I was confused for the first few days when I would tell an app to backup its settings on the sdcard and then later they couldn't be found. I just realized that HTC has the internal memory mounted as /sdcard and the MicroSD card mounted as /sdcard/ext_sd/
This is a great idea IMO and I always wished it was this way on my Incredible. I always hated how on my Droid and my Incredible that all my settings files were crapping up my sdcard instead of the internal memory (which I rarely ever used for storing stuff), it made it a pain to find things when you were placing the MicroSD card in other devices since you had to hunt through all the settings folders.
The more I use this phone the more I like it.
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I was confused for the first few days when I would tell an app to backup its settings on the sdcard and then later they couldn't be found. I just realized that HTC has the internal memory mounted as /sdcard and the MicroSD card mounted as /sdcard/ext_sd/
This is a great idea IMO and I always wished it was this way on my Incredible. I always hated how on my Droid and my Incredible that all my settings files were crapping up my sdcard instead of the internal memory (which I rarely ever used for storing stuff), it made it a pain to find things when you were placing the MicroSD card in other devices since you had to hunt through all the settings folders.
The more I use this phone the more I like it.
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Direct link is sdcard2
This messed with me for a lil while. I was trying to restore backups of my launchers and other stuff.
Had to mount it on my comp and move needed files to the internal sd and left other junk on ex sd.
now im rocking 7gb internal and ~20gb external. wtf am I going to do with all this space?
I'm not a fan of it by any means. I think they should have made internal SD2 and let the actual SD card be sdcard. Titanium saves everything to the internal memory now because of its name, which is stupid. And I don't see anywhere to change the directory Ti saves to, just the folder name. So anytime I do a backup, I have to copy the folder from internal memory to the SD card. I'm not sure what else is performing the same actions, hopefully not everything else.
This also really complicated folks like me with Exchange accounts that require encryption of your card. Since the internal memory is now listed as a sd card it encrypts the internal drive too stopping others programs from writing to it
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I'm not a fan of it by any means. I think they should have made internal SD2 and let the actual SD card be sdcard. Titanium saves everything to the internal memory now because of its name, which is stupid. And I don't see anywhere to change the directory Ti saves to, just the folder name. So anytime I do a backup, I have to copy the folder from internal memory to the SD card. I'm not sure what else is performing the same actions, hopefully not everything else.
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Ok so how do I save to my sd card not the internal mem
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rambo8987 said:
Ok so how do I save to my sd card not the internal mem
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Only think I have been able to figure is everything is saved to the internal sd and you have to manually move it to the extra sd.
Imagine all the people that arent tech savy. They are going to fill up the internal and think they have no more room.
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I'm not a fan of it by any means. I think they should have made internal SD2 and let the actual SD card be sdcard. Titanium saves everything to the internal memory now because of its name, which is stupid. And I don't see anywhere to change the directory Ti saves to, just the folder name. So anytime I do a backup, I have to copy the folder from internal memory to the SD card. I'm not sure what else is performing the same actions, hopefully not everything else.
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1st, make sure that whatever from Titanium that is on /sdcard is moved over to /sdcard2 then in Titanium:
Press Menu button, scroll down to Backup Folder Location and press that. Press "DETECT!" and then press "WHOLE DEVICE" It should locate the spot on /sdcard2. After choosing that, press "Use the current folder" and you should no longer have to manually move stuff from internal to external.
What I have yet to try on this phone is to move my apps and pictures to the internal "sdcard" then use a program like "MyBackup Pro" to run scheduled App, Photo, and Data backups to the External card (I don't believe Titanium will backup your photos which is why I say use that). That would mean that not only would my apps, pics and data be stored in its own partition internally, but I would have a true redundant backup location in case my phone craps the bed.
I'm running 3.7.5 and don't see any option for Detect, all I can do is change the name.
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I'm not a fan of it by any means. I think they should have made internal SD2 and let the actual SD card be sdcard. Titanium saves everything to the internal memory now because of its name, which is stupid. And I don't see anywhere to change the directory Ti saves to, just the folder name. So anytime I do a backup, I have to copy the folder from internal memory to the SD card. I'm not sure what else is performing the same actions, hopefully not everything else.
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You can change the Titanium backup directory (you'll have to do it during temporary root). I did and pointed it back to where my backup files were on the SD card that had been in my Incredible. It's possible it's only available with the paid Titanium version (but that is an app I didn't mind paying for).
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I installed the Titanium Backup Pro and it works fine. But the folder created for the backus is located in the main memory instead of SD memory where it should be. Anobody has the same issue? How to make it to locate the folder in SD?
by default it is located on /sdcard/titaniumbackup or /mnt/sdcard/titaniumbackup (thats the real path)
this is the internal SD and not 'main memory' it doesnt go away if you flash back to stock. if you want it to go to an EXTERNAL sd card you need to change the option in titanium backup to point to
/mnt/sdcard-ext/titaniumbackup
why do you think it 'should' be in a location that not everyone has?
The folder appears in "Internal phone storage" and not in "SD card". What do you mean external SD?
And how can I change the path?
To change the path, click menu> preferences> backup folder name and put /mnt/sdcard-ext/TitaniumBackup
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The folder appears in "Internal phone storage" and not in "SD card". What do you mean external SD?
And how can I change the path?
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internal phone storage is the 10gb of usable space for you. do you have an external SD card? as in, a microSD that you inserted in the microSD card slot? if you dont have a microSD, where do you think you are going to move those backups to?
just sit back and put a little logic into what you want
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internal phone storage is the 10gb of usable space for you. do you have an external SD card? as in, a microSD that you inserted in the microSD card slot? if you dont have a microSD, where do you think you are going to move those backups to?
just sit back and put a little logic into what you want
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Of course I have a micro SD card (32 GB) inserted in my phone. That's why I'm asking this. To me it's more logic to think in that SD card, when TB says it will save the backups in the SD, than in an internal partition in the main memory, named SD, as it seems to be. But I want to have this clear.
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Of course I have a micro SD card (32 GB) inserted in my phone. That's why I'm asking this. To me it's more logic to think in that SD card, when TB says it will save the backups in the SD, than in an internal partition in the main memory, named SD, as it seems to be. But I want to have this clear.
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Dont think you quite understand...
In most other android phones the sd card path is /mnt/sdcard/. However in the Atrix this same path is used as our internal memory while our (actual) sd card path is /mnt/sdcard-ext/
Titanium Backup caters to the majority by default but this is easily fixed if you just change the path as stated above.
Charsher47 said:
Dont think you quite understand...
In most other android phones the sd card path is /mnt/sdcard/. However in the Atrix this same path is used as our internal memory while our (actual) sd card path is /mnt/sdcard-ext/
Titanium Backup caters to the majority by default but this is easily fixed if you just change the path as stated above.
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Thanks. It worked fine.
Sorry to "Necro-Post", but how exactly do I change the path to my external card? I have Titanium Backup Pro, and cannot find a way to edit the path in the settings dialog...
y0himba said:
Sorry to "Necro-Post", but how exactly do I change the path to my external card? I have Titanium Backup Pro, and cannot find a way to edit the path in the settings dialog...
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Create your backup folder on your external SDCard 1st using root explorer, or some other file manipulation app.
Open TiBu > Menu > Preferences > Backup Folder Location > Use the back key on your Atrix to move up folders until you can select sdcard-ext > select sdcard-ext > select the backup folder you created earlier > press Use Current Folder > select OK > done.
Using the back key to move up a folder is what gets most people.
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Create your backup folder on your external SDCard 1st using root explorer, or some other file manipulation app.
Open TiBu > Menu > Preferences > Backup Folder Location > Use the back key on your Atrix to move up folders until you can select sdcard-ext > select sdcard-ext > select the backup folder you created earlier > press Use Current Folder > select OK > done.
Using the back key to move up a folder is what gets most people.
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Huh. I must be living under a rock. Has this changed very recently? I know you use to have to manually enter the name of the folder... Thanks for the heads up!
I tried creating a folder manually and pointing TiBU to it.. It asked me if I wanted to move my backup files there and I said yes. It then said '0 of 512 moved successfully'. haha, big surprise since my backup folder is 2gb.. So I just moved the TitaniumBackup folder from sd to sdext, and pointed TiBU to it. Verified backups and all is well.
So I've done some searching and apparently on SGS2, the Move To SD option in Manage Applications *should* move apps to your external SD in the .androidsecure directory.
However, it doesn't seem to do that for me, it moves it to the .androidsecure directory of my INTERNAL sd.
I'm running MIUI, with Void.echo kernel.
In App 2 SD, it notes at the bottom "External storage status: shared"
barrist said:
So I've done some searching and apparently on SGS2, the Move To SD option in Manage Applications *should* move apps to your external SD in the .androidsecure directory.
However, it doesn't seem to do that for me, it moves it to the .androidsecure directory of my INTERNAL sd.
I'm running MIUI, with Void.echo kernel.
In App 2 SD, it notes at the bottom "External storage status: shared"
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Maybe u have luck and u got an answer but I think u will got an better and faster answer in MIUI thread
It can be that it is a change or fold from it, so that maybe only MIUI users can help u.
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barrist said:
However, it doesn't seem to do that for me, it moves it to the .androidsecure directory of my INTERNAL sd.
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That's how it always worked. Im sure there's an app in the market that will move it to an external sdcard.
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That's how it always worked. Im sure there's an app in the market that will move it to an external sdcard.
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I agree with OP there's something weird about how the move to sd works. In reality it moves the app to internal SD, however it also put some info on those apps in the .android_secure folder in your external SD. And if you remove the external SD those app stop working, even though they reside in the internal SD and shouldn't be affected by removal of external SD.
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I agree with OP there's something weird about how the move to sd works. In reality it moves the app to internal SD, however it also put some info on those apps in the .android_secure folder in your external SD. And if you remove the external SD those app stop working, even though they reside in the internal SD and shouldn't be affected by removal of external SD.
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Actually my "Move to SD" doesn't even create the .android_secure folder on external SD. It creates it on the internal SD.
It should create it on the external SD, where you can see the files when mounted on your PC. (they are hidden when you try to find them from within your phone).
So I think in your case, the apps ARE being moved to the external SD just in a weird way (that's why they don't work when you remove the card).
In my case, it's not functioning that way at all; nothing is being moved to the external sd.
I used the instructions from iJimaniac to swap my storage from internal to external (love the mass storage now!) however all my apps that I originally had moved to the SD card have suddenly disappeared and now i have to remember and re-install them. I made a copy of everything under /mnt/sdcard and moved it to my external SD card before making the switch so that everything would still be linked ok. Any ideas on what went wrong? Note: i took everything on my external SD card and put it in a separate folder on my external SD card so I wouldn't lose any of that.
Well, I used a PC to copy .android_secure folder from the real external_SD to the new "fake" external_SD. If that doesn't work, I would copy back the original vold.fstab then move all apps to internal, then use modified vold.fstab and move your apps back to sd if you want. Remember to reboot after making a change. Several reboots might even be needed for all apps to show up (might want to try that before anything). Hope this helps!
Ok well the problem is apparently that the .android_secure folder on the sd card is empty. Strangely it also has no permissions and refuses to let me change it. Whenever i try to replace it with the full .android_secure folder it gives me a black screen and i have to restart. Any idea what might be wrong?
Well, it might not actually be empty, it looks empty when viewed with an android file browser, but when you look at it on a computer (might need to disable "hide protected system files" in windows folder options) you should see stuff in it. So, you need to copy the .android_secure folder FROM your REAL microSD card TO your REAL internal memory using a pc, not an android file browser. To be clear, I have figured out that android transfers the app to your sd card when you select "move to usb storage", so that can be deceiving. Your apps were on the sd card, but now you need to transfer them to your usb storage by moving the .android_secure folder. Hope you figure it out!
Ah something decided to start working again and all my apps came back! Thanks for your help!
No problem! What was probably wrong was your player was rebuilding the dalvik-cache. It sometimes takes a while I find. Glad you got it working.
I went into root explorer.
I went into /mnt/
And I noticed there's two options....
/Extsdcard and /sdcard
Seems like all my downloads, music, and everything is getting saved to /sdcard
What does this mean?
P.s. I have a 64gb micro sdcard card.
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your extsdcard is your external one in your phone you can remove. i would recomend saving most your files like your music and such to that. sdcard is your internal memory of your phone. you have less space there and should save it for more important things. hope that helped
It means everything is being saved to your Internal Storage. I haven't quite figured out how to default everything to the ExtSdcard yet. I know the camera can. The phone will read everything from the ExtSdcard fine though, such as music and other files.
The ext sd card can be used for the camera/video, CWM backups, music files you copy from your computer, and you can move most any files there that you download.
The internal sd card will be used for all of your apps, there's no way to 'move to sd card', you just have the full 16/32gb internal sd for all of it. Since you will always be forced to use the internal sd card for all app needs, I just try to keep everything on my ext sd card I can (my cwm backups are 1.7gb!). Not that it really matters for me though, I downloaded every app I ever use and a few games and only hit 1.2gb used on my internal sd card.
You can also go to th advanced tab within the stock browser and select memory card for default storage. I am guessing that is ext SD as the other option is "Phone".
Thanks for the information!
This was quite confusing at first. Time to start moving files
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permanent fix for this?
My issue is that everything defaults to the /sdcard (internal partition - i'm calling it that for ease of terminology) and some apps just don't give you another option of where to save the media to (or don't let you browse over to the right thing). as it stands, the phone seems to be mounting that internal /sdcard partition as if it were external media, ie in android's default location for external media. thus, apps are looking ofr the REAL SD card and think they've found it but they haven't.
the reason this is a problem for me is 1. i have to change this in every app that allows me to, and 2. CWM sends backups to the internal one automatically and i can't change it and have to manually move the backup images to my external.
the reason i'm going into all of this is i'd like to find a way to entirely get rid of the /sdcard folder representing the internal memory and have the external card take its place. I'd like the rest of my 29ish GB of internal storage to be part of the system partition - where apps go, etc. it's not that i want to use that space, it's that i want to "move to SD" to the right SD. i just don't want the apps and system to treat ANY internal space as if it were external or mounted or anything of the sort.
my last phone, Atrix 2, had like 2-4gb internal. I'm just suggesting stretching that amount all the way to 32gbs and using the SD card as an SD card.
the question, basically, is whether there is any way to make this happen? i came across a thread (google "sd card mount point modification" as i can't post external links yet) elsewhere that discusses doing this with a VTAB and was wondering if this is something that is addressing my (our?) issue, whether it's a recommended solution, and whether it would work on the S3. i'm fine following technical instructions but I have very limited knowledge of the way addressing etc. works on Android and this filesystem. any help (or a redirect to a thread where this is more appropriate to ask) would be greatly appreciated.
Does this issue persist with custom roms? Is it an Ics bug that won't let you install apps to extsdcard or a Samsung intentional crap? I know one other android phones I had I could save apps to sd card no issues.
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Does this issue persist with custom roms? Is it an Ics bug that won't let you install apps to extsdcard or a Samsung intentional crap? I know one other android phones I had I could save apps to sd card no issues.
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haven't tried any, waiting for something where key things like camera, LTE, etc all work. It's not that I can't install to extSD, it's that the default is "sdcard" (ie the internal space allocated). it's really a function of the way the system/phone allocates that extra internal space - rather than calling it "internal storage/system storage", they are calling it the "primary sd card" and the actual sd card is being called "2nd sd card". it's this treatment of the spaces by the system that i'm unhappy about, i guess.
that's a good point though, and i am hoping that a custom ROM will do this differently. will update when i find one i like
EDIT: gonna do the Task & Ktoonsez AKOP Rom this weekend, should know how the spaces are treated. again, will update.
This is probably a dumb question, but I am confused a little about the SD card situation. I have a Verizon S3. I see the phone comes with 16gb of storage that is in the folder SD Card, and that when I put my own SD card into the phone that I can find it under the mnt folder in the root directory. My question, is the SD memory that came with the phone built in, like a virtual SD card, or is that a card that is removeable? If it is not removeable, how do I setup my phone to make my personal SD card the one is being shown when I go to /SD Card/? I have a class 10 and prefer to have easy removable access to my default SD card, and having it under mnt/extsdcard is a bit annoying.
The sdcard is internal storage. All your apps etc will be saved there. If go to /mnt/extsdxard that's your memory card. Apps can no longer be downloaded to your extsd. Your camera has an option to make pics taken save to your sdcard. You'll find the pics in /extsdxard/dcim/camera
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The sdcard is internal storage. All your apps etc will be saved there. If go to /mnt/extsdxard that's your memory card. Apps can no longer be downloaded to your extsd. Your camera has an option to make pics taken save to your sdcard. You'll find the pics in /extsdxard/dcim/camera
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Ok so then I guess my best solution is for anything I want to know I can access with my personal SD card is to just redirect things to it. I don't put installed apps on SD but figured a lot of things are better on a removeable card incase my phone breaks or bricks and I want access to those files. I can just configure apps that allow me to choose where to save things to save them on my external card if I think I want that. Thanks for the info.