walls keeping us from modding the **** out of this thing; but, I could be perfectly happy with the root privileges that I have now.
I bought my NT to be a tablet, I read books, stuff for work (mostly pdf), watch movies, surf the web, send/receive email, and little else. I've always seen the tablet as a bridge between the smartphone and the laptop -- the NT does this with flying colors.
I'm a flash addict. Have been for about seven years now. I love pushing hardware and trying to make devices and software do things that they were never designed to do. But, I will (almost) never opt for a markedly worse piece of hardware for what I see as superfluous alterability.
I'll be watching dev threads and helping any way I can. But, much like the Detroit Lions fan in me, I'm pretty satisfied with how far things have come.
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I'm with you. For $50 more you get a better process, more ram, more memory, and a better overall device. Sure, right now it isnt as" moddable" as the NC, But I'm sure with time, it will be. Right now, have root access and being able tin install the android market and the amazon market have already made it basically an android tablet that can do anything its brethren can. I'm perfectly happy with it. when the bootloader is unlocked ans the 16gb of built in is accessible by non-BN content, I'll be happier, but I'm in no hurry. The 32 gig sd card is nowhere near being full.
Another no here. With a few minutes of work, I've got a tablet that's fully rooted and it's running faster and smoother than my color with CyanogenMod ever did.
A agree with everyone. My daughters tablet is alot faster than my color. Even the sound is better. I have volume + on hers and mine and the tablet for some reason sounds alot better than the color, even at the same settings. Almost makes me want to trade mine or sell it and get the tablet. Even with the way the tablet is rooted, there is no difference than my color running phiremod, So imagine what it will be like when the tablet can have custom roms!
Speaking of a trade in, my wife got my color from Walmart for me for Christmas......can I get it exchanged as mentioned above or is that only for barnes and nobel?
I wouldn't think of trading it in. Patience is a virtue, and spending $50 to get double the hardware specs I don't mind waiting for the rewards to come in.
I have been using the NT for about a month and a half, and honestly I think I should have gotten something better.
It does have its problems such as the wifi connection drops a lot and I have to restart the tablet. This is not the fault of the devs, but of B&N. I don't understand why we should have to hack and find workarounds just to get the full use of the NT.
Does anyone else feel that they should have gotten a different tablet? Perhaps an actual tablet?
I am considering selling the NT. I don't think I would have had the amount of issues with an actual tablet and one that is not so locked down.
Although I'm really satisfied with the capabilities of even just a regular root, the only time I've regretted buying an NT was when I heard Asus was coming out with a new 7 inch tablet later this year. That makes me want to sell this thing instantly, haha.
To be honest with you i bought my NT as a stop gap between selling my iPad2 and waiting for the iPad3.. with the intent to sell this once i picked up the new iPad..
and for the first week or two i did regret buying it but then.. Considering what i use it for
1.Watch movies (netflix, hulu, and divx on the SD card),
2 Browse the internet and 3. Actually read a book or two.. it's actually perfect for all that.
Used the SD card method to root (Thanks Albert) and then side loaded all the apps that i needed. Never had Wifi or reboot issues, the screen is actually brighter and clearer than the iPad 2 i had and the battery life is above average for a 7 inch
I will be holding on to this for a while.. and i think once they perfect the other rom's and get the bluetooth working it's actually a keeper.. especially if ICS gets ported.
But as always you have to ask yourself does it do what i need?.. the only reason to get a different tablet would be if you needed GPS, Camera's, bigger screen, 3G, a different app store, video out etc....
if none of that is the reason.. then whatever tablet you buy will fill you with the same... should i have really bought this feeling..
I am comparing the NT with the $199 refurbished 16Gb HTC Flyer. I find that I miss CM7 on the Flyer... and the Flyer somehow seems harder to hold. I guess I got used to both CM7 and the bezel on the Nook Color and now the Nook Tablet. I haven't decided which I will keep yet, but I am leaning towards keeping the NT.
Heck no ... I've had 250.00 dollars worth of hacking fun with mine I have a feeling there is a lot more coming. Just wish I knew how to code to help out
Basically it boils down to what you want to do with it. Technically, you bought an e-reader. If you wanted more, you should have bought more. Myself personally, I came to XDA before I made up my mind between various tablets. I settled on the NT because I could see there was a bright future for it. The hardware bugs will be worked out eventually. Blame B&N for the hold-ups thus far. Give it a while. If you sell now, in 6 months, you will regret buying something else and will be looking to get another NT.
Understandably, there are limitations to this device. It's half the price of an iPad. You don't get any of the fancy things like GPS, 3G/LTE, camera, etc. But it is a great tablet for the money.
I bought this because my cheap e-reader broke. It was mainly to read with. That said, since I bought it 2 months ago, I haven't read more than a page of a book!
I've had tons of fun putting Android on, customizing it, and getting it how I like it. I'll be 10 times happier when a fully functional port of ICS is released for it. Netflix and videos look amazing on its screen, indisputably better than the supposedly identical screen on the Kindle Fire (just read ANY review).
I've never had an issue with the WIFI dropping or restarting. There are a few issues that the great devs and contributors here have helped me to conquer.
There are still a couple things I'd like to see get done to this device though, other than the glorious port of ICS. I'd love to be able to use ALL of the 16 GB of data on board. That was one top reason I chose it over the Fire, but I'm confident the great people here will solve that in time. Another is that, despite there not being onboard GPS, I'd still like location-based tools to work, like they do on any other WIFI device like my phone.
Other than that, I'm really happy with what I bought. I may not use it for what I initially intended, but hey, who has time to read when you're busy installing your favourite apps, customizing widgets, and making your home page perfect?
And on the issue of buyer's regret, when it comes to tablets and smartphones, there will ALWAYS be something better within 3-6 months!
You can use your 16Gb, just repartition it, it is very easy.
My only regret so far is that I got the 8gb NT. It is actually my father-in-law's device, but I told him I would configure it to have better access to the Android market. I had read several posts about rooting and installing Go launcher (or equivalent) and was excited to do this. For the time being at least, it doesn't look like this is an option, and the 512k RAM looks to be an issue. I may try to convince him to return it and get the 16GB version. Since it's not mine, I guess I need to let him see if he is happy with it, but I'm chomping at the bit to put some of the great work from this forum to good use on his system!
Maybe I will have to just get my own. I have been talking about getting some kind of tablet with my wife, and will likely get something in the next couple months. Since I am used to a smartphone, it's hard not being able to install any app that I am familiar with, and I will likely go for something with more features.
As others have said, it's all about what you actually need/expect. And there will always be times when you second-guess what you do purchase... Buyer's remorse is just part of being human, IMO!
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I have been using the NT for about a month and a half, and honestly I think I should have gotten something better.
It does have its problems such as the wifi connection drops a lot and I have to restart the tablet. This is not the fault of the devs, but of B&N. I don't understand why we should have to hack and find workarounds just to get the full use of the NT.
Does anyone else feel that they should have gotten a different tablet? Perhaps an actual tablet?
I am considering selling the NT. I don't think I would have had the amount of issues with an actual tablet and one that is not so locked down.
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Well, I was able to get my Nook Tablet much more easily than a Kindle Fire because my University has a deal with Barnes & Noble; my school bookstore is basically a small B&N store full of textbooks. If I had the choice, I would have chosen the Kindle Fire, but I still like my Nook Tablet, especially now that CM7 is running on it.
I don't regret it, but let me say - I never liked my device hacks to be easy! Sounds masochistic, yes, but I've always enjoyed installing custom firmware on stuff that, until some hackers got a hold of it, was never able to run anything other than what the manufacturers intended. I'm talking about Wii, PSP, PDAs, etc.
If you think development for the Nook Tab is rough, think about how slow and brutal it was getting the PSP to run custom software. I suffered at least one electrocution modding the thing's battery because I didn't have much experience with moving pins on a chipset. It was worth it to get homebrew stuff running on there though.
My point is, while the Kindle Fire owners do have it a lot easier than us, I enjoy witnessing the development process first-hand; it's oddly satisfying. I understand some people around these forums are only here because they wanted a cheap CyanogenMod 7 Tablet and want to see the Nook Tablet become that - but I'll be lurking around here long after the Nook Tablet devs reach their goals because I'm fascinated by hacking and modifying devices.
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I just realized that after my post. Haven't checked the posts here lately. It seems a little complicated for a noob like me. Plus, don't I have to install CM7 also to do it?
No you don't need to run CM7 to repartition, I am noob as well, it is very easy, it just looks hard.
Just follow this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22157605&postcount=25
Partition 10 is where you would put you own data
Partition 11 is where all apps go, when you install them.
on mine i did half half because a lot of games are pretty big and need space, but you can change it to you own need.
just do the commands in bold black, the rest that you see is what your nook outputs.
Update after using the HTC Flyer for a bit more. I think I will sell my 2 Nook Tablets and keep the HTC Flyers. At $199 they just offer so much more.... GPS, front and back cameras, working bluetooth, working skype, dual speakers that are loud, HDMI out via MHL (adapter on the way). The built-in 16gb is partitioned so there is 8+ GB for media stuff. And for my almost 7 year old, he loves that Talking Tomcat and Talking Ben work, and Galaxy on Fire 2 runs fast on the Flyer as well since there is a native adreno version. It is only single core but runs at 1.5ghz and has 1gb ram so it feels as fast at the NT if not faster in some cases. The Adreno 205 gpu is not rated quite as good as the Powervr SGX540 but seems to be well supported for gaming. Not to say that there are not some annoyances with the Flyer. I can't seem to turn off the lock screen. There is no CM7 though there are custom roms for both Gingerbread and Honeycomb for the Flyer (need to root and unlock the device first). And I need to find better cases for them. Anyway I think the refurbished HTC Flyer is a keeper at $199 from buy.com And of course I can read on them with Moon+ Reader Pro, Kindle App, Nook App, etc.
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So far no regrets. Just installed cm7 and happy.
Plus I only paid $175 for my 16gb tablet on Craigslist.
Hopefully cm9 makes it's way to the tablet.
My only regrets are the possibility of what the Asus tablet might offer and that the NT can be had for $175 now. Those aren't really fair reasons though since there will always be price drops and always be new options if you wait. I wanted it for Christmas and it's been everything I expected. I'm rooted at 1.4.0, zero WiFi issues and it's never rebooted (I did have a frozen screen once). I plan on staying on this platform until the fine developers on this forum give me the option of ICS for my NT!
I have no regrets at all. It let me do everything I really cared about right out of the box for a price I didn't mind paying. Any additional functionality after ebooks, videos, music and some light web browsing is just so much gravy as far as I'm concerned.
I love it, but primarily because I bought into the B&N ecosystem years ago (I have about 400 books and magazine subscriptions). It's much more pleasant to read on the NT than it is on my iPad, due to weight and size. Movies are great, except for the below-average speaker. I don't surf the Internet on my NT; if I have to do it mobile, I prefer to leave that to my phone since I can do it one-handed. My only qualms:
1. There needs to be an Economist magazine app, built for the Nook. You can't install the one from Android Market, even after rooting.
2. The speaker, as mentioned above.
3. The little hook in the bottom corner is kinda annoying. Yes, I know it makes the design unique, but it gets in the way. It also makes accessing the MicroSD card a pain.
4. At $250, GPS would've been nice. Not that I expect to carry it around for turn-by-turn, but I'd like to access the map and Yelp for places to eat while in my hotel room.
I don't regret getting the NT16 at all. But then again my uses for the device are:
1. Reading. I read a LOT.
2. Playing games
3. Surfing the internet
4. Study device (read pdfs/powerpoints/word docs for school)
I also have music and movies stored on the device for the day when I need to entertain myself outside reading/games and off a wifi network. It's small and light enough to carry at all times in my purse or backpack and zippy enough to do what I need it to do.
Once CM9 is released I'll have to debate a lot on whether or not I want to keep my simple root with the BN eReader or upgrade to ICS for full tablet capabilities (like all those excellent note taking apps compatible with Honeycomb/ICS)
No regrets at all.
Initially when it appeared that B&N was going to hound us endlessly trying to disable root and return everyone's NT to 'jail', I was a bit resentful. I still don't recommend the NT to others because I don't trust them.
But I should have known the dimbulbs in B&N management are no match for the talented devs here. I've got no worries that my device can be ruined with an underhanded update- and I haven't done much of anything to secure it since I first rooted it back in December or so. (Still running rooted 1.4.0 with no problems). The fact that it can now run CM7 (which I haven't tried yet) is just icing on the cake. I'm guessing I'll love it even more once I get around to trying that.
The tablet does everything I need it to and more, and was a good deal for the price.
Next tablet I own probably won't be a locked device, but as for the NT itself, no regrets. That's 100% thanks to the devs here.
Hey guys, so I can land an excellent condition 16gb Touchpad for $160 today if I decide to. My question is, should I?
Just some quick background, my girlfriend has the original iPad which I have access to. I have a HTC Rezound phone that I have rooted. I would most definitely be buying this to root and just have a device that is bigger than my phone when I want to watch YouTube videos, surf the net while on the couch, play some games, etc.
I see that CM7 and CM9 is compatible with the Touchpad. I also see that CM9 renders the device not fully functional (mic, camera). I honestly would rarely use the mic or camera, so it's no biggie there. My question however is how the device other than those things functions with CM9? Is it a smooth experience? Does everything else pretty much work? Will CM9 get to a point where everything works great?
I just want to see if I should buy this or another budget tablet like the Fire or any upcoming ones.
Any advice would be great, thanks!
I recommend going for it if you want a tablet. I just got mine a week ago and I dont even pick up my phone anymore. Both webOS and CM9 on the Touchpad are super smooth. Yes, the mic and camera dont work but, like you, I dont need those. Android on the Touchpad is fairly new and with all the popularity its been getting lately, the CyanogenMod team has made it official on their site so the development for it wont be done anytime soon.
As far as webOS, I love that OS as well. Its just a shame there isnt as much development for it as of right now. But the OS is going open source so hopefully that will get some development going on it. Its really nice to dual boot both operating systems though and have a choice.
I dont think you would regret it though. I bought the 32GB version though since I knew I was going to install android on it. You might want to see if others say 16GB is enough for putting Android on it.
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I recommend going for it if you want a tablet. I just got mine a week ago and I dont even pick up my phone anymore. Both webOS and CM9 on the Touchpad are super smooth. Yes, the mic and camera dont work but, like you, I dont need those. Android on the Touchpad is fairly new and with all the popularity its been getting lately, the CyanogenMod team has made it official on their site so the development for it wont be done anytime soon.
As far as webOS, I love that OS as well. Its just a shame there isnt as much development for it as of right now. But the OS is going open source so hopefully that will get some development going on it. Its really nice to dual boot both operating systems though and have a choice.
I dont think you would regret it though. I bought the 32GB version though since I knew I was going to install android on it. You might want to see if others say 16GB is enough for putting Android on it.
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Thanks a lot for the response! Yeah, I think I am going to pull the trigger on it.
Hmm, I didn't really think about if Android would fit on the 16gb, but I would find it hard to believe if it didn't. But you're right, can anyone else chime in about that?
Thanks!
WizeGuyDezignz said:
Thanks a lot for the response! Yeah, I think I am going to pull the trigger on it.
Hmm, I didn't really think about if Android would fit on the 16gb, but I would find it hard to believe if it didn't. But you're right, can anyone else chime in about that?
Thanks!
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It will for sure fit. But that leaves less room for other stuff you put on it. I currently am down to 20 gigs left out of 32. But I have game roms and game data on there too.
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
Hey guys, so I can land an excellent condition 16gb Touchpad for $160 today if I decide to. My question is, should I?
Just some quick background, my girlfriend has the original iPad which I have access to. I have a HTC Rezound phone that I have rooted. I would most definitely be buying this to root and just have a device that is bigger than my phone when I want to watch YouTube videos, surf the net while on the couch, play some games, etc.
I see that CM7 and CM9 is compatible with the Touchpad. I also see that CM9 renders the device not fully functional (mic, camera). I honestly would rarely use the mic or camera, so it's no biggie there. My question however is how the device other than those things functions with CM9? Is it a smooth experience? Does everything else pretty much work? Will CM9 get to a point where everything works great?
I just want to see if I should buy this or another budget tablet like the Fire or any upcoming ones.
Any advice would be great, thanks!
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Go for it! You'll have a dual boot tablet. You'll find that webos is a great os. Battery life is great and you can always switch to android when needed. Even though android is Alpha now, it works great. You won't regret it.
I think 16 is plenty for my use. Like you I generally web browse, YouTube, etc. I really don't store any content on my device. I have all the apps I could want, on Android and webOS. Here is a screenshot of the storage menu - 820 MB of 1.46 GB left for apps, 7.79GB left of 10.75GB for storage. The device is partitioned when you install Android, so you do lose about 3 GB. But when do you even really get the amount advertised?
WizeGuyDezignz said:
Hey guys, so I can land an excellent condition 16gb Touchpad for $160 today if I decide to. My question is, should I?
Just some quick background, my girlfriend has the original iPad which I have access to. I have a HTC Rezound phone that I have rooted. I would most definitely be buying this to root and just have a device that is bigger than my phone when I want to watch YouTube videos, surf the net while on the couch, play some games, etc.
I see that CM7 and CM9 is compatible with the Touchpad. I also see that CM9 renders the device not fully functional (mic, camera). I honestly would rarely use the mic or camera, so it's no biggie there. My question however is how the device other than those things functions with CM9? Is it a smooth experience? Does everything else pretty much work? Will CM9 get to a point where everything works great?
I just want to see if I should buy this or another budget tablet like the Fire or any upcoming ones.
Any advice would be great, thanks!
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This just posted about an hour before your thread.
But edit...never mind.
Hey fellow rezounder. I had the touchpad since the firesale. Never used it really. I recently had a slow weekend so I threw cm9 on that beast. Now I use it every day. Webos is great but there just aren't any apps.
Cm9 is awesome. Everything you need is working. I even usesd titanium backup to restore all my apps from my rezound to the touchpad. I just bought the touchstone charging dock last night. I'm addicted to the touchpad again!
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I'm currently running CM9 on my 16 gb Touchpad and haven't run into a shortage. Even with quite a bit of media content (Several movies, a TV series) I still have room to spare.
For your lighter usage I think you will have no problems with the 16gb version.
Get it... You get a good dual core and 1 gb ram tablet for a very cheap price. I use it more often than my brand new laptop for games, surfing, youtube, schools pdfs etc. 16 gb is big enough for tons of apps and stuff.
Ji(n)X said:
I'm currently running CM9 on my 16 gb Touchpad and haven't run into a shortage. Even with quite a bit of media content (Several movies, a TV series) I still have room to spare.
For your lighter usage I think you will have no problems with the 16gb version.
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I concur. Heck, I torrent and then drop my stuff on my WII; right from my touchpad. Our computer (with 5 hard drives) barely gets turned on anymore.
it's a beat and does everything I want and more.
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I have a 16GB touchpad, and pairing it with a bluetooth keyboard its replaced my laptop as my go-to machine while out of the house. I take all my class notes and write drafts of papers using it, and its been very solid in terms of reliability. It does sometimes reboot by itself, but I've noticed it only happens after idling for a while and never while actually using it.
Storage isnt a big issue for me, after installing Android the SD card has about 10.5GB free which is plenty as long as you dont put a lot of music or video on it.
I'd say go for it. Its an absolutely amazing tablet for the price and with a dev community that's only going to grow as CM9 gets out of alpha.
Thanks so much for all of the responses guys! I ended up pulling the trigger on a 16gb one last night for $160 from a local Craigslist deal. It came in the original box with all of the original cables and paperwork. Everything is in brand new, mint condition! I was stoked.
The guy had no clue that you could even install Android on it. He said he was getting rid of it because it didn't have "all of the good iPad apps". LOL.
Anyways, his loss, my gain. I threw CM9 on it with ease last night and let me tell you, I am super happy with the purchase! This tablet is a steal for the price I paid.
Just a quick question, on webOS can you place shortcuts and such on the homescreen? I couldn't figure out how to do it.
Thanks!
WizeGuyDezignz said:
Thanks so much for all of the responses guys! I ended up pulling the trigger on a 16gb one last night for $160 from a local Craigslist deal. It came in the original box with all of the original cables and paperwork. Everything is in brand new, mint condition! I was stoked.
The guy had no clue that you could even install Android on it. He said he was getting rid of it because it didn't have "all of the good iPad apps". LOL.
Anyways, his loss, my gain. I threw CM9 on it with ease last night and let me tell you, I am super happy with the purchase! This tablet is a steal for the price I paid.
Just a quick question, on webOS can you place shortcuts and such on the homescreen? I couldn't figure out how to do it.
Thanks!
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You can drag icons from the drawer to the dock. That's it, there's no "desktop" in webOS.
I like a clean desktop and getting to my apps in webos is not a problem. I do have ICS installed and like the dual boot option but WebOs is so smooth that I really prefer it.
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I like a clean desktop and getting to my apps in webos is not a problem. I do have ICS installed and like the dual boot option but WebOs is so smooth that I really prefer it.
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Do a search for cornerstone. I can't believe its running so flawlessly on my device. You won't regret it.
HP Touch pad cm9 and cornerstone