Where would a nubbin start digging around for dev education? - HTC EVO 3D

Hey guys,
Just curious, what kind of research would a nubbin do to start looking at pitching in on Rom development? I've an interest and would like to support the community. Have some knowledge programming, not much, but pick it up quickly.
Best,
Clock

There are quite a few tutorials in the development thread.
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I have been looking as well. What I am really looking for is how to compile a ROM and Kernel from source. With ICS source out, that is what I really want to do.

Nubbin?
nubĀ·bin [nuhb-in]
noun
1.a small lump or stunted piece; stub.

For android application development, There is no better forum then anddev.org.
For ROM Dev, xda-developers and rootzwiki.
Google searching is your friend Don't be afraid to use it

myn said:
For android application development, There is no better forum then anddev.org.
For ROM Dev, xda-developers and rootzwiki.
Google searching is your friend Don't be afraid to use it
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More wise development words from the man himself thank you again Myn
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on the evo4g forum...lithid made a thread with a guide also

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Sense Based Froyo??

Hey all, This is a shot in the dark but I am going to ask anyway. Is there a rom out with froyo that is sense based??
No.
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Post questions in the Q & A section instead of starting a useless thread please, it would be appreciated by the mods and community.
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deslovedroid said:
Hey all, This is a shot in the dark but I am going to ask anyway. Is there a rom out with froyo that is sense based??
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lol cute
your looking for and eclair rom then with sense
deslovedroid said:
Hey all, This is a shot in the dark but I am going to ask anyway. Is there a rom out with froyo that is sense based??
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Not yet, I think most people are waiting for another HVGA phone to get Froyo (ie HTC Legend) in the hopes that one of the devs would port it. I guess for now it's just a waiting game, but also remember that the Eris section has Questions and Answers subforum so please feel free to use it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=737
ahjee said:
Post questions in the Q & A section
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Agreed I'll move it later
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Why is that people can be so corny on xda
Some people especially if they are new have a tendancy to over look where it says questions and answers and go straight in to eris android development which a froyo sense based rom could fall under android development??? He asked a simple question instead of coming off like a **** with a **** bag response "useless thread" why don't you try being a little polite and helpful being a senior member and guide the dude in the right direction nicely.... Yo dude not everybody is perfect and some people on 1st glance can over look something, lighten up a little bit!!!!! xda has a bad rep for people being so douschie, that was the perfect example!!!
I agree, I thought he was being a **** myself
DroidVicious said:
...and go straight in to eris android development which a froyo sense based rom could fall under android development???
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Developing a Sense-based Froyo ROM would go in the development forum. Asking if one exists ? Nope...
I apologize if I came off as a '****', I too am guilty of 'useless posts', though when I joined I don't recall there being a Q & A section at least
In the XDA app considering that's all I use. Either way, I'm sorry but there isn't really a need to be throwing names around and what not.
As far as helping, you didn't. You instead took your time to point out all of what I did and or didn't. At least I told him where to go regardless of how I did so.
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On that XDA app, in settings what is SFR Support?
The question is valid but since it is not development related and is a question it should belong in Q & A (which is why I moved it).

a better app than TapaTalk?

I know there are a lot of talented and knowledgeable people in this forum. Won't somebody please make a better app than TapaTalk? The search function in this app is awful. Search a subject and the every post where the subject is somewhere hidden, comes up. Why did I pay for an app that I have to resort to Google's search engine to do a better job than the app for it's supported forums?
Surely some talented dev, wants to make some serious money?? How often do they update this app anyway?? How many of you guys and gals, do this for free and are constantly working on improving and updating your work?
This app is prime for a take down! The best thing about this app is that makes the forum easier to read on mobile devices. Heck, small businesses get local developers to make a site that will work on smaller screens?
How many thousands of people use this app? I personally don't know anything about the technical side. I do have a good ear for business and I'm hearing ching, ching.
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I agree. I don't like the way handles photo attachments.
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Thread moved to Q&A due to it being a question. Would advise you to read forum rules and post in correct section.
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Thread moved to Q&A due to it being a question. Would advise you to read forum rules and post in correct section.
Failure to comply with forum rules will result in an infraction and/or ban depending on severity of rule break.
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You guys are so tough. I thought I was posting in the right section. I was not asking a question, expecting an answer. My intention was to get the attention of people who are experienced app developers. This was directed for someone who is scratching their head wondering, how can I make some serious money, Koush style!
I was sure, I wouldn't be the only one who felt the same about TapaTalk. That app practically has a monopoly of these forums. Having other people either support or disagree, might give developers an idea, if it's worth their time. I thought the Q & A, was for helping out or asking questions.
I was doing neither. I was stating a need in a question format to engage a developer to think of the possibilities. Quite frankly, I think the your threat of banning is harsh. (Sigh!) You might ban me yet!
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justifi said:
You guys are so tough. I thought I was posting in the right section. I was not asking a question, expecting an answer. My intention was to get the attention of people who are experienced app developers. This was directed for someone who is scratching their head wondering, how can I make some serious money, Koush style!
I was sure, I wouldn't be the only one who felt the same about TapaTalk. That app practically has a monopoly of these forums. Having other people either support or disagree, might give developers an idea, if it's worth their time. I thought the Q & A, was for helping out or asking questions.
I was doing neither. I was stating a need in a question format to engage a developer to think of the possibilities. Quite frankly, I think the your threat of banning is harsh. (Sigh!) You might ban me yet!
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OMG, the first rule is search before posting. That's the whole point of trying to get a developer to create a forum tool with a more effective search function! That's it you got me! I'll ban myself from posting here. You all are just too important!
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justifi said:
You guys are so tough. I thought I was posting in the right section. I was not asking a question, expecting an answer. My intention was to get the attention of people who are experienced app developers. This was directed for someone who is scratching their head wondering, how can I make some serious money, Koush style!
I was sure, I wouldn't be the only one who felt the same about TapaTalk. That app practically has a monopoly of these forums. Having other people either support or disagree, might give developers an idea, if it's worth their time. I thought the Q & A, was for helping out or asking questions.
I was doing neither. I was stating a need in a question format to engage a developer to think of the possibilities. Quite frankly, I think the your threat of banning is harsh. (Sigh!) You might ban me yet!
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You are in the wrong place. Developers here are not here to make money. They are here because they love what they do. Second tapatalk is not a bad app. I use forum runner myself. An app doest need to keep being updated. If it works then why update it?
Yes we are tough. This is the worlds leading DEVELOPMENT forum. Not the user forum alot of people think it is.
Awww...Justifi, you are only allowed to break the rules if you are regular or a mod. You should read the fine print on the back of the 3rd page on the rules. Everyone knows that developers that do all they can to break code and contact rules abide by the rules they make with a 2 strike your out mentality.
It's ok...next time you waiver they will fluff themselves up and give you an infraction, he might even explain why in a non robotic voice.
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zelendel said:
You are in the wrong place. Developers here are not here to make money. They are here because they love what they do. Second tapatalk is not a bad app. I use forum runner myself. An app doest need to keep being updated. If it works then why update it?
Yes we are tough. This is the worlds leading DEVELOPMENT forum. Not the user forum alot of people think it is.
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And...not so much any more.
back on topic..
he is right..
Tapatalk search function sucks..
we give newies a hard time for posting the same question time and time again
in a rom yet..tapatalk is one of the prime tools used to access these same forums..
the XDA app has been crap for ages.. so I havent looked back at it.. maybe I need to..
But Search and Tapatalk before you post a question.. null and void..
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I agree D...and if there are other threads with the same topic the mods should close it and not flame it.
zelendel said:
You are in the wrong place. Developers here are not here to make money.
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I prob get a kick for this..
But how wrong is this quote..
There numerous developers of apps spamming across threads to
get their apps used so people will pay for them..
Try going in and bagging them for it and see how quick they flame you..
True most of the rom developers, themers do it for love..
But jezz to step up to the mark with this one has go it to take the cake..
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dgcruzing said:
I prob get a kick for this..
But how wrong is this quote..
There numerous developers of apps spamming across threads to
get their apps used so people will pay for them..
Try going in and bagging them for it and see how quick they flame you..
True most of the rom developers, themers do it for love..
But jezz to step up to the mark with this one has go it to take the cake..
sent from yet another MikG HTC Evo
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Ever notice the apps here are for free.
We have stated over and over again. If you are here to make.money then you are in the wrong place.
zelendel said:
Ever notice the apps here are for free.
We have stated over and over again. If you are here to make.money then you are in the wrong place.
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Zelendel, you have been around for a while..so we both know there are a lot of great minds at work on here ..
not driven by any dallor value..Not debateable..
But the facts of this thread is to open debate that maybe' just maybe...
the main mobile forum readers used at present are not as good as they are cracked to be.
tapatalk and even the xda website search functions are not well designed..
They both lead to complancy by posters both mobile and online..
And there is room for improvement..
If this comes from a $$$ driven developer then so be it.. if he had restated it as a bounty..(monetary incentive) I am sure you wouldn't take offence to this
Back to topic, As an example of a good search function on a forum site is on
Hotcopper.com.au,
its a stock site but the accuracy and narrow searches allowed make it a breeze to find current and past posts on topic, stocks, or posters
This should be compared to what is available on xda to see if there could be improvements made..
Also xda could ask the tapatalk developers ever so nicely to look into beefing up their search function..
As you have suggested one to use, I should have a look at it..
I like the mikmik forum reader but as its just linked into theirs at the moment I don't know if they bigger plans for it..
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justifi said:
I was doing neither. I was stating a need in a question format to engage a developer to think of the possibilities.
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It could have been a nice discussion, Justifi.
zelendel said:
Yes we are tough. This is the worlds leading DEVELOPMENT forum. Not the user forum alot of people think it is.
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And yet....without users...where would you be?!
Buddyfunlove said:
Awww...Justifi, you are only allowed to break the rules if you are regular or a mod. You should read the fine print on the back of the 3rd page on the rules.
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Thanks Buddy for your they-probably-won't -admit-it-but-its-true comment. This is why I don't post here.
da2zoe said:
It could have been a nice discussion, Justifi.
And yet....without users...where would you be?!
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The same place we were when it was mostly developers on this site. Remember that XDA has been around long before most users even knew what a smartphone was.
As for the bounty. XDA doesnt like bounty threads.
Check my Sig "noobs best friend" for a search plug in for FF or IE browsers.
As for my comment about being here for the money. This is one of the biggest problems as of late. XDA was made to share info and to help others to learn to do things on their own. As of late too many people are trying to make money using XDA. This is not what we are here for nor is it allowed.
There are plenty of how tos floating around and if the current Forum apps dont do what you want then by all means dig in and learn and make one up. Not only will it be a great learning tool. But you may find that it is fun and become a famous developer. This is what we are here for.
zelendel said:
The same place we were when it was mostly developers on this site. Remember that XDA has been around long before most users even knew what a smartphone was.
As for the bounty. XDA doesnt like bounty threads.
Check my Sig "noobs best friend" for a search plug in for FF or IE browsers.
As for my comment about being here for the money. This is one of the biggest problems as of late. XDA was made to share info and to help others to learn to do things on their own. As of late too many people are trying to make money using XDA. This is not what we are here for nor is it allowed.
There are plenty of how tos floating around and if the current Forum apps dont do what you want then by all means dig in and learn and make one up. Not only will it be a great learning tool. But you may find that it is fun and become a famous developer. This is what we are here for.
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I don't think there is anything wrong with making money from what you love to do. Most people strive for that. I wasn't suggesting that someone open up shop in XDA. We all have to learn from somewhere.
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zelendel said:
There are plenty of how tos floating around and if the current Forum apps dont do what you want then by all means dig in and learn and make one up. Not only will it be a great learning tool. But you may find that it is fun and become a famous developer. This is what we are here for.
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I gotta admit z, if I only read up to your first post, I would have had a whole different take on your comments then from this last post.
I have been trying make my own themes, mods and even write some apps. As a n00b to those areas, it is hard to find information at times, and this site *does* help with that. However, I would consider myself not a developer - far from it, but rather just a user. So this site *is* for users too, as they use what others have posted to possibly become devs/themers themselves someday. This site can really be a sort of school for those interested.
So I'm glad you clarified the earlier remark.
fish1552 said:
I gotta admit z, if I only read up to your first post, I would have had a whole different take on your comments then from this last post.
I have been trying make my own themes, mods and even write some apps. As a n00b to those areas, it is hard to find information at times, and this site *does* help with that. However, I would consider myself not a developer - far from it, but rather just a user. So this site *is* for users too, as they use what others have posted to possibly become devs/themers themselves someday. This site can really be a sort of school for those interested.
So I'm glad you clarified the earlier remark.
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Yeah I can seem to come across a bit harsh at times. I dont mean to be. IT is just soo many people come to XDA wanting to be spoon fed and that is not what we are here for. We are here to help people learn and to become developers themselfs. That is what a developers site is. A great place to learn.
So again sorry if I seem a bit harsh at times.
zelendel said:
Yeah I can seem to come across a bit harsh at times. I dont mean to be. IT is just soo many people come to XDA wanting to be spoon fed and that is not what we are here for. We are here to help people learn and to become developers themselfs. That is what a developers site is. A great place to learn.
So again sorry if I seem a bit harsh at times.
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For those that go deeper and deeper into things...XDA is great..
This age of computing so far has allowed a break away from the locked in
Software systems that we were forced into since really MS took over DOS with windows front ends
I won't even go into apple o/s speak..
Openware/shareware as the apps market now could be termed allows for us the end users direct input
With the developers to push for better products..thus XDA is the medium that brings the two together..
Like it or not at the moment its the worlds premier focal point for this..
So I understand how the purists must be shaking their heads..
Sad but true a lot of talented developers are going back underground, to less known parts of the web to cook
So then it leaves XDA holding the front so to speak..
Its all good and a big thanks to the mods for keeping it semi under control..
Its a jungle out there...
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Fish, "Z", and "Dg",
I agree with all of your most recent post. Now that, I've cooled off a bit :thumbup:. It's also known that techies as whole are not famous for great people skills. This forum is and should be a great place to learn. For the sake of encouraging more people to try to become developers or better developers, XDA could practice a "firm" tolerance. The default attitude should be to guide people to where they need to be, without flaming or threats of banishment right out the gate. IMO, it doesn't feel like that. To make mistakes is part of the learning process.
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justifi said:
Fish, "Z", and "Dg",
It's also known that techies as whole are not famous for great people skills. This forum is and should be a great place to learn. For the sake of encouraging more people to try to become developers or better developers, XDA could practice a "firm" tolerance. The default attitude should be to guide people to where they need to be, without flaming or threats of banishment right out the gate. IMO, it doesn't feel like that. To make mistakes is part of the learning process.
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+1 Justifi

Should there be a Noob Q&A?

Being a bit of a newb myself. I wondered if anyone agrees that there should be at separate Q&A for noob (novice) questions only.
Therefore more experienced users can filter out stupid questions that even I think is ridiculous. Leaving the Q&A for real problems, rather than simple and stupid questions like "how do I flash a new modem" etc. I propose this idea in all platforms and models.
I felt as a true noob, some time ago that people are very quick to snap at noobs. Leaving them feeling like quitting and giving up. As a community member I feel this is an issue. Having a Q&A for noobs I hope would not leave noob questions unanswered.. just only given advice from willing and helpful members. Leaving experienced or dare I say selfish user the freedom they desire, and the noobs that extra bit of support.
After all, this is a community and we are "supposed" to be helpful. And we all started without any knowledge atall. I am eager to hear your responses.. both noobs and pro devs.
What are your thoughts on this?
Thank me if you agree or better still, post your thoughts. Thanks for your patience in reading my rant
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Or an FAQ thread?
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I don't think it's in the intrests of XDA to segregate people, and brand them as "noobs" just because they are new. I've seen alot of new users learn very quickly and become very respected developers
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AndroHero said:
I don't think it's in the intrests of XDA to segregate people, and brand them as "noobs" just because they are new. I've seen alot of new users learn very quickly and become very respected developers
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To be honest most ppl brand themselves as noobs. I feel I am learning very quickly, currently learning java. Some people just don't have the patience. Can't be bothered to search. As I have learnt in my experiences that you have to be very patient and start all over again often. As for people who don't search.. that's just pure laziness. Ah well the strong will prevail..
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instead we can create a thread to educate people...like in the title they can include a tag like [noob question]
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instead we can create a thread to educate people...like in the title they can include a tag like [noob question]
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Not a bad idea. But would they follow? Being noob i guess not. Seeing as mosst dont look at the stickies for rules etc
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There's a difference between being "noob friendly" and catering to the minority of what is already a minority. Let's not forget XDA's origins as a DEVELOPER site. The directions provided by devs are almost always complete enough that anyone willing to put in 5 minutes worth of effort to use the search button is able to figure it out.
063_XOBX said:
There's a difference between being "noob friendly" and catering to the minority of what is already a minority. Let's not forget XDA's origins as a DEVELOPER site. The directions provided by devs are almost always complete enough that anyone willing to put in 5 minutes worth of effort to use the search button is able to figure it out.
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I agree that we shouldnt be spoon feeding people. I have gathered knowledge in android and developing massivly over the past few weeks. And i have xda to thanks. Already a senior member and learnt so much more than what i could have ever imagined.
Android is the future! And xda is playing a big part in molding its future. So a massive thumbs up!
I did however encounter some very rude members how could have easily directed me to the rules sticky. We do not need noob Q&A. We jus need to give polite gentle nudges in the right direction, if they are just plain lazy...
Throw em in with the pack of bitter xda "originals" for all i care. as they are branding xda as a "fix my fone" forum. Not as what i hear it was back in the day..
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N00b developer

Not ashamed of the word cause everyone has to start off somewhere.
Yes I am new to android development and i really could use some pointers.
I have 0 experience with Java ... and i am trying to learn the easy way at least to get me started.
i've heard of a product thats supposed to make things super easy called "Livecode" ... its supposed to be multi-platform and they just released their android version of the product.
please make recommendations / advise.
thank you.
One thing that helped me was the newboston tutorials on youtube
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DROIDRAZ said:
One thing that helped me was the newboston tutorials on youtube
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Thanks for the reply, DROIDRAZ.
The thing is i am not too keen on learning java at the moment. That would consume so much time.
I think something like livecode would be a good solution for my current situation.
So before i go and purchase livecode is there anything else like it that you guys may recommend?
I've learn quite a few from newboston YouTube video, as well as from Stackoverflow.
And we have our own forum user creating easy tutorials with explanation for us ->
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1753131
Questions should be posted in Q&A forums, not Development forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?a=81
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A Developer Needed!

I hope this is not considered as spam. I am looking for a developer ( cooker ) to develop a Rom for our tablets. Where can I find one interested in this business?
aalirezaa said:
I hope this is not considered as spam. I am looking for a developer ( cooker ) to develop a Rom for our tablets. Where can I find one interested in this business?
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It actually is. This is not a recruitment agency. It's a development forum. It's full of people willing to help if you are trying your hand at development for mobile.
They are not just tools that you can ask for however.
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SMillerNL said:
It actually is. This is not a recruitment agency. It's a development forum. It's full of people willing to help if you are trying your hand at development for mobile.
They are not just tools that you can ask for however.
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Agree with you we at xda are not tools we are helpers.
Thank you both!
I never thought it is considered "offensive" if you try to hire a developer here. As I noticed most devs have "donate me" and although I understand their intention is only "help" but I believed it can be a business opportunity for some if they like...
No offense, please.
If your device is popular it will attract some developers.
As for now thread closed.

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