From today, we can enjoy and experiment with new and long waited ICS sources.
I hope, we can do something for our loved device(s) and can profit from new features of ICS.
have fun!
I also read it this morning,
good luck guys!
Great news! Waiting for ICS on our phones
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I've read into the features of ICS..one feature is the new facial recognition lockscreen function, do you think we can use that in our phones, what features of ICS do you think we can have for our phones?
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Jrhodes85 said:
I've read into the features of ICS..one feature is the new facial recognition lockscreen function, do you think we can use that in our phones, what features of ICS do you think we can have for our phones?
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Does your phone have a front facing camera?
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Jrhodes85 said:
I've read into the features of ICS..one feature is the new facial recognition lockscreen function, do you think we can use that in our phones, what features of ICS do you think we can have for our phones?
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pretty much any feature except that
too bad we dont have a front facing camera
Yeah,this morning I had to stay at home because I feel sick. Then I had to download Froyo AOSP sources to compare some stuff and then I went on downloading sources page in sources.android or whatever. Then I found:
Code:
repo init -u https://android.googlesource.com/platform/manifest -b [B]android-4.0.1_r1[/B]
And I was like WTF? But then I read that motherf*cking post from JBQ which says we need a super-powerful computer to build Android 4.0. I have a Single-core 2,24 GHz with half gig of ram! Guess will take about 7 entire days,too bad the PC is not only mine. Will figure out something And I'm already downloading sources for you guys
If my phone, the same phone I'm sure you have has a front facing camera...than I must be one lucky SOB....so being American and umm having sarcasm, ehhh no it doesnt
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sweetnsour said:
pretty much any feature except that
too bad we dont have a front facing camera
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Well sweet there is that new technology that allows two phones to wirelessly transmit data, NVC or something with a N,which doesn't narrow choices..I'm not sure if this new technology per described in the Google nexus phone is standard software for newer phones or is a support feature added to ICS to all phones....I can't wait for all of it though, looks very interesting...I wonder what jellybean will bring to the table
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Wonder how long till the first bootable rom... hope someones gonna do it in a few hours
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ert69 said:
Wonder how long till the first bootable rom... hope someones gonna do it in a few hours
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Few hours are at least required only to download sources I'm at 20%,had to start again I will probably put Cm6 port in my to-do list,if I'll be able to build hopefully I'm getting a good laptop for christmas (that's what you get for always getting A! )
@front face camera for unlock the screen:
-> this feature is buggy as i've readed the last days^^
-> P500 have only a back camera, someone can test if it works to rotate the phone to
the back side and authenticate than
@compile time / hardware requirements:
As google wrote, you need a super computer - for me, its ****: i only have a small
notebook with 4GB of RAM and a dual core Pentium i5 ... so there is no way to compile
this big system
andy572 said:
@front face camera for unlock the screen:
-> this feature is buggy as i've readed the last days^^
-> P500 have only a back camera, someone can test if it works to rotate the phone to
the back side and authenticate than
@compile time / hardware requirements:
As google wrote, you need a super computer - for me, its ****: i only have a small
notebook with 4GB of RAM and a dual core Pentium i5 ... so there is no way to compile
this big system
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Also me andy i've a **** laptop( core duo t2350 1.87 ghz dual core 2 gb ram) but i don't think that we need a supercomputer....these are NASA computers guys honestly but i'll try to build in the next days i've an idea for how to config the thunderg device folder
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ciaox said:
Few hours are at least required only to download sources I'm at 20%,had to start again I will probably put Cm6 port in my to-do list,if I'll be able to build hopefully I'm getting a good laptop for christmas (that's what you get for always getting A! )
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Huge files?? Those with sick ibternet would feel terrible ..
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mmmm....i think i will ask to my uncle to build ICS sources, where he works he has a computer with 128 GB of ram and 12 xeon CPUs xD
matteof93 said:
mmmm....i think i will ask to my uncle to build ICS sources, where he works he has a computer with 128 GB of ram and 12 xeon CPUs xD
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Really? OMG that's a real computer!
Anyway I forgot to download Samsung devices from manifest.xml! But who cares,should only be a half hour of additional time required for downloading.
P.S: Galaxy Nexus' device name is maguro,but in manifest I've found a device named tuna! Lol
As I said,I'll figure out something I will build it even if it takes from 3 to 6 days,I'll convince my sister and my mum not to use our common PC for a week Really guys,I'm not kidding!
ciaox said:
Really? OMG that's a real computer!
Anyway I forgot to download Samsung devices from manifest.xml! But who cares,should only be a half hour of additional time required for downloading.
P.S: Galaxy Nexus' device name is maguro,but in manifest I've found a device named tuna! Lol
As I said,I'll figure out something I will build it even if it takes from 3 to 6 days,I'll convince my sister and my mum not to use our common PC for a week Really guys,I'm not kidding!
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yes, it is a real computer
If all the devs get united here then ICS will be no dream for our O1 for sure..
BTW missing Mik here..few words from him wud be great..
WTF had an error:
Code:
Downloading development: 76% (36MB/47MB) Exception in thread Thread-110:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/lib/python2.6/threading.py", line 532, in __bootstrap_inner
self.run()
File "/usr/lib/python2.6/threading.py", line 484, in run
self.__target(*self.__args, **self.__kwargs)
File "/home/ciaox/WORKING_DIRECTORY/.repo/repo/subcmds/sync.py", line 182, in _FetchHelper
success = project.Sync_NetworkHalf(quiet=opt.quiet)
File "/home/ciaox/WORKING_DIRECTORY/.repo/repo/project.py", line 926, in Sync_NetworkHalf
if alt_dir is None and self._ApplyCloneBundle(initial=is_new, quiet=quiet):
File "/home/ciaox/WORKING_DIRECTORY/.repo/repo/project.py", line 1444, in _ApplyCloneBundle
exist_dst = self._FetchBundle(bundle_url, bundle_tmp, bundle_dst, quiet)
File "/home/ciaox/WORKING_DIRECTORY/.repo/repo/project.py", line 1508, in _FetchBundle
raise DownloadError('%s: %s ' % (req.get_host(), str(e)))
DownloadError: android.googlesource.com: <urlopen error [Errno 8] _ssl.c:480: EOF occurred in violation of protocol>
It didn't stop tho,lucky me
have you updated the repo tool before downloading?
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Hi there guys,
I just read about Android 4.0,released today. As I promised from june,I wil try to port it to you guys (even because I'm not working at any project now).
The first alpha will be available in few days (if all goes well),maybe one week. I already got the SDK dump,so i could try to make it boot,but I prefer using sources. BTW,when CyanogenMod 9 will be released(CM8 is some crappy Honeycomb),I'll make CM9 port.
EDIT: I can't make the SDK boot. Libs are built from ARMv7,but we're ARMv6. So wait for sources to be released.
SOME INFOS:
ROM will be based on .32 kernel tree,then I'll switch to .35
Nothing in mind now.
Current status: Planning to download sources. I need to ask some help too,because I don't know for good this AOSP stuff. Will probably ask to lupohirp
ciaox said:
Hi there guys,
I just read about Android 4.0,released today. As I promised from june,I wil try to port it to you guys (even because I'm not working at any project now.
The first alpha will be available in few days (if all goes well),maybe one week. I already got the SDK dump,so i could try to make it boot,but I prefer using sources. BTW,when CyanogenMod 8 will be released,I'll make CM8 port.
SOME INFOS:
ROM will be based on .32 kernel tree,then I'll switch to .35
Nothing in mind now.
Current status: Planning to download sources. I need to ask some help too,because I don't know for good this AOSP stuff. Will probably ask to lupohirp
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all d very best mate!!!hope u succeed in the first try itself
if you need help ciaox i'm in! i'm installing ubuntu 11.10 right now!
lupohirp said:
if you need help ciaox i'm in! i'm installing ubuntu 11.10 right now!
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I LOVE OCTOBER THIS YEAR (Ubuntu,ICS,but Steve Jobs death. Kinda sad isn't it?)
ciaox said:
I LOVE OCTOBER THIS YEAR (Ubuntu,ICS,but Steve Jobs death. Kinda sad isn't it?)
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a little of topic
it's also sad denis ritchie death is not mentioned as much as job's death
Let the ics battle begin!!!
Ding ding ding! Correction! Its CyanogenMod 9 not 8... CM8 is a corrupted Honeycomb...
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well waiting for ur rom
hope you get it before sweattaiami does
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hope you get it before sweattaiami does
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I'm thinking of reporting it,but I don't know. He/She litterally took my project.
BTW,sources out in end of october,and first days of november. So now working on making closed source rom boot,because I can't wait to see how ICS looks on LG P500. Will post a video soon,currently doing other stuff not related to this.
ciaox said:
I'm thinking of reporting it,but I don't know. He/She litterally took my project.
BTW,sources out in end of october,and first days of november. So now working on making closed source rom boot,because I can't wait to see how ICS looks on LG P500. Will post a video soon,currently doing other stuff not related to this.
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It will looks horrible becuz is too small to our screens?!
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Ah well ciaox,
just ignore SWEATTAIMI, nothing usefull came from there, just crap threads and posts, just don't understand why some noobs call him/her their hero .
Reported several times, requested to remove those useless threads, but still no reaction.
Anyway, good luck on your project
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It will looks horrible becuz is too small to our screens?!
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No it wont!! It has been made up for all devices... not just hdpi... it has compatibility with our mdpi resolution... i checked the framework in the system dump to confirm... it has mdpi support...
BTW dax, you could create a themed rom of ICS?? you have the framework now... plus a few leaked appz...
Sorry for off topic..
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Rockr172 said:
No it wont!! It has been made up for all devices... not just hdpi... it has compatibility with our mdpi resolution... i checked the framework in the system dump to confirm... it has mdpi support...
BTW dax, you could create a themed rom of ICS?? you have the framework now... plus a few leaked appz...
Sorry for off topic..
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right!!!also he has something in framework/systemUI code that can fit UI in all screen (also qvga) so we will haven't bad icons or something like that
_Arjen_ said:
Ah well ciaox,
just ignore SWEATTAIMI, nothing usefull came from there, just crap threads and posts, just don't understand why some noobs call him/her their hero .
Reported several times, requested to remove those useless threads, but still no reaction.
Anyway, good luck on your project
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Took the words outta my mouth..
Rockr172 said:
No it wont!! It has been made up for all devices... not just hdpi... it has compatibility with our mdpi resolution... i checked the framework in the system dump to confirm... it has mdpi support...
BTW dax, you could create a themed rom of ICS?? you have the framework now... plus a few leaked appz...
Sorry for off topic..
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Im planning that for gbs rom update next week...
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_Arjen_ said:
Ah well ciaox,
just ignore SWEATTAIMI, nothing usefull came from there, just crap threads and posts, just don't understand why some noobs call him/her their hero .
Reported several times, requested to remove those useless threads, but still no reaction.
Anyway, good luck on your project
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Agree, agree and agree with all this
Good luck ciaox
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Great News!
a big project ciaox! any help or test that you will need to do, count me... i've the sdk system.img decompiled... if i can help you with something... please tell me...
DaxElectro said:
It will looks horrible becuz is too small to our screens?!
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What? ICS is for tablets as well as phones. I don't see any reason for it to look bad because of a small screen size.
I've been playing around with ICS in the emulator, and I've been wondering what the advantages will be for us over Gingerbread.
The UI overhaul seems nice enough, though ICS seems to be designed for devices with no hardware menu button. In the native apps included, there is a bar at the bottom which has buttons that were normally hidden and accessed by the menu button.
This basically means we'll be losing screen space in ICS, unless this bar can be hidden for devices that do have a dedicated menu button, though I couldn't find the option in the emulator.
The ram usage is more than double that of Gingerbread (45MB vs 98MB). Luckily our O1 phones will be able to manage this fine (mine is currently using 159MB, with 243MB free) but for other phones the upgrade is going to render them useless.
The big problem is going to be the sheer size of ICS. In the Gingerbread emulator the system.img is 89MB but for ICS it is 167MB. Which is of course the bare minimum for the emulator, 'real' Android with Gapps etc is bigger. CM7.1 takes up 154MB of the 190MB /system partition on my phone. To get ICS on our O1 we'll probably have to do some partition resizing, which means a smaller /data partition for our installed apps.
adfad666 said:
I've been playing around with ICS in the emulator, and I've been wondering what the advantages will be for us over Gingerbread.
The UI overhaul seems nice enough, though ICS seems to be designed for devices with no hardware menu button. In the native apps included, there is a bar at the bottom which has buttons that were normally hidden and accessed by the menu button.
This basically means we'll be losing screen space in ICS, unless this bar can be hidden for devices that do have a dedicated menu button, though I couldn't find the option in the emulator.
The ram usage is more than double that of Gingerbread (45MB vs 98MB). Luckily our O1 phones will be able to manage this fine (mine is currently using 159MB, with 243MB free) but for other phones the upgrade is going to render them useless.
The big problem is going to be the sheer size of ICS. In the Gingerbread emulator the system.img is 89MB but for ICS it is 167MB. Which is of course the bare minimum for the emulator, 'real' Android with Gapps etc is bigger. CM7.1 takes up 154MB of the 190MB /system partition on my phone. To get ICS on our O1 we'll probably have to do some partition resizing, which means a smaller /data partition for our installed apps.
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Oh well, we'll have to wait and see how CM team is gonna handle the buttons on the screen.
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Guys... the development of our phones is coming to an end... we have less and less developers everyday and I don't think I'm good enough to develop anything decent my self.... we need to find people to develop and fast if the future of our phones is to be a bright one....
I agree with you... but I think maybe is time to other people (including us), learn some more and keep doing a nice job. Not as great as some developers I guess, but someone has to do the work. I know, its hard, but what we can do if not is change our phones
Awesome devs, don't leave us hehe.
i agree too. i am learning c++ as i want to compile a ics kernel for our ics roms.
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Yeah, I'm currently attempting to build a rom. (it boots and works almost as well as hephappy's last build) I'm trying to hack omx in. It's very difficult :/ and I haven't had much luck so far.
allenwalker1998 said:
i agree too. i am learning c++ as i want to compile a ics kernel for our ics roms.
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Learning C++ doesn't help you to build kernel.... learn C
thachtunganh said:
Learning C++ doesn't help you to build kernel.... learn C
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i am learning both
Sent by a 14-year old kid learning kernel compiling
learning programming languages is only needed to understand syntax..rest..code is all of understanding..wat it does
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gymfreak7855 said:
Yeah, I'm currently attempting to build a rom. (it boots and works almost as well as hephappy's last build) I'm trying to hack omx in. It's very difficult :/ and I haven't had much luck so far.
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you cant hack omx..we dont have api's for msm7x227..we need to find a workaround
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williamcharles said:
you cant hack omx..
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I'm feeling like one more week waiting answer from Qualcomm and I will try to do that too >_<
allenwalker1998 said:
i am learning both
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Actually i don't learn anything right now... i just know some C....
This is just my two cents worth:
Take a look at the Android Development section. There are many budding developers with their themed roms oh, I mean heavily tweaked and modded roms out there. I'm not sure about the rest of you but I feel that this is simply wonderful. Its a good opportunity for beginners to learn more and serve the online community here. I'm sure in 5/10 years time down the road, some of us will look back and say "Hey the Optimus One was the Android phone that got me so interested into developing and look at much I've learned" or "It was my Optimus One phone that made me love Android".
So alright, our phone isn't considered a legacy device (yet, of course hopefully never) so hang on in there I love my O1!
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Well...I think the developers are enough to build an stable version of ics.For GB,we already have Oxygen which is amazing..or neko's rom if you like some changed graphics.If we'll have stable ICS...I don't think we can request something else from them.Even like this,I'm happy with Oxygen.
The thing is that o1 gets older and older,and resources are very limited.600 mhz...just saying.
The developers will upgrade to better phones.
This phone...I think it was it the top when it comes to developrs support.It was a cheap phone with good performances at that time.Now games,versions of android,apps,all request more resources and in time this phone won't be able to offer enough.
Probably this phone was a challenge for most of developers.We wouldn't have so many roms if this would have...a 1.4 ghz / dual core processor and this stuff.
Don't worry my friends,in time we'll upgrade our phones too.And for most of us,this phone was "first love" ...and you know what they say,you will never forget your "first love"
Joel Chan said:
This is just my two cents worth:
Take a look at the Android Development section. There are many budding developers with their themed roms oh, I mean heavily tweaked and modded roms out there. I'm not sure about the rest of you but I feel that this is simply wonderful. Its a good opportunity for beginners to learn more and serve the online community here. I'm sure in 5/10 years time down the road, some of us will look back and say "Hey the Optimus One was the Android phone that got me so interested into developing and look at much I've learned" or "It was my Optimus One phone that made me love Android".
So alright, our phone isn't considered a legacy device (yet, of course hopefully never) so hang on in there I love my O1!
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> very well said.. great words from you.. ur absolutely right.
o1
you realize that this phone is 2 years old and most developers have switched to nexus devices.
you realize this will never have an official update ever again
you realize this has an armv6 processor
you realize that we have reached a "glass ceiling" for now maybe quallcomm will be nice or someone comes up with a workaround or we can get a leak
you realize that this phone has no official flash support
you realize that we have an HVGA display
thats why so many devs are leaving and or moving to another phone IE. Nexus
so many devs went to the nexus, franco, milk, bok, dax\
im new here
lupohirp_jr said:
you realize that this phone is 2 years old and most developers have switched to nexus devices.
you realize this will never have an official update ever again
you realize this has an armv6 processor
you realize that we have reached a "glass ceiling" for now maybe quallcomm will be nice or someone comes up with a workaround or we can get a leak
you realize that this phone has no official flash support
you realize that we have an HVGA display
thats why so many devs are leaving and or moving to another phone IE. Nexus
so many devs went to the nexus, franco, milk, bok, dax\
im new here
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DafuQ?
Whats with your Username??
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RockR172 said:
DafuQ?
Whats with your Username??
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haha... lupo junior lol
Joel Chan said:
This is just my two cents worth:
Bla, bla, bla...
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That isn't development^^
I'd really like to change my Optimus One for a better phone but I really can't spend lot of money for a phone. Android 4 is beautiful but set a LOT of devices apart. Now Android looks like something for the few. I still have to understand what should I do with a dual/quad core phone: my Optimus One is old, armv6, 600mhz but I can still use it with Lightbox, Twitter, FB, G+, gstrings, Maps, Endomondo and a lot of apps with no much lags (and I didn't overlock). I hope Tizen or especially Boot 2 Gecko will be good enough to revive not-so-incredibly-old phones like ours. Android is fantastic but it's going too fast.
this phone is 2 years old
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Lolz, 2 years is such a lotta time My previous phone was 6 years old till I changed it. I bought my O1 last autumn. 6 months is really looong, so I think I gotta buy newer one
I switched to HTC one v but unfortunately there's nothing in development section like O1 has I luv my O1 I'll never forget my first Android phone which was our beloved O1.....
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I know it is very early.....but I was who seeing whether it was possible to port jellybean on HP touchpad via SDK....devs at Acer A500 have done it...
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vipaman said:
I know it is very early.....but I was who seeing whether it was possible to port jellybean on HP touchpad via SDK....devs at Acer A500 have done it...
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it is possible... theres somebody on the evo 3D doing it, same chipset so its not a far fetched idea.....whether we get a working version, who knows, we'll have to wait for the cm team like last time and they never do things without source, and if anybody wants to port it via SDK, good luck i guess cuz i dont think anybody tried SDK ports for ICS on the touchpad
ace9988 said:
it is possible... theres somebody on the evo 3D doing it, same chipset so its not a far fetched idea.....whether we get a working version, who knows, we'll have to wait for the cm team like last time and they never do things without source, and if anybody wants to port it via SDK, good luck i guess cuz i dont think anybody tried SDK ports for ICS on the touchpad
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And since Jelly Bean is just like a small step from ICS.... It shouldn't be that hard.... Only project butter stands in our way...
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vipaman said:
I know it is very early.....but I was who seeing whether it was possible to port jellybean on HP touchpad via SDK....devs at Acer A500 have done it...
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They use unmodified cm9 kernel
So we just need someone to compile the sdk
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sahhar1993 said:
They use unmodified cm9 kernel
So we just need someone to compile the sdk
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We could contact the cm team but I guess they would not build the sdk one....so we will need to contact other devs
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vipaman said:
And since Jelly Bean is just like a small step from ICS.... It shouldn't be that hard.... Only project butter stands in our way...
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don't be saying things down that road lol...you'll get alot of backlash like the e3d forums.....froyo to gingerbread wasn't a huge step but it took people a very long time. Lets just wait for source to be out next month it isnt a very long time. Then since the base framework is similar, it won't take that much longer then it should. I'm more interested in the PDK feature which gives basic source codes for the hardware side of things, exciting times
ace9988 said:
don't be saying things down that road lol...you'll get alot of backlash like the e3d forums.....froyo to gingerbread wasn't a huge step but it took people a very long time. Lets just wait for source to be out next month it isnt a very long time. Then since the base framework is similar, it won't take that much longer then it should. I'm more interested in the PDK feature which gives basic source codes for the hardware side of things, exciting times
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U don't understand small step...the base is the same...the framework has been tweaked and the system has been made more fluid due to project butter so.....it should not be took hard to port from the sdk
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vipaman said:
U don't understand small step...the base is the same...the framework has been tweaked and the system has been made more fluid due to project butter so.....it should not be took hard to port from the sdk
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Porting anything from the SDK has always been horrible, its not that easy and even if it were that isn't to say it'll be any good.
Remember those SDK ports of Honeycomb...horrendous. There's a reason nobody bothered with an SDK port of ICS for the Touchpad...there terrible.
I'm fine with just waiting until source code is ready. Unlike the switch from GB to ICS on a tablet which was huge, JB isn't really groundbreaking. It has some nice new features but after playing around in the SDK for a while I didn't really see anything that I couldn't wait a few months for.
vipaman said:
U don't understand small step...the base is the same...the framework has been tweaked and the system has been made more fluid due to project butter so.....it should not be took hard to port from the sdk
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I understand it perfectly......it is a small step yes, but in the grand scheme of things when you get an SDK port, when has it always worked perfectly?? If we're testing proof of concept here i can understand but you people want jelly bean to use straight away and to tinker with it. Devs I think have lives and if someone wanted to do it, they would've done it by now cuz its already being booted (albeit black screen) on the one x. Instead of the frustration of porting something using SDK they'd rather wait for source, because then people will start complaining that "this doesn't work, that doesn't work" so on and so forth
Anyone else think it's weird how they went back to the phone layout for the nexus 7? Will it be that way on larger tablets? I'm not a huge fan of how notifications work on my touchpad but the controls may be hard to reach if they go with a phone layout.
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I'd like to mess with SDK port. If a dev would do it. The port for one x has already been updated. They are really going at it...even if they know it wont ever fully work. Maybe they are just getting head start on development.
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its a waste of time. why would any dev spend their time on it,just to have to start over when the real source
comes out.
Why don't you ask the one x dev working on SDK port why he is deving it? Jb source will be out in 2 weeks.
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People do it because they want to. Why should that affect others?
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T-Keith said:
Anyone else think it's weird how they went back to the phone layout for the nexus 7? Will it be that way on larger tablets? I'm not a huge fan of how notifications work on my touchpad but the controls may be hard to reach if they go with a phone layout.
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while the current tablet ui layout is mostly functional, its not very pretty and a bit disjointed when coming from a phone version of android. it also doesnt allow manufacturers to put physical buttons on a tablet without them being redundant, and is called fragmented when compared to the ios on the iphone to ipad. it wouldnt surprise me if they went with this design as their new tablet layout. and it probably wouldnt be as bad as you think. with future cm9 or aokp customizations, youll probably be able to adjust the positions of the nav bar however you want.
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while the current tablet ui layout is mostly functional, its not very pretty and a bit disjointed when coming from a phone version of android. it also doesnt allow manufacturers to put physical buttons on a tablet without them being redundant, and is called fragmented when compared to the ios on the iphone to ipad. it wouldnt surprise me if they went with this design as their new tablet layout. and it probably wouldnt be as bad as you think. with future cm9 or aokp customizations, youll probably be able to adjust the positions of the nav bar however you want.
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I've long thought that the tablet UI for large tablets makes a lot of sense as if straddles the ground between desktop and phone quite nicely. Google aren't making the Nexus 7 UI default for these tablets either, if you emulate a touchpad withe the sdk then you get the UI we have now. On my small A100 the layout is pretty poor, and of course the resolution isn't all that great either but it's so crowded. The Nexus 7 UI works out nicely for smaller screens I think
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Yeah I tried a Galaxy tab 7 at the store yesterday and the ics tablet mode is a little tight. Maybe it wouldn't be a bad thing for a 7" tablet.
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Does that mean that all the work that has been done so far to get a working camera and microphone on ICS for the TP will go to waste with a new firmware?
kalala said:
Does that mean that all the work that has been done so far to get a working camera and microphone on ICS for the TP will go to waste with a new firmware?
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No, it shouldn't be a waste. ICS is 4.0.x, JB is 4.1.x and is a refined ICS. So all the progress should be able to migrate over.
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Anybody thought of android in iPhone.
We should start Developement for iphones also.
amartyarishi said:
Anybody thought of android in iPhone.
We should start Developement for iphones also.
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No, we can't develop for it cuz IPhone is designed for ios and if android is developed for iPhone then I think Apple would sue the developer ( not sure though ). We can't develop properly for it, we need proper packages, omx codecs ,proper libs. Finding or writing omx codecs is difficult job cuz there is difficulty in finding proper omx libs for android phones! How can we find for iPhone???
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I know its very difficult...but if we try...it will be possible...I have googled it any many say that its possible but a bit tough and risky...for we need jailbreaking iOS....which is easy...then need to put our brains and start the Developement.
Well, you'd need proper drivers; either you get them from Apple or you're building them yourself (which is a real pain).
You'd also need to somehow get the Android kernel in there, which is also a pain, since ... well, it just is...
It's tricky, but I've seen a pair of iPhone 4s with Android on, i just don't know where and when...
Though Android still RULZ
Well it will be.difficult....but i have seen people using android iphone...i know we cant make a perfect rom but still we can make a compatible rom
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Don’t forget, judging by all lawsuits (Apple vs the world) no body can develop anything similar to their products or use their products, whilst they continue to freely, so called, “innovate” what android been doing for years (i.e. “pull down notification” blatant copy).
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The first jailbreaker got job in apple inc.
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The first jailbreaker got job in apple inc.
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That's one in a million.
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Back in like ios 2 or earlier they used to have android in cydia....And,even then thr marker didnt work...
But as everyones saying...due to the fact that apple keeps everything clised source, sues everyone, and puts in a ton of security...it would be extremely hard and take months if not years...by the time we got it going for one there would be a new one...we hav no source to work with
The people that actually deveolp stock roms get paid and work in large teams and also have degrees in this sort of thing...its there job -and it still takes them about a year to release
Now look at us xda people...some of us,may have degrees in development. But many of us,are self taught. On top of that we all have a life outside of xda...jobs, family friends...so we really dont have that much time to work on stuff. Last...we are not paid...we do it cause we enjoy it...but i dont think anyone would enjoy building android for iphone simply cause you would pretty much have to creaye your own drivers and libs
So sorry to burst your bubble...but i dont see this ever hapoening. The end product isnt worth the work, not to mention the lawsuits apple is famous for...
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Anybody thought of android in iPhone.
We should start Developement for iphones also.
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The fine people of idroidproject.org have been working on this for quite a while now. Since the iPhone 3g came out. And they still don't have all the "drivers" necessary.
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amartyarishi said:
Well it will be.difficult....but i have seen people using android iphone...i know we cant make a perfect rom but still we can make a compatible rom
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Most probably you had seen the GooPhone which is a clone of iPhone and is heavily themed to look as iOS interface which runs android as the OS.
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Most probably you had seen the GooPhone which is a clone of iPhone and is heavily themed to look as iOS interface which runs android as the OS.
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No what i have seen was a iphone 4 with android 2.3.
It was just a basic phone coz many things didn't worked like accelerometer,gyro,gps,wlan..and except these everything was working well.
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i dont think it would make much sense. iphone has a processor about 800 mhz right? it wont create a performance thats near to any androidphone, it would probably lose against my x10 with 1ghz and 384 mb ram.... Maybe one could build donut or froyo for it andbthat would also run like it should after two years in development or so, but who would use it (you wouldnt by an iphone if android was on it, because any androidphone would give better performance for lower price, so you buy it because it works better than android and, oh yes, the apple...) I think it would be much cooler to port ios to work on androidphones, soon, when apple "invented" all features of android, it will still have the better performance, thet even hardest androidfans have to see.
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Here is a project that is working on exactly this:
www(dot)idroidproject(dot)org/
(I'm still a new user, obviously replace dot with .)
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i dont think it would make much sense. iphone has a processor about 800 mhz right? it wont create a performance thats near to any androidphone, it would probably lose against my x10 with 1ghz and 384 mb ram.... Maybe one could build donut or froyo for it andbthat would also run like it should after two years in development or so, but who would use it (you wouldnt by an iphone if android was on it, because any androidphone would give better performance for lower price, so you buy it because it works better than android and, oh yes, the apple...) I think it would be much cooler to port ios to work on androidphones, soon, when apple "invented" all features of android, it will still have the better performance, thet even hardest androidfans have to see.
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Yeah your idea is brilliant....porting iOS on android...it will be awesome but from we will get the system dump files of iOS????
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Clethan said:
Here is a project that is working on exactly this:
www(dot)idroidproject(dot)org/
(I'm still a new user, obviously replace dot with .)
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Dude you may not post external links on xda..okay
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amartyarishi said:
Yeah your idea is brilliant....porting iOS on android...it will be awesome but from we will get the system dump files of iOS????
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lol thats the problem
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amartyarishi said:
Yeah your idea is brilliant....porting iOS on android...it will be awesome but from we will get the system dump files of iOS????
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It's a lawsuit waiting to happen though...apple would shut it down the moment they heard of it...
iOS is closed source...that being said it requires permission to work with it. With out permission you are illegally working on it. It would not be allowed on xda due to lack of permission...
As for porting android to iPhone...as I said earlier I don't see that happening either...there's not enough demand and we have no drivers/proprietary files to work with
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Just to say someone would do it for sure, maybe he would give the project on and on but it ciuld.never be distributed in internet. I would say Someone could look in ios files and "invent" some things similar to port into android, but it wouldnt be supported or in any kind makin sense. btw im just lookin up a friend and buy his old iphone 3g to try that out
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Just to say someone would do it for sure, maybe he would give the project on and on but it ciuld.never be distributed in internet. I would say Someone could look in ios files and "invent" some things similar to port into android, but it wouldnt be supported or in any kind makin sense. btw im just lookin up a friend and buy his old iphone 3g to try that out
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Same here brotha..... I m buying an old one for that....
Thanks
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Dear Devs,
Android 4.4 is out and will support our devices too. Any one to work on to support our beloved Optimus One or All developers moved to a high end device already.
Thanks,
Kiran Kumar
Ya Google said that the low end android smartphones having at least 512mb of ram can run Kitkat smoothly. It will be new birth to our beloved Lg optimus one
Waiting for our developers reaction.
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Here's a portion of what cyanogenmod posted on facebook..
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3ncrypt3d_Droid said:
Here's a portion of what cyanogenmod posted on facebook..
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But... what about porting AOSP rom ?)
OMG, but one problem all developers are to lazy work with this legacy device! Sorry am bad English
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Guys
We got a new problem .
Google's new launcher doesn't work without google now
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nomancoolboy said:
Guys
We got a new problem .
Google's new launcher doesn't work without google now
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that's not a problem.
-_-
You are like "I want that new 4.4 thingy, i don't know the new features but who cares cos it's New! Yeee ^_^ make it work make it".
Don't get me wrong but,
GB or 2.3.x was the best Android OS for our p500, well i still believe it is.
Why?
Cos there wasn't any Fc's, no post like "oh nooo camera image sh1ty", no malfunction on hardware level nor software,
Some dev, cavemen i believe was his name, fixed our multitouch problem, i don't think this fix was implemented on ics or jb since i've never found any evidence for it, test with "multitouch app" see what i mean.
The ICS is still in development, 4.2 JB has reached his final build, 4.3 has started it's dev.
With ICS we got less free ram, less free storage space but we gained better UI, kinda, and most important better system compatibility. Battery was somewhat intact.
With JB 4.2 we got the 3.0 kernel, more functionality and great battery drain but huge with wifi on. Less ram again, less space, new bugs, and the end of p500 gaming era xD.
Custom Rom numbers have fallen a lot too.
My point was,
Isn't better to optimize / perfect the ICS and Jb for our p500 instead of demanding new builds?
New doesn't mean better trough
(i find Talho and Ginger DX best Roms, Talho as you know for gaming and Ginger as the best customized rom, so much functionality. But I'm running JB only cos gives me the BEST sound quality.)
Cheers.
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Is the new google experience launcher work? I mean does it at least work at the basic level?
please don't expect nexus 4 or nexus 5 functions shinny gimmick but if at least the basic feature of a launcher works then it is little improvement
to experience the feel of newer OS
as for the comment about perfecting 4.0 or 4.2
I am a bit in the middle with that .
because usually newer code is cleaner, thus more efficient, and who knows it maybe backward port friendly
and I think our development for 4.0 and 4.2 has reached is max because of the kernel limitation (correct me if I am wrong)
trying to port 4.4 would be an interesting hack In my opinion . a challange
and proof of concept I know software developer / programmer likes to proof their concept
they like challenge
try and get the google experience launcher here
http://phandroid.com/2013/10/31/download-and-install-the-new-google-experience-launcher/
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Guys
We got a new problem .
Google's new launcher doesn't work without google now
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Velvet will fix this
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Interesting. Since I have few months only testing roms, i think that every new android version has to wait, is like mw sais, is not a race to get it first, is to wait until a well done version being released. And (in my case) can't urge the developers to get new roms if we only wait for it and don't help with the build. If you want a 4.4 version now, start studying, learning and do it for yourself. Other people have different priorities.
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Interesting. Since I have few months only testing roms, i think that every new android version has to wait, is like mw sais, is not a race to get it first, is to wait until a well done version being released. And (in my case) can't urge the developers to get new roms if we only wait for it and don't help with the build. If you want a 4.4 version now, start studying, learning and do it for yourself. Other people have different priorities.
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But the source is not available for armv6 devices ...so we have to wait
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I think that cm will be habit late so why don't you drvs start with another ROM! Maybe simple aosp or a better one slimkat which is already out for nexus 4. I believe that slimkat will fit our phone perfectly as it is slim and needs less system storage.
Thx in advance! Devs are making a valuable effort! Hats off for them!
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another version of google launcher
this time it is XDA version
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2506488
Velvet FCs for me. Problem may well be an armv7 jni once again. Those FCs make the launcher really fun.
There is a launcher3.apk around which bypasses the Google Now business.
Will 4.4 run on our devices? Really?
Two problems:
Armv6! Pre-compiled closed source stuff for armv7. Just like before.
Room on /system for various new libraries. I am trying them on sdext with symlinks. This is Linux so this should work. This is Android so who knows?
Newer gapps and components are bigger than ever. Sort of contradicts all the buzz.
I was wrong ..
Most of the people are using it as a primary phones :thumbup::thumbup:
Thats good
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Left4DeadMW said:
My point was,
Isn't better to optimize / perfect the ICS and Jb for our p500 instead of demanding new builds?
New doesn't mean better trough
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But I think that this time it will mean better. Because this version has been made to run on lower end devices, devices with less RAM and processing power. If Dev's are trying to create the perfect 4.x.x ROM for the P500: this very well might be it.
I think we'll have to wait before judging 4.4 as a just a bloated resource hog on this device. It may very well be the complete opposite.
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But I think that this time it will mean better. Because this version has been made to run on lower end devices, devices with less RAM and processing power. If Dev's are trying to create the perfect 4.x.x ROM for the P500: this very well might be it.
I think we'll have to wait before judging 4.4 as a just a bloated resource hog on this device. It may very well be the complete opposite.
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Here's an interesting article : http://www.phonearena.com/news/Andr...rtably-on-512MB-RAM-devices-heres-how_id49099
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Here's an interesting article : http://www.phonearena.com/news/Andr...rtably-on-512MB-RAM-devices-heres-how_id49099
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Exactly. Project Svelte is what I was referring to. So we should see some better performance than with Jelly Bean.
Logan_M said:
But I think that this time it will mean better. Because this version has been made to run on lower end devices, devices with less RAM and processing power. If Dev's are trying to create the perfect 4.x.x ROM for the P500: this very well might be it.
I think we'll have to wait before judging 4.4 as a just a bloated resource hog on this device. It may very well be the complete opposite.
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Perhaps.
Never said something like useless.
And getting high expect = won't get disappointed at the end.
So kitkat4.4 would have better performance then JB?
I mean, CM team spend time porting/dev JB ROM to our, well I might as say old, p500 and couldn't perfect it, greatest issues still are camera/battery/more space same storage, as android versions progress more and more storage space is taken, as well as ram usage.
And now somehow, google will make 4.4 universal build with all features from previous versions?
Google hasn't made any ICS or JB p500 specific ROM then it would take so much time.
But, making universal builds for phones-alike would be better option but builds won't be phone specific optimized.
I doubt kitkat's realization. It's a nice though but imagine the number of phones that still run on ROMs under JB.
EDIT: (source: xda and wiki)
"video playback performance issues due to missing libraries for hardware assisted decoding since ICS"
Would this be fixed? I remember now, I could never watched those Naruto downloaded ep's, video playback was like 1frame-per-sec (online streaming still fine)