HTC amaze far superior to SGS2

HTC amaze far superior to SGS2 - HTC Amaze 4G

I used the nexus one for two years EXTREMELY HAPPY. until I dropped and broke it. So I went to buy a phone and I was initially going to buy the amaze, but for some reason my brother, the strore owner and my mom all loved samsung so I said fine. I HATE THIS PHONE.
i've had the sgs2 for about two days and can tell you from all the research i've done and shots i've taken. my moms my touch 4g takes better pictures. my nexus pictures comes out almost the same clarity sometimes even better. I did some research, and this is what I did not know, If you guys knew anything about camera's the HTC amaze comes with a backside illuminated sensor only one other phone has that and that's the iphone 4s. the aperture on the htc amaze is also f/2.2 compared to sgs2 which is around f/2.7 and better than the iphone 4s which is f/2.4. the lower the aperture the more light the camera lets in and thus better picture quality comes out.
As far as the phone itself goes I hate the SGs2, not because its a bad phone....samsung is just retarted with all that real estate I can only see like 6 contacts on a screen at a time and in many screen everything is blow up and cannot be changed unless you changed the density of the phone after rooting, which messes with the programs and doesn't show them correctly and the phone itself. but when I did this, the contact screen and the settings screens looked amazing, they showed, the dialer was about 1/4 of the screen and the rest was black (this is what I mean about messing things up changing pixel density) with the superamoled plus I have changed the densit of my phone to 160 from the original 240 and EVERYTHING looks VERY crisp BECUAUSE OF THE EXTRA SUBPIXELS...everything on the SGs2 looks TOO BIG stock...its like a kids toy, that screen can hold 25 icons easily instead of the regular 16 or whatever (as I use launcherpro to cram the icons) even the notification bar is too big...sure it has a big screen but if you have a smaller phone that gives you the same effect (5 or 5 contacts in one screen etc. and same amound of icons like my old nexus one) I'd take the smaller phone over the sg2 that does not use the big screen efficiently AT ALL so i don't have to lug a big thing around...some programs like the web browser and messaging you can decrease font size and it is still perfectly clear and crisp due to the extra subpixels even though its a 480 by 800 phone, I don't understand why samsung didn't make this an option for the entire phone. there's nothing superior in the galaxy S 2 over the HTC amaze, besides having better color on the screen than a qhd lcd (which some say is better) and being lighter....touchwiz 4.0 has nothing over sense either... even the lockscreen is crap on touchwiz, I had to buy widgetlocker pro to use instead of the regular one. the build quality of HTC amaze is sturdy and nice, yes a little heavier than sgs2 which uses all plastic...I plan on getting a case for either one so I don't care if its made of plastic or metal, if you're going to argue the dropping the phone is better with plastic.
The amaze also packs like 4 microphones while the sgs 2 has 2. the sgs2 speakphone is very muffled and crappy, where the htc amazes is extremely clear.
I am so pissed with such a nice screen on this phone samsung could have lowered the density and given us much more for the real estate instead they were just lazy and kept the same old thing. It like me having a 50 inch monitor that is can show crisp at lower resolutions but I limit the system to having a lower density or resolution. Maybe some people like the BIG OLD spaced out icons and contact list, but I'm not a 90 year old person who needs a big icons and fonts like that.
as far as the galaxy nexus goes I have not seen one yet, but samsung again cheped out on the camera and the processor. it has a 720p pentil amoled, which is yet to be determined if it will prove to overcome the pentile downfall.
also the amaze has a dedicated camera and camcorder button.
I hope as they update to ICS they can change the density of this screen, then I might think about keeping the phone...otherwize I'm going to HTC amaze or something better that comes out by then.
I don't hate samsung, infact I love samsung TV's better than all TV's and have a galaxy tab 10.1 which is running stock honeycomb and will never upgrade to touchwiz. Samsung shines in screen quality thats all they know how to do. ( The camera department and software department of samsung is lacking, as well as some hardware. now If they can only get the software department to use the very nice screen the way it was supposed to be used...if you count the subpixels on the sgs2 and the htc amaze. They both come out almost equal. with and edge actually on the sgs2. learn how to use your screens samsung!!!!
Thanks for listening to my rant.

Tbh im to lazy to read it all XD
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Tbh im to lazy to read it all XD
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He definitely wrote an essay.
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So you write this to convince yourself to get the amaze. as much as opinions go, you state the camera is better and screen real estate could be better as well as pixel density. It's pretty clear this phone is not for you. If you're within buyers remorse why not just return it if you feel this opinionated and unhappy with it?
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seansk said:
I used the nexus one for two years EXTREMELY HAPPY. until I dropped and broke it. So I went to buy a phone and I was initially going to buy the amaze, but for some reason my brother, the strore owner and my mom all loved samsung so I said fine. I HATE THIS PHONE.
i've had the sgs2 for about two days and can tell you from all the research i've done and shots i've taken. my moms my touch 4g takes better pictures. my nexus pictures comes out almost the same clarity sometimes even better. I did some research, and this is what I did not know, If you guys knew anything about camera's the HTC amaze comes with a backside illuminated sensor only one other phone has that and that's the iphone 4s. the aperture on the htc amaze is also f/2.2 compared to sgs2 which is around f/2.7 and better than the iphone 4s which is f/2.4. the lower the aperture the more light the camera lets in and thus better picture quality comes out.
As far as the phone itself goes I hate the SGs2, not because its a bad phone....samsung is just retarted with all that real estate I can only see like 6 contacts on a screen at a time and in many screen everything is blow up and cannot be changed unless you changed the density of the phone after rooting, which messes with the programs and doesn't show them correctly and the phone itself. but when I did this, the contact screen and the settings screens looked amazing, they showed, the dialer was about 1/4 of the screen and the rest was black (this is what I mean about messing things up changing pixel density) with the superamoled plus I have changed the densit of my phone to 160 from the original 240 and EVERYTHING looks VERY crisp BECUAUSE OF THE EXTRA SUBPIXELS...everything on the SGs2 looks TOO BIG stock...its like a kids toy, that screen can hold 25 icons easily instead of the regular 16 or whatever (as I use launcherpro to cram the icons) even the notification bar is too big...sure it has a big screen but if you have a smaller phone that gives you the same effect (5 or 5 contacts in one screen etc. and same amound of icons like my old nexus one) I'd take the smaller phone over the sg2 that does not use the big screen efficiently AT ALL so i don't have to lug a big thing around...some programs like the web browser and messaging you can decrease font size and it is still perfectly clear and crisp due to the extra subpixels even though its a 480 by 800 phone, I don't understand why samsung didn't make this an option for the entire phone. there's nothing superior in the galaxy S 2 over the HTC amaze, besides having better color on the screen than a qhd lcd (which some say is better) and being lighter....touchwiz 4.0 has nothing over sense either... even the lockscreen is crap on touchwiz, I had to buy widgetlocker pro to use instead of the regular one. the build quality of HTC amaze is sturdy and nice, yes a little heavier than sgs2 which uses all plastic...I plan on getting a case for either one so I don't care if its made of plastic or metal, if you're going to argue the dropping the phone is better with plastic.
The amaze also packs like 4 microphones while the sgs 2 has 2. the sgs2 speakphone is very muffled and crappy, where the htc amazes is extremely clear.
I am so pissed with such a nice screen on this phone samsung could have lowered the density and given us much more for the real estate instead they were just lazy and kept the same old thing. It like me having a 50 inch monitor that is can show crisp at lower resolutions but I limit the system to having a lower density or resolution. Maybe some people like the BIG OLD spaced out icons and contact list, but I'm not a 90 year old person who needs a big icons and fonts like that.
as far as the galaxy nexus goes I have not seen one yet, but samsung again cheped out on the camera and the processor. it has a 720p pentil amoled, which is yet to be determined if it will prove to overcome the pentile downfall.
also the amaze has a dedicated camera and camcorder button.
I hope as they update to ICS they can change the density of this screen, then I might think about keeping the phone...otherwize I'm going to HTC amaze or something better that comes out by then.
I don't hate samsung, infact I love samsung TV's better than all TV's and have a galaxy tab 10.1 which is running stock honeycomb and will never upgrade to touchwiz. Samsung shines in screen quality thats all they know how to do. ( The camera department and software department of samsung is lacking, as well as some hardware. now If they can only get the software department to use the very nice screen the way it was supposed to be used...if you count the subpixels on the sgs2 and the htc amaze. They both come out almost equal. with and edge actually on the sgs2. learn how to use your screens samsung!!!!
Thanks for listening to my rant.
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Lololololololololol!!!!!!!!!
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I actually read it all 0_0
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So you write this to convince yourself to get the amaze. as much as opinions go, you state the camera is better and screen real estate could be better as well as pixel density. It's pretty clear this phone is not for you. If you're within buyers remorse why not just return it if you feel this opinionated and unhappy with it?
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I have so much to say in response to the OP, but I don't want to sound like an ass. I really don't see the point of this post. This long, boring essay would of definitely been suited well in the Amaze section.
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Didn't you just get it? Take it back and get the amaze. Bet after a week you'll wish you hadn't. Good luck
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Or he'll notice the horrible screen bleed from the soft keys and reconsider.
mikeyinid said:
Didn't you just get it? Take it back and get the amaze. Bet after a week you'll wish you hadn't. Good luck
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mikeyinid said:
Didn't you just get it? Take it back and get the amaze. Bet after a week you'll wish you hadn't. Good luck
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This phone has issues too but I think they are much more tolerable than overheating, battery and signal issues. The Amaze has issues that most likely will never be fixed with software.
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Don't forget the lack of Dev in amaze forum
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Just go get a POS Amaze and be happy then.. Hahah
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I bought the Amaze and the GS2. I prefer the GS2 over the Amaze still.

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I am going to return just hate the restocking fee. I just want to hear from people who have had both and went for the sgs2 and why?I'm going to be paying full price around 600 and keep it for a while just want to now some good evidence why sgs2 is better?

Meh... enjoy being able to fry an egg on your HTC phone & having to carry a charger with you everywhere you go.
This reminds me of waaaaay back in early 05 when I was devving for the Sidekick II. The Treo 650 had just been announced and I was sick of having to hack the hell out of my SKII just to get ringtones on it, so I was gung-ho to get a T650. I went to the Danger forums & posted a long rant just like this about how much I hated the SKII & how I was gonna get the T650 as soon as I got paid. Lets just say that we've been MUCH nicer to the OP here than the Sidekick crew was to me xD Their general (and cleaned up) response was "don't let the door hit you in the ass, *****". Granted, I WAS happier with the Treo, but yeah... bashing a device IN that device's home forum- not the best idea! lol...

I hate HTC phones...I'M on a pos evo .4g right now because i sold my galaxy s vibrant for sgs 2....I love samsung phones and super amoled...Cya and dont let the door hit ya on the way Out!
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I can argue everything you just said. But seriously I'm too lazy.
Lets just say.. YOULL COME BACK
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I'm sick of HTC. I've had the N1, MT4G, and the Sensation ALL with some type of dust under the screen problem with the sensation being the worst (which is why I got rid of it as soon as I noticed and picked up the SGS2 and am damn happy about it). I did love those phones, especially the beloved N1, but I can't stand seeing that dust when the screen was off or if I used a dark wallpaper. The only thing I do miss is the qHD and CM7, but the SAMOLED makes up for the screen and cyanogen himself said CM is being worked on already for the 989, so I'm pretty stoked for that too.

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For whoever cares, my thoughts on the pentile screen

After everyone saying that it's soooo different and no one can tell its even Pentile, I thought I would love this phone, especially with it's thinness!
Went to verizon today to check it out (they had one on display). Still obviously pentile. Granted, a LITTLE better than the bionic, but it's still no where as close to as crisp as ANY phone that doesnt sport the Pentile matrix, like the thunderbolt, iphone, even blackberry Torch.
I don't know about you all, but I CAN'T STAND IT. It's so ugly to me to have jagged looking edges and lines through you're screen. My old Blackberry Storm 1 did better than this.
I'm really hoping the pentile on the Galaxy Nexus is better than this, or else I'm just still going to be wishing I had something like the galaxy SII

Hey, thanks for your opinion, I am interested in what people who have actually seen the thing in person have to say. The stores near me dont have it on display yet so I appreciate the info!!

If u like this phone just buy it, forget abt the screen and battery, just buy and enjoy.

It'll be the same thing probably on the Nexus. It really isn't that big of a deal so don't worry about it.

Yeah it really isn't THAT big of a deal but I just don't understand what's so hard about using a little bit better of a screen. I think the nexus will at least make up for the screen with ics and the on screen buttons and NFC. Though much thicker :/. I can't wait to really feel how light this razr is once its out of the display clunky holder thing.
It felt reallllyyyy light even with that thing on there and the thinness is incredible. I sold my bionic a few weeks ago and I have been using a 4s, and I'm getting so sick of not having my 4g. This razr will be a nice change, though the screen definitely looks subpar. I just wish there was a phone on Verizon that I could show to apple fanboys and them not say that their retina display looks better. Because, fact of the matter is, it does look much better(the retina display).
It's almost sad to me that Motorola and Samsung and such brag about their screens being 720p and such when their pixel densities are still less than the retina display, and the pentile is still obvious(assuming the nexus is still the same).
I don't know, I'm just ranting.
The razr did feel very quick however, and the camera app worked VERY WELL. The shutter lag was very low! Much faster than the bionic and it reminded me of a galaxy nexus video displaying the no shutter lag. Though the pictures weren't what I was used to with the 4s, they still turned out pretty nice looking.

guitarevan07 said:
Yeah it really isn't THAT big of a deal but I just don't understand what's so hard about using a little bit better of a screen. I think the nexus will at least make up for the screen with ics and the on screen buttons and NFC. Though much thicker :/. I can't wait to really feel how light this razr is once its out of the display clunky holder thing.
It felt reallllyyyy light even with that thing on there and the thinness is incredible. I sold my bionic a few weeks ago and I have been using a 4s, and I'm getting so sick of not having my 4g. This razr will be a nice change, though the screen definitely looks subpar. I just wish there was a phone on Verizon that I could show to apple fanboys and them not say that their retina display looks better. Because, fact of the matter is, it does look much better(the retina display).
It's almost sad to me that Motorola and Samsung and such brag about their screens being 720p and such when their pixel densities are still less than the retina display, and the pentile is still obvious(assuming the nexus is still the same).
I don't know, I'm just ranting.
The razr did feel very quick however, and the camera app worked VERY WELL. The shutter lag was very low! Much faster than the bionic and it reminded me of a galaxy nexus video displaying the no shutter lag. Though the pictures weren't what I was used to with the 4s, they still turned out pretty nice looking.
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I know what you can show them! Show them the iphone 5 while they still have the 4s! Jk jk. On a serious note think about the screen sizes, 3.7 vs 4.3 and 4.65, they don't even compare. Yes it looks sharp and such, wait till they do a 4 + inch screen, and then if they can keep the same pixel density more power to them. But seriously I've been through 5 phones this year on Verizon alone: 1.) Thunderbolt 2.) Droid Charge 3.) Droid x2 4.) Droid 3 5.) Droid Bionic . To be honest the X2 screen was the worse out of them all, that phone was just utter garbage. The Droid 3 and Bionic screens although pentile, were still acceptable for day to day use and netflix. Seriously if I want breathtaking visuals I'll go home and watch something on my dual 30 inch setup.
Were you disgusted with the display on your Bionic? If you can't stomach the pentile display... There's always the HTC Rezound that you could go for. I will personally wait for the RAZR to come to my anxiously awaiting hands via fedex 11/11 by 10 am gg priority shipping. If the screen is that terrible but I like the speed/feel of the phone I'll probably stick with it. To me high quality build is a HUGE factor, I can't stand HTC/Samsung's cheap plastic build. In the end it's your own personal preferences, I'm not bothered at all by the sub pentile matrix.

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I know what you can show them! Show them the iphone 5 while they still have the 4s! Jk jk. On a serious note think about the screen sizes, 3.7 vs 4.3 and 4.65, they don't even compare. Yes it looks sharp and such, wait till they do a 4 + inch screen, and then if they can keep the same pixel density more power to them. But seriously I've been through 5 phones this year on Verizon alone: 1.) Thunderbolt 2.) Droid Charge 3.) Droid x2 4.) Droid 3 5.) Droid Bionic . To be honest the X2 screen was the worse out of them all, that phone was just utter garbage. The Droid 3 and Bionic screens although pentile, were still acceptable for day to day use and netflix. Seriously if I want breathtaking visuals I'll go home and watch something on my dual 30 inch setup.
Were you disgusted with the display on your Bionic? If you can't stomach the pentile display... There's always the HTC Rezound that you could go for. I will personally wait for the RAZR to come to my anxiously awaiting hands via fedex 11/11 by 10 am gg priority shipping. If the screen is that terrible but I like the speed/feel of the phone I'll probably stick with it. To me high quality build is a HUGE factor, I can't stand HTC/Samsung's cheap plastic build. In the end it's your own personal preferences, I'm not bothered at all by the sub pentile matrix.
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OK ... this post is going to sound antagonistic but it REALLY isnt meant that way ....
are we putting too much emphasis on this Pentile issue ? I mean most of us are upgrading from phones that are a year or two old (in my case an original HTC Desire).
I assume (correct me if im wrong) that the RAZR screen (and the Nexus screen and Rezound screen - not coming to the UK) will blow my Desire screen out of the water !?
Seriously ... I have very good vision but am I genuinely going to spot Pentile without going right up to the screen and looking for it.
I think my Desire is Pentile isnt it ? and ive never considered that blocky or seen any halo effect and thats a much lower resolution !?!
Please dont take offence if you really do notice the difference but im just trying to get some perspective into this discussion .....

wilbur-force said:
OK ... this post is going to sound antagonistic but it REALLY isnt meant that way ....
are we putting too much emphasis on this Pentile issue ? I mean most of us are upgrading from phones that are a year or two old (in my case an original HTC Desire).
I assume (correct me if im wrong) that the RAZR screen (and the Nexus screen and Rezound screen - not coming to the UK) will blow my Desire screen out of the water !?
Seriously ... I have very good vision but am I genuinely going to spot Pentile without going right up to the screen and looking for it.
I think my Desire is Pentile isnt it ? and ive never considered that blocky or seen any halo effect and thats a much lower resolution !?!
Please dont take offence if you really do notice the difference but im just trying to get some perspective into this discussion .....
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No offense taken at all! I am very attention to detail, and yes you can notice the pixelation to some level (more so on the droid x2 (the most) droid 3 bionic not enough to bother me). I can't personally say anything about the RAZR, but looking at the color saturation looks nice. To be honest I really don't care if it is pixelated even slightly. The OP is the one making the fit about the PenTile display. I don't agree with him, but he is entitled to his opinion, and I will respect that. In the end it's all about personal preference, I for one am okay with the PenTile technology. The main gripe I'd say besides the blocky/jagged text would be the discoloration, but the AMOLED on the RAZR seems to take care of that.
Edit: Derp iPhone screen 3.5 D:.

zetsumeikuro said:
No offense taken at all! I am very attention to detail, and yes you can notice the pixelation to some level (more so on the droid x2 (the most) droid 3 bionic not enough to bother me). I can't personally say anything about the RAZR, but looking at the color saturation looks nice. To be honest I really don't care if it is pixelated even slightly. The OP is the one making the fit about the PenTile display. I don't agree with him, but he is entitled to his opinion, and I will respect that. In the end it's all about personal preference, I for one am okay with the PenTile technology. The main gripe I'd say besides the blocky/jagged text would be the discoloration, but the AMOLED on the RAZR seems to take care of that.
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sorry .... i probably 'quoted' the wrong post
just trying to suggest that this is probably going to be a better display than what most of us 'currently' have and probably in the top 5 (?) displays out on the market (or due out imminently) ???
or am i wrong .... ?

construction ALONE is a good enough reason to get this.
The cheap 4$ plastic of the Sasmsungs doesn't justify even a 1080p display, it just looks and feels like 98' cheap gameboy.... Not to mention the SGS screen is one of the worst in the industry today with absolutely NO WHITES and a green hue all over the place.. It's just a very bad engineered screen to fit Samsung's cheap phone.

Fif23 said:
construction ALONE is a good enough reason to get this.
The cheap 4$ plastic of the Sasmsungs doesn't justify even a 1080p display, it just looks and feels like 98' cheap gameboy.... Not to mention the SGS screen is one of the worst in the industry today with absolutely NO WHITES and a green hue all over the place.. It's just a very bad engineered screen to fit Samsung's cheap phone.
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True ... construction is a biggy for me. i run a junior football squad (soccer for our American friends) and my phone is often used in the wind and rain around mud etc.
My Desire has stood up pretty well but (in my opinion) the Desire has been the last of the 'sturdy' HTC builds .... to be honest I really fancy a change from HTC too. Will I miss sense ? possibly, however my current 'build' is a Senseless ROM anyway.
I like the look of the RAZR, and need an SD slot (or at least 32gb - which seems to rule out the UK Nexus). Wavering, but the RAZR is still front runner ....

wilbur-force said:
sorry .... i probably 'quoted' the wrong post
just trying to suggest that this is probably going to be a better display than what most of us 'currently' have and probably in the top 5 (?) displays out on the market (or due out imminently) ???
or am i wrong .... ?
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Yes it will be one of the "better' displays on the market for sure. Regardless of it having a PenTile matrix, it still has good color saturation and unmatched visibility outdoors. I will have my RAZR in another 2-3 days or so, and I will report back here with how the screen is.

I was disgusted by the screen because I wanted it to be leaps and bounds better than the bionic screen, and it wasn't. It was just slightly better.
You all will love you're phones I'm sure, I'm just a snob about the pentiles. For some reason I can't stand it. Especially after looking at the gsII screens. bleh.

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I was disgusted by the screen because I wanted it to be leaps and bounds better than the bionic screen, and it wasn't. It was just slightly better.
You all will love you're phones I'm sure, I'm just a snob about the pentiles. For some reason I can't stand it. Especially after looking at the gsII screens. bleh.
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Me too. But after playing with one for about 10 min the screen on the razr looks beautiful to me. And with the bionic right next to it, I see a huge difference. Thats just me though.

Sir, if you think the SGS-II screen is a better screen, then your statement regarding the Razr screen kinda loses some of it's validity because scientifically, the SGS-II screen is showing you FAKE colors, the white is really really dark, under ANY brightness setting, and the rest of the picture is GREEN in such high levels that it's an insult to any good set of eyes.
In the comparison pictures I have seen, the RAZR's panel, although similar, has MUCH better whites and less of a green hue.
If you meant that you liked the SMOOTHNESS of the SGS screen, in term of pixel arrangement, then maybe ! I'll see when I get one.
The way I see it, the IPHONE has the most advanced, natural display on the market today... Nothing comes close really.
BUT the overall package of the RAZR is what's appealing.

thank you for your thoughts.

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Sir, if you think the SGS-II screen is a better screen, then your statement regarding the Razr screen kinda loses some of it's validity because scientifically, the SGS-II screen is showing you FAKE colors, the white is really really dark, under ANY brightness setting, and the rest of the picture is GREEN in such high levels that it's an insult to any good set of eyes.
In the comparison pictures I have seen, the RAZR's panel, although similar, has MUCH better whites and less of a green hue.
If you meant that you liked the SMOOTHNESS of the SGS screen, in term of pixel arrangement, then maybe ! I'll see when I get one.
The way I see it, the IPHONE has the most advanced, natural display on the market today... Nothing comes close really.
BUT the overall package of the RAZR is what's appealing.
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I would MUCH rather have th SGSII screen than the Razr's. Like I said, the pentile is just horrible in my opinion. Maybe you're right about the greens and all. I'm just saying first impressions, when I picked up the phone, the pentile was noticeable. Make me look back at my iphone and be like, wtf is this?

This is what Gizmodo's review says about the screen:
"We ragged on the Bionic's screen pretty hard. The RAZR's is a lot better. It's not perfect, but it's better. The new Droid's screen is Super AMOLED Advanced. What does the "Advanced" mean? Seriously, nobody has any idea, which means it's probably just marketing speak. "Advanced" aside, its Super AMOLEDness delivers deep blacks and vivid, accurate colors. There's still some pixilation, though. In fact, it's almost as severe as the Bionic's, but with the increased saturation and straight-up deliciousness, it doesn't draw your attention quite as much. It's certainly not as sharp as the 720p display on the HTC Rezound or the iPhone 4S' Retina, but it certainly won't make your eyes bleed."
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2011/11/mobile-monday-motorola-razr-review/

I gotta say I really don't care whether it is pentile or RGB, I just want to be able to view sites in desktop mode without having to zoom in, (sites like engadget), and still be able to CLEARLY read text beyond the like headlines. At this point, I have yet to see a pentile screen where I can do this...
I was disappointed when I got a Nexus S because I couldn't view pages as well as I used to on my much older Motorola Milestone (Droid 1). And the Atrix, even with its qHD display appeared to be a step backwards from the Milestone. This is one of the things I like to do to test out a new phone, and I have a feeling the RAZR will disappoint in this regard. Out of all of the phones I have checked out lately, the HTC Raider (Vivid in the US) appears to have the clearest rendering of websites in full desktop mode. Regardless, the RAZR's screen is still a step forward and I would really like to see it in person, but until then, threads like this and OP's opinion provide an interesting read.

android is choice ...
... i played with the razr for 10min and i just can say it`s a great device, pure black, nice reading ... pentile or not, cool phone.

Is it me or is the 3d not even in the same ball park

I know this may have been discussed, but I went to look at the samsung nexus and samsung galaxy sII and wow do theses phone blow the 3d away. I was really surprised. The 3d is not even in the same ball park. I like my 3d but the 2 just make it feel so cheap. The screen doesnt even compair to either 2. The cameras are so much better than the 3d. If anyone says different they are on crack. Come a few more weeks i'll be able to upgrade and once sprint gets the samsung nexus I will defiantly make the switch. I have always had htc phones but its time to move on to bigger and better things.

They may seem nice at first but I've had nothing but bad experiences with samsung phones. I'm just one person though...I'm gonna stick with htc. Just my 2 cents.
We're comin from a pure power source.

it's just you.
to each his own though. my honest opinion of the s2 was that it felt cheap like a toy and had no "robust" feel to it. the earpiece speaker/call quality was **** compared to my 3D, the screen was low resolution, it had all kinds of bugs, and the OS looked like something from a nintendo game.
i will reluctantly be buying a nexus as well, reluctantly. and it will just be to try it out. i am skeptical simply because it is a samsung.

cds36 said:
I know this may have been discussed, but I went to look at the samsung nexus and samsung galaxy sII and wow do theses phone blow the 3d away. I was really surprised. The 3d is not even in the same ball park. I like my 3d but the 2 just make it feel so cheap. The screen doesnt even compair to either 2. The cameras are so much better than the 3d. If anyone says different they are on crack. Come a few more weeks i'll be able to upgrade and once sprint gets the samsung nexus I will defiantly make the switch. I have always had htc phones but its time to move on to bigger and better things.
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I'm gonna help you out and predict most people's responses:
Troll, have a good life, great story bro, etc.
You might consider giving a better argument. For instance, my gf's galaxy nexus seems to have a brighter and sharper screen. It's also a light phone. The camera appears to instantly take the shots. In fact I took a photo with it of a moving car and the car was barely blurred.

Yeah im in no way bashing Htc I was just really surprised. I know getting updates from samsung is like pulling teeth thats why im going with the nexus straight google.

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I'm gonna help you out and predict most people's responses:
Troll, have a good life, great story bro, etc.
You might consider giving a better argument. For instance, my gf's galaxy nexus seems to have a brighter and sharper screen. It's also a light phone. The camera appears to instantly take the shots. In fact I took a photo with it of a moving car and the car was barely blurred.
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True ... The argument just go see for yourself and compair. Like I said i like my 3d, but these just seem to be in a different class.

I hated how the EVO 3D felt in contrast to my Exhibit II 4G. Something about the overall plasticness that makes it feel lighter and more better.
Not to mention, the plastic body helps absorb shock much better than the dense material HTC uses. I'm glad I got rid of my EVO with its crappy radio.

My 2¢
I've had them all.
Motorola - best antenna
Samsung - lightest
HTC - most development
Or you could just go buy an iphone. Studies have shown, if you own an iPhone you're more likely to have sex

Go for it and enjoy! I'm happy with my 3D and the better dev community here.

Yes it is in the same ball park! I had the SGS2 for about 5 months and yes it was very good and I loved the super amoled plus screen, the things i don't like about it is that if feels cheap in the hand and the lack of Led Notifs (yes you can get bln but that doesn't cut it) Also Touchwiz sucks. From personal experience I would say the SGS2 devs are superb and it does have a great community, I have not looked around the 3D's forum to compare the two, even if it did have a bad community I don't mind as I got this phone at a great price and ill hopefully have it until it's life is over (which I hope isn't soon)
If you want a phone that feels like you could break it apart with you hands by all means go for the Sgs2. The galaxy nexus on the other hand I have to agree that it does look like it's in another league.

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Go for it and enjoy! I'm happy with my 3D and the better dev community here.
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THIS!
Dev support here is huge, and never liked Samsung aside from their screens to an extent...
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I liked using my Evo 3D. I'm using a Nexus S 4G right now (got a really good deal), and I just love the screen. The amoled screen, to me, looks much better than the TFT displays HTC uses. The 3D screen is light years ahead of the Evo 4G screen with it's pink hues when displaying at white background.
I will also say the camera sensors in the samsung devices are of better quality than what HTC uses. Again, this is in my experience, and I'm also not a professional photographer.
To say the 3D is not in the same ballpark as the SGSII, or Galaxy Nexus really isn't fair. At the time of release, the 3D was almost on top of the world. Shortly thereafter, the GSII came out, with its exynos processor, which has better performance than the Snapdragon used in the HTC devices.
Also, the Galaxy Nexus is a newer phone, with a larger screen, higher resolution, plus it's running the latest version of Android. This phone will eventually become "crappy" as the quad core devices come out, or future versions of android roll out that make this phone "sluggish". No phone stays on top for very long. The Nexus One, and Evo 4G are the only phones that have largely kept their halo status, despite their age.

in my opinion from first glance its easy to choose the gs2 or galaxy nexus over the e3d. but after having played with all 3 and knowing ppl with the others and there expierence im gonna go ahead and stick with htc..
screen wise although i love how awesome the super amoleds look the low resolution on the gs2 with such a big screen is a super turn off for me. the galaxy nexus on the other hand is just pure awesomeness screen wise. but the e3d's size and resolution are way more important than how vibrant it is. and this one might just be me but i find the slcd color reproduction to be way more accurate and not excessively vibrant as oppsed to samoled but the blacks suck..
as for the processor i still cant figure out why everyone goes crazy over the exynos its an awesome processor but as is the msm8660 in the e3d neither chip beats the other outright both having strong and weak points. and if uve played with a sense 3.5 or ics rom u know how awesome this phone will be when we do eventually get our update. right now thou its still great sense 3.0 isnt as fluid as 3.5 or above but its fast and runs apps amazingly. i cant stand touchwiz but thats not important because some ppl do. only stock android or sense for me
camera ill give that one to samsung they win big time haha. but the e3d camera still gets the job done and with the right settings i still manage to get some great shots.
i want to get the nexus ive been wanting one forever but the only thing stopping me is the lack of a microsd which isnt to crazy because id still have the same amount of memory i do now but there is no room for expansion which sucks. and i might actually miss sense to much. the widgets mainly but for me sense makes android so easy to get around.
and the build quality of sammy phones is just terrible. such great hardware put into this cheap plastic shell feels like a toy. i love my evo and my e3d ive dropped em several times and have no dents or scratches on my screens and ive never used a case the worse ive gotten is wear marks from using them for so long...
dont overlook the e3d it stands up really well against those two. they all got their perks that make em great just pick which is right for you.

I'm not sure why everyone gets hung up on the "poor build quality" of the samsung devices. They are made of plastic, and are light weight. Other than that, they are built very solidly. They do have glossy plastic, which shows scratches much easier than on matte plastic. The Evo 3D is entirely encased in a plastic wrapper, but it's heavy. The weight is the only difference in "build quailty".
HTC has had issues with light leakage around their screens. Dust getting between the digitizer and the LCD. I've heard of samsung phones getting blown speakers, lower signal quality (both wifi and 3G/4G), and lack of updates, but beyond that, their devices are fairly solid. HTC has recently been putting out better quality devices, so they have learned from past mistakes.
I'm just curious to see if there are truly a higher percentage of breakage with samsung phones, vs HTC phones.
Please note: I'm not hating on HTC phones, as every smartphone I've ever owned, with the exception of the Nexus S 4G, have been made by HTC. I just don't hear about samsung phones breaking all the time.

The nexus just came out, it should be "better"
The gs2 is good too but they have made like 10 skus of one device and mismatched different hardware on each one which blows for the end user
big screen with no HD, this one has this chip, 4g here not 4g there.... pure milk age of there first widely popular phone
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It's you. One word. Touchwiz.. At least we have the option of either sense, aosp, or miui.
I love my 3D. My next phone will be the next HTC Lte phone in sprints lineup.
Sprint EVO 3D.
HW version: 002
TWRP v1.1.1
Hboot 1.4.1000
Radio: 1.06.00.1216

for me its the glossy plastic that feels cheap. the lightweight is nice but i prefer a lil weight like the e3d gives u a better grip on it in my opinion. my cousin had the vibrant and any drop wouldnt break the phone but would eat chunks of that plastic were with the plastic htc uses it doesnt dent so easily worst u get is a nice scratch. the galaxy nexus seems interesting because it looks and feels much higher quality imo but i havent heard much if it actually is.
now for defects i havent experienced any and this is my 3rd htc android phone (hero, evo, evo3d) now im probably just lucky as both my evos were launch day and my hero i bought after at&t decided to rape me with some bull**** bill lol. i know there have been defects and although they r bad i much rather have light leakage or dust as opposed to weak signal and no gps.. but thats what warranties are for. there will always be a bad apple in a bunch as long as i can get it replaced for free i wont complain about it
i dont hate samsung btw. there phones are nice ive been considering getting one but for now im liking what htc has been doing and unless samsung changes it up its probably gonna stick that way because from the rumors of sense 4.0 i think im going to fall in love all over again..
only gripe i have with htc that i think they should consider is jumping on the samoled bandwagon as long as they keep the high resolution it would make them the top choice haha

Having had the Sprint version of the SGSII for a few months, I can definitely say this phone is in the same ballpark. My main issue with the SGSII (again, I'm only referring to the Epic Touch 4g here, I have no experience with the other versions) was the build quality, followed by the array of annoying bugs.
The build quality was particularly bad, the plastic felt very cheap and was scuffed extremely easily. The back of the phone is made from some of the thinnest and flimsiest plastic ever, it would come off so easily. The redeeming factor here was the screen, it was fantastic and easily one of the best screens on the market right here. The resolution was a little low but definitely not bad.
Moving on to the bugs...
The first bug that became apparent to me (and practically everyone else) was the random loss of service that would occur. It became very annoying when your phone would randomly drop out of service and stay like that until you clear the RAM or reboot the phone. Many people couldn't even use the phone for a business phone because they had to remain in contact with people, and having to check constantly for LoS was a HUGE annoyance. Next is the GPS, utterly terrible, there are no other words to describe it, it would take up to 20 minutes at times just to get a lock. I remember on one occasion a few days after buying the phone, I was planning on going to a concert and using it to navigate (Between the Buried and Me/Tesseract/Animals as Leaders ) but on the way back I could not receive a lock on the satellites and by the grace of god I somehow managed to make my way back home.
Still, the SGSII is an amazing phone with great specs, but in my personal opinion, from the build quality and support from htc alone, this is better.

Jesus guys....... no offense, but are we comparing a phone that was released June of last year. Buy what you like!! All three are great phones!!

I've handled the E4GT, the GNex, and, of course, my own Evo 3D.
And I prefer the 3D by far. The E4GT, while fluid, feels too insubstantial for my tastes. The 3D is thick and heavy, and I love that. My Evo 4G survived drop after drop and it still works, and I'm confident my 3D will be able to do the same (In fact, near the end of my time using the OG Evo, I would throw it every time it overheated and shut off; still nothing wrong with it besides a few scratches and that overheating issue).
The E4GT may have a better camera, but the 3D is no slouch itself. I have been very satisfied with the pictures I have taken; I'm not a professional photographer by any means, and most of you are in the same boat.
I have always looked at Sense as superior to Touchwiz. Touchwiz is more fluid, but Sense seems to have better integration and it just feels more solid.
It's the development community that makes the difference though. Compared to the 3D, the development community for the E4GT is abysmal. As said by Viperboy, "I really can't wait to get the Galaxy Nexus & get rid of the E4GT. What a development failure, IMO. Phone is great but no good development." Last I checked they barely if at all have CM and MIUI, and they don't have much at all for ICS.
The GNex is a good phone, but the specs are a bit disappointing and I don't see it as being an immensely better phone once other phones start to run ICS. It's main advantage is the screen.

why screen resolution and colors are so bad

I have a Photon and a Defy. Why Photon resolution is so bad? I can see the dots on screen...
Colors are so desaturated, specially yellow's...
I'm deeply disappointed with that...

Its the pentile hd display, yeah some colors show a little pixelation when you look closely, but ive always loved the screen and thought the colors were better displayed than the over-saturated colors in AOLED(did I spell that right?) Anyways, at firdt I thought the pixelation might bother me but It doesnt one bit cause its such a small difference for me atleast.. I love the color contrast though!
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AMOLED close enough though lol. And I use to think the same thing, but I really started to like the screen. Yeah its a little pixelated, but bright and easy to see. Just don't try to pay so much attention to it, and it won't bother you as much. Also don't use your phone so close to your face like I used to do haha.
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I had Defy, before Photon and I had the same problem with screen. But I must say, it's only a question of manner. Now I am satisfied with screen of Photon.

Pentile take getting used to, really wish they'd made it 720p so you can't notice but I like the display anyway

murilocruz said:
I have a Photon and a Defy. Why Photon resolution is so bad? I can see the dots on screen...
Colors are so desaturated, specially yellow's...
I'm deeply disappointed with that...
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So, why did you buy it? I've had mine 9 months and spent an hour with it in a store to make sure the screen worked with my eyes.
Isn't it about 9 months too late to be whining about something nobody forced you to buy?

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AMOLED close enough though lol. And I use to think the same thing, but I really started to like the screen. Yeah its a little pixelated, but bright and easy to see. Just don't try to pay so much attention to it, and it won't bother you as much. Also don't use your phone so close to your face like I used to do haha.
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yes! I forgot to add that cause im ao use to it now, the screen is SO easy to see,with brightness turned off and in the sun, you can still read your screen! Yeah you should probably turn up the brightness but every other phone you cant see a thing in the sun with the brightness off, very good for the battery!
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I've never noticed an issue with the display. Sure, I can see pixels if I look really close... and when quickly scrolling, it gets kinda blurry.
Still, I had the HTC Hero S (US Cellular's equivalent of you Sprint folks' HTC Evo Design 4G... but without the 4G) for six days, and my wife got the Electrify, and after seeing her screen, I traded. Hero S/Evo Design has the same number of pixels, but a smaller (4.0") screen. It had a very nice screen, but I wanted a bigger one. And when I got my Electrify, it just felt like the right phone.
I've seen Samsung's AMOLED screens. They aren't bad, but they aren't a selling point, to me. My last phone was a Samsung, and the call and reception quality going from Samsung to Motorola was huge, and the battery life isn't bad, either.

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I've never noticed an issue with the display. Sure, I can see pixels if I look really close... and when quickly scrolling, it gets kinda blurry.
Still, I had the HTC Hero S (US Cellular's equivalent of you Sprint folks' HTC Evo Design 4G... but without the 4G) for six days, and my wife got the Electrify, and after seeing her screen, I traded. Hero S/Evo Design has the same number of pixels, but a smaller (4.0") screen. It had a very nice screen, but I wanted a bigger one. And when I got my Electrify, it just felt like the right phone.
I've seen Samsung's AMOLED screens. They aren't bad, but they aren't a selling point, to me. My last phone was a Samsung, and the call and reception quality going from Samsung to Motorola was huge, and the battery life isn't bad, either.
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Good post.
I moved from the EVO to EVO 4G to Photon. From reading reviews at time I considered the Photon, I was fully prepared to hate the pentile screen. But, my eyes just plain did not see the pentile pixelation (from reading posts at the time, some peoples' eyes saw it, some didn't). I spent an hour in the store before buying the Photon.
During my return window, the Samsung Epic came out with larger screen (physically, but lower-res). Back to the store I go - I found the Sammy's screen to be way over-saturated wrt colors, and washed out in the sun.

ATRIX user opinions

Hey guys ! I own a HTC EVO 3D right now, but I'm going to switch it for an ATRIX 4G tomorrow.
I want to ask you... How do you feel about the ATRIX's screen? I know it's a TFT LCD with the RGBW matrix, which is what makes my brain twist and say "OH SH*T NO". What's your say on that?
Also... voice quality... Is it loud & clear enough? I mean, compared to other phones you might have owned...
And the camera?
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And... most of all... the chipset?! How is it going for you?! I hear it is actually less performant & more power-hungry than Qualcomm's dual core, but I don't really know...

awh its a great phone......but stock gb rom sucks. u wud love it if you are a social networking fan!! for me im pretty happy with my cm flavored atrix. the chip is good, camera is okay.....and about sound i dont give huge scores! display hmmm u shud love it!!

njarun said:
awh its a great phone......but stock gb rom sucks. u wud love it if you are a social networking fan!! for me im pretty happy with my cm flavored atrix. the chip is good, camera is okay.....and about sound i dont give huge scores! display hmmm u shud love it!!
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This whole weekend I've been going back and forth, deciding to trade it for an ATRIX, then changing my mind and returning to HTC... Now I was sure I was gonna make the switch, but here I go again, returning to HTC.
The ATRIX's screen is TFT, as opposed to HTC's S-LCD, and that wouldn't be THAT MUCH of a problem if it didn't had the RGBW matrix... I read a lot on the phone, and that would just ruin my experience, probably making me feel the urge to blend the phone or something.
I think I'll stick to HTC... If only Motorola were to use standard RGB...

good luck

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I feel somewhat bad for all this (the whole back and forth thing). No phone has everything you need... at least not without some drawbacks, GOD DAMN IT

Sense is hard to leave, especially with sense 4 out now.
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Formhault said:
I feel somewhat bad for all this (the whole back and forth thing). No phone has everything you need... at least not without some drawbacks, GOD DAMN IT
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as you are concerned about the screen, maybe i can help a little. first off, i have really great eyesight, pentile matrix displays make me want to hurt people, but its not all bad. the qHD resolution makes the subpixles much harder to see, i personally can only see them when its about a foot or closer to my face, some colors i can see it farther away, such as green, i can see some distortion about a foot and a half away form my face. but its very hard to see, its a HUGE difference form say, a captivates pentile screen.
next thing to keep in mind is the colors. yellow is a big complaint, i dont notice it to much but the colors are far from perfect, i feel the screen is a hair cold by default, and there are ways to reduce the blue if you are rooted, i did a guide on it a while ago.
last thing is gradients, they look bad, that is the only thing i really am disappointed with, you can see artifacting as the colors shift, although i dont know if im crazy but it seems better then before.
keep in mind that all of these things you will get use to with a little time, i got use to them quickly and i am a stickler for screen quality. one of the goods of the screen though is the battery life, the type of display saves a ton of juice thus making one of the longest lasting phones of its time. now that, I love.
im not trying to bash my own phone here, i love it, and always will, its an amazing device and was everything i wanted when i got it. the screen is something i can live with, and the the battery life plus the higher resolution makes up for it in my book.
let me know if there is anything else you want to know, hope i was a little helpful.

gh123man said:
as you are concerned about the screen, maybe i can help a little. first off, i have really great eyesight, pentile matrix displays make me want to hurt people, but its not all bad. the qHD resolution makes the subpixles much harder to see, i personally can only see them when its about a foot or closer to my face, some colors i can see it farther away, such as green, i can see some distortion about a foot and a half away form my face. but its very hard to see, its a HUGE difference form say, a captivates pentile screen.
next thing to keep in mind is the colors. yellow is a big complaint, i dont notice it to much but the colors are far from perfect, i feel the screen is a hair cold by default, and there are ways to reduce the blue if you are rooted, i did a guide on it a while ago.
last thing is gradients, they look bad, that is the only thing i really am disappointed with, you can see artifacting as the colors shift, although i dont know if im crazy but it seems better then before.
keep in mind that all of these things you will get use to with a little time, i got use to them quickly and i am a stickler for screen quality. one of the goods of the screen though is the battery life, the type of display saves a ton of juice thus making one of the longest lasting phones of its time. now that, I love.
im not trying to bash my own phone here, i love it, and always will, its an amazing device and was everything i wanted when i got it. the screen is something i can live with, and the the battery life plus the higher resolution makes up for it in my book.
let me know if there is anything else you want to know, hope i was a little helpful.
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I do a lot of reading on my phone, and having that screen would kill me... Plus the gradients thing... I noticed it in a 480p YouTube video, ffs, lol.
The battery is all nice, the chipset seems good enough, but even though the screen is all bright in the sun, its downs are making me wanna throw rocks at it, lol.
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You know what, I think I'm gonna give the ATRIX a try. I'm going in a couple of hours to see that guy to make the trade.

Got the phone. Tinkered with it already. Love it so far! This PenTile isn't really awful.

Formhault said:
Got the phone. Tinkered with it already. Love it so far! This PenTile isn't really awful.
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Which phone do you like better now since you got the Atrix? Just curious.
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Voelker45 said:
Which phone do you like better now since you got the Atrix? Just curious.
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It's hard for me to answer this.
I loved the EVO 3D. The back design made it attractive, and the overall body... it was nice, alright. Also, the big screen was neat.
There were a few things that made me change the phone. The screen was somewhat yellowish (had to use Filter Your Screen to add a blue alpha so it would not be so yellowish on white menus and so brownish on gray menus - but that still didn't fix it 100%). The earpiece was creaky, and so was the loudspeaker on maximum volume...
I wanted the ATRIX for it has a bigger battery, a decent chipset, and a more robust design. I mean... the body is more compact - feels better in the hand, more secure, I'd say. Besides, on this phone I no longer feel the urge to smash it on the wall for yellow whites or creaky voices in-calls.
Also, the screen is just AMAZING. Even though it's a TFT, and it's got PenTile, I find it really nice. The whites are PURE WHITE. The blacks are BLACK!!! Also, if you know that ICS wallpaper... it really looks better on the ATRIX. The colors were somewhat washed on the EVO 3D - proof that S-LCD still needed work. To be honest, I think this TFT screen can be compared to the Samsung Galaxy S's SUPER AMOLED.
Even if I turn down the screen's brightness to the minimum, the whites still blind me during night time, especially if I hold the phone somewhat close to my face. On full brightness, in the sunlight, it ROCKS !!!
The only thing I wished for is some aluminium on the body. It's all plasticky... good thing I have an iCase Pro (MOMAX) case, otherwise... I wouldn't really like it .

Formhault said:
It's hard for me to answer this.
I loved the EVO 3D. The back design made it attractive, and the overall body... it was nice, alright. Also, the big screen was neat.
There were a few things that made me change the phone. The screen was somewhat yellowish (had to use Filter Your Screen to add a blue alpha so it would not be so yellowish on white menus and so brownish on gray menus - but that still didn't fix it 100%). The earpiece was creaky, and so was the loudspeaker on maximum volume...
I wanted the ATRIX for it has a bigger battery, a decent chipset, and a more robust design. I mean... the body is more compact - feels better in the hand, more secure, I'd say. Besides, on this phone I no longer feel the urge to smash it on the wall for yellow whites or creaky voices in-calls.
Also, the screen is just AMAZING. Even though it's a TFT, and it's got PenTile, I find it really nice. The whites are PURE WHITE. The blacks are BLACK!!! Also, if you know that ICS wallpaper... it really looks better on the ATRIX. The colors were somewhat washed on the EVO 3D - proof that S-LCD still needed work. To be honest, I think this TFT screen can be compared to the Samsung Galaxy S's SUPER AMOLED.
Even if I turn down the screen's brightness to the minimum, the whites still blind me during night time, especially if I hold the phone somewhat close to my face. On full brightness, in the sunlight, it ROCKS !!!
The only thing I wished for is some aluminium on the body. It's all plasticky... good thing I have an iCase Pro (MOMAX) case, otherwise... I wouldn't really like it .
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Welcome to the atrix family
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bimasakti85 said:
Welcome to the atrix family
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thanks
Voelker45 said:
Good reasons and observations. I really liked that. They way you responded about the evo 3d, I wouldn't buy that at all. Thanks for sharing.
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Don't get me wrong... MY phone was a bad unit - about the yellowish screen. Another friend had the 3VO and it was white, but compared to my ATRIX now, the ATRIX is white and his 3VO yellow.
The creaking earpiece was also a problem that occured later - I believe some water got in, idk.
The EVO 3D is a great phone.
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Formhault said:
thanks
Don't get me wrong... MY phone was a bad unit - about the yellowish screen. Another friend had the 3VO and it was white, but compared to my ATRIX now, the ATRIX is white and his 3VO yellow.
The creaking earpiece was also a problem that occured later - I believe some water got in, idk.
The EVO 3D is a great phone.
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Nice Review. The atrix is a BEAST especially when throwing Neutrino behind it!

I came from a iPhone 4 to the Atrix a few months ago and it has it's ups and downs. My only real gripe of any consequence is the battery life. It isnt terrible, but you have to do a little tweaking (at least with CM7, I found so). I've been playing with ICS on it and so far have noticed a slight improvement in that arena. Plus ICS feels like a much nicer UI overall.
I love the size of the screen on, and I personally have found no problem with it. My main use for the phone (other than calls) is web browsing and reading using the Kindle and nook, and aldiko book readers.
And music playback of course. I have one playlist or another going most of the time if I am not talking to someone (desk job, might as well get my tune on).
My headphone jack failed a month or so after I bought the phone (used, off ebay), and while it was at Motorola getting fixed (warranty job, only paid shipping to them) I was back on my I4 for a couple weeks and I felt a lot better getting the Atrix back, and not just for Android. You just get addicted to the larger screen so easy.
My secondary gripe of any matter is the placement of the power button. Just feels very awkward to use 1 handed. But I added a wake on volume mod instead, and that problem was solved.

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I came from a iPhone 4 to the Atrix a few months ago and it has it's ups and downs. My only real gripe of any consequence is the battery life. It isnt terrible, but you have to do a little tweaking (at least with CM7, I found so). I've been playing with ICS on it and so far have noticed a slight improvement in that arena. Plus ICS feels like a much nicer UI overall.
I love the size of the screen on, and I personally have found no problem with it. My main use for the phone (other than calls) is web browsing and reading using the Kindle and nook, and aldiko book readers.
And music playback of course. I have one playlist or another going most of the time if I am not talking to someone (desk job, might as well get my tune on).
My headphone jack failed a month or so after I bought the phone (used, off ebay), and while it was at Motorola getting fixed (warranty job, only paid shipping to them) I was back on my I4 for a couple weeks and I felt a lot better getting the Atrix back, and not just for Android. You just get addicted to the larger screen so easy.
My secondary gripe of any matter is the placement of the power button. Just feels very awkward to use 1 handed. But I added a wake on volume mod instead, and that problem was solved.
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I hate the iPhone. Overpriced, tiny 3.5 incher... Besides, Android is much better. Otherwise I would have gotten an iPhone...
If the EVO 3D unit I had didn't had those few things that I didn't like about (malfunctions, that is), I would've sticked to it. Just letting ya know. I consider the EVO 3D above the ATRIX (in some aspects, at leasts).
But compared to the iPhone 4S... The ATRIX wins big time. Bigger battery, better CPU, bigger RAM, better/nicer OS, bigger screen... The only thing I'm concerned about is the GPU. I know it's an 8-core UltraLowPower processor, but... does it really perform as good as/better than the PowerVR's or Adreno's?! I, for one, would say no but that might be some driver-related issue, which should/might be fixed when the official ICS drops...

Im glad you liked the Atrix. Its a pretty dam nice phone, im im love with it. Very fast and smooth. qHD screens are awesome. Great battery life. Feels very nice on my hand. Nice design, IMO. Welcome to the atrix family.
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But compared to the iPhone 4S... The ATRIX wins big time. Bigger battery, better CPU, bigger RAM, better/nicer OS, bigger screen... The only thing I'm concerned about is the GPU. I know it's an 8-core UltraLowPower processor, but... does it really perform as good as/better than the PowerVR's or Adreno's?! I, for one, would say no but that might be some driver-related issue, which should/might be fixed when the official ICS drops...
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Ouch, gonna have to disagree there. Nothing really beats iPhones os, its sooo simple and easy to use. Best thing about it is that they DONT need quad core, even my ipad2 runs perfect with gaming. The OS is so perfectly optimized that even with my wife's 3gs, there are only a few hiccups. The one thing that I will agree with is the 3.5 inch screen. That's too small. Imagine a 4.3 inch with that retina display....mmmm......
But these are all personal opinions, and no one will ever agree.
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Drank the Samsung Kool-Aid for far too long..

Like the title says, I've been a Samsung leg humper since the original Galaxy S. In my line of work, I always had access to the latest handsets. Had almost every variant of the Original Galaxy S (ATT, International and T-Mobile 4G version) Galaxy SII again in ATT, International and T-mobile versions, The S3 in the Quad-Core International Version and T-Mobile Dual Core S4 version, then had also both the Note and Note 2.
I just preferred Samsung phones over other Android phones. My most recent addition is my T-Mobile Galaxy S4.
I am currently in the process of returning it! Wow did Samsung disappoint me in this edition. It feels unfinished, unrefined, slap together with a bunch of gimmicky tricks that I disabled immediately after 10 minutes of messing with them. The phone feels cheap... especially in the black version. That back plastic finish and pattern looks SUPER TACKY. They should have at least made it look like the finish on the Note 2's Titanium Gray, that at least looks pretty premium for plastic.
Don't get me started on the software, the phone LAGS. I mean A LOT! I was using a Nexus 4 while waiting for the S4 and boy is it night and day. The Nexus is buttery, the S4 lags in simple tasks like closing and opening the dialer and switching between homescreens, it lags when you open the camera. It stutters everywhere. It feels like a 2 generation old Android Phone, not the latest and greatest. It's quite pathetic really.
The stock keyboard is terrible, it lags when you type fast. It just can't keep up with fast typing. I was even pushed the latest software update a couple days ago which everybody raves fixes a bunch of lag, it helped but honestly the phone still lags and stutters all over the place. Completely inconsistent and frustrating. What really ticked me off was that Samsung disabled flash player support in their native browser and chrome. That was the last straw..
Today my T-Mobile HTC One arrived, I've been playing with it for the last 5 hours and I can't put it down! Well it's currently on the charger right now so I can play with it some more. That's the biggest compliment I can give it, when my S4 arrived, I played with it for maybe an hour and was so disgusted by the lag that I haven't really enjoyed picking it up and using it much since I received it 9 days ago! The HTC feels just so much more refined in everything, it feels finished and polished. Software is smooth, I saw a tiny, and I mean TINY bit of lag during closing a couple apps but it's nothing compared to the stuttering on the S4. Boom sound is overrated I think, the S4 is just as loud (seems almost louder?) but the HTC sounds fuller. I thought I was going to be blown away, but I wasn't. Sounds pretty good though, just not as amazing as all the reviewers make it seem. Camera is nice so far, nowhere near as feature packed as the S4, but it took decent low light pictures tonight. I'll try it again out in daylight tomorrow.
The LCD screen on the HTC ONE is so much better than the AMOLED screen on the S4 in my opinion. Text and everything seems just so much easier and smoother to look at. Everything looks crisp, and smooth.
Well that is it so far, I'm so glad I gave the HTC a shot. This one is a keeper for sure! Goodbye Samsung, you used to wow me with your products....HTC just kicked your butt on this round.

I completely agree that Samsung did not do as well as HTC this time

What is your line of work if you don't mind? I played with my friends s4 today- I have the note 2 and also noticed the lag on stock touch wiz and the keyboard. I put him on nova launcher and it was buttery smooth going through the phone's interface. I know what you mean by keyboards lag but I think Samsung will push an update to smooth things out, which honestly should have been done from the start. I like how the s4 looks with that texture but it is a bit tacky and wow does or attract fingerprints. It's plastic body does allow it to be thinner and lighter though. Each phone has its advantages and disadvantages .
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gonna give the HTC one a try if i dont like it, hopefuly the 32gb s4 will be out by then

Well after almost 24 hours of use I can report some other findings.
The Camera on the S4 is hands down better in good lighting, the HTC produces a lot of noise even in great light. A little disappointed in that area since I do use my phone to take lots of family photos.
NEED FOR SPEED: Most wanted. Not available on the HTC One but is available for the Galaxy S4. Lame. They have the same processor and the same screen resolution yet the Samsung supports it and the HTC one doesn't. It's one of my favorite time killing games. A little sad there...
The LED notification on the HTC seems to time out after about 5 or 10 minutes, which makes it useless. I sometimes come back and glance at the phone thinking there are no messages because the LED notifier turns off, I check my phone just in case and I have lots of texts and emails. Minus another point for the HTC. The S4 will glady blink all day long until you open it up to check it. This one really bothers me because I rely heavily on the LED notification.
Boom sound still is overrated...
Overall, the HTC disappointed me in a few areas so far... I've yet to find a phone that is near perfect as the Note 2. Which in my opinion is an awesome phone, just needed a little speed boost in games and maybe a tiny bit smaller form factor and it would have been perfect.
I'll hang on to the HTC for a while and wait to see what the Note 3 can offer...... So far the Note 2 is still my favorite handset of all time.

Nice to hear that update. I too miss the LED notification that the S3 has. It's nice having something, but Samsung really nailed the notification LED. I can live with the size of the LED on the One, but it would be nice to have more of it, and different colors for different notifications.
I also agree with the daytime photos. The One is good enough for my needs but the S4 does indeed pull in a great amount of detail.
I do however love "boomsound". I watch a lot of videos on my phone and can clearly hear the difference between the One, my GS3 (which I still have), and my Z10. It might not be louder than the other two, but man it just sounds better. If you do a blind sound test, you can clearly pick the One over the others.
HTC Could have really put a dent in Samsung's sales if they'd included an 8 "ultra pixel" camera.

Some of the things I agree with about the One. But I have a few pointers, I see no reason whatsoever why you're are getting noise on the One. The sensor is far to large to get noise unless you are in low light where it stills blows away other devices. Check your settings.
I've been using the camera in mediocre light with no noise.
As for the LED it is pretty much useless, especially coming from the world's greatest in the Galaxy Nexus. What I did was root and flashed the kernel that enables the capacitive lights to blink on a notification and it doesn't shut down after 5 minutes.
Also I finally heard the difference today between beats on and off. The difference is night and day, you will lose a good quarter volume but the sound is worlds better. Loud < Quality.
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I honestly thought I would be one of the few to get the One after having the S3. Looks like there are plenty!

I don't get any noise on my One either.

I think I'm going to get a HTC....
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Im using Galaxy S3 now, its a piece of crap. Im on vacation when the One isnt release yet. So I went and bought S3, will give this to my nephew.
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I owned the S2 and the S3, then I bought the HTC One as well. The S4 is just full of useless gimmicks honestly, and they are marketing it as such. They didn't change much other than internal hardware compared to the S3 and the HTC One is a completely fresh new idea.
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I think the S4 is a damn fine phone. However I've owned ever galaxy s and note series except the S4.
I needed the change. Just something different.
The ONE fit that bill perfectly.
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mr.orange303 said:
I think the S4 is a damn fine phone. However I've owned ever galaxy s and note series except the S4.
I needed the change. Just something different.
The ONE fit that bill perfectly.
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I agree. Both are good phones. I bought the one at Wal-mart. Saw that they had a 14 day return policy. I expected to check it out and return the phone. But today the 2 weeks is up, and I just can't make myself give it up.

My latest phones iphone iphone 3g 3gs 4 4s htc sensation samsung galaxy s s2 note note 2 now the HTC one.
Samsung did screw up on their galaxy s3s (s4). I knew they were on this path without a better phone with metal body or any other material besides plastic. Even though most won't admit it people buy the HTC one because of its looks.
I too agree the galaxy note 2 is/was my most favorite phone ever since I got the first iphone in 2007 before that maybe the motorola rzr . The note 3 should not be bigger unless they make it narrower, The note 2 is still too wide.
I have been all samsung phones like you too. It wasnt really the koolaid it was because they did have the best phones since the s2.
HTC one camera sucks ass!
Yes i said it, ok low light its good, but its still 4 megapixels so if you're going to zoom at all there is no clarity.
Boom sound is overrated
my note 2 with volume mod is louder
I hate the HTCs notification!!!
I also hate the battery life. I'm biased because my note 2 lasts a day and half of heavy use without a charge yes 24 hrs + 12 hrs/
I also dislike the ceo of htc. Production delays (because of the 4 gigawiggle pixel) cost over a month of HTC ones sales they lost out on billions of sales!! because of the inferior camera. Why not just put a 8 or 13 megapixel camera??!??
I guess im a little angry because I bought HTC stock and because of the production delay it cost HTC its early lead before the S4 launch.
Both sides made huge mistakes
Samsung if they made the s4 with a metal build would have maybe crushed the htc one.
The HTC one lucked out that samsung didnt.
Because can you imagine if samsung's s4 came in a fancy new metal design?
HTC one metal design no microsd card no removable battery 4.7" screen
S4 metal design microsd card slot removable larger battery 5" screen

I'm good with my s4,i love the design on the one, but I wouldn't be able to live without a extended battery. Both phones are awesome, up to user choice. I just hate people putting rants and complains and blah blah blah. Both phones are flagship phones, they both are new. They both are good.
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So basically Dan there is no pleasing you. HTC one hands down better device than s4. It seems you want perfection though , which you will never get.
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Okay, here is a picture I took in front of my friend's house. In good lighting.
Can somebody tell me WTF is up with the HTC ONE camera? It looks like utter **** at 100 percent crop in full daylight condition.
Quality reminds of something you get from those $20 kids toy digital camera.

Dan37tz said:
Okay, here is a picture I took in front of my friend's house. In good lighting.
Can somebody tell me WTF is up with the HTC ONE camera? It looks like utter **** at 100 percent crop in full daylight condition.
Quality reminds of something you get from those $20 kids toy digital camera.
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that looks bad real bad. settings must be off?
I have noticed when I take a pic say of a building with a phone number. When i zoom to read the numbers. the numbers are blurry. Not with my note 2 and i would assume s4 13 mp

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that looks bad real bad. settings must be off?
I have noticed when I take a pic say of a building with a phone number. When i zoom to read the numbers. the numbers are blurry. Not with my note 2 and i would assume s4 13 mp
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Yes the HTC one pictures look like they were taken by a home made Lego camera. Very Very bad.

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