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Interested in knowing what ASUS is up to for the rest of the year when it comes to the subject of tablets? You’re in luck because at a press event in Taipei today, Samson Hu, the Vice President and General Manager of the Eee Systems Business Unit revealed the company’s tablet roadmap for 2012.
The Transformer Prime will also be getting a 3G version sometime this March and it will pack a more powerful GPS module. At CES, ASUS will be unveiling a 7″ tablet (rumored to be the ASUS Memo) and a 10″ with a high resolution display (could be a completely new tablet or the upgraded Transformer Prime with 3G and better GPS). There are also two more 10″ tablets slated for the second half of 2012.
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/01/asus-tablet-roadmap-2012-revealed/
the fact that Asus is basically doubling it android division to like 400 or more employees and Windows 8 division will only have 150 employees doesn't look too good for Windows 8 at the moment. Clearly shows their focus is mainly on Android. Either way once Windows 8 releases, we will be able to load it up on Prime or dual boot. I'd rather be able to do that vs. a single OS device only. We already got Backtrack5(Hacker Linux) running on Prime so outlook looks good.
I feel like this is the bait and switch. They put out the Prime, it sells like hot cakes but disappoints some users. Then they learn from their mistakes at the cost of the consumer and introduce new products to correct the mistakes.
I'm really trying to be positive about this whole thing, but this really makes it difficult. This is where competition really bites the consumer in the ass.
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I feel like this is the bait and switch. They put out the Prime, it sells like hot cakes but disappoints some users. Then they learn from their mistakes at the cost of the consumer and introduce new products to correct the mistakes.
I'm really trying to be positive about this whole thing, but this really makes it difficult. This is where competition really bites the consumer in the ass.
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How is this bait and switch? Would you prefer that the next product they come out with still have the same problems some have complained about? I'm glad they're learning and are willing to put that knowledge to use on the next product. If companies didn't do that, we'd all be driving Model A cars.
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How is this bait and switch? Would you prefer that the next product they come out with still have the same problems some have complained about? I'm glad they're learning and are willing to put that knowledge to use on the next product. If companies didn't do that, we'd all be driving Model A cars.
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+1 on that, even if I realize I'm lucky being Italian, which means that I had the chance to see various reactions and enough time to decide whether going for the Prime or not. Obviously, if Asus will announce the Prime 3G at CES, I'll wait for it since I have an Acer Iconia A500 in the meanwhile.
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I feel like this is the bait and switch. They put out the Prime, it sells like hot cakes but disappoints some users. Then they learn from their mistakes at the cost of the consumer and introduce new products to correct the mistakes.
I'm really trying to be positive about this whole thing, but this really makes it difficult. This is where competition really bites the consumer in the ass.
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It wasn't "bait and switch", unless the ONLY reason you bought a TFP was for the GPS. If you did, that's just sad...
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How is this bait and switch? Would you prefer that the next product they come out with still have the same problems some have complained about? I'm glad they're learning and are willing to put that knowledge to use on the next product. If companies didn't do that, we'd all be driving Model A cars.
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That's true. But what if they released the Model A, and then six months later released an updated Model A with more features? The people who bought the first Model A might feel burned. OK, I'm done being negative. I agree with your point of view, and I believe that progress is good. Sorry, super tired and still struggling with all of the buggers in the General forum that are trying really hard to make people not enjoy this super awesome tablet. I wish there was a "View Positive Posts Only" option in the XDA.
one will be called the transformer light! tf201x and tf201xg (found this info in the honeycomb system files!)
I am thinking they might go with maybe a 10.1 inch, higher than 1080p screen made of superlight plastic along with a super IPS++ display! Kinda like how you had a DS lite! along with 2gb of ram...... Hopefully it will be able to be used with the same dock as the tf201!
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That's true. But what if they released the Model A, and then six months later released an updated Model A with more features? The people who bought the first Model A might feel burned. OK, I'm done being negative. I agree with your point of view, and I believe that progress is good. Sorry, super tired and still struggling with all of the buggers in the General forum that are trying really hard to make people not enjoy this super awesome tablet. I wish there was a "View Positive Posts Only" option in the XDA.
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I get what you're saying.
(I do want to point out though that it was almost the exact scenario between the first Model A and the first Model B...it was about 6 months between their releases back in 1903/1904.)
You just have to bite the bullet on technology purchases in general; find yourself something you want to buy, then realize that just after you unboxed it, it's no longer the top dog anymore.
I think what Adam is trying to say is it sucks doing research and sinking hard earned money into something that 6 months later will be yesterdays news. I know that's the way it goes but still kind of disappointing. I'm looking for that complete product. Gets expensive ebaying the old and sinking several hundred into another new product.
On another front for those RMA'ing the Prime for GPS issues and ASUS saying they will fix, could they be putting in a Beefier GPS like what's in the upcoming ones? Just a thought.
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That is kind of weird, I would expect them to put more people on windows instead of android. I love android for what it is but I feel like windows is just a much more complete platform. I mean its a little early to judge how well windows 8 is going to run on ARM systems, if its anything close to the windows 8 I installed on my eee slate (ULV i5), then I think it's going be incredible.
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Gets expensive ebaying the old and sinking several hundred into another new product.
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The unfortunate cost of surfing the front wave of technology, right?
i plan on waiting for CES then if something cooler with way better specs comes out I will RMA my dock and tablet plus case to amazon (will only lose about 100 bucks...)
But they catch is it needs to be out within a few weeks after CES!
But anyways we all know we will have tegra4 this summer! kael+ so yeah technology is always moving forward! they never stop and try to squeeze all they life out of it like Game consoles have (ps3 and xbox now 5 years old!)
You just gotta get something stick with your purchase and be happy! then in a year to a year and a half sell it and buy something new!
I plan on buying the Galaxy Nexus when it is released on sprint! even though the next nexus will probaly be out 8 months later!
But i badly need the replacement i cant stand my evo 4g that wont charge unless you hold down the cord! its a pain in the but!
Plus i know the galaxy nexus software will be supported for atleast 20 months long enough to get me to my next upgrade!!
So if you want it buy it basically you cant stop better stuff from coming out!
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Those in the U.S., unless offered by a carrier, a 3G Prime will do you absolutely no good. HTC, LG, Sony, Acer, Archos, Samsung, and Motorola all already offer carrier-free 3G tablets, none of which are available in the U.S. You can import a 3G Prime from overseas but it'll cost you $700ish. If you get a carrier version, you'll either pay $700ish or have to commit to a two year data plan to get a subsidized price. So unless Asus does something that they nor any manufacturer have never done before, bring a 3G device to the U.S. without carrier support, the 3G announcement doesn't mean a whole lot here. And the iPad's not a relevant comparison. Apple dictates what the carriers do, not vice versa. Asus isn't Apple.
As for a higher spec 10" tablet that makes all the sense in the world. With the Lenovo and Acer already announced with higher-res displays, more RAM, and faster processors, Asus should offer a more premium tablet priced higher than the Prime to compete. Display resolution (whether it matters or not) is going to be the hot topic in tablets in 2012. Venturing a guess, I'd say the premium tablet won't have a keyboard dock still leaving that as the Prime's biggest singular feature.
In spite of all issues I am still buying prime. Why? I don't care about gps - i didn't intend to use it as gps-turn-by-turn device anyway, I love its performance, I love the fact, that we will get unlock tool, I hope we as xda-community will be able to run Win8 and Ubuntu on it.
In regard to other announced primes:
- 3g version - I have good internet plan on my mobile, even now I am just ad-hoc connected from my eee 1000he, i dont plan to sign any other contract for mobile carriers. They are literary robbing me every month anyway .
- HD version in H2. If it is announced for H2, it will be avalible in the week before Christmas in Q4, not a day sooner. I need tablet earlier.
HD screen? Why would you need it? -For movies? -For Christ sake it's a tablet, go to your living room and watch a move on 47'' LCD! If you are away from home - 720p should suffice.
can't wait for windows 8 tablets I will be first in line to get one I really have a lot of games and programs that will only run on windows that I would love to have on tablet.
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can't wait for windows 8 tablets I will be first in line to get one I really have a lot of games and programs that will only run on windows that I would love to have on tablet.
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Programs that currently run on Windows under x86/x64 technology won't run under the ARM version of Windows unless someone compiles a version specifically for ARM processors. In fact most information out there states that the classic desktop interface won't be available on the ARM devices, only the metro interface.
Its pretty screwey for a company to release improved versions of a tablet (in less than 6 months).
A lot of Primes have major defects (GPS is broken on all primes but GPS isnt the only defect some primes have), i was lucky and finally got one that seems perfect so far but I had to order two, first one was crap (bad wifi,bad bluetooth,slow performance,long bootup time,screen bleed and a lot of FCs in apps).
Even apple gives people at least a year before they drop on a new and improved product. To me it def sounds like bait and switch sales tactics...
Oh well, my prime now is working well (i don't need gps) and i don't see a reason to upgrade for at least a year.
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can't wait for windows 8 tablets I will be first in line to get one I really have a lot of games and programs that will only run on windows that I would love to have on tablet.
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See this is why windows 8 tablet edition is doomed.
The majority of people honestly believe they'll be getting the same windows they'd be getting on a desktop or laptop.
Windows 8 tablet is ARM, not x86. Meaning that you will only be able to run things developed or ported for ARM. You will NOT be able to just run any windows program.
It's yet another OS that needs things written for it specifically trying to play catch up with android and apples app market. I can't see it being useful at all for at least 6 months unless it's incredibly easy to port apps over, and I'm guessing it won't be considering you're looking at different APIs between OSes.
The only leg up this thing has over RIM, HP, and anyone else running something non ios/android is windows has name recognition and large market share in the x86 world. I imagine a lot of folks will be pissed to discover their exes won't just work on a tablet win8 though since I see folks constantly getting this wrong.
One of the things I like about the Prime is the price: $499 is still an industry-leading price for a leading-edge tablet with 32GB storage. I'm guessing that any sort of uber-Prime (HD screen, 2GB RAM, etc.) will be considerably more expensive.
I'm willing to go $650 for the Prime+keyboard dock. Anything more than that and I'd just bite the bullet and step up to an ultrabook and Kindle Fire combo.
Sprint has updated their end of life list... And it now includes the View...
Is this a sign of the death of this tablet as a hole? Flyer is barely sold and the View is EOL...
Or maybe this is pointing to new tablets during the HTC press event coming up...
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All electronics have a limited lifecyle. The problem with the Flyer and View isn't that they reached EOL so soon, but rather that:
1) The tablets were priced too high, and so sales weren't as robust as HTC would have liked
2) HTC was too slow in porting Honeycomb. In fact, the Honeycomb upgrade pretty much coincided with the tablets being discontinued. Contrast that with the ASUS Transformer Prime, that was released only a few weeks ago (and is still scarce) and already has an ICS upgrade.
EOL doesn't mean much to me. Heck, it might even be a good thing it they release the complete source code.
I mean my captivate is not only EOL, it isn't even sold anymore at all... I still have ICS on it the Galaxy Nexus even hit retail.
Biggest tragedy imho is if something happened to my flyer I wouldn't be able to get another one..
I think it has more to do with the fact that sprint is moving to LTE and they will stop selling all wimax products this year. They will only have their wimax networks online until 2015. Maybe that's why they gave me mine for $0.99. And no activation fee.
It only means sprint wont sell or support it any longer.. (No updates, patches, etc..)
For all those who scooped up the 1saleaday deal (in early December or the one last week ). This is why you got a great deal (I got 3 of em). Sprint wanted to dump them before they had to sell them for $100. Even if you use sprint.. this means nothing. It will still work and (I'm pretty sure) you can still activate it.
If you plan to use it as wifi only (like me).. then this means less than nothing.
XDA Devs offer WAY better support and upgrades than any carrier.
Don't worry. My team (CypherTeam) will be working on an ICS port as soon as we get a final HC build finished. The view will live on and as others stated, reaching EOL just means that we'll get the source faster and be able to do whatever we want.
It really doesn't come as a surprise to me that it came so quickly bc the specs on the View/Flyer are not up there with the majority of tablets. That being said, with the source we should be able to get this thing running close to 2ghz with no issues.
I didn't pay $99, I paid $0.99 or 99 cents. I couldn't believe it was that cheap. I had to have a plan to get it that cheap, but I have 6 business lines now, so the 15% discount makes the tablet plan end up being free, and I use it pretty much exclusively wifi anyway.
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I think it has more to do with the fact that sprint is moving to LTE and they will stop selling all wimax products this year. They will only have their wimax networks online until 2015. Maybe that's why they gave me mine for $0.99. And no activation fee.
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Wait what? You got the Evo View for 99 cents??
Is that with a 2 year contract??
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Don't worry. My team (CypherTeam) will be working on an ICS port as soon as we get a final HC build finished. The view will live on and as others stated, reaching EOL just means that we'll get the source faster and be able to do whatever we want.
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Does that mean view hopefully can be used on LTE NET ?
Yea HTC definitely dropped to ball with the pricing of it.
Our tablet is still awesome, single core but comparative in speed to dual core tablets out there in the market.
I'm really happy with my purchase.. now I wish we had more dev interest around for our devices
Yeah they were priced as high as a dual core 10 inch honeycomb tablet yet only had a single core, gingerbread, and a 7 inch screen. Don't get me wrong I prefer the 7 inch size, but not for the same price as a bigger tablet. I mean honestly with its high clock speed and 1 gig of ram, it feels as fast as any dual core tablet and I think it could of been a hit had htc priced it at say $300 at launch.
Imo I think they shouldn't be so quick to give up on them. I think they should update them to ics and sell them new for $200. I guarantee it would be a hit especially over the craptastic kindle fire!
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In all fairness to HTC the tablet out right feels like a 500$ tablet.. which is what made the 300$ price tag so sweet.
My girlfriend ordered one off of ebay just yesterday because her Nook Color just doesn't compare. She uses it too much like a tablet and even after loading CM7 and what not on it, is just tired of constantly fixing issues..
The tablet has a premium feel and if they could make profit at 200$ I would think they would have already priced it at 200$..
The acer A100 is an alternative to the flyer at 250$ and as cheap as 200$.. It sure as hell doesn't feel like the flyer and lacks a lot of the refinement. The problem is now, even at 200$ people would look at the specs and never even try it out before looking down on it.
People are more concerned with specs than actual experiences these days.. (well in the phone world at least.. in the desktop world specs mean a bit more).. It really is sad that because of marketing techniques and the way devices are sold that the flyer gets over looked..
I finally bought my Flyer yesterday. Though there were many choices in the same price range (including iPad 2), I had made up my mind due to the no-nonsense spec.s, solid build & of course, the pen! And I must say, I am thoroughly impressed by this baby..looking forward to being a part of the XDA Flyer community..
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In all fairness to HTC the tablet out right feels like a 500$ tablet.. which is what made the 300$ price tag so sweet.
My girlfriend ordered one off of ebay just yesterday because her Nook Color just doesn't compare. She uses it too much like a tablet and even after loading CM7 and what not on it, is just tired of constantly fixing issues..
The tablet has a premium feel and if they could make profit at 200$ I would think they would have already priced it at 200$..
The acer A100 is an alternative to the flyer at 250$ and as cheap as 200$.. It sure as hell doesn't feel like the flyer and lacks a lot of the refinement. The problem is now, even at 200$ people would look at the specs and never even try it out before looking down on it.
People are more concerned with specs than actual experiences these days.. (well in the phone world at least.. in the desktop world specs mean a bit more).. It really is sad that because of marketing techniques and the way devices are sold that the flyer gets over looked..
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I also started with the nook color as my first tablet.
Quickly sold it though because I got a hell of a deal with the HTC flyer.
I recommend flashing the CM7 ROM directly to the emmc/hard disk on the NC. Don't rely on the microSD card.
I had issues too until I did this.
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Acer A510
(Tegra 3, Android 4.0)
n.4 in Glbenchmark top 5
Price 370 euro
ASUS Google Tablet 7
Price 149 $
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hmm that is not the prime...neither of them but its nice to have a asus small tablet the price will go down when the infinity comes out..
is there a ETA of the infinity?
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hmm that is not the prime...neither of them but its nice to have a asus small tablet the price will go down when the infinity comes out..
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What I mean is, because there is the Acer A510, that is like the Prime (same specs if not better specs) but has lower price then the Prime and there is this ASUS google Tab for just 149$, the Prime can not keep the price it has now.
It appears to be the same price with only 16Gb
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What I mean is, because there is the Acer A510, that is like the Prime (same specs if not better specs) but has lower price then the Prime and there is this ASUS google Tab for just 149$, the Prime can not keep the price it has now.
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Tech device like thse are like cars, their value deperciate quickly, as new thing constantly comes out.
So what else is new?
In searching on Acer A510, looks like scuttlebutt from EU blogs is that A510 will sell for €399 in EU and £370 for UK. Price in USD should be same as EUR. Asus TP300 should be priced same. Both will have a tough time competing against iPad 2 at price parity. Don't expect a big marketing push for these models. These are what you call placeholders.
Per Acer press release, A510 will have a 9.8Ah battery for 50% improvement over previous gen. A500/100 had poor battery life. 3.7V also means USB charging is likely doable. OTOH, buh-bye full USB port...
Battery capacity:
A500: 3.26Ah * 7.4V = 24.1 Whr
A100: 1.53Ah * 7.4V = 11.3 Whr
A200: 3.26Ah * 7.4V = 24.1 Whr
A510: 9.80Ah * 3.7V = 36.3 Whr
Re: Prime price cut - Doubt it. More likely is Prime will continue w/ limited availability until new models are intro'ed.
Re: Goog el-cheapo tab - Verge rumor sez $199, which sounds more reasonable. Will probably have OMAP 4430 like Fire/Nook. Hopefully 1280x800. Probably 1GB/8GB RAM/flash.
Geek Qs: Unlocked bootloader? GED w/ direct updates from Goog? Since it's Goog, bet on working GPS. Helps with location-based ads.
Larger implication: Will other vendors be happy? Then again, it's not like there's much action going on in the 7" front. But if Goog lowballs the 7" market, no one will want to step in. How can you compete with a $200 official Google tablet? For better or worse, Goog will have to carry its own ball from now on--at least for the 7".
How would a lowball 7" Goog tab affect the 10" market? Calling all Nostradami...
My magic 8-ball sez it depends on how much enthusiasm Goog can whip up w/ Jelly. In terms of buzz, ICS is clearly buzzed out. 5 months post-launch, and adoption = 0.0000001%. Sales is about excitement first, price second. I don't see too many excited Android peeps here.
And it's not just about the home team. If Win8 tabs hit a home run come fall, Goog will have to carry its own bucket regardless. So might as well start now.
After decrypting your cryptic language and adapting to the slang, I appreciate what you wrote.
I think most will not take on the task to decypher...
GuenChan said:
After decrypting your cryptic language and adapting to the slang, I appreciate what you wrote.
I think most will not take on the task to decypher...
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I read it just fine.... this is a developer forum and the slang isn't wayyy over top.
However, I agree in general settings as a rule of thumb it's better to write for a broad audience, but being a dev forum it's not totally inappropriate
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I read it just fine.... this is a developer forum and the slang isn't wayyy over top.
However, I agree in general settings as a rule of thumb it's better to write for a broad audience, but being a dev forum it's not totally inappropriate
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Asus is playing real dumb. Soon as Samsung and other companies put out their high end tablets they will be easy to buy because they know how to release a product and have it available. Who's gonna be searching all over for an Asus when you walk into any electronics store and buy a Samsung/Acer, etc??? If Asus wanted more business they should have flooded the market with their Prime since it is right now the only tegra tablet available, but the dumbo's made it almost impossible to get, even after 3 months on the market. They need to go back to business 101.
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Asus is playing real dumb. Soon as Samsung and other companies put out their high end tablets they will be easy to buy because they know how to release a product and have it available. Who's gonna be searching all over for an Asus when you walk into any electronics store and buy a Samsung/Acer, etc??? If Asus wanted more business they should have flooded the market with their Prime since it is right now the only tegra tablet available, but the dumbo's made it almost impossible to get, even after 3 months on the market. They need to go back to business 101.
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Who knows why Asus didnt decide to flood the market with the prime... Maybe the prime was pressured to be released when it wasnt ready yet. Maybe Asus wanted to know how the prime is going to be accepted at its state when released. Maybe they wanted to make the prime a limited edition. Maybe they wanted to leave room for the Pad 300 and Infinity series. Maybe they'll drop the price 100 dollars when the infinity series comes out, like what apple did with Ipad2 and the new Ipad... Who knows... only Asus knows..
Why didn't asus flood the market? Because the ones that didn't sell by the time others put out T3's will gather dust or be sold for very little profit. Would you want to be the store that has a large inventory off first generation Transformers (or like generation tablet's)?
I still think Tegra 3 supply has been limited. I think the best sign of that supply improving will be actual stock of other Tegra 3 devices hitting the street. So far, there's been lots of talk bit nothing actually shipping.
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Tell that to HTC. And phones sell in significantly larger quantities than tablets.
HTC One X, One S to launch on April 5 in the U.K.
Posted: 3 days ago, 09:50, by Nick T.
First the good news: we have an update regarding the HTC One S and HTC One X release dates. Both smartphones are expected to hit the shelves on April 5. Now the not-so-good news: word comes from sources in the U.K., meaning that the U.S. release dates for the two smartphones may vary. The April 5 release date for the Tegra 3 powered HTC One X comes from U.K. carrier O2, which spilled the beans in a tweet this morning. Meanwhile, online retailer Phones4u is already accepting pre-orders for the HTC One S with shipping expected to begin on that very same day.
I got word today from a source. Not sure if it is really reliable, but it certainly sounds like Asus to me.
Asus has NO plans at all to release their 700 model until winter/Christmas holidays so they can reap in the big sales. Of course they had a couple at the electronics show, but that was just a prototype model and Asus wanted to make some headlines to boost sales. This is why they are very quiet about release time during the electronics show because they didn't want to tell anyone it would be months and months away. Bad publicity if they were to do that. It does kind of make sense a little. They completely failed on the release of their TF201 which never made Christmas/winter holiday and has been difficult to buy ever since. Asus just doesn't want that many TF201's out there, hence the very slow production rate. It was difficult to buy an TF201 3 months even after it came out. That should tell you something. I was told they released the 300 model just to be available for the potential customer's that didn't want all the issues and problems with the TF201. This is why they are almost identical. What to believe? Who knows. I do believe we won't see the TF700 until late, late this year. It does make a little sense to me and I never did understand why the TF201 was so hard to get 3 months after release.
some of it makes sense, alot doesn't. if Asus didn't want to sell prime, they could've easily stopped producing and stopped selling them. its hard for some people to get a hold of. for others its easy. Prime is still being sold. The 300 wasn't released to mask problems of prime. they always had this 3 tablet lineup in mind. I agree the 700 won't be out anytime soon, at least here in U.S.
take everything with a grain of salt. for the simple fact that people were speculating prime being discontinued only a week or 2 after release, and here we are over 6months later and its still available and being sold says alot. people working at Bestbuy here said they have plenty of them and shipments still coming in. it would probably be better if Asus were to wait to the holidays to release, they should release it with new android jellybean firmware and possibly a newer tegra3 chip. Last thing Asus needs to do is to rush a product again. they will release once they feel confident in the best timing for it.
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And the couple of hundred thousand they could sell before that would somehow prevent them from selling them for the holidays? If people are buying tablets now regardless of brand their off the market for the holidays anyway.
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I got word today from a source. Not sure if it is really reliable, but it certainly sounds like Asus to me.
Asus has NO plans at all to release their 700 model until winter/Christmas holidays so they can reap in the big sales. Of course they had a couple at the electronics show, ....
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Engadget are reporting that the Asus Transformer Pad Infinity has hit the FCC.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/21/asus-transformer-pad-infinity-series-hits-the-fcc/
Wouldn't Asus wait a bit before applying for FCC approval if Christmas was the release date in NA? What about back to school/college market in August?
The cheaper 300 is aimed for students and back to school market.
The tf201 seems extremely hard to get, even at this point I live in NL and very few shops have it In stock, and if they have it they have very few, luckly I got one of the last ones, I sent it back to Asus because the camera didn't work , 3 weeks in not a word from them, and tbh releasing the tf700t in winter is kind of bad, the iconia tab a700 is around the corner, so I may just get that instead
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Ya it makes more sense to me to release it sooner than later, look at the playbook, they waited too long with their dual core tablet and gave samsung and HTC a chance to catch up. If RIM had released the playbook before christmas like they should have they would have stolen a lot of sales from sammy and HTC.
As long as they can get a decent supply down i see no reason for Asus to wait. Just as long as they take control of their QC issues.
Later would definitely be bad news, granted the 600 nit screen is a selling point for a lot of people, but knowing that the a700 isn't going to have the lightbleed problems AsusQC has missed out on allot of the time may be what pushes me that way. I can handle the heat with a case. You'd think Asus would want that tablet out sooner than later, because the note10.1 will appeal to more of the mass public as well.
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The tf201 seems extremely hard to get, even at this point I live in NL and very few shops have it In stock, and if they have it they have very few, luckly I got one of the last ones, I sent it back to Asus because the camera didn't work , 3 weeks in not a word from them, and tbh releasing the tf700t in winter is kind of bad, the iconia tab a700 is around the corner, so I may just get that instead
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Excellent point, if the problems that the prime has are not completely taken care of I will have to consider other tab makers should I choose to update. The screen and form factor kept me with Asus so far, but the reboots on a machine that's 500+ dollars is unacceptable at this point for any reason. And I'm sure the infinity will retail for more, so it might be in the same price range as a W8 tab. Point is if I'm dropping over half a grand at the very least the basic functions better be flawless.
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I got word today from a source. Not sure if it is really reliable, but it certainly sounds like Asus to me.
Asus has NO plans at all to release their 700 model until winter/Christmas holidays so they can reap in the big sales. Of course they had a couple at the electronics show, but that was just a prototype model and Asus wanted to make some headlines to boost sales. This is why they are very quiet about release time during the electronics show because they didn't want to tell anyone it would be months and months away. Bad publicity if they were to do that. It does kind of make sense a little. They completely failed on the release of their TF201 which never made Christmas/winter holiday and has been difficult to buy ever since. Asus just doesn't want that many TF201's out there, hence the very slow production rate. It was difficult to buy an TF201 3 months even after it came out. That should tell you something. I was told they released the 300 model just to be available for the potential customer's that didn't want all the issues and problems with the TF201. This is why they are almost identical. What to believe? Who knows. I do believe we won't see the TF700 until late, late this year. It does make a little sense to me and I never did understand why the TF201 was so hard to get 3 months after release.
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Hmm, a lot of it doesn't make sense.
1.) Releasing a product for Christmas is traditionally one of the worst time of the year to launch a new product.
2.) Acer A700, product with similar spec to Asus Infinity 700 just went through FCC....
3.) Even if Infinity 700 gets released with Jelly Bean, I doubt it'll be the flagship Jelly Bean tablet (unless the rumored 7 in. Google/Asus tablet is scrapped)... And by releasing late in the yr for "Christmas"... Asus is looking at competition from W8 tablets, possible Apple 7in. variant iPad .. & already released Android tablets with very similar spec with the possibility of discounted price.
4.) Finally, showing off Infinity Pad 700 as prototype pissed off Prime owners & it sets up for major failure if the initial plan was to launch the product a full year later (a year worth of PR can have very negative effect).
The only possibility based on this rumor is...
1.) Tegra 3 version of Infinity 700 is scrapped for US at least..
2.) Asus will release S4 dual-core 3g/4g LTE version at the end of the year through US carriers... this sort of makes sense.
Actually, the Infinity 700 just went through the FCC as well. There's no way they did that 6 months ahead of time.
opentoe said:
I got word today from a source. Not sure if it is really reliable, but it certainly sounds like Asus to me.
Asus has NO plans at all to release their 700 model until winter/Christmas holidays so they can reap in the big sales. Of course they had a couple at the electronics show, but that was just a prototype model and Asus wanted to make some headlines to boost sales. This is why they are very quiet about release time during the electronics show because they didn't want to tell anyone it would be months and months away. Bad publicity if they were to do that. It does kind of make sense a little. They completely failed on the release of their TF201 which never made Christmas/winter holiday and has been difficult to buy ever since. Asus just doesn't want that many TF201's out there, hence the very slow production rate. It was difficult to buy an TF201 3 months even after it came out. That should tell you something. I was told they released the 300 model just to be available for the potential customer's that didn't want all the issues and problems with the TF201. This is why they are almost identical. What to believe? Who knows. I do believe we won't see the TF700 until late, late this year. It does make a little sense to me and I never did understand why the TF201 was so hard to get 3 months after release.
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The TF700 will be released by the end of Q2, in fact it just passed FCC approval. As to the other points, your source is severely messed up.
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Actually, the Infinity 700 just went through the FCC as well. There's no way they did that 6 months ahead of time.
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That's basically what I said in an earlier post.
Thanks to Gary for confirming a late Q2 release. I hope this is all of NA and not just a USA release.
Who still skeptical now? Lol
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The TF700 will be released by the end of Q2, in fact it just passed FCC approval. As to the other points, your source is severely messed up.
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Thanks for the clarfication. it was like I said before. [email protected] sources being severely messed up.
to the doubters lol
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yhzhrm said:
That's basically what I said in an earlier post.
Thanks to Gary for confirming a late Q2 release. I hope this is all of NA and not just a USA release.
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Its for overseas first, I believe. Na release will follow afterwards. this can change though. they call the shots. could surprise everyone and release all at once.
I'm ok with the Prime right now.They just need to fix these dang browser issues. Tegra 3 (Quad Core) should be just as fast a laptop..if not faster at browsing web pages.But the next update better be the answer I've been waiting on or it's hello W8 tablet,Samsung tablet. They actually have 2 speakers on their new budget tablet facing the user (brilliant). Yet the TF700 will still have the same design as the TF201 with the speaker facing away from the user which makes you have to put your hand near it to hear it good. Asus needs to take some damn notes on design for 1 thing !!
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I hope this is all of NA and not just a USA release.
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The TF700 will be released by the end of Q2, in fact it just passed FCC approval. As to the other points, your source is severely messed up.
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Thank you Gary! Your confirmation will be appreciated by many here just itching to get their hands on this table....myself included
Already pre-ordered the Infinity 64GB + Dock in Norway, so I'm glad to see it's confirmed for Q2.
To put it this way, if the Infinity delays to Q3 or Q4, I will most likely buy a Win8-tablet instead. And I'm pretty sure I'm not alone with those thoughts
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Ya it makes more sense to me to release it sooner than later, look at the playbook, they waited too long with their dual core tablet and gave samsung and HTC a chance to catch up. If RIM had released the playbook before christmas like they should have they would have stolen a lot of sales from sammy and HTC.
As long as they can get a decent supply down i see no reason for Asus to wait. Just as long as they take control of their QC issues.
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People are buying new Primes today with QC issues.
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The TF700 will be released by the end of Q2, in fact it just passed FCC approval. As to the other points, your source is severely messed up.
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Apparently my source is "messed up", so lets move on to an more important issue.
Assuming the TF700 will be about $600-$700 (it is a step up from the Prime) can you confirm there finally will be quality control on these products and all the features work like intended? I've had 5 Prime tablets. All with QC issues. If I would ever consider buying another Asus product again I'd like to hear from the source itself. If not, I'll just make a half mortgage payment.
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assuming the tf700 will be about $600-$700 (it is a step up from the prime) can you confirm there finally will be quality control on these products and all the features work like intended? I've had 5 prime tablets. All with qc issues. If i would ever consider buying another asus product again i'd like to hear from the source itself. If not, i'll just make a half mortgage payment.
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I do like my Prime very much, don't love it but like it. I'm hoping Asus would give Prime owners a discount or rebate or something so we can purchase the Infinity (whats after Infinity for the next tablet? Infinity plus 1?) I'm sure there will be quiet a few Primes on Ebay and Craigslist mine included.
I'm not a troll, don't go down that track...
Niteize said:
I do like my Prime very much, don't love it but like it. I'm hoping Asus would give Prime owners a discount or rebate or something so we can purchase the Infinity (whats after Infinity for the next tablet? Infinity plus 1?) I'm sure there will be quiet a few Primes on Ebay and Craigslist mine included.
I'm not a troll, don't go down that track...
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Just forget about it.
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I do like my Prime very much, don't love it but like it. I'm hoping Asus would give Prime owners a discount or rebate or something so we can purchase the Infinity (whats after Infinity for the next tablet? Infinity plus 1?) I'm sure there will be quiet a few Primes on Ebay and Craigslist mine included.
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Why would you want a tablet with the same problems? From the Infinity benchmark, it seems the I/O is just as poor on it as the Prime.
If you are not happy with the Prime, I doubt the Infinity will make you feel any better about it.
Why buy another Asus product? After reading a few threads the other day i feel that is a general consenous. The true question is with the ever so changing tech in our world. You are willing to buy another Asus tablet? Me personally im not sure. Mine isnt bad but i deff have my quirks.
No chance.
Heh. In a perfect world...
However, in a perfect world, the Prime wouldn't be as screwy as it is. I'm personally done with their products.
Prime isnt perfect, but its still the best Tablets for my needs Its a complete laptop replacement for me.
The infinity is cool but the resolution isnt an issue for me and wifi is perfect for my needs. GPS was never needed in my situation.
Show me Tablet that offers the same or more functionality as the prime/infinity for the same price?
Me too. I'm done with them. I was having problems with their mobo that lasted a year; RMAed it and got sent a replacement with 2 dead RAM slot; special RMAed that, my replacement was late and 1 dead RAM slot and BIOS issue. deciding whether I wanna try again. Essentially i believe they sent me un-"fixed" mobo that other people sent in. I mean QA that crap. It's not that hard to test. Sorry I digressed. But between that and the Prime fiasco, they lost me. The sad thing is they USED TO BE really good b/c years ago I didn't have a problem.
Ain't gonna happen.
Sorry, there is no Santa Claus. :crying:
Well what other options are there? please don't say Toshiba or worse Apple, we are here because we don't want to be dictated too from Apple. Maybe Samsung has something up their sleeve? Hoping Google I/O will have something for us to get excited about.
I'll be getting a Samsung next
There's nothing Asus can do at this point to make me a return customer. Nvidia can go f¥ck themselves too they're the real problem
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Its not happening. I already checked, several times actually. no upgrades, no discounts, no deals, no nothing.
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Well what other options are there? please don't say Toshiba or worse Apple, we are here because we don't want to be dictated too from Apple. Maybe Samsung has something up their sleeve? Hoping Google I/O will have something for us to get excited about.
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Galaxy Note 10.1 my friend, Galaxy Note 10.1.
demandarin said:
Its not happening. I already checked, several times actually. no upgrades, no discounts, no deals, no nothing.
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I for one think you deserve a "free" Infinity for all the dmg control & marketing you do for Asus. Of course, if you do receive one.. I hope you don't tease everyone of the privilege you are receiving.... no matter how "daring" e.mote is. =P
Well stated. Let Gary know..lol
shinzz said:
I for one think you deserve a "free" Infinity for all the dmg control & marketing you do for Asus. Of course, if you do receive one.. I hope you don't tease everyone of the privilege you are receiving.... no matter how "daring" e.mote is. =P
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I know right..lol thanks...if I did I wouldn't tease. id more then likely take requests on testing things people would want to know.
Maybe if IM lucky they would look out for me like that but I wouldn't hold my breathe on it. Lol
Send Gary a pm or email saying what you said here
By tease ... I meant... Not revealing any info on you receiving one. This forum isn't going to take that well if you received one for free...
Thus, if you do receive one... ANY info. (even if you wanted to do testing for others) on it should be disclosed & keep it personal to yourself.
I'll pass, only motherboards from ASUS from here on out. It's too bad they're making the nexus tab.
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Maybe Samsung has something up their sleeve?
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I have to say: Forget Samsung. I've got a S+, the device itself is good, but Samsung's support is the worst I've ever seen. You believe Asus is a bad company? They shipped out free GPS-dongles for at least *some* customers and they really seem to try to sort issues out (although they obviously fail).
Now to my experience with Samsung: The S+ is offered by Amazon since the 1st July '11, what has Samsung done since then? They added more bloatware to their ROM and managed to decrease the performance. I also bought the S+, because I thought it would get an Update to ICS, and I was not alone with that opinion. Well, Samsung has not updated to ICS, because our device "can't handle it", instead they released a "Value Pack", which adds the look of ICS. Arco ported ICS9 to the S+ and it runs better than all GB versions from Samsung. And remember, Samsung also "wants" you to flash through Kies.
If you want something that works out-of-the-box, then pick everything but Samsung.
My experience with Asus is definetley better than with Samsung.
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By tease ... I meant... Not revealing any info on you receiving one. This forum isn't going to take that well if you received one for free...
Thus, if you do receive one... ANY info. (even if you wanted to do testing for others) on it should be disclosed & keep it personal to yourself.
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point taken. honestly, IM interested in their win8 talerts now. I can't imagine infinity pad experience being much different than prime. aside from higher resolution screen. that transformer book or 600 or 800 is what I really want. I wouldn't mind getting back into windows scene again.
Theres a ton of tablets about to drop soon. font know if its a good idea to get one of these new ones or wait till 2013. by then these new tablets will have newer upgraded processors. Android or win8 with tegra4 is what IM really waiting for. even quad core exynos would be good. ibe seen some articles stating new T3+ will likely be used in new tablets and not just phones. I see nvidia milking tegra3 or T3+ till tegra4 is ready. I think tegra4 might pop up end of q1 2013 or q2 if we lucky.
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point taken. honestly, IM interested in their win8 talerts now. I can't imagine infinity pad experience being much different than prime. aside from higher resolution screen. that transformer book or 600 or 800 is what I really want. I wouldn't mind getting back into windows scene again.
Theres a ton of tablets about to drop soon. font know if its a good idea to get one of these new ones or wait till 2013. by then these new tablets will have newer upgraded processors. Android or win8 with tegra4 is what IM really waiting for. even quad core exynos would be good. ibe seen some articles stating new T3+ will likely be used in new tablets and not just phones. I see nvidia milking tegra3 or T3+ till tegra4 is ready. I think tegra4 might pop up end of q1 2013 or q2 if we lucky.
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You do realize that Tegra 3+ and even Tegra 4 (grey) is based on A9 right? Which .. like you said.. is basically milking Tegra 3 & nothing more... without significant improvement... except.. drop to 28nm, increase clock speed & increase GPU core to make it sound like it is vast improvement. All the issues & bottlenecks being found in Tegra 3 will persist as it shares the same architecture.
Tegra 4 (wayne).. if it is even Tegra 4 anymore .... most likely will be delayed even further to late 2013.
Jake Y. Tweet said:
I have to say: Forget Samsung. I've got a S+, the device itself is good, but Samsung's support is the worst I've ever seen. You believe Asus is a bad company? They shipped out free GPS-dongles for at least *some* customers and they really seem to try to sort issues out (although they obviously fail).
Now to my experience with Samsung: The S+ is offered by Amazon since the 1st July '11, what has Samsung done since then? They added more bloatware to their ROM and managed to decrease the performance. I also bought the S+, because I thought it would get an Update to ICS, and I was not alone with that opinion. Well, Samsung has not updated to ICS, because our device "can't handle it", instead they released a "Value Pack", which adds the look of ICS. Arco ported ICS9 to the S+ and it runs better than all GB versions from Samsung. And remember, Samsung also "wants" you to flash through Kies.
If you want something that works out-of-the-box, then pick everything but Samsung.
My experience with Asus is definetley better than with Samsung.
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You do realize you are comparing Smartphone support to Tablet support. Can't compare the two...
Smartphone.. due to "carrier" restrictions.. have pathetic support throughout the whole sector. Even the "Nexus" devices have craptastic support in s/w....
Also, Samsung devices are released with unlocked bootloader & nvflash....
Asus devices aren't....