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Hey all,
I've recently rooted and I'm loving it. Quick background, I've recently rooted using the erisuser1 tutorial at android forums (VERY VERY helpful thank you!). I demo'd a few different ROMs, and decided I really wanted to keep some SenseUI feel, so ended up with xtrSense 4.2. It's worked really well for me, but I may be trying more in the near future (recommendations are welcome!). After the load, I've also utilized SetCPU for OC'ing, which was the main impetus for rooting. Has that ever made a difference! However, the question remains, what next? First, there are a couple things I know I want to do...
1. Remove stock apps: xtrSense did a nice job of removing a lot of bloatware from the OS, but some still remain, i.e. Amazon MP3 and teeter. It seems the xtrSense ROM included scripts for use in GScript to remove these, but I have yet to get them to work when following the steps outlined in the xtrSense post here at XDA. Has anyone had success using this method? If not, shouldn't the mere fact that I have root give me access to removing these programs via another method? What other apps/processes are used to remove stock apps once root is achieved? Any help would be awesome.
2. A2SD, C2SD & C2C: Does anyone use these processes? If so, how has it been achieved? Again, it seems the xtrSense 4.2 ROM included scripts for use in GScript to added this functionality, but I have never seen an increase in internal memory after using the scripts. I have undertaken the prereq that is partitioning my SD card, and have yet to see any success. Have others been successful using this or another process to achieve A2SD, C2SD or C2C? If so, how? Also, are there any cons to doing any of these? Any help in this regard would be MUCH appreciated.
3. What have YOU done post-root? I'm very very happy with what root, ROM and OC has done for the speed and battery life of my phone. However, I'm certain there are a million more tweaks that can be done to improve the speed and user experience of this cool little device, and I would be love to hear what others have done to further enjoy using the Droid Eris. What are your recommendations? Feel free to let me know!
Ok, any help in these areas would be really appreciated. Thanks for reading through this long post, and know that I am also happy to share any knowledge in regards to the steps I have already taken to get to this point.
Thank you!
Make the rom your own! mess with the theme, install bootanimations, make your own boot.
Change the splash screen (skateboard screen) don't be afraid to mess with the system just make sure you do nandroid backups. Try to figure how to add the features by yourself, struggle with it a little, that's always fun. Follow a few tutorials, like when I was starting there wasn't much documentation on how to enable a2sd by changing the boot.img so I had fun figuring that out.
Hope this gives you a few ideas ;p
Edit: if you going to be messing with phone I would suggest adding a linux partition to your computer if you are a windows person. Makes your life easier no need to worry about drivers etc
Sent from my Eris using XDA App
Agree, wholeheartedly! I've been rooted since July, and have learned a lot using this forum. It's great to be able to change the boot logo screen, boot animations, etc. You can also improve battery life, increase speed, etc. After root, it's like having a new phone, and you have a greater sense of control over your device each time you learn something new. Have fun!
ckfalls said:
1. Remove stock apps: xtrSense did a nice job of removing a lot of bloatware from the OS, but some still remain, i.e. Amazon MP3 and teeter. It seems the xtrSense ROM included scripts for use in GScript to remove these, but I have yet to get them to work when following the steps outlined in the xtrSense post here at XDA. Has anyone had success using this method? If not, shouldn't the mere fact that I have root give me access to removing these programs via another method? What other apps/processes are used to remove stock apps once root is achieved? Any help would be awesome.
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I don't know what to tell you, as removing stock applications with zach.xtr's Gscript process has always worked flawlessly for me. You may want to upgrade to the new xtrSENSE4.6 Beta that is out (you can find it by browser the more recent posts at the end of the xtrSENSE thread--Zach posted a link).
All I can say is that, when using Gscripts, make sure that you have "Needs SU?" checked. Aside from that, you just need to load Zach's scripts into Gscripts. After you load the scripts, have you pressed them? Just because you've loaded them into Gscripts doesn't mean they've run. You actually need to press on them to run them.
ckfalls said:
2. A2SD, C2SD & C2C: Does anyone use these processes? If so, how has it been achieved? Again, it seems the xtrSense 4.2 ROM included scripts for use in GScript to added this functionality, but I have never seen an increase in internal memory after using the scripts. I have undertaken the prereq that is partitioning my SD card, and have yet to see any success. Have others been successful using this or another process to achieve A2SD, C2SD or C2C? If so, how? Also, are there any cons to doing any of these? Any help in this regard would be MUCH appreciated.
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I've used all of them at various points in time--I used to use A2SD and C2SD, but ever since C2C was developed I've had no need. In xtrSENSE4.2, I'm pretty sure C2C is enabled by default. So, you don't need to worry about it UNLESS you're running low on disk space. If you're running low, how many apps do you have installed (you should be able to store ~100 with C2C)?
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3. What have YOU done post-root? I'm very very happy with what root, ROM and OC has done for the speed and battery life of my phone. However, I'm certain there are a million more tweaks that can be done to improve the speed and user experience of this cool little device, and I would be love to hear what others have done to further enjoy using the Droid Eris. What are your recommendations? Feel free to let me know!
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My recommendation would be NOT to use SetCPU. I've found that running both of Zach's Gscripts for Max and Min CPU Speed has worked better--you won't need to wait for SetCPU to load up, be granted Superuser Permission, and then adjust your clock settings on boot. Plus, you'll have one less process running at all times, increasing performance.
Additionally, you may want to take a look at the xtrSENSE4.6 Beta that I mentioned previously. New, in that version, is the first ever inclusion of Collins_ph's Battery Tweak. Previously, it could only be used with Froyo ROMs. Enabling and configuring the utility will increase battery life because it gradually turns down the speed on your processor proportionally as your battery drains.
In terms of making the ROM "your own," I'd take a look in the Theme's thread. I can't provide you a list of everything that will work on xtrSENSE, but I can confirm that both the Minimal Matte Grey and Touch of Legend MetaMorph Themes do work for xtrSENSE. Also, you may want to check out LauncherPro (Plus), if you haven't already (www.launcherpro.com)... I absolutely love LauncherPro Plus, but I'm not "actively" using it. I'm really waiting on Fede to develop acceptable Photo and Music widgets to replace HTC's Sense Widgets (if anyone has suggestions on existing replacements, please let me know...). Having said that, I run a secondary "experimental" ROM on weekend--I run xtrROM with LauncherPro Plus. If you do decide to use LauncherPro, then I'd really recommend taking a look at xtrROM verses xtrSENSE.
Also, if you're a Sense fan, you might want to check out the newest version of KaosLegendary, V18. This is a port of a Tiawanese leaked version of HTC's forecoming Wildfire Sense UI. This is an Alpha Build at the moment and there are a few nagging issues, but it's neat just to use for half a day on the weekend to see how Froyo Sense will eventually pan out.
Finally, take a look at some of the Froyo ROMs that are built around CyanogenMod 6.0 (e.g. CELB Froyo; KaosFroyo; Tazz Froyo; and I think ShadowROM). Maybe you'll find that you like CyanogenMod better than Sense and stick with that?
Good luck!
P.S. In the future, you're probably better off posting something like this in the Q&A section.
I highly reccommend downloading Titanium and running a batch back up of all your apps and data. When you flash a new rom you can download Titanium again and restore your apps and settings (saves a lot of time if you become a flashaholic). Also grab Root Explorer. It's an app that allows you to access your sd card and your rom system. Wana change your boot animation? Save the file to your sd, open Root Explorer, copy it from the sd to data/local and reboot. Same goes for stock apps. Locate them and delete. Another valuable app is a terminal emulator. Open it up, type SU to obtain superuser permission, then a2sd check. This will tell you if a2sd is functioning correctly. Type a2sd help for a list of commands to use if it's not working.
Always Nand back up and you can flash any rom you want, play with it, screw it up, who cares....nand restore and you're back to point A. I highly reccommend trying a few Froyo roms. You'll need to partition your sd back to all fat32 or it wont recognize it. Froyo is faster than 2.1 and has a stock (somewhat different) a2sd. KaosLegendary is the only current Froyo rom with sense but it's fun to play with. WARNING - many users have bricked their phones using Clockwork. Some people love it but I'm afraid of it.
If you haven't already, try ADW or Launcher Pro. Once you decide you hate one and love the other (this will happen), you wont even miss sense.
Also download Metamorph and Busybox. You'll need these to theme your rom of choice (unless you find a flashable theme).
Now, put your phone down, get back to work, and for God's sake tell your wife you love her. You haven't even talked to her in weeks!!
Sent from my nonsensikal froyo using XDA App
joshw0000 said:
I highly reccommend downloading Titanium and running a batch back up of all your apps and data. When you flash a new rom you can download Titanium again and restore your apps and settings (saves a lot of time if you become a flashaholic).
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Great post! +1 on Titantium Backup and Root Explorer--I use both.
Just a note: With Titanium Backup, I recommend scheduling it to backup both Apps + System Data and syncing it with Dropbox. This way, if something should happen, like your SD Card becomes corrupt and you can't Nand Restore, you'll be able to reflash your current ROM and Restore all Apps + System Data, since you're having a scheduled backup taken and stored in your Dropbox folder as well.
Having said that, when flashing a NEW ROM or UPGRADING, remember to Restore "Apps + Data" but NOT to do the "Restore Apps + System Data." This will ensure that if the developer of your ROM has changed any system files, they won't be messed up. Sure, it'll take you 10-15 minutes to get your ROM the way you want (e.g. Home Screens, Systems Sounds, Notifications, etc.) but it's worth it to know that everything will work properly. Since your applications and their set up have nothing to do with the ROM, you can rest easily knowing that at least they'll come back configured as you left them for the most part.
KarateExplosion6 said:
Great post! +1 on Titantium Backup and Root Explorer--I use both.
Just a note: With Titanium Backup, I recommend scheduling it to backup both Apps + System Data and syncing it with Dropbox. This way, if something should happen, like your SD Card becomes corrupt and you can't Nand Restore, you'll be able to reflash your current ROM and Restore all Apps + System Data, since you're having a scheduled backup taken and stored in your Dropbox folder as well.
Having said that, when flashing a NEW ROM or UPGRADING, remember to Restore "Apps + Data" but NOT to do the "Restore Apps + System Data." This will ensure that if the developer of your ROM has changed any system files, they won't be messed up. Sure, it'll take you 10-15 minutes to get your ROM the way you want (e.g. Home Screens, Systems Sounds, Notifications, etc.) but it's worth it to know that everything will work properly. Since your applications and their set up have nothing to do with the ROM, you can rest easily knowing that at least they'll come back configured as you left them for the most part.
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Perfectly explained, nice job sir. This should be in the rollup!! Too many people make the mistake of restoring sys data from a older rom to newer, have to watch that. Rollup
My article at http://jonsuh.com/2010/09/make-your-droid-eris-faster-smoother-and-increase-battery-life-how-to/ will give you a whole mess of ideas of what you can do post-root. Hope this article helps!
Remember, these are just my suggestions, they are not necessarily the law. Some may disagree with my suggestions, some may work well for you, other may not as well as one may think. They are just pointers to get you in the right direction
KarateExplosion6 said:
I don't know what to tell you, as removing stock applications with zach.xtr's Gscript process has always worked flawlessly for me. You may want to upgrade to the new xtrSENSE4.6 Beta that is out (you can find it by browser the more recent posts at the end of the xtrSENSE thread--Zach posted a link).
All I can say is that, when using Gscripts, make sure that you have "Needs SU?" checked. Aside from that, you just need to load Zach's scripts into Gscripts. After you load the scripts, have you pressed them? Just because you've loaded them into Gscripts doesn't mean they've run. You actually need to press on them to run them.
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Ah, the tapping!! That did it. Also messed around (again) with titanium to get it to work, fig'd that out as well. Rookie mistakes...
KarateExplosion6 said:
I've used all of them at various points in time--I used to use A2SD and C2SD, but ever since C2C was developed I've had no need. In xtrSENSE4.2, I'm pretty sure C2C is enabled by default. So, you don't need to worry about it UNLESS you're running low on disk space. If you're running low, how many apps do you have installed (you should be able to store ~100 with C2C)?
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Yes you're right C2C is default, I guess I'm just not certain if it's working. Apparently, there are two blocks on internal storage being used for apps in 4.2: /data/ and /cache/. I have 56mb free according to internal memory settings (/data/??) and 87.7 of 130mb used in /cache/ according to the report setting gscript Zach made. According to AppBrain I currently have 33 apps installed. 33 apps, ~100mb used already? Average of 3mb per app?? That just didn't seem right to me...maybe I'm just plain wrong. Opinions welcome!!
KarateExplosion6 said:
My recommendation would be NOT to use SetCPU. I've found that running both of Zach's Gscripts for Max and Min CPU Speed has worked better--you won't need to wait for SetCPU to load up, be granted Superuser Permission, and then adjust your clock settings on boot. Plus, you'll have one less process running at all times, increasing performance.
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I may try that, although in full disclosure, my main reason for rooting and OC'ing was for running game console emulators. They run SO much better since OC'ing. I did try Zach's max out of the box (710 max?), but I find that my SetCPU main setting of 768,528 during normal usage makes operation even more smooth and especially works best when emulating. I want to OC even when battery is lowering until it gets to the condition threshold i set in SetCPU (amount or temp). But I still may try his scripts and lose SetCPU, thanks for the idea.
KarateExplosion6 said:
In terms of making the ROM "your own," I'd take a look in the Theme's thread. I can't provide you a list of everything that will work on xtrSENSE, but I can confirm that both the Minimal Matte Grey and Touch of Legend MetaMorph Themes do work for xtrSENSE. Also, you may want to check out LauncherPro (Plus), if you haven't already I absolutely love LauncherPro Plus, but I'm not "actively" using it. I'm really waiting on Fede to develop acceptable Photo and Music widgets to replace HTC's Sense Widgets (if anyone has suggestions on existing replacements, please let me know...). Having said that, I run a secondary "experimental" ROM on weekend--I run xtrROM with LauncherPro Plus. If you do decide to use LauncherPro, then I'd really recommend taking a look at xtrROM verses xtrSENSE.
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So here's my questions with this: Don't apps like MetaMorph and Launcher run on top of everything that the ROM already has going on, thus adding another cumbersome running process to the already limited hardware? Wouldn't running this be akin to having two GUI's on the phone, or am I looking at this the wrong way? I'm assuming that's why you recommend switching to the more vanilla xtrROM, but maybe I'm off.
I also do badly want to try some additional ROM's once I have the time. The leaked Froyo with Sense ROM does sound intriguing and I may pursue that next.
Thanks for all the help, really appreciate the replies!
Will go the Q&A route next time too, thanks.
KarateExplosion6 said:
Great post! +1 on Titantium Backup and Root Explorer--I use both.
Just a note: With Titanium Backup, I recommend scheduling it to backup both Apps + System Data and syncing it with Dropbox. This way, if something should happen, like your SD Card becomes corrupt and you can't Nand Restore, you'll be able to reflash your current ROM and Restore all Apps + System Data, since you're having a scheduled backup taken and stored in your Dropbox folder as well.
Having said that, when flashing a NEW ROM or UPGRADING, remember to Restore "Apps + Data" but NOT to do the "Restore Apps + System Data." This will ensure that if the developer of your ROM has changed any system files, they won't be messed up. Sure, it'll take you 10-15 minutes to get your ROM the way you want (e.g. Home Screens, Systems Sounds, Notifications, etc.) but it's worth it to know that everything will work properly. Since your applications and their set up have nothing to do with the ROM, you can rest easily knowing that at least they'll come back configured as you left them for the most part.
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Great thank you both! I will take both of these posts into account when using Titanium before I go further down the ROM rabbit hole.
[?] [Script] V6 SuperCharger !! HTK & BulletProof Launchers! FIX MEMORY FOR ALL ANDRO
so far nobody has mentioned this, not even sure how many people look in this section of the forums, but here goes.
anyone out there willing to test and port this over for fascinate?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
general info:
Main points:
- CUST-OOMIZER! Use your settings without Autokiller Memory Optimizer or Auto Memory Manager!
- For newer phones with lots of ram, use the 3rd slot to set how much free ram you want.
- If you have /system/etc/rootfs/init.mapphone_umts.rc, it makes a backup and edits that single file. This is nice and tidy.
... Thank to kabaldan for pointing out the importance of certain things.
- Most Custom ROMs - If you have a /system/etc/init.d folder, it creates 99SuperCharger in there and edits /data/local.prop (20 entries added for adjusting priorities and groupings). You shouldn't need to configure anything else.
- Stock ROMs - If you have neither, it creates /data/99SuperCharger.sh which you can load up on boot (run as root) with Script Manager. The OOM groupings work as well since it happens on boot in local.prop (20 entries added)
Note: For some reason, the minfree levels do not stick on some Custom ROMs. I don't know why this is. Maybe a bug in GingerBread?
........ If this happens to you, use Script Manager to load /system/etc/init.d/99SuperCharger "on boot" and "run as root"
In case of any error, you will find a related help file in the root of your SD card.
So... I think this covers ANY Android ROM
It also determines if you're using Script Manager and gives appropriate information/tips/help files depending on what other factors are present.
The above is really ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW.
The V6 SuperCharger script does everything!
Anything below is extra info!
It's just a single file... 806 lines (807 if you count the blank line at the end LOL)
So... What's it do?
It makes your phone FAST... super snappy with better multitasking!
If you read between the red lines below (parts 1-3), you'll see that at first it was only about minfrees and launcher redraw.
But after installing GingerBread, I saw that it needed more work than Froyo LOL.
Groupings were ALL MESSED UP and made NO SENSE to me whatsoever...
So I figured out how to group them more like CM6 (Froyo) but that still wasn't good enough...
I further rearranged the OOM Groupings and Priorites and lowmemorykiller values for a...
COMPLETE MEMORY MANAGEMENT FIX!
That's basically what this is
Faster than ever, no launcher redraws, multitasking is better... why?
Because it works with the lowmemorykiller and letting it work the way it's meant to work.
Also, because of the rearrangement, it works the same on all roms!
The problem with using minfree tweakers like AMM or AKMO is that it doesn't work the same on all roms.
Secondary apps may be in slot 3 on some roms but in slot 5 in others!
That's why you hear people comment "I tried AKMO but it didn't do anything..."
Most likely it didn't do anything because the apps weren't sitting where they were expected to be.
Upon installation, V6 SuperCharger will first clean up any previous supercharging so none of your files get cluttered.
But if you toggle between Hard To Kill and BulletProof launchers, the memory adjustments aren't affected.
So you can leave your minfrees at stock/default settings and apply the Hard To Kill Launcher and still get the OOM Grouping/Priority fixes.
So if you love your ROMs memory settings, just try the HTK Launcher/OOM Fix... you won't regret it
Ah, I used this script on my wife's Eris, and it did fix the speed a tad, no clue how it would react on an already fast phone, but hell, any little bit helps.
Izeltokatl said:
so far nobody has mentioned this, not even sure how many people look in this section of the forums, but here goes.
anyone out there willing to test and port this over for fascinate?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
general info:
Main points:
- CUST-OOMIZER! Use your settings without Autokiller Memory Optimizer or Auto Memory Manager!
- For newer phones with lots of ram, use the 3rd slot to set how much free ram you want.
- If you have /system/etc/rootfs/init.mapphone_umts.rc, it makes a backup and edits that single file. This is nice and tidy.
... Thank to kabaldan for pointing out the importance of certain things.
- Most Custom ROMs - If you have a /system/etc/init.d folder, it creates 99SuperCharger in there and edits /data/local.prop (20 entries added for adjusting priorities and groupings). You shouldn't need to configure anything else.
- Stock ROMs - If you have neither, it creates /data/99SuperCharger.sh which you can load up on boot (run as root) with Script Manager. The OOM groupings work as well since it happens on boot in local.prop (20 entries added)
Note: For some reason, the minfree levels do not stick on some Custom ROMs. I don't know why this is. Maybe a bug in GingerBread?
........ If this happens to you, use Script Manager to load /system/etc/init.d/99SuperCharger "on boot" and "run as root"
In case of any error, you will find a related help file in the root of your SD card.
So... I think this covers ANY Android ROM
It also determines if you're using Script Manager and gives appropriate information/tips/help files depending on what other factors are present.
The above is really ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW.
The V6 SuperCharger script does everything!
Anything below is extra info!
It's just a single file... 806 lines (807 if you count the blank line at the end LOL)
So... What's it do?
It makes your phone FAST... super snappy with better multitasking!
If you read between the red lines below (parts 1-3), you'll see that at first it was only about minfrees and launcher redraw.
But after installing GingerBread, I saw that it needed more work than Froyo LOL.
Groupings were ALL MESSED UP and made NO SENSE to me whatsoever...
So I figured out how to group them more like CM6 (Froyo) but that still wasn't good enough...
I further rearranged the OOM Groupings and Priorites and lowmemorykiller values for a...
COMPLETE MEMORY MANAGEMENT FIX!
That's basically what this is
Faster than ever, no launcher redraws, multitasking is better... why?
Because it works with the lowmemorykiller and letting it work the way it's meant to work.
Also, because of the rearrangement, it works the same on all roms!
The problem with using minfree tweakers like AMM or AKMO is that it doesn't work the same on all roms.
Secondary apps may be in slot 3 on some roms but in slot 5 in others!
That's why you hear people comment "I tried AKMO but it didn't do anything..."
Most likely it didn't do anything because the apps weren't sitting where they were expected to be.
Upon installation, V6 SuperCharger will first clean up any previous supercharging so none of your files get cluttered.
But if you toggle between Hard To Kill and BulletProof launchers, the memory adjustments aren't affected.
So you can leave your minfrees at stock/default settings and apply the Hard To Kill Launcher and still get the OOM Grouping/Priority fixes.
So if you love your ROMs memory settings, just try the HTK Launcher/OOM Fix... you won't regret it
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I don't think this will work with the fascinate "If you have /system/etc/rootfs/init.mapphone_umts.rc"... the fascinate is CDMA. This will only work with AT&T or T-mobile as they are UMTS
vudiff said:
I don't think this will work with the fascinate "If you have /system/etc/rootfs/init.mapphone_umts.rc"... the fascinate is CDMA. This will only work with AT&T or T-mobile as they are UMTS
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but it does work on the HTC Eris, which is on the Verizon network??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11178955&postcount=2
vudiff said:
I don't think this will work with the fascinate "If you have /system/etc/rootfs/init.mapphone_umts.rc"... the fascinate is CDMA. This will only work with AT&T or T-mobile as they are UMTS
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and if you have an init.d folder and if not it uses data folder.
It won't work on ipods tho
Izeltokatl said:
but it does work on the HTC Eris, which is on the Verizon network??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11178955&postcount=2
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Yes it is on verizon's network. I'm guessing that file isn't doing anything on CDMA phones.
I'm not a dev but I do know my networks. I work for Alcatel-Lucent in which we translate & make the cell cabinet,towers, & customer networks communicate. We are the people that brought you verizons 3g & LTE technology. Currently working on AT&T's UMTS & LTE networks. Yes i am the inside inside man. We provide the Base Station and most routers and make them communicate for the providers... Sprint, verizon/alltel, nTelos, cricket, metroPCS, etc...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V74huEaaf4
Ya but can you read instructions?
And what's that got to do with oom groupings, priorities, minfrees home launcher and androids lowmemorykiller?
Sent from my Milestone Powered by my V6 SuperCharger
zeppelinrox said:
Ya but can you read instructions?
And what's that got to do with oom groupings, priorities, minfrees home launcher and androids lowmemorykiller?
Sent from my Milestone Powered by my V6 SuperCharger
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Wow... chill out dude. I saw umts at the end of the file and simply was just saying that these phones are cdma. I already said I'm not a dev. Comments like yours make people not even want to comment. I'm not new to roms, rooting, etc... I started out with the original droid, then D2 and I've had the fascinate ever since it came out. Rooted & started out with superclean when it became available. Geeze
Yes well in post 5 I pointed out that it also looks for the init.d folder and if not an alternative method by using the data folder.
Has nothing to do with networks.
It has to do with which file or method is used to implement the tweaks depending on what options are available.
zeppelinrox said:
Yes well in post 5 I pointed out that it also looks for the init.d folder and if not an alternative method by using the data folder.
Has nothing to do with networks.
It has to do with which file or method is used to implement the tweaks depending on what options are available.
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OK got ya. I didn't mean to start an argument! Sorry that I misunderstood. I learned something new today... and thank you for breaking it down for me
Ah that's ok...
Btw... cool job lol
Sent from my Milestone Powered by my V6 SuperCharger
Yeah I tried this on a friends Fascinate and it dropped dead, wouldnt boot up.
Had to Odin up and restore back to stock.
I noticed my friends swype keyboard would lag even after restore back to stock.
thus the reason to try this script in the first place.The fasciante is decent lil bugger.
Its too bad I sing its praises on Evo thought, it really kicks butt.
im using this right now on my fascinate running miui 1.9.9 and its working flawlessly... three 3g tweak also works great. thanks zeppelinrox
It works with the fascinate, I use it constantly, and it doesn't need to be ported, the author stated it should work on nearly any device/ROM setup. Just get Script Manager app from the market, open app, go to settings, browse as root, then run the V6 script. It will give instructions as it runs.
Sent via Morse code.
Just ran the script last night, while it took me a while to fidget with it and figure out what option was best for me I can't believe that cm7 could be any smoother but there is a definite difference after running the script, with no lag, or home screen redraw, my phone is as smooth if not smoother at 1GHz.then it was at 1.5GHz before the script...just want to say it was painless easy and really made a huge difference...thanks a lot!
On a side note the battery calibration that was linked in the op does seem to work but I had to figure out when to pull the battery since the original instructions where on the milestone, either way great job and thanks again, I'll run this script after any rom I go to from here on out!
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efan450 said:
Just ran the script last night, while it took me a while to fidget with it and figure out what option was best for me I can't believe that cm7 could be any smoother but there is a definite difference after running the script, with no lag, or home screen redraw, my phone is as smooth if not smoother at 1GHz.then it was at 1.5GHz before the script...just want to say it was painless easy and really made a huge difference...thanks a lot!
On a side note the battery calibration that was linked in the op does seem to work but I had to figure out when to pull the battery since the original instructions where on the milestone, either way great job and thanks again, I'll run this script after any rom I go to from here on out!
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I ran it last night as well. I cannot really tell a difference. What setting are you running?
Option 8 and then option 12, set to browse root, and run as root in the first config screen...afterwords reboot and run option 1...it will tell you if your home screen was easy to kill or not and gives you a list of minfrees...I had to downgrade my busy box to 1.18.2.to get everything working
Edit: I used script manager to run the script and then put the widget on my home screen to easily access it...if you run option 1 and it says your home screen is bullet proof then it did work...I seem to get much better 3g connectivity and better download speeds.
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Do we need them?
Newer phones has them build in their firmware and have more memory
But the 2010 models like the Htc desire etc needs those cleaning tools
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pressytcn said:
Newer phones has them build in their firmware and have more memory
But the 2010 models like the Htc desire etc needs those cleaning tools
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I herd that it slows your phone because you kill like chunks of the android software and you make it load back up again so its slower and makes your battery die quicker.
I can't explain in technical terms, but basically the Android OS is different than say Windows on your PC, where you don't really want to have a bunch of processes running in the background. It actually optimizes performance to have it loaded in the memory, and by killing it you only make your phone work that much harder to either load it when you want to use it, or when it continues to load itself into the memory a short time later.
When I first got my smartphone, someone recommended Advanced Task Killer to me as a battery saving tool, but I never noticed any improved battery life. If anything, the constant checking and killing of tasks made me use the phone more and drained the battery faster.
I'm using go launcher and it has the option of killing running tasks, and once you do, you can leave the phone untouched and come back to it 20 mins later, all those programs are back up and running, so I don't even bother with killing them, just leave it all running. I've never noticed an improvement with battery life either, or noticed any lag with a bunch of apps running in the background.
Best thing you can do is debloat, that way there are fewer apps running, that you don't need anyway.
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Best thing you can do is debloat, that way there are fewer apps running, that you don't need anyway.
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First off most task killers are just bs.
The real way to stop tasks from sucking up your memory and or slowing your phone is exactly what andy said.
Dl titanium back up pro, and "freeze" or (with caution of course)
Remove them.
Most apps restart any ways so it a waste.
Check your permissions, see what your also are doing im the background, and shut off what you don't like or want.
I use go launcher/locker(sorry about my lil ics joke...lol) as well and that task killer is just like the others...worthless. lol.
I have found that the task killer by gannicus is ok, but again what's the point when **** just reboots ..
Hope that helps
Well, I use htcs task manager to close the browser because if even if you click back to exit it, it still stays open, but that's pretty much it
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I use
1. Go launcher which is instead of sense
2. Go TaskManager widget. it is awesome.
3. root uninstaller to delete the crap.
4. Autorun manager to stop the apps that I don't need them to run when I reboot.
5. There is another one is more simple than the first one . it's startup manager
Note: 3,4, and 5 starts when you reboot so to stop that use Autorun manager to stop startup manager and use startup manager to stop Autorun manager and root uninstaller.
Sometimes you don't like some apps to be deleted but they are annoying because they start with the system, so use 4 and 5
I use both of them because each one has its own ability.
Do Not Shut the apps that are important to not brick your phone.
Use it on your own risk
I can explain in technical terms...you should never use them...task killers kill tasks which android OS will spend time restarting, by doing this, your battery and CPU will get used more and you will actually find your phone laggier and running out of battery faster....
I have lots of applications on my phone that need to have their permissions modified...
But I use them to see what crapware is starting itself for no good reason.. Sorry deja but if your app loss itself for more than 2 minutes twice a day?... It's crapware...
My phone my rules... I don't want something running unless I request it... I'm willing to wait for it to load if its goona run smoothly... this is the standard tradeoff quick load or smooth running... But if I haven't used WhatsApp in 3 days why does it run constantly regardless of settings??.. It's crapware
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Normally when I run into issues, I google them or find answers all over the interweb or older threads. But this time, I've ran into a wall. I just flashed the Infinity rom by Nims and it comes with Lagfree and TurboBoost preinstalled. Phone runs smoothly as hell even when clocked at 480. Now the problem is, it kills random apps to free up RAM. Including HeyWire and WhatsApp which I need and use a lot.
Is there a way to exclude them from getting killed? I honestly don't know what to do this time since its not a task killer and I can't put them on exclude.
This might not help, but why not adjusting the minfree values?
Nitro Lag Nullifier......might help or not .
Herpderp Defy.
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Nitro Lag Nullifier......might help or not .
Herpderp Defy.
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Isn't that another script? The Infinity rom already comes preloaded with LagFree and TurboBoost. Won't more scripts mess up performance?
It's a feature in V6 supercharger by zeppelinrox
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The Nitro Lag Nullifier just uses build.prop and init.rc
Herpderp Defy.
Lucky you got the replies.. I asked same question some days before. I searched internet a lot. But found Google didn't provide such a facility in it's APIs. Activity Stack in Android is automatically handled, can't be altered by APP. If it'd possible. Imagine What would happen when some n00b locks all apps in his Android device!
Here all you can do is, reduce the priority how frequent your app should be killed. In other words, exactly what adeklipse said.
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Lucky you got the replies.. I asked same question some days before. I searched internet a lot. But found Google didn't provide such a facility in it's APIs. Activity Stack in Android is automatically handled, can't be altered by APP. If it'd possible. Imagine What would happen when some n00b locks all apps in his Android device!
Here all you can do is, reduce the priority how frequent your app should be killed. In other words, exactly what adeklipse said.
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Yeah. That's why I decided to ask. I rarely do. I solve all my stuff by my self and ask questions when I reach walls like these. But as for the minfree values, since they're scripts (Lagfree & Turboboost) can it be edited?
What if I delete the scripts and install Ram Manager instead? That app from the XDA developer. Anyone knows if its gonna be the same performance?
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But as for the minfree values, since they're scripts...
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Where did you hear that? MinFree are the "values" not the "Scripts". For "very" elaborated info I'd say google it. And Since they are values, the changes will be reverted automatically by the init.rc call in your boot image at the boot time of your phone, until and unless you set them to load itself on boot time by app like "MinFree Manager". I have used "MinFree Manager" app & that app itself said if anything goes wrong, reboot should restore back the values.
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What if I delete the scripts and install Ram Manager instead? That app from the XDA developer. Anyone knows if its gonna be the same performance?
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I have been using RAM Manager & what I observed is, it changed permanently the way android handled the RAM. Even if you reboot, the changes were there. & it "really" did what it said. I changed the way it handled the RAM frequently.
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Where did you hear that? MinFree are the "values" not the "Scripts". For "very" elaborated info I'd say google it. And Since they are values, the changes will be reverted automatically by the init.rc call in your boot image at the boot time of your phone, until and unless you set them to load itself on boot time by app like "MinFree Manager". I have used "MinFree Manager" app & that app itself said if anything goes wrong, reboot should restore back the values.
I have been using RAM Manager & what I observed is, it changed permanently the way android handled the RAM. Even if you reboot, the changes were there. & it "really" did what it said. I changed the way it handled the RAM frequently.
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No, no, no. I meant since they're scripts, meaning LagFree and TurboBoost. And about ram manager, is it safe to assume I can uninstall the 2 scripts and replace them with that app? Do you think performance will be the same? Lol I'm sorry I'm asking so much. These scripts came preloaded with the rom and even when I flashed them manually in ICS Final, they didn't work this good by freeing so much ram.
About to just make a backup, delete them and install ram manager.
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No, no, no. I meant since they're scripts, meaning LagFree and TurboBoost. And about ram manager, is it safe to assume I can uninstall the 2 scripts and replace them with that app? Do you think performance will be the same? Lol I'm sorry I'm asking so much. These scripts came preloaded with the rom and even when I flashed them manually in ICS Final, they didn't work this good by freeing so much ram.
About to just make a backup, delete them and install ram manager.
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I am always kinda thrifty in applying these mods cause I know I "have to" use my SGA for long time. What I always felt insecure about was kernels. So I haven't flashed any custom kernels ever. & therefore, I have not tried those scripts either. So I can't tell you difference between them and RAM manager's performance. But what I assume, deleting scripts and just trying RAM Manager's performance wouldn't hurt you, if you've gone this far.. would it? Share your experience here.
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I am always kinda thrifty in applying these mods cause I know I "have to" use my SGA for long time. What I always felt insecure about was kernels. So I haven't flashed any custom kernels ever. & therefore, I have not tried those scripts either. So I can't tell you difference between them and RAM manager's performance. But what I assume, deleting scripts and just trying RAM Manager's performance wouldn't hurt you, if you've gone this far.. would it? Share your experience here.
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Yeah, I did it. But I left some files from the TurboBoost script for the touchscreen. It was acting like its old self without it so I flashed it again and left some files. That's the only mod I have on my phone.
Got Ram Manager set on Balance (Multi Task). Working great for now. Haven't found any problems
I remember reading when the pre orders started being delivered, that the multitasking could be improved by tweaking the settings in the Auto Memory Manager portion of Rom Toolbox app.
I don't remember what the values should be changed to, and am having a hard time locating it again.
Does anyone know anything about this?
I'm new to it but what I did was add the apps & widgets I have, to be ignored.
Using that same app.
Not sure how wise this was but so far so good.
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I remember reading when the pre orders started being delivered, that the multitasking could be improved by tweaking the settings in the Auto Memory Manager portion of Rom Toolbox app.
I don't remember what the values should be changed to, and am having a hard time locating it again.
Does anyone know anything about this?
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I have read that 10-12-20-40-40-64 works well. I do know that the numbers must get larger as you go along.