[Q] Triple boot idea (WebOS,CM7.1,CM9) - TouchPad General

Hear me out on this one before you shoot me down.
Alpha2.1 has become pretty much a daily for me, with the only real nuisance being the wifi issues. My understanding from other posts is that Alpha3 will be released before moving on to ICS for CM9. If wifi is fixed in Alpha3, it would become a definite daily for me. That said, when CM9 eventually comes out I would like to check it out and provide feedback, but would prefer not to dump a familiar and possible more stable CM7.1 until CM9 becomes as stable.
My question is this. Would it be worth the trouble to setup moboot to triple boot WebOS, CM7.1 and CM9? I doubt the CM team would want to bother with it, but I haven't dealt with moboot until this project. Would it be pretty much the same as editing Grub on a PC to triple boot?
Thank you for your considered opinion.

This is what they posted with the release of CM9 for TouchPad....
CAN I MAKE A TRI-BOOT SYSTEM? (WebOS, CM7, and CM9)
Yes, but don’t bother. There may be instructions forthcoming on this, but it’s a bit advanced - just pick one.
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Guess they are not ready to share that... I think I'm gonna have to ask them about it over at RootzWiki...
I myself am looking for a triple boot solution but for a different reason...
Since Android does not allow for separate profiles on one device to allow multiple users to keep separate system settings thru out it like PC's on Windows user accounts... And it doesn't seem like they are making a iUser version for Android...
I only see a solution of 2 separate installs of CM7 or CM9 (whichever two)... And then each person can choose their installation at boot-up.... Eventually they will need to add password protection to them... But that is longs way ahead...
If u look at the vidz from ReverendKJR on YouTube.... U can see that all the CynagenMod variants seem to end up being listed as the same thing regarding of flavor... But the EverVolv ICS install is listed as a different installation... This is just the listing part.... It doesn't mean they work correctly and don't clash with each other.... But we do know that maybe 3 Roms just fit on the TP...
Hopefully they will release how to do this correctly soon....

Y314K said:
... I myself am looking for a triple boot solution but for a different reason...
Since Android does not allow for separate profiles on one device to allow multiple users to keep separate system settings thru out it like PC's on Windows user accounts... And it doesn't seem like they are making a iUser version for Android...
I only see a solution of 2 separate installs of CM7 or CM9 (whichever two)... And then each person can choose their installation at boot-up.... Eventually they will need to add password protection to them... But that is longs way ahead...
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Triboot instructions may still be coming from what I've read. I hope they do, but if CM9 is stable I may not care as much. As for password protection, to what exactly are you referring? Android already has pins, patternlocks etc.
Well I decided to go ahead with CM9 Alpha0 last night (backed up my CM7 install first). So far super stable, don't really need what's broken (camera, microphone etc). One big reason was that Logmein Ignition hasn't worked since its 14 November update (older version works, but I don't trust the apk download source). Now it works, plus I can now load honeycomb apps! If this keeps up I'll probably never bother with triboot.
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Nomedias said:
Triboot instructions may still be coming from what I've read. I hope they do, but if CM9 is stable I may not care as much. As for password protection, to what exactly are you referring? Android already has pins, patternlocks etc.
Well I decided to go ahead with CM9 Alpha0 last night (backed up my CM7 install first). So far super stable, don't really need what's broken (camera, microphone etc). One big reason was that Logmein Ignition hasn't worked since its 14 November update (older version works, but I don't trust the apk download source). Now it works, plus I can now load honeycomb apps! If this keeps up I'll probably never bother with triboot.
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Cool... Did u do the multiple performance tweaks???... How stable is u'r Wifi???
Right... Screen Password is there.... And would work at startup... But then u would need to turn it off and to turn it back on... I am looking at a two user system for my TP.... With both parties having separate Android installs... I would prefer a moboot or another booter way to make sure the 2nd user only has access to their install of Android & wouldn't be able to mess up WebOs or my install of Android... Seems iUser would work great.. but no Android version seems to be available... Let me know if u find the Tri-Boot info...

Y314K said:
Cool... Did u do the multiple performance tweaks???... How stable is u'r Wifi???
Right... Screen Password is there.... And would work at startup... But then u would need to turn it off and to turn it back on... I am looking at a two user system for my TP.... With both parties having separate Android installs... I would prefer a moboot or another booter way to make sure the 2nd user only has access to their install of Android & wouldn't be able to mess up WebOs or my install of Android... Seems iUser would work great.. but no Android version seems to be available... Let me know if u find the Tri-Boot info...
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Yes, did the two fixes I saw listed. Also ran Alpha 0.5 tonight. Wifi if anything is better than CM7 Alpha3.5. Installed 3 days ago, only had to cycle wifi off/on once. Have joined 5 different SSIDs in that time, two of those on a 7 access point network on different channels (1, 6 and 11). One was open while rest were WPA2 secured.
As for the multi-user setup, if Android isn't an absolute requirement, perhaps an Ubuntu Linux install would do? I don't know how far along the project is, but if it works you should be able to create as many non-root users as you like. Just an idea.
EDIT: Looking in the "Other Touchpad Development" Forum, the Linux projects appear much more "alpha" than CM9 is now. However Arch Linux looks promising.
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Toshiba folio 100 users - general info

Dear Toshiba Folio 100 user.
I have created this thread to use it as a place it discuss all ideas, suggestions, problems, improvements about this device. In this way we can clean some of the general issues in the Dexter ROM thread.
Regards
Marcelo
Applications using the big screen ?
Looking for the best (screen usage) for email and calendar.
The email client in 1.0b is the default one for Android, looking at the email client in Samsung Tab its much better at using the big screen. Also the Folio is much better with white/light background as the "stock" email-client does not have.
Any pointer to a better app ?
The calendar app is much better and uses the screen much better.
Please write about your experiences with apps that works with big screens and works good on the Folio.
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where do you find email client samsung???
Using Startup Manager, would it be possible to disable the phone service or would that result in a nuclear explosion or something like it? i mean, is android dependant on it one way or another, or would it be safe to disable it?
why foliomod ?
Hi to all
mhgonzalez great idea to create this "general" post.
I bought two folio for as Christmas gift, now they are hidden .. but, when I can, I do some test.
I never used android till now but I'm trying to understand why I should install foliomod. During my little usage I didn't find any bug, I only wasn't able to open a ebook (.epub) using the default reader (and I have put the file in the Books folder, anyway) but I suppose it's only because I need to improve my "knowledge".
But at the moment no bugs where find, all the apps installed work properly, wifi it's ok and, after I installed flash plug-in, browsing is ok too.
Not only but I was able to find the few app I saw googoling around the web.
What the folio mod make me able to do more than this ?
mhgonzalez said:
where do you find email client samsung???
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It can be downloaded from
www(dot)gunsforgeeks(dot)com/Email.apk
but it does NOT work on the Folio
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ma1999 said:
It can be downloaded from
www(dot)gunsforgeeks(dot)com/Email.apk
but it does NOT work on the Folio
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That is one of my frustrations. The current email.apk on the folio, as well as the calender, look pretty terrible. In email, I can't even scroll through the different emails, everytime I have to open a message, read, close and open the next. Even on the (rather basic) email.apk on the Galaxy S I have small arrows on top with which I can scroll through to the next or previous message. The Galaxy-TAB email.apk doesn't work (well) on the SGS either.
Also, Samsung have another email-client from com7, I'can;t get that version installed ( a specific Samsung version with great HTML-email-presentation, but alas, missing scroll-arrows also). I'll check the com7-site to see if they have a more general Android version of their email-app and come back on that one.
So if anyone has an other email.apk which works on the Folio, let me know.
kakkio said:
Hi to all
mhgonzalez great idea to create this "general" post.
I bought two folio for as Christmas gift, now they are hidden .. but, when I can, I do some test.
I never used android till now but I'm trying to understand why I should install foliomod. During my little usage I didn't find any bug, I only wasn't able to open a ebook (.epub) using the default reader (and I have put the file in the Books folder, anyway) but I suppose it's only because I need to improve my "knowledge".
But at the moment no bugs where find, all the apps installed work properly, wifi it's ok and, after I installed flash plug-in, browsing is ok too.
Not only but I was able to find the few app I saw googoling around the web.
What the folio mod make me able to do more than this ?
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Dear Kakkio.
Modding the most important in my case was to be able to download application from Android Market, reason why the Toshiba Market is a joke. It depend on what will you do with the Folio. If it is only to browse internet and reading book, dont mod. If you need more, I recomend to mod.
dear mhgonzalez
tnx for your answer, in a few word you give me axactly the info I needed.
Mainly I'll use the tablet to read, listen music, watch video and browsing... but I like to "play" so, after a few, I'm sure I'll go to install foliomod...
In this moment I'm installing android emulator on my ubuntu in order to get a little bit more involved.
TnX again
Kakkio
I quote a post from "pekka91166" from the dexter section because I think is perfect for this section ...
"...I agree with one of the earlier posts on Android (especially Tegra2) tablets versus others, including iPad.
If you're simpoly looking for a tablet which works and works very well, get yourself an iPad. And accept it's a pretty much closed OS.
If you're looking for a working Android tab, go for the SGT, although I'm not sure how well the TAB is working.
With all these tegra2 tablets, we're in for some disturbing months. Right now, these products all seem to suffer from pre-release firmwares which haven't been adapted well enough to the powerful (and partly cheap) hardwarechoices the various suppliers have chosen.
In the case of the Folio100, I knew very well I was buying a product with factory-default rubbish FW, but after reading Dexter's posts I figured it was worth trying, playing, failing and reinstalling.
All in all, I'm happy with the Folio, it's definitely NOT the product is should become, but pretty decent workeable and, last but nost least, FUN (and irritating at the same time).
I just hope Toshiba will, at some point, come with an acceptable FW AND that, in the meantime, Dexter and others will be able to cook some nice firmwares based on 2.2.
The Folio FEELS at some point very powerful, so the Tegra2 should be able to perform, but most of the times it seems lazy. For me a clear indication its the firmware of the machine. Unfortunately, it's a bit the same with a Galaxy S-phone. Powerhouse, but the firmware (2.2) is yet not there to unleash the full power.
Let's hope we'll get 2.3 running on our Tosh and that it supports dual-cores. I expect until then we'll have a nice (and often frustrating) toy to fiddle around with....."
why mod?
For me the big disappointment with the Folio was that none of the Google stuff worked and I expected this from a device with Android.
Dexter has fixed this with his mods and now i can see all my picassa pics in the Gallery, my contacts calendar and email all sync perfectly. Try Google maps with the street view addin and zoom down streets, spin around, it is the sort of app that the tablet excells at.
He has also fixed the Market and there are plenty that are free and work great like tunein radio, some are worth paying for like Bria if you want a good sip client.
I have gone for the v2 mod as it seems to fly, It is not perfect but it is 1000% better.
Others have found v1 mod better for their use. Dexter has made it easy to try them and roll back and has proved to be adept at fixing issues with easy to apply updates , he can also be stimulated with his Donate button, Early reports are that the other tablets arriving with Froyo are hardly better than stock Folio all crippled at birth. Anyway I am grinning. I had a Nokia N800, ****e at first but then the second os release brought it to life and included a cpu overclock. Some have said we are not using both cores properly so I am looking forward to the next Android even if we have to stimulate Dexter to make it work again
but after foliomod I'll found the original apps ? or I have to re-install them again ? or I'll found others ones ?
and if toshiba will create a FW upgrade I'll have to roll-back to the original state to install it?
sorry for the stupid questions
modding
kakkio said:
but after foliomod I'll found the original apps ? or I have to re-install them again ? or I'll found others ones ?
and if toshiba will create a FW upgrade I'll have to roll-back to the original state to install it?
sorry for the stupid questions
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Some will be there and some better ones have been included plus you have acess to the market where you should find everything you need , this is a bit trial and error but people will hopefully post reports of apps that work well on the folio. Yes you would have to go back to stock rom to get the Tosh update. Hah lets see if that comes:
Hi!
Somehow I got stuck in the Foliomod V01...
When I'm in system recovery trying to upate to a later version I only get:
E:Can't mount DEFAULT_PATH
Finding update package
Opening update package
E:Can't open /sdcard/update.zip
(No such file or directory)
Installation aborted.
Formatting MISC:...
When I choose: apply sdcard:update.zip
The same message pops up.
Anybody who has got an idea, how to fix this?
stuck
I would delete the update.zip and put a fresh one there, check on the pc that the zip opens and is not corrupt. Ian
sweeterhome
this launcher looks awesome, i'm gonna try it on the folio and see if it's sucessful =)
http://www.sweeterhome.com/
kakkio said:
dear mhgonzalez
tnx for your answer, in a few word you give me axactly the info I needed.
Mainly I'll use the tablet to read, listen music, watch video and browsing... but I like to "play" so, after a few, I'm sure I'll go to install foliomod...
In this moment I'm installing android emulator on my ubuntu in order to get a little bit more involved.
TnX again
Kakkio
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Kakkio
Hello from Argentina, I see you are Italian, my mother is Italian from Calabria, and my best friend here is Italian who is working in the Italian consulate in my city (Fabio Zarzaca).
More my little daughter is studing in an Italian school called Da Vinci School.
Regards and enjoy your devices.
Marcelo
Anybody know a way to use bluetooth for tethering, like it's possible with the archos tablets?
I've got 2 phones here wich are capable of making a dial up connection, but they are not as advanced as complete smart phones.
First is a LG GD510 POP and the second is a Samsung U600. Neither phone has a wlan connection, so it must be connected through bluetooth.
I can make a bluetooth connection with either of them and can send files and contact cards to them, but a tethering connection is not (yet) possible.
I know in the archos tablets, there is a possibility to tether, but in the folio (and mods) it's not.
Searching only delivers solutions, where the android device is the phone and a pc is the client or where a connection is made through wifi.
jbbrans said:
I know in the archos tablets, there is a possibility to tether, but in the folio (and mods) it's not.
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i dont there is any need to compare other hardware platforms..
the you could say Windows7 works fine with flash, but my android does not..
or my milestone works quite wll too, but still not same platform...
Best is put into accepting Toshiba/Nvidia is still work in progress, other major companies seems to plan using tegra2 and then we will for sure see much better support..
Toshiba released the folio100 too quick, comparing to Malata T2 which is still not out, as they realize its not in an acceptable state, although Nvidia is helping them to improve, they have yet to release their tablet and provide updates.

Thinking of rewriting the root script

I need input on if I should keep everything as is or change it to this kind of menu
Code:
Press 1 to root
Press 2 to add gApps
Press 3 to replace system components
I personally like how it is now but want public opinions.
I personally felt that it was fine as is, very simple and straightforward however, if you could make the Root script Unroot too, that would be interesting. Though i have no wants to unroot so i do not know how the process differs from rooting it (i.e. is doable through batch files) so it is even capable of being done that way. My 2 cents for what they are worth.
Also, do not take this as it can't be improved upon as everything can, however even if you didn't it would be fine as is.
xToxicInferno said:
I personally felt that it was fine as is, very simple and straightforward however, if you could make the Root script Unroot too, that would be interesting. Though i have no wants to unroot so i do not know how the process differs from rooting it (i.e. is doable through batch files) so it is even capable of being done that way. My 2 cents for what they are worth.
Also, do not take this as it can't be improved upon as everything can, however even if you didn't it would be fine as is.
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I already released a unroot one click app. :|
I think it's fine as is. It's easy enough to understand, once you get everything working properly.
I love the root script it eliminated some force close issues on my device. I was wondering since roms are not avaiable if their could be custom scripts. Maybe a super custom script with three keyboard choices a choice of launchers replaced stock email, stock keyboard,gallery, wallpapers, homecatcher and other enhanced apps. I don't know if this is a direction you want to go just throwing it out there. It might help some new users. Also I dont know if its possible to have shortcuts like any cut has incorperated for debug keyboard and application menus that are hidden. Again just thinking outloud so if this sounds like a big pile of suck please just ignore and move on.
yaggermr said:
I love the root script it eliminated some force close issues on my device. I was wondering since roms are not avaiable if their could be custom scripts. Maybe a super custom script with three keyboard choices a choice of launchers replaced stock email, stock keyboard,gallery, wallpapers, homecatcher and other enhanced apps. I don't know if this is a direction you want to go just throwing it out there. It might help some new users. Also I dont know if its possible to have shortcuts like any cut has incorperated for debug keyboard and application menus that are hidden. Again just thinking outloud so if this sounds like a big pile of suck please just ignore and move on.
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When I ran the script, the last part of nookandzergy that put on a custom keyboard didn't work. So I just reset and did the root with saying no to custom keyboard and it worked fine.
I like your idea. I ran the script in the original thread and it said it was successful. But the android market is hinky. It took dforever to register my device, and now it crashes as soon as it is launched. I did a factory reset, still have the same problem. Is there a way to tell for sure that the root was succesfu,. Thanks btw for your hard work on this. It is greatly admired.
Would it help resolve the driver issue that a lot (me) have had?
Dude thats strictly a windows problem. I swear, trying to get this thing detected properly on windows 7/xp was one of the most frustrating adroid rooting experiences I've ever had. After 3 hours f screwing around with the windows method, I switched to Ubuntu linux and had it rooted in 30 min.
I thought you script was fine as is, this is my first Android device and first experience Rooting and everything seems to be working fine. Thanks
Indirect said:
I need input on if I should keep everything as is or change it to this kind of menu
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I personally like how it is now but want public opinions.
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Spoken like a true developer. You craft a thing of beauty and continue to be drawn to making it even cooler.
I don't know if you should rewrite the script or not but I like your attitude!
I decided to not rewrite it to have a numbered menu as that wouldn't go with my idiot pproof batch scripting habits so instead, I added new features yesterday and today.
Sent by breaking the sound barrier
I think it is working great

flash not working in firefox only

hi all
flash works fine in stock browser, dolphin etc. have been liking firefox but sometimes reports flash isnt installed and it just wont install
any hints or is it something i am going to have to live with?
thx
touchpad cm9 5-31
wildfire
badfelafel said:
hi all
flash works fine in stock browser, dolphin etc. have been liking firefox but sometimes reports flash isnt installed and it just wont install
any hints or is it something i am going to have to live with?
thx
touchpad cm9 5-31
wildfire
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All you have to do is go to the Firefox mobile site and when you SEARCH for thebl keyword FLASH the first thing that comes up is a page stating that Firefox for tablets DOES NOT support Flash, although the beta version does but just for phones. Amazing the info I found with a 30 second search and read
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i looked and only found different versions to download, handy if u know where to look. in my job i do things for people who dont know where to look; and its sometimes not as straightforward as the first thing you see in the first 30 sec of looking. so i take it theres no workarounds and no magic touchpad exceptions ... thanks for the info and help tho.
badfelafel said:
i looked and only found different versions to download, handy if u know where to look. in my job i do things for people who dont know where to look; and its sometimes not as straightforward as the first thing you see in the first 30 sec of looking. so i take it theres no workarounds and no magic touchpad exceptions ... thanks for the info and help tho.
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Try ICS Browser+. I'm sure the Mozilla bunch will come up with a fix eventually.
Don't mind the previous poster, he gets off on putting people down. Ask away here, that's what the general and q/a sections are for.
firefox nightly already has support for flash
also some of the aurora builds back in march had it too {if i remember correctly they introduced the flash fix)

[Users][4.0]ICS 4.0.4 support/discussion thread

Well, that time has come. I feel like our ROM is stable enough that I can finally proide support for it without you guys (unintentionally) clogging up the dev thread.
If you have a question, POST IT HERE. If you want to ask about install issues, how to get into devving, or rabid toasters, POST IT HERE. I am closing off the dev thread now that this is created. If you post there without a constructive helpful comment (I will put up criteria there), you will get yelled at, beaten, and sent to slink back to your hole from whence you came.
Okay, now that that's over, I will be providing support in this thread. I am not mean, scary, nasty, or like to drown puppies for fun, despite what the impression the above may give you. I am actually a very helpful person (as most pre-existing members here will agree), and will try to help you, even if you think it's a stupid question.
One rule here: Search first!
I cannot emphasize how important this is. As I said, I am more than happy to answer questions, but for the love of god please don't post something like "wherez the ICS guyzz, I don;t see it in this thrad, this forum sukks". Please use search first before posting. Thank you, and have a nice day.
Well, have fun, and I will answer any questions you have (even if they don't directly relate to ICS).
Install instructions:
Special thanks to daniel644 for the video and his high praises of me .
Guides (thanks to goldflame for these):
Drm manager
YOU MUST HAVE ROOT IN ORDER TO DO THIS!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31201787
Run this in terminal with su permissions
Open terminal Type su Accept the superuser request Follow the code from the post One condition if you reboot you have to repeat the third line of code.
This will fix the market
Here is rooting:
Download tsparky root on your computer from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31067529
Extract the zip plug in your Samsung, turn on USB debugging which can be found in settings-devoloper-usb debugging and run the bat file.
For those of you like me that when you open super user it fcs, here is a guide on how to fix that:
I have rooted, super user won't open now
OK follow theses steps
1) download and install Android commander (Google it)
1a) plug in your device and make sure USB debugging is on
2) open android commander
3) on the right panel go to /system/app and delete super user.apk
4) then go to /system/xbin and delete busybox and su
5) reboot and root again
Worked for me and two other people so it should work for you.
This is a good idea ... hopefully we will see more people pop in here than the dev thread, like to see you guys progress whenever possible and not so much "I need help installing this". I read a few posts of one of your guys requesting people to PM for help but maybe this thread will alleviate that "burden"...
da1writer said:
This is a good idea ... hopefully we will see more people pop in here than the dev thread, like to see you guys progress whenever possible and not so much "I need help installing this". I read a few posts of one of your guys requesting people to PM for help but maybe this thread will alleviate that "burden"...
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Well, answering questions is not a "burden" more than it is something not 100% relevent to our dev thread, which (unfortunately) sometimes gets us off on a tangent. This way, I can help you guys, and we can still be productive in the original thread. Even if your question isn't relevant, pop me a PM, and I will be happy to help you, as long as you have researched first (meaning not stuff like "where's the stock rom"?).
hanthesolo said:
Well, answering questions is not a "burden" more than it is something not 100% relevent to our dev thread, which (unfortunately) sometimes gets us off on a tangent. This way, I can help you guys, and we can still be productive in the original thread. Even if your question isn't relevant, pop me a PM, and I will be happy to help you, as long as you have researched first (meaning not stuff like "where's the stock rom"?).
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This is simply a suggestion, but maybe you guys could make a skype group, if you guys don't do that already. I guess it's a good thing to post in the dev thread the little updates, but I think a skype may be more convenient.
euphoriaflow said:
This is simply a suggestion, but maybe you guys could make a skype group, if you guys don't do that already. I guess it's a good thing to post in the dev thread the little updates, but I think a skype may be more convenient.
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Between devs yes, we use Gtalk on a daily basis, and has been invaluable in getting work done quickly. It would be interesting to use skype and/or Gtalk for support, although we would need a dedicated account for that (and we are currently locked out of our Nova Gmail account, because we forgot the password ).
Not trolling here, but just wondering. Since when did discussion become development? Shouldn't this be in general?
In our one s forums all discussion threads are in the general section.
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Same at the epic 4g touch forums, but to be honest, I don't mind it being here at all. Not too late to move this over there, though.
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hanthesolo said:
Between devs yes, we use Gtalk on a daily basis, and has been invaluable in getting work done quickly. It would be interesting to use skype and/or Gtalk for support, although we would need a dedicated account for that (and we are currently locked out of our Nova Gmail account, because we forgot the password ).
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I do have the pass (I saved them in case we forget it). Also klin, it is considered for general but can be considered like dev too (in the sense of error reporting).
klin1344 said:
Not trolling here, but just wondering. Since when did discussion become development? Shouldn't this be in general?
In our one s forums all discussion threads are in the general section.
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This is a subsection of our development thread, and while it may be better placed in general, it is best here, as we remove the chance of people who create accounts just to complain, and we obtain easier access for users. Plus, I believe I may have an idea to put the community to work, I just need to polish it a bit more.
hanthesolo said:
Between devs yes, we use Gtalk on a daily basis, and has been invaluable in getting work done quickly. It would be interesting to use skype and/or Gtalk for support, although we would need a dedicated account for that (and we are currently locked out of our Nova Gmail account, because we forgot the password ).
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Can't you reset it. Should be easy if you put a recovery email
Sent From My YP-G1 running ICS build 3.5
is this version (3.5) already better than the GB Roms out there? or is it better for domeone like me who likes gaming and music to stay on my current rom until HW and such things are fixed?
btw im using dream Ultra right now because my device makes weird noises when im using other roms
crancpiti said:
is this version (3.5) already better than the GB Roms out there? or is it better for domeone like me who likes gaming and music to stay on my current rom until HW and such things are fixed?
btw im using dream Ultra right now because my device makes weird noises when im using other roms
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I would hold off, but only for a little while longer, there are a few details (market download fix and proper sdcard support) that need to be added into the next ROM build so you don't have to ADB push things or use terminal to enter code after every boot, once those issues are fixed then it should be a good daily. But, if your comfortable and know how to ADB push files and stuff like that then go for it, just remember you WILL be charging it EVERY night due to the deep sleep bug inherited from the CM7 kernel that was used as the base for our CM9 kernel.
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I would hold off, but only for a little while longer, there are a few details (market download fix and proper sdcard support) that need to be added into the next ROM build so you don't have to ADB push things or use terminal to enter code after every boot, once those issues are fixed then it should be a good daily. But, if your comfortable and know how to ADB push files and stuff like that then go for it, just remember you WILL be charging it EVERY night due to the deep sleep bug inherited from the CM7 kernel that was used as the base for our CM9 kernel.
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Is it possible to fix that deep sleep bug?
My milestones that need to be crossed for daily usage would be:
H/W Acceleration
SD Card fixed (internal and external)
Deep Sleep
Everything else either has already been added/fixed (Voodoo!!! Beats removed and optional ) or I could wait for (bluetooth, camera, gps).
You guys are doing a great job though, can't wait for the next build to see how you guys are doing.
da1writer said:
Is it possible to fix that deep sleep bug?
My milestones that need to be crossed for daily usage would be:
H/W Acceleration
SD Card fixed (internal and external)
Deep Sleep
Everything else either has already been added/fixed (Voodoo!!! Beats removed and optional ) or I could wait for (bluetooth, camera, gps).
You guys are doing a great job though, can't wait for the next build to see how you guys are doing.
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once oisis gets his sgp 4.0, he can port a 3.0.x kernal and all these will will be fixed.
da1writer said:
Is it possible to fix that deep sleep bug?
My milestones that need to be crossed for daily usage would be:
H/W Acceleration
SD Card fixed (internal and external)
Deep Sleep
Everything else either has already been added/fixed (Voodoo!!! Beats removed and optional ) or I could wait for (bluetooth, camera, gps).
You guys are doing a great job though, can't wait for the next build to see how you guys are doing.
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if/when Oisis gets a 3.0.x kernel up and going (after he gets his player) hopefully the deep sleep bug will be no more, since its a carry over from the CM7 base kernel and if we have a new kernel that should solve that issue, and should get us to where bluetooth, camera and H/W acceleration could all be possible aswell.
Han, while we wait for Oisis to get his player and do his magic can we get one more build that has the fixed vold.fstab to have both internal and external memory working normally without having to ADB push files to the player and the market fix (if there's an easy way to do it)?
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if/when Oisis gets a 3.0.x kernel up and going (after he gets his player) hopefully the deep sleep bug will be no more, since its a carry over from the CM7 base kernel and if we have a new kernel that should solve that issue, and should get us to where bluetooth, camera and H/W acceleration could all be possible aswell.
Han, while we wait for Oisis to get his player and do his magic can we get one more build that has the fixed vold.fstab to have both internal and external memory working normally without having to ADB push files to the player and the market fix (if there's an easy way to do it)?
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A build with a fixed vold.fstab is possible but for the market fix, this is something related to the initrd that actually needs one more line of code for it to be activated lool.
goldflame09 said:
once oisis gets his sgp 4.0, he can port a 3.0.x kernal and all these will will be fixed.
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Hold up a sec, I'm unsure of the situation a bit here... does oisis HAVE a Samsung Galaxy 4.0?
If not, I'm willing to toss a couple Tens his way (won't mention how much here) with a stipulation. I'm talking about Amazon Credit (which I have alot of) here... An Amazon gift card (via email) would have to be used as Amazon being the purchase website. PM me if there is an interest oisis if this is the case of you not having an actual SGP 4.0 ...
Edit: Ok, I just read that oisis actually did order one from China (?) but if it takes too long I'm still willing to help money wise if needed for any of these great 4.0 devs here developing the ICS rom
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A build with a fixed vold.fstab is possible but for the market fix, this is something related to the initrd that actually needs one more line of code for it to be activated lool.
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OK then, a build with fixed vold.fstab and a file browser like the free ES File explorer so I can sideload my apps.
daniel644 said:
OK then, a build with fixed vold.fstab and a file browser like the free ES File explorer so I can sideload my apps.
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A file explorer? I think I will just fix the kernel so that the drmserver can work on boot. As for the vold.fstab, I cleaned all my repo so it will take a long time before I can get one, I will get it more presumably on the weekend.
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A file explorer? I think I will just fix the kernel so that the drmserver can work on boot. As for the vold.fstab, I cleaned all my repo so it will take a long time before I can get one, I will get it more presumably on the weekend.
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Yeah a file explorer (file browser) so I can access the LEGALLY obtained .apk's I've collected from the developers websites, to install them. for whatever reason there is NO file browser app in this CM9.

Thoughts on the New LENS Miui Release.

So, Just days after making my post about my thoughts on the latest stable Miui.us Rom which is version 2.10.26.3 I was looking through the original dev section and came across (almost as soon as it was put out) The Miui Lens edition. Which was originally titled to imply that the rom was able to be used right off the bat as a daily driver, so I downloaded, and installed it. And here was my original impression.
Before the first update release the rom was uninstallable, but this was fixed.
I installed it to realize that I stupidly had not installed gapps, so I picked from one of my default gapps version I keep on my SD card, and installed it.
I got back into the rom, to realize that out of the hardware keys (back, home, recent apps) the only one working, was back.
Within minutes, this rom was updated to fix said issue. And I currently have all buttons working, that said I am having a haptic feedback issue where none of the buttons make the phone vibrate, this was not enough of an issue to get me off the rom, so I continued and until today was waiting for another update to hopefully fix the issue, but even with said update, issues are existant that still make phone usage not completely satisfying, as it was in the Miui.us 2.10.26.3 version of this rom.
Usability current Testing results, and thoughts:
I would like to start out here by saying that I have every intention of going back to the lens release of miui as soon as I can confirm that it is stable enough for ME to use as a daily, which for me, generally means that everything I do on the phone has to function properly, without the need of downloading a separate application, or having to fix things manually. I like the lens release of the rom more SPECIFICALLY because of the developer. His releases of the Miui rom are getting better, not worse, and I likely believe that he will create the perfect Miui rom for our phone faster than the developers at Miui.us.
1. Miui Launcher Configuration is functioning properly
2. Miui Themes is currently functioning properly as long as an account is set up, during the set up process.
3. Miui Music test showed first, that the app was functioning properly, however upon secondary test of setting configuration I realized that when
the Id3 tag correction and album art download was enabled without setting up an account during setup process, that the music app would F/C
I rebooted and cleared my cache and dalvic.
4. Headphone test (Brought to you by the Lens Rom Forum) failed, without an application (headphone toggle) from the Marketplace any -----------headphones plugged into the device, will not output sound. The device will remain on speaker.
5. Miui Sound Recorder, upon initializing sound record brings the emergency notification (Internal Application Error)
6. Miui Music Visualizer on both lockscreen and widget are responding to system sounds only (such as a notification, or a previously enabled or defaulted touch sound. They do not respond to music.
7. Miui will not detect that music is playing and alter the lockscreen to music format for you, because of this, to access the lockscreen music controls you must double tap on the...dongle to drag and unlock, to switch to the music control lockscreen, this is not a major issue, however with the visualizer not working, the controls, and the widget look a tad bland for Miui. (odd how that works)
8. The Miui Virus Scanning Application is functioning properly (a test was done with a known app to contain a virus, it was found and removed)
9. The Miui Shake to organize on home screen is not currently an available feature for this rom.
10. The Miui Notes application is functioning properly.
11. The Miui Setup Process was completed without error.
12. Miui Wifi download speeds seem comparable to sense. However an issue with rom abuse may cause you to loose ALL internet access until phone was rebooted, I cannot test further as I am still currently unaware of how this happened. But after I got this rom, I was preforming tests on it to test stability for 3 hours straight without letting the device sleep, after 3 hours (and some odd minutes) my internet, while displaying I had a perfect connection in 3g, and wifi, would not download an app, load a webpage (tested on 3 separate browsers), or allow internet access to an application.
13. The Miui firewall application, Seems, to be functioning properly, however when first setup it did not block the first incoming call from test subject. All others, were blocked respectively.
14. The Miui Camera featured in this rom (actually a camera from a previous AOSP rom) is functioning properly, with all settings configured, It is not a Miui Camera but a modded camera none the less, and has interesting features, that I will miss, upon loosing this rom.
15. All Miui Notification configurations are working properly
16. Miui sound mods have been enabled on this device, allowing me to hear my ringtone from 3 rooms away in an apartment (currently not so on cm10, and Paranoid android (tho I do love that rom))
17. Miui Online music, notifications, themes, album art, and id3 tag correction will only work if an account is set up at the initial boot of the room during setup.
18. The Miui Torch is working without issue on this rom.
19. Awesome beats v3 is untestable at the moment but assumed working, as headphones can be enabled.
20. The Miui Built in equalizer is working properly on this rom.
21. The Komodo Sweep to Wake OC kernel is currently working properly on this rom.
22. Live wallpapers are working correctly on this rom
23. Miui Weather Widgets cannot function without a translated version of the Miui Weather Application that can detect US cities (not yet available)
24. The Miui Clock application seems to be functioning properly (tested alarm, timer, timezone config, and stopwatch)
25. The Miui Smart Dialer seems to be functioning properly
26. The Miui Call Record feature seems to be functioning properly (tested on a call with test subject)
27. Lockscreen wallpaper changer, homescreen wallpaper change, and live wallpaper change are functioning properly .
28. There is not a Miui Toolbox application on this rom (No root configuration other than what is listed in settings)
29. Adblock for android seems to be working on this rom.
30. Notification dual touch re-size seems to be functioning correctly on this rom.
31. Lucky patcher confirmed installed properly on this rom.
32. LBE guard and App control Miui Applications are functioning properly on this rom.
33. Prompt requesting root access is working properly on this rom.
34. Anreboot, and goo manager are working properly on this rom.
35. Dual core AOSP mod is functioning properly on this rom.
36. All but weather widgets are currently functioning properly on this rom.
37. Google voice (brought to you by the Lens rom Forum) is not currently working on this rom.
-I would like to point out, that sprint is partnered with google voice, and you can set it to replace your actual voicemail, and text you visual voicemail, making all your texts go to you, and all calls go to you, you have visual voicemail, and regular voicemail. It will also screen your calls and blah blah, idk what the app is for if it already does that, if you know something that you would be missing, please inform me promptly.
38. Lucky patcher patch confirmed working on all different configurations on multiple applications.
39. Flash for JB is working perfectly on this rom.
40. the Miui Browser is functioning perfectly on this rom.
41. the miui contacts application is functioning properly on this rom.
42. The miui messaging application is working properly on this rom.
43. The Miui Torch application is functioning properly on this rom.
44. The miui (breaking news) I just got another music F/C on lockscreen double-tap access
45. The miui Compass is working properly on this rom.
46. All lockscreen transition options are working properly on this rom.
47. 3g, 1x signal bars seem to be accurate in comparison to sense rom.
48. Calendar, reminders for calendar, and notifications for calendar are working properly on this rom.
49. GPS is gives me results accurate to 100 meters on this rom instantly, on Miui.us I get an instant lock to within 20 meters.
50. Mirror widgets are working properly on this phone.
51. Bluetooth is working properly on this rom.
If you have something you would like me to test other than the 51 things i have already tested for you please let me know below and I will try to get around to it within 1-2 days. I will keep a backup of this and of The Miui.us rom and keep them both updated, i will also, keep both of these posts updated to the best of my ability.
Thank you very much, and i hope you have a wonderful day.
Who are you?
Who are you?
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I am...
I am a rom addicted htc user who wants to provide information for those who don't wish to flash a rom, and then find problems, when they could have looked to someone to tell them in the first place, and saved themselves the trouble.
I am also a rom addicted htc user who wants to see the roms I have loved on other devices (like the Miui rom) brought to the phone I love.
So I test to ensure that no one who is looking for a daily driver has to go through the pains of downloading a broken rom without them knowing about it when the information about the problems was nowhere to be found, but the good things about the rom displayed clearly in plain sight.
Thank you for replying to my post, and I hope you have a wonderful day.
If you're gonna do this you should make a general ROM review thread instead of making a new one every time you review a different ROM. Every time you write a different review in the thread just update the op with a link to the post with that review. Its not a bad idea what you're doing. It would just be better for everyone, including yourself, to have them consolidated into one thread.
Thank you for viewing my post.
youdug said:
If you're gonna do this you should make a general ROM review thread instead of making a new one every time you review a different ROM. Every time you write a different review in the thread just update the op with a link to the post with that review. Its not a bad idea what you're doing. It would just be better for everyone, including yourself, to have them consolidated into one thread.
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Definitely understood youdug, actually thinking about creating a thread and moving all old OP review threads down a notch, so that the new review can be made more easily readable by people with quick running attention spans as the thread is updated, using multiple edits thats gonna be a hassle though at the moment while i have a time restricted limit on editing and posting, i was also posting them in seperate threads so that they would be viewed quicker and i could assign multiple tags to each, but i hadnt really thought about how i could put them in one thread while making them easily accessible.
Will definitely create a general rom review thread and find a way to make it work and once again...
Thank you for viewing my post, replying on my post, and i hope you have a wonderful day.
igotlostintampa said:
I am a rom addicted htc user who wants to provide information for those who don't wish to flash a rom, and then find problems, when they could have looked to someone to tell them in the first place, and saved themselves the trouble.
I am also a rom addicted htc user who wants to see the roms I have loved on other devices (like the Miui rom) brought to the phone I love.
So I test to ensure that no one who is looking for a daily driver has to go through the pains of downloading a broken rom without them knowing about it when the information about the problems was nowhere to be found, but the good things about the rom displayed clearly in plain sight.
Thank you for replying to my post, and I hope you have a wonderful day.
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Please don't flash my rom
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flex360 said:
Please don't flash my rom
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Lol
i recommend that you make you own rom and review it
Assuming the authenticity of your post I suggest a pro and con approach to reviewing. Saying that a certain feature is working just makes your review look like a college textbook.
"Thoughts on the New LENS Miui Release."
My thoughts are that it, and a few other ROMs, aren't GPL compliant.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644784
Go easy on the guy, he is doing a service for the noobs
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flex360 said:
i recommend that you make you own rom and review it
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I was thinking wow, amazingly harsh considering I watched this rom coming together over xda via communication between lens and various testers since he doesn't even have the device.. Maybe consider knowing how things came about b4 criticizing?? Just my 2 cents.. No intent of offense whatsoever..
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thankyou...XHAUS
and the others....
I will try and update my rom fully and comply with the gpl compliance rule...
I may have been mistaken but...I thought GPL only complied to Kernels and maybe source based roms.....
If i am doing something wrong..;.Please let me know through PM and I will be sure to fix whatever is wrong....
But to all you evo users
and to all miui users this projects that i am doing for the evo lte is all thanks to the testers.
I couldnt have completed the rom since I dont have the phone..But thanks to the testers here
We all made this happen
Thank you for replying to my post.
Shad Stang said:
Assuming the authenticity of your post I suggest a pro and con approach to reviewing. Saying that a certain feature is working just makes your review look like a college textbook.
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Thank you for replying to my post. I could make it that way but im going to have to figure out how to do so without leaving some things out for testing, I suppose I could test and not post all the results from my testing on the forum and only post that things are working or that they aren't and I appreciate you taking the time to reply to my post.
@flex 360
I hope you do not take this as a REVIEW of the rom, but simply as what is working and what isn't, and im only displaying this information for the people who don't want to take the time to go through 100 pages of a forum to find out if a problem has been solved, just to find 20 pages later that another problem has shown up, Im not displaying this for people testing the rom as they want to go through and find the issues that you may have missed and comment on them to help development. Im writing these from the viewpoint of someone who doesn't want to test a rom, but does want to use it, because I am certain you know that there are a lot more of those people out there than people willing to test the rom.
But if you would like me not to post a view on your rom, I suppose I will not, but I can already promise you, that sometime in the past I have already flashed your rom onto my phone and used it for atleast a little while.
@fpineda101
Thank you for replying to my post, and I am glad that you understand what I am trying to do here along with some others. I am starting to understand that these "reviews" are coming off, to some people, in a different way than I intended them to. Although I would have left the term "noob" out of my comment I appreciate your understanding.
@sparytrainor
Thank you for replying to my post. I sincerely wish you would have read the entire OP before making a comment such as that. I gave many compliments to Lens throughout the entire thing, and I still believe he will have the rom working perfectly on our phones before anyone else out there because of how much effort he is putting into the development of his rom, I in no way intended to state anything negative about his rom, But to give information to people not looking to test, what is working, and what is not. Now that I understand how it is coming off to you and others I will begin to choose my wording more carefully.
Also, I had the rom within minutes of it being posted on xda-developers, and watched as it developed through the forum for a few days. To claim that I should look into knowing the person when I was one of the first to download and await progress is an incorrect assessment.
I also know that he is creating this rom without having the actual phone, which is inspiring, and another reason I attempted to compliment him throughout the entire process of the OP.
@Lens_Flare
Thank you VERY much for replying on my post. I do very much appreciate it and I hope you took no offence to my OP as I in no way intended for it to come off negative. I also hope that you understand my original (and previously stated) purpose for these threads. I am simply stating to the people, (not testers) but the majority, who are looking for a rom to stick with, that they can enjoy from start to finish.
I expect you to be the first to complete this rom for our phone and make it fully functional, WHICH IS ASTOUNDING because you do not have the actual phone. In all respects I look up to you and all rom devlopers on this phone as I am not one who currently possess is the ability to make one, and to be honest if I ever wanted to gain the knowledge and EVER create a rom, it wouldn't become popular as it would be a rom I could not post on this site (for legal reasons based on the apps and features that the rom contained, such as lucky patcher and black mart)
@All Rom Devs on xda-developers.com
I honestly had hoped that I would not have to clarify, least of all to you, my intentions for these threads. I simply originated with thoughts similar to those of the majority (the initial thought being, I want something different) and not as a tester of these roms, but as I came across a few (some not listed on xda-developers.com) and I realized that some of the roms that I REALLY wanted to try on my phone, fall in love with, and never switch from again, claimed no-where on their rom thread what the rom was currently missing, or what was broken (please note: I do not mean ALL roms on this site, but a few) and upon asking, I received the response (Flash, and see for yourself) which I at the time, I was not completely willing to do (as i generally have a pretty busy schedule, and cannot waste time flashing 3-4 roms a day). So i came to the thought everyone does, if you cant find someone to do it for you, do it yourself. Which lead me to do something that i do not generally want to do, but the majority of people downloading your roms are not testers, so i decided to take upon myself. Which is create these threads, and attempt in a way to make the issues seemingly understandable to people who do not even possess the proper knowledge required to understand what is wrong with the rom, even if told to them bluntly. Which i apologize to the majority, but again, is most people.
So if my reviews have AT ALL offended or been taken negatively by any rom developer, or even tester on this site. I sincerely apologize and i will begin to consider the wording in these "reviews". Because i in no way mean to offend, or be harsh, or state anything negative about your rom other than what the majority of people looking will want to see quickly. I view this as supporting your roms, as when a person who knows nothing about rom development, and has no appreciation for the rom developer (which i must sadly say is the majority of people seeking a rom) sees that your rom has ANYTHING AT ALL WRONG WITH IT (by their standards) that was not clearly stated to them, and they aren't willing to accept it, it will be much more difficult to get them to return to the rom, or their friends, or anyone they tell, or anyone who watched the youtube video they make, or anyone who reads their blog. Saddly this is how i must view the majority, and how i must explain to them what is wrong, in order to keep such a thing from happening to any of your wonderful roms that i have tried. I wish to see all of your roms become popular, be boasted about to people on the street by the majority, and see you flourish in the results of the incredible work you are doing to bring these roms to our phone, and this is a way i see to do it. I see one day walking past another on the street and hearing the name of the rom that i watched be developed on this site, And i wish to add my 2 cents in with these threads or this thread (which it is going to become)
Thank you all for viewing, and replying to my post, and i hope you all have a wonderful day.....
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This is kinda needed for these aosp roms so people don't clutter the development threads with questions on what is or isn't working. We all know not everyone reads the OP or searches before posting
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This is kinda needed for these aosp roms so people don't clutter the development threads with questions on what is or isn't working. We all know not everyone reads the OP or searches before posting
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Thank you very much for replying to my post, your reply means alot to me with you being one who has contributed so much
fpineda101 said:
This is kinda needed for these aosp roms so people don't clutter the development threads with questions on what is or isn't working. We all know not everyone reads the OP or searches before posting
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+1
What's with all the hate.. Dang people
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