[Q] 3rd party headset support - Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro

I did a search but to no avail... please don't blame me if the topic already exists
I bought a Urbanears headphone which had a headset device (mic and button) included but Neo would not support the 3-channel 3.5 plug ('Accessory not support' message jumps out) and I had to plug a stereo adapter (2-channel 3.5 plug) to make the headphone work, but only for music.
I am wondering if the 'not support' issue is a hardware problem or a software problem? I thought it was unlikely for the former because the 3.5mm format should be just the same for all headset (Urbanears claims it is compatible with most device except those with restrictions, say, SE ), so I guess it was SE putting some software restriction on headsets other than its own brand. So if this assumption is true is there a way for a rooted device to overcome this restriction and use the mic and control on the headset (headphone) ?
Thanks a lot

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Sony Ericsson, Nokia, Samsung phones before Galaxy S all have the same 3.5mm jack configuration.
Apple, HTC, all Samsung phones that came after Galaxy S have another configuration.
So NO Apple, HTC etc compatible headsets will not work with a Sony Ericsson (and vice versa)
You could use an adapter, it will make both the audio and the mic and answer button work, but having an adapter doesn't look very good.
All these 3.5mm headsets have 4 poles instead of 3 as normal headphones without mic's, but the thing is that they are wired differently.
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Apple etc are wired like this:
1-Left Audio
2-Right Audio
3-Ground
4-Mic
SE, Nokia etc are wired like this:
1-Audio Left
2-Audio Right
3-Mic
4 -Ground
As you can see, number 3 and 4 need to change place in order to get the headset working fully with your phone. If you are good at soldering you could maybe modify it, otherwise I'd suggest you either get other headphones or use an ugly adapter. I have an adapter that changes the wiring of number 3 and 4, so they do exist.

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I just got Klipsch Image S4A headphones for Android
They do not work with SonyEricsson Xperia Neo.
I get "Accessory not supported" message.

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K4L said:
Sony Ericsson, Nokia, Samsung phones before Galaxy S all have the same 3.5mm jack configuration.
Apple, HTC, all Samsung phones that came after Galaxy S have another configuration.
So NO Apple, HTC etc compatible headsets will work with a Sony Ericsson (and vice versa)
You could use an adapter, it will make both the audio and the mic and answer button work, but having an adapter doesn't look very good.
All these 3.5mm headsets have 4 poles instead of 3 as normal headphones without mic's, but the thing is that they are wired differently.
Apple etc are wired like this:
1-Left Audio
2-Right Audio
3-Ground
4-Mic
SE, Nokia etc are wired like this:
1-Audio Left
2-Audio Right
3-Mic
4 -Ground
As you can see, number 3 and 4 need to change place in order to get the headset working fully with your phone. If you are good at soldering you could maybe modify it, otherwise I'd suggest you either get other headphones or use an ugly adapter. I have an adapter that changes the wiring of number 3 and 4, so they do exist.
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Its not always so simple to change to wire.
There is resistors and etc stuff that's sayng to phone some information...
Adapter is not best solution.
Sent via my FXP046 MT15i®

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Thanks K4L very much, I know where to get an adapter but I just hope there would be an easier way around:/ now I have to get an ugly adapter though I love my Urbanrars so much thank you again for the detailed explanation

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K4L said:
Sony Ericsson, Nokia, Samsung phones before Galaxy S all have the same 3.5mm jack configuration.
Apple, HTC, all Samsung phones that came after Galaxy S have another configuration.
So NO Apple, HTC etc compatible headsets will not work with a Sony Ericsson (and vice versa)
You could use an adapter, it will make both the audio and the mic and answer button work, but having an adapter doesn't look very good.
All these 3.5mm headsets have 4 poles instead of 3 as normal headphones without mic's, but the thing is that they are wired differently.
Apple etc are wired like this:
1-Left Audio
2-Right Audio
3-Ground
4-Mic
SE, Nokia etc are wired like this:
1-Audio Left
2-Audio Right
3-Mic
4 -Ground
As you can see, number 3 and 4 need to change place in order to get the headset working fully with your phone. If you are good at soldering you could maybe modify it, otherwise I'd suggest you either get other headphones or use an ugly adapter. I have an adapter that changes the wiring of number 3 and 4, so they do exist.
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it is possible to use any headphone, because at the board there is what they called switching transistor, but for more functionality use active headphones...
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Ardbeq said:
I just got Klipsch Image S4A headphones for Android
They do not work with SonyEricsson Xperia Neo.
I get "Accessory not supported" message.
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i will try it if there is a possible i will explain it how it will works....

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So, the iBeats from Beats by dre will work, as i understood.. It has Audio Left / Right only, no mic, no controls!..??

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wska said:
So, the iBeats from Beats by dre will work, as i understood.. It has Audio Left / Right only, no mic, no controls!..??
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Well... if they don't have a mic or controls, it should work perfectly yes. ANY 3.5mm earphones/headphones without a mic or controls will work.
Howeveeeeeeer... if they're called "iBeats" it sounds like it's a headset for iPhones. Make sure you buy the Beats without mic/controls.

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skullcandy ink'd mic'd doesn't work
How I wish I had come across this thread before buying the skullcandy Mic'd headset. It is not working on my neo and I get accessory not supported message. I have been looking all night and was not able to find a suitable adapter. Can anyone here provide a link or suggest where I can get one? so that I don't end up buying the wrong one

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K4L said:
Sony Ericsson, Nokia, Samsung phones before Galaxy S all have the same 3.5mm jack configuration.
Apple, HTC, all Samsung phones that came after Galaxy S have another configuration.
So NO Apple, HTC etc compatible headsets will not work with a Sony Ericsson (and vice versa)
You could use an adapter, it will make both the audio and the mic and answer button work, but having an adapter doesn't look very good.
All these 3.5mm headsets have 4 poles instead of 3 as normal headphones without mic's, but the thing is that they are wired differently.
Apple etc are wired like this:
1-Left Audio
2-Right Audio
3-Ground
4-Mic
SE, Nokia etc are wired like this:
1-Audio Left
2-Audio Right
3-Mic
4 -Ground
As you can see, number 3 and 4 need to change place in order to get the headset working fully with your phone. If you are good at soldering you could maybe modify it, otherwise I'd suggest you either get other headphones or use an ugly adapter. I have an adapter that changes the wiring of number 3 and 4, so they do exist.
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Thanks man that is such a useful info provided by you...

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K4L said:
Sony Ericsson, Nokia, Samsung phones before Galaxy S all have the same 3.5mm jack configuration.
Apple, HTC, all Samsung phones that came after Galaxy S have another configuration.
So NO Apple, HTC etc compatible headsets will not work with a Sony Ericsson (and vice versa)
You could use an adapter, it will make both the audio and the mic and answer button work, but having an adapter doesn't look very good.
All these 3.5mm headsets have 4 poles instead of 3 as normal headphones without mic's, but the thing is that they are wired differently.
Apple etc are wired like this:
1-Left Audio
2-Right Audio
3-Ground
4-Mic
SE, Nokia etc are wired like this:
1-Audio Left
2-Audio Right
3-Mic
4 -Ground
As you can see, number 3 and 4 need to change place in order to get the headset working fully with your phone. If you are good at soldering you could maybe modify it, otherwise I'd suggest you either get other headphones or use an ugly adapter. I have an adapter that changes the wiring of number 3 and 4, so they do exist.
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Sony changed from Sony Ericsson to just Sony (they also changed the headset to work just like htc and galaxy s line)
So urbeats , htc beats solo and sony smart headset should work on the 3 brands

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Hello all,
Thought i will just add on to this post. My friend has a SE Neo V on android 2.3.4 stock and had this same issue with a 3rd party earphones (believe it was Creative and TDK).
We tried downloading this app/widget toggleheadset2 from google play and it helped with playback of sound to the 3rd party earphones. Sound quality is acceptable.
However for the FM radio it is a bit harder as it needs to detect earphones plugged in before starting but not impossible to get working
1. Make sure toggleheadset2 widget is on
2. in the home screen , plug in your headset and immediately press and hold on the volume up/down button. the accessory not supported button will pop up on screen. click ok and then let go of the volume button.
3. FM Radio apps should work then, if it fails you will need to repeat the process again.
Well this is what we found out and got our neo v to work with a 3rd party headset. Hopefully this will help someone else.

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I tried urbeats ( not ibeats which is iPhone version )
On htc phones
Samsung galaxy tab and s 2
Nokia lumia
All three buttons work on them
Htc Nokia lumia samsung galaxy
And Sony headset (not Sony Ericsson) all have same type of 3.5 jack
A lot of manufacturers seem to have move to one standard 3.5 jack

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I've got a Tiger with mic earphones and it works with toggleheadset2 but the sound is no good until I press the mic button. Afaik, it's an opensource app.
Is there any way to set the app properly in order to get the earphones work correctly?

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I have the same problem with a set of Dr Dre Beats Solo HD's. I installed the toggleheadset2 app/widget and when the mic button is pressed (and kept pressed) the sound is perfect but you have to keep the button physically pressed down in order to have decent sound quality and that's not viable.
Any chance of a link to an appropriate adapter??
Cheers,
Ben

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BenEadir said:
I have the same problem with a set of Dr Dre Beats Solo HD's. I installed the toggleheadset2 app/widget and when the mic button is pressed (and kept pressed) the sound is perfect but you have to keep the button physically pressed down in order to have decent sound quality and that's not viable.
Any chance of a link to an appropriate adapter??
Cheers,
Ben
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While searching i also found this on ebay, but it's larger and more expensive: http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-5mm-TRRS-...499?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e6f3e9ddb
I've been waiting a couple of days for a reply from these guys(lunashops) to a question i asked them. Until they actually get back to me i thought it best to move the link further down. I'm about to order this one myself http://www.lunashops.co.uk/goods-1073.html . Got that link from a post on Headfi by ClieOS

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taaviu said:
Its not always so simple to change to wire.
There is resistors and etc stuff that's sayng to phone some information...
Adapter is not best solution.
Sent via my FXP046 MT15i®
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desire sv's headphone works great with xperia p.