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I found this on a French site, by changing the registry you get an extra camera mode that adds current position in the EXIF part of the file!
You need to edit the key : HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\Camera\P9 change from 0 to 1 (P9 is the Geocoding profile).
No need to soft reset, just go into the camera and set to Geocode mode (see capture)
The files get stored in My Documents/POI (maybe so they appear in Tom Tom?).
Anybody know of cool ways to use this feature? Flickr? Googlemaps?
Sorry if this has been covered already!
Oh hell yes.....
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Oh hell yes.....
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You mean it HAS been covered? could not find anything thru search....
I could never get it to work, it says the GPS is searching, but when I look at the photos I cant find any GPS coordinate data.
Anyone else actually try it?
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I think Madhadder meant "oh hell yes I can't believe its so easy to add this feature you just made my week".
I'd like to say:
Oh hell yes!
GuardianZX9 said:
I could never get it to work, it says the GPS is searching, but when I look at the photos I cant find any GPS coordinate data.
Anyone else actually try it?
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I think the data is included in the file itself in a special zone that holds info on model of camera etc.
There are some applications that "place" the pictures on maps, I do not know much about this but want to find out! The ideal would be to place them on googlemaps...
techntrek said:
I think Madhadder meant "oh hell yes I can't believe its so easy to add this feature you just made my week".
I'd like to say:
Oh hell yes!
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Good but as much as I would love to take credit for this find, it is in fact from this site : http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=85924&whichpage=3#641517
8th post down.
edeplano said:
I found this on a French site, by changing the registry you get an extra camera mode that adds current position in the EXIF part of the file!
You need to edit the key : HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\Camera\P9 change from 0 to 1 (P9 is the Geocoding profile).
No need to soft reset, just go into the camera and set to Geocode mode (see capture)
The files get stored in My Documents/POI (maybe so they appear in Tom Tom?).
Anybody know of cool ways to use this feature? Flickr? Googlemaps?
Sorry if this has been covered already!
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there are so many line items under that folder. Could you be more specific?
thanks..
I assume that the GPS must be turned on to give the correct position prior to taking the picture, am I right?
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there are so many line items under that folder. Could you be more specific?
thanks..
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P1-P9 are profiles for different camera modes. You'll notice that the "Enable" key is 0 in Profile 9. Change it to 1 and you should be good.
Also found this info on GPS passion, and was going to share, but never found the time....
I did the hack on my Ameo last weekend, and played around with it a little. It is ofcourse quite an amazing feature, and it does impress people that sees it, but given the quality of the camera in the Ameo, I'm not sure how usefull it will turn out to be, I would be a little embarassed to upload any Ameopics to Google at least.
Here is what I've found out sofar, if someone finds that useful.
When you start Camera, you get a new option when you choose your Photomode, called GPS. - This starts up the GPS automatically, and once it gets a fix you are ready to shoot.
The pics you then take are stored in /my documents/my Poi - which is created.
These pics will then have the GPS position included in the Exif data.
Haven't yet found a PPC software that is capable of reading these data, but if you read them with your ordinary pc, you can input them into google Maps (on PPC for instance) and it will take you there.
Picassa will read the data, and you can input them manually into your mapsoftware (the format is: xx yy' zz'' aa bb' cc'') but I would recommend "Panorado Flyer 1.2" which is a great free and small application. It gives you some new options in the context menu, so you just right-click your Gpspicture and choose "show location in Google Maps" - and it opens up Google Earth and takes you there.
There was some discussion on the precission of the GPS Data, actually on this very site I'm pretty sure, maybe the kaiser section(?) , someone noticed the last 2 decimals recorded for latitude and longitude allways were the same, so the precision was less than 100 meters, but the good news is this is not the case with our Athenas, they are very accurate!
I don't think I'm allowed to distribute Panorado Flyer here, but here is the link for you to download it yourself.
Hopefully someone will make a similar app. for PPC, which would make this feature so much more useful.
Here is a link to the free version: http://www.photo-freeware.net/panorado-flyer.php
And here is the commercial and probably more functional version (did not try it, but there is a demo): http://www.panorado.com/en/index.htm
I went to a birthdayparty this week and took a GPSpic inside an apartment on the 7. floor to demonstrate to all how brilliant the Ameo is, got a fix and shot a pic. The pic stinks, but if you want to try Pandora, you should be able to rightclick it and fly over here, even if I downscaled it....
And I just tried myself, and the GPS data did not survive the upload so it does not work, sorry.
Here is a shot of what Panorado rteads for that pic:
works well here
Actually you can use this format directly into Google earth, which is simpler I think:
55,685278 12,584445
Ok Midget, on my setup the GPS data was lost when I d'loaded my own pic from the post.
Also had to try it out on my old uni with an external GPS, but it doesn't have the P9 option, could that be because of the old HTC Camera version (3,00 build 21424) or must it have an internal GPS?
Anyone got the newer Camera version (like the one from the Ameo WM6 - 4.01 build 27598)?
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P1-P9 are profiles for different camera modes. You'll notice that the "Enable" key is 0 in Profile 9. Change it to 1 and you should be good.
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oh!..ok..i'll try it right away..
thanks
The new mode came right up when I made the registry change. Can someone confirm where the data is stored? Seems there are 2 places mentioned here.
That's freakin awesome! Possibly rates as my top feature of the moment! Good Hack!
And @ techntrek - it goes into my \microdrive\my documents\my poi\
Ace!
I have using panorado software but the error for several pictures on same place (1 square meter) is very large, some hundreds of meters...
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I have using panorado software but the error for several pictures on same place (1 square meter) is very large, some hundreds of meters...
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That is what you will also get when you use googlemap. It can be hundreds of meters off.
I read recently that US goverment wants to decrease the accuracy of GPS. I wonder if it is the result of this project that I noticed that the inaccuracy has been magnified lately.
I'm testing some Navigator Software on my Athena
all the software is running from SD card ( 4gb)
Here is my experience:
TOMTOM 7 good but it is a little slow when turning / roundabout
IGO8 graphics is very good but the arrow seems be left behind the real position.... i see that for adding POI i need to change the layout and i dont know how to find a 640x480 layout....
The ROM is the standard HTC WM6
Any experience news ??
Is it possible to increase the framerate in tomtom ???
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I'm testing some Navigator Software on my Athena
all the software is running from SD card ( 4gb)
Here is my experience:
TOMTOM 7 good but it is a little slow when turning / roundabout
IGO8 graphics is very good but the arrow seems be left behind the real position.... i see that for adding POI i need to change the layout and i dont know how to find a 640x480 layout....
The ROM is the standard HTC WM6
Any experience news ??
Is it possible to increase the framerate in tomtom ???
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I have used both these software and do not experience the problems that you described. However, I run them off the microdrive rather than storage card.
Just like me.
It's better to have them at the MicroDrive ( including the maps ).
If you use SKTools you can see that the read/write values are higher at the MicroDrive than the miniSD.
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I'm testing some Navigator Software on my Athena
all the software is running from SD card ( 4gb)
Here is my experience:
TOMTOM 7 good but it is a little slow when turning / roundabout
IGO8 graphics is very good but the arrow seems be left behind the real position.... i see that for adding POI i need to change the layout and i dont know how to find a 640x480 layout....
The ROM is the standard HTC WM6
Any experience news ??
Is it possible to increase the framerate in tomtom ???
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well i use tomtom7 but i cooked it into my rom and it definitely made it a little faster
I found Telenav to give the best directions and POIs. you have to have a data connection, but better than TomTom and iGuidance...
But CP7 is best
it's tomtom for me, installed in the microdrive complete with the maps. and coupled with eaglesteve's previous input on the best gps settings. haven't had any issues for the past 3 months.
cheers
I rank these software in this order
Best on top:
TT7
IGO 2006
IGO8
TT6
CP7
I've tested TT6-TT7, IGO8
TT7 is the best IMHO. I use navigation SW mainly to have speed traps alert and with IGO isn't easy to add speed traps ad POI.
I installed it on SD, may be I lose some speed but I save a lot of power
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I've tested TT6-TT7, IGO8
TT7 is the best IMHO. I use navigation SW mainly to have speed traps alert and with IGO isn't easy to add speed traps ad POI.
I installed it on SD, may be I lose some speed but I save a lot of power
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Besides superior overspeeding warning features, it also allow user to update road and share it with others.
I installed on MD. No concern with power because in the car, I always with my device charged.
Unlike eaglesteve and sergiopi, I use navigation software mainly for navigation, speedcameras are a bonus (and free with CP)
For navigation, especially contact integration, CP makes TT look primative IMHO
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Unlike eaglesteve and sergiopi, I use navigation software mainly for navigation, speedcameras are a bonus (and free with CP)
For navigation, especially contact integration, CP makes TT look primative IMHO
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Disagree, sorry.
Speed camera is not speed warning. They are different.
1) In TT7, the legal speed limit of the road is kept, and if you travel above that speed, you get warning.
2) Speed camera, in another thing. In TT, there are the fixed speed camera and mobile speed camera. I think the mobile location speed camera is subscription base, and is optional. In CP7, there is only fixed location speed camera.
3) Finally, there is the red light camera, which warns you not to dash the red light at traffic junction.
4) TT7 also warns if we are near a school zone. In Australia, school zone's maximum, speed is 40 km/h at selected time only.
Integration with contact is so basic that we don't mention it. It's nothing to shout about. It's just taken for granted. iGO has it. Tom Tom has it. All contact database appears on the navigation software. If you make changes to the contact database, the navigation get the udpated address also.
In TT, if you choose "Navigate To" in the main menu, there is an item called "Contact", with exactly the icon as our Contact Application. Choosing that will bring up only your contact with addresses. The contact list is sorted in alphabetical order to faciliate locating them. Clicking on it will reveal the detail address. You can also use the FIND button to find the contact more quickly if your list is long. What else would we want that TT7 is not having in this regards?
One of the features of TT7 is to provide an onscreen button. If I see a speed camera that is not in the database, I can press that button while my car is at that coordinate. When the trip is over, I can go back and put in the details of the change I want to make. This can be used to correct the map, put in new POI, etc without affecting your driving. You do the actual update after the trip.
There are so many other features which are only seen in TT7. I was once a die hard iGO user ( and before that a die hard Copilot user), but now I'm completely won over to TT7. I'm not associated with TT in anyway, just like I was'tn associated with iGO or Copilot. I share what I think is the best to whomever want the best. Today, my top choice is TT7. Tommorrow? Who knows? May be Copilot 8. I have no blind allegiance to any software. If it is the best, it is my choice. I'm willing to be convinced that there are better software than TT7 out there now.
Speedcameras are not an issue for me, I have only ever been caught for speeding once (luckily I'd just slowed down so I was only doing 94MPH) and that was by a video camera in a police car - TomTom would not have alerted me to that.
The contacts in tomTom6 (I must admit I have not seen 7) is so clunmsy and slow I would have reached my destination before finding them - CP7 just uses outlook contacts and IMHO is just a lot better and I use it most of the time.
The interface of CP7, especially on the Athena is, again IMHO, a lot more user friendly than TT and allowing others to track me is useful so my g/f can see where I am.
I think we want different things from navigation software - i wouldn't rate TT at all and love CP - for you it's the other way round.
Guess it's lucky for the makers that we're not all the same!
sergiopi said:
I've tested TT6-TT7, IGO8
TT7 is the best IMHO. I use navigation SW mainly to have speed traps alert and with IGO isn't easy to add speed traps ad POI.
I installed it on SD, may be I lose some speed but I save a lot of power
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Does anyone know when TT7 will be officially available? It's not on their website.
sergiopi said:
I've tested TT6-TT7, IGO8
TT7 is the best IMHO. I use navigation SW mainly to have speed traps alert and with IGO isn't easy to add speed traps ad POI.
I installed it on SD, may be I lose some speed but I save a lot of power
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I agree with you on this, I also installed on SD to save power. I actually delete my microdirve and never reformatted it. It was not reliable so I had no reason to have available for anything. I am wondering after not using the for while does it get better or reliable, may be I should format on my next reboot
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Does anyone know when TT7 will be officially available? It's not on their website.
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Here is some information on TT7 http://www.theunwired.net/?item=available-tomtom-releases-tomtom-7-20-maps-for-the-o2-xda-diamond
Guys, what about Garmin Mobile XT?
Al936 said:
Guys, what about Garmin Mobile XT?
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Apparently some people like it - mainly in the US I believe.
Choice of navigation s/ware does seem to depend on your location!
Al936 said:
Guys, what about Garmin Mobile XT?
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Tell us what do you like about it please. I'm open minded.
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I'm open minded.
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hehe - I hope I am too but reviews like this http://www.coolsmartphone.com/article768.html and others I've seen put me off, although I've not tried it myself.
Just to declare what some people might think a conflict of interest:
I bought CoPilot when it first came out on the SmartPhone - well, 1 month after it did, because someone bought it then got a company car with built in Sat nav so I got it cheap (another thing CP does well is transfer between devices). That was V5, I then upgraded to V6 and I think, all things being equal I would have prefered TT6 for my purposes.
I then beta tested CP7 so disn't pay for it but if I had the choice of which to buy TT6 or CP7 it would definatly be CP7. I have not seen TT7 but don't believe it is that much different from TT6?
Lots of people in the UK like iGo8 but Garmin XT and Route 66 (again popular in the US) are not that popular.
In the US you have to buy the maps of the whole US for CP7 which does make it wuite expensive and hence not as popoular as some cheaper options and although speedcameras are improved in CP7 it is one area TT still beats it but, as I've said, that is not the most important feature for me.
Different people want different things and the availability of maps and other s/ware in your area will all affect your decision, but for me CO7 wins hands down.
So far....
I have the VZ 6800 using Valhallas gps cab and for google maps it works GREAT, knows right where i am moves with me ect. However when i fire up tomtom or visualgps it cant seem to pinpoint my location. in fact the standard divation in visual is usualy in the millions of feet. any ideas whats causing this? Both programs SEE the gps and satalites fine but cant pinpoint me. Thanks
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I have the VZ 6800 using Valhallas gps cab and for google maps it works GREAT, knows right where i am moves with me ect. However when i fire up tomtom or visualgps it cant seem to pinpoint my location. in fact the standard divation in visual is usualy in the millions of feet. any ideas whats causing this? Both programs SEE the gps and satellites fine but cant pinpoint me. Thanks
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Your right. The thread that covers the application explains the fix. Its becuase those apps are access the comport still instead of the Windows Mobile daemon(?) for GPS. You need to install a third party app that will grab the de-obfuscated data and redirect it to a soft comport that these apps will use. The program that was recommend was called Franson GPS gate. It will take the data and reroutes it to another "Com port"
All of the details are in the Adapter thread. Check it out around page 18 or so...
I got it working great for me but its just too much crap to get GPS when you can flash to a custom ROM and not have to worry about two third party apps.
Eitherway, good luck.
Custom roms are great, i've used them almost since I bought the 6800.If I want verizon to upgrade me to a better phone, I need to log complaints against the stock rom. using these little tricks keeps the phone serviceable at any given time while affording me a semi "custom" rom feel that I have grown accustomed to.
any sugestions
i cant get the gps to wirk in tomtom still even using gps gate so could anyone recomend a good rom i would love to keep all the functions of the stock wm6.1 but have gps features as well.
grs10251 said:
i cant get the gps to wirk in tomtom still even using gps gate so could anyone recomend a good rom i would love to keep all the functions of the stock wm6.1 but have gps features as well.
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What happens?
Even using gps gate the gps doesnt lock on my position. i get 5 to 8 satalites but then cant pinpoint where i am. There is a huge standared diviation when i look up my location upward of 100000 feet. google maps uses the same gps and port but knows exactly where i am.
I found the navigon mobile software to work quite well. Acquire it as you see fit. Mostly works with European maps but US are available. Im using Mobile Navigator 6.XX. cant remember. Got screwed by verizon and bought iPhone. but i will still offer advice. After contract is up if verizon can shape up i can get an android capable phone if they offer it.
Greetings all,
Yes, I have searched...
Is there an Android app that functions like MSVC only a little better? MSVC is a standalone application that requires NO carrier bandwidth to perform it's duties. I am considering a switch to android away from WM6.x. I have found MSVC useful on WM and don't want to loose this kind of capability. Again, I am looking for a standalone app that will not use any service outside the phone (except the connection to the BT earpiece of course). All the 'apps' I have found when searching appear to use Google or other services that, while powerful, force more bandwidth consumption($$) among other things.
Hopefully,
Peter
Cyberon voice command is the only one I'm aware of.
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Actually it's not the only one. Try Vlingo which is default application used in Samsung Galaxy II. Works pretty good and better than Cyberon, much better
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.vlingo.client&feature=search_result
Bluenote73 thanks, but as I recall cyberon requires some Google service - indicating to me that it is not standalone...
Emt thanks also but again, Vlingo also seems to rely on network services. This from a review:
The first thing to note is that the application needs network access for faster processing of voice commands. The data usage is quiet low averaging around 1MB for over 150 voice commands.
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There are times I need to rely on functions in my phone even if there is no cell service. Only a standalone App will fulfill this requirement. Yes, it may be that the data used is small but thankfully, 1 or .1 still does not equal 0!
Thanks,
Peter
Well, it works fine without data connection. Just try it out as you won't find anything better at the moment!
emt:
Glad to hear it! I will certainly try it. The devil is in the details with these things and sadly, precious few want to spend any time on them.
Thanks for your input.
Peter
You're welcome
Well, m1c4d0, I tried and it doesn't work! It will only if wi-fi is connected (I am avoiding a data plan -opted out on my account -ATM) and when I turn wi-fi off I have no VC. WiFi on = VC works.
This is disappointing. MSVC was far from perfect but was functional - for me anyway - and that on a device with far less power. I used it on both the Tilt and the Fuse.
Sadly,
Peter
I absolutely love, love, love the Google satellite view in the Navigational GPS app. The whole app really is awesome. I'll probably never use my Tomtom again.
BUT! Unlike my Tomtom which can calculate a set of directions locally on the device the S4 appears to have Google do the calculation on their servers and transmit the info via Internet connection. That's a real problem when you're in an area that has poor service. Navigation becomes totally nonfunctional.
The GPS navigation will work through an area of no service if you start in an area with service so the app can download a set of directions. The problems come if you need to start your journey in an area with no service, or do like I did and exit the navigation app to do other things like make a phone call from a backwoods gas station. When I tried to restart the navigation app it kept waiting to download the directions set from google which wasn't going to happen out there. Lucky for me I remembered enough to get me back to an area with 3G where the service restored functionality to the navigation app. Lesson learned.
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I absolutely love, love, love the Google satellite view in the Navigational GPS app. The whole app really is awesome. I'll probably never use my Tomtom again.
BUT! Unlike my Tomtom which can calculate a set of directions locally on the device the S4 appears to have Google do the calculation on their servers and transmit the info via Internet connection. That's a real problem when you're in an area that has poor service. Navigation becomes totally nonfunctional.
The GPS navigation will work through an area of no service if you start in an area with service so the app can download a set of directions. The problems come if you need to start your journey in an area with no service, or do like I did and exit the navigation app to do other things like make a phone call from a backwoods gas station. When I tried to restart the navigation app it kept waiting to download the directions set from google which wasn't going to happen out there. Lucky for me I remembered enough to get me back to an area with 3G where the service restored functionality to the navigation app. Lesson learned.
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A preplanned area where you will be navigating can be cached.
It caches the map and directions so you can navigate through an area of no service but it loses the cached data when you exit the app. There is no cached data when starting a trip from an area of no service.
If I'm missing something please do tell. I'd love to know.
0reo said:
It caches the map and directions so you can navigate through an area of no service but it loses the cached data when you exit the app. There is no cached data when starting a trip from an area of no service.
If I'm missing something please do tell. I'd love to know.
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Google Maps > Menu Key > Make available offline
Google Maps app =/= Navigation app.
Although you do offer a good way to at least have a map on hand.
This is why I also have CoPilot navigation. Completely offline!
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This behavior is not unique to the Galaxy S4, nor is it new. Google Navigation has always been (and almost certainly will remain) a client-server type app that does the "heavy lifting" back at Google HQ. That's not a design flaw, it's a design choice--this approach perfectly serves the needs of some huge fraction of users some huge percentage of the time, without unduly consuming the resources of the phone.
In today's world, if you're in a car in the US, you're almost always within range of a cell tower with data service. Of course, if you're not within range of a cell tower, you're probably far from civilization and that's when it'd be most helpful to have some navigational assistance...
So there's still a place for the self-contained navigators like a TomTom or similar. That market niche is simply much smaller than it was about 5 years ago before Google Maps / Navigation was ubiquitous.
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This behavior is not unique to the Galaxy S4, nor is it new. Google Navigation has always been (and almost certainly will remain) a client-server type app that does the "heavy lifting" back at Google HQ. That's not a design flaw, it's a design choice--this approach perfectly serves the needs of some huge fraction of users some huge percentage of the time, without unduly consuming the resources of the phone.
In today's world, if you're in a car in the US, you're almost always within range of a cell tower with data service. Of course, if you're not within range of a cell tower, you're probably far from civilization and that's when it'd be most helpful to have some navigational assistance...
So there's still a place for the self-contained navigators like a TomTom or similar. That market niche is simply much smaller than it was about 5 years ago before Google Maps / Navigation was ubiquitous.
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I understand its not unique or new but I certainly hope the route calculation becomes a client side option soon. It made sense to do it server side a couple phone generations ago when device processing power was limited but not so anymore. My S4 will run circles around any tomtom or garmin both in processing power as well as gps accuracy not to mention never having to do manual gps fix updates and map updates. The standalone navigational gps is going to go the way of the point and shoot camera. Its just a matter of time.
What you're calling a design choice may have been choice two years ago. Today it is a horrible flaw. There are vast areas of well traveled road that get no service around here (eg. anywhere in the mountains.) Google needs to pull their head out and recognize (or someone else will do it [be]for[e] them.) Sooner the better for them and us.
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I understand its not unique or new but I certainly hope the route calculation becomes a client side option soon. It made sense to do it server side a couple phone generations ago when device processing power was limited but not so anymore. My S4 will run circles around any tomtom or garmin both in processing power as well as gps accuracy not to mention never having to do manual gps fix updates and map updates. The standalone navigational gps is going to go the way of the point and shoot camera. Its just a matter of time.
What you're calling a design choice may have been choice two years ago. Today it is a horrible flaw. There are vast areas of well traveled road that get no service around here (eg. anywhere in the mountains.) Google needs to pull their head out and recognize (or someone else will do it [be]for[e] them.) Sooner the better for them and us.
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Like someone said before, you can download the maps offline for whatever area you need that won't have service.
Google isn't stupid. This is why they introduced this feature. It's not that the phone doesn't have the processing power; having the entire country stored on your phone would take up tons of storage.
There are other GPS applications (in the Play Store) that do this I'm pretty sure, and that is also why standalone GPS units exist. Google doesn't have to worry about losing anything to anyone. For a huge majority of users, Google Maps works perfectly fine.
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Like someone said before, you can download the maps offline for whatever area you need that won't have service.
Google isn't stupid. This is why they introduced this feature. It's not that the phone doesn't have the processing power; having the entire country stored on your phone would take up tons of storage.
There are other GPS applications (in the Play Store) that do this I'm pretty sure, and that is also why standalone GPS units exist. Google doesn't have to worry about losing anything to anyone. For a huge majority of users, Google Maps works perfectly fine.
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On my tomtom the map of the entire US (just roads, not sat images) is about one GB. Not prohibitive by any stretch.
And unless I'm still missing something you can't save maps in Navigation app. Only in Google Maps app which is different and not nearly as good for use while driving.
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On my tomtom the map of the entire US (just roads, not sat images) is about one GB. Not prohibitive by any stretch.
And unless I'm still missing something you can't save maps in Navigation app. Only in Google Maps app which is different and not nearly as good for use while driving.
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I'm almost 100% positive that the Navigation app and Google Maps are the same application. Just like the other app whose name I can't recall that helps you find restaurants, etc. It's all run through Google Maps. The initial interface may be different, but they're the same thing.
I always just search my destination in Maps, then hit navigate. That takes you to the same exact thing the Navigation shortcut will eventually bring you to. I have never really used the offline feature nor do I use the Navigation shortcut, so I can't really instruct you on how to do it through either method. I remember reading the reviews when Google introduced the feature, though, so it definitely works.
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Next time, just leave Navigation running in the background while you make your call. When you hang up, pull down the status bar and tap the Navigation icon & continue on your way.
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Google Maps app =/= Navigation app.
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Except they are. Exact same apk file. Uninstall maps... Navigation disappears.
The navigation icon is basically a maps shortcut.
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Whatever is happening in the back end, I just don't see the functionality in the front end. I'll play with it more today and see if I'm missing a way.
Surprised no one mentioned the Sygic app in this thread yet -- I tried it a while back and it was pretty decent for a standalone navigation app that you can download maps to your SD card and have the app use those. It is relatively expensive since I last looked though.
I used to have a Garmin Navigation app on my Blackberry Storm. It looked and worked just like my actual Garmin GPS. All map and routing data was on the phone (<2GB) and it worked even with no cell or data signal at all.
I don't know why they don't offer the same thing as an Android app. The full City Navigator North America database is less than 2GB.
stuartv said:
I used to have a Garmin Navigation app on my Blackberry Storm. It looked and worked just like my actual Garmin GPS. All map and routing data was on the phone (<2GB) and it worked even with no cell or data signal at all.
I don't know why they don't offer the same thing as an Android app. The full City Navigator North America database is less than 2GB.
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I think they decided to not kill their company. They are trying to stay out of the race to zero. Google could kill off every other navigation company in one swoop if they wanted to by offering a free full blown offline maps for android and ios...I think they just don't want the regulatory scrutiny. And they wouldn't be able to collect data on your habits as easily, lol. NSA might get pissed.
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Google Maps > Menu Key > Make available offline
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Does anyone know of a way to make the caching of maps cache a much bigger area than it currently does?
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i understand the op's concern. the main issue being when there is no connection to the internet you cannot get directions. even if you cache a map offline the navigation still won't provide you directions, you can only browse the map area and see where you currently are on that cached map. the reason it works this way is because when you choose directions or navigation in maps google calculates the directions from your location to the point selected. it's not something done within the application, but dynamically via google's servers.
this is almost never an issue for me, except in the rare occasion when i've been traveling and in a tunnel or some remote location where internet connection isn't available. in those cases your best bet is to calculate your directions ahead of time and email them to yourself. you can also cache a map of that area so you can at least browse it offline.
if google ever offers offline navigation/directions then every other mapping service can kiss their company goodbye.
Google built the best. I'd pay for the ability to calculate a route offline.