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Hey everbody,
i'm updating rom's on my touch pro, and i'm really surprised by the new sense 2.5 it's true that i choose it for the new hometab and the beauty mix of clock&wheater, but that sucks really, new htc messaging don't work, take more than 5sec to syncronise with inbox in sms& mails. most of the apps freeze, nothing is stable, so i'll come back to the tael rom without the "new" rom of sense 2.5!! i think that sense should me more stable and more faster. that's the worst rom i've seen and i ve tested the energy and tael rom.
am I alone to find that sense 2.5 sucks?
good night
Wrong topic and who cares of your opinion, don't gotta be negative. Don't like it don't use it. In my opinion I love it even though there's no landscape. It's sexy and looks nice and nothing freezes for me, freezing of apps is because of Windows Mobile not Manila 2.5
redtiger said:
Hey everbody,
i'm updating rom's on my touch pro, and i'm really surprised by the new sense 2.5 it's true that i choose it for the new hometab and the beauty mix of clock&wheater, but that sucks really, new htc messaging don't work, take more than 5sec to syncronise with inbox in sms& mails. most of the apps freeze, nothing is stable, so i'll come back to the tael rom without the "new" rom of sense 2.5!! i think that sense should me more stable and more faster. that's the worst rom i've seen and i ve tested the energy and tael rom.
am I alone to find that sense 2.5 sucks?
good night
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i think before u start complaining is to try other ROMs that run 2.5 AFIAK even though u tried an EnergyROM try the LATEST EnergyROM it has a very stable and fast Sense 2.5 built in IMHO
and for your issues with SMS messaging recommend to search for Zenyee's disable htc messaging app
and it seems ur stability issues can lead to a bad flash OR you installed something to slow down ur phone, reflash and run the ROM without installing any apps, install ONE app at a time and check to see which one leads to ur crashes
install NeoS2007 graphics drivers, search for it and ull notice a significant difference in stability and smoothness
and if you honestly think that those are the worst ROMs why dont you go ahead and try to make your own??
the community is here for development and the love of designing things. if you don't like something, don't use it.
it's like art, if u don't like something, you don't have to buy it. if you do, buy the print (or go for the original).
How can I see if i got HTC-Sense 2.5 or TF3d1 / 2 ?
Broman400 said:
Wrong topic and who cares of your opinion, don't gotta be negative. Don't like it don't use it. In my opinion I love it even though there's no landscape. It's sexy and looks nice and nothing freezes for me, freezing of apps is because of Windows Mobile not Manila 2.5
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There is a landscape fix Here
XERO_Racer said:
i think before u start complaining is to try other ROMs that run 2.5 AFIAK even though u tried an EnergyROM try the LATEST EnergyROM it has a very stable and fast Sense 2.5 built in IMHO
and for your issues with SMS messaging recommend to search for Zenyee's disable htc messaging app
and it seems ur stability issues can lead to a bad flash OR you installed something to slow down ur phone, reflash and run the ROM without installing any apps, install ONE app at a time and check to see which one leads to ur crashes
install NeoS2007 graphics drivers, search for it and ull notice a significant difference in stability and smoothness
and if you honestly think that those are the worst ROMs why dont you go ahead and try to make your own??
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Exactly very good point !
You should try develooping and programming yourself before criticizing others' hardwork.
and XERO i think you should try this graphics fix works better than neo
here
theknub said:
the community is here for development and the love of designing things. if you don't like something, don't use it.
it's like art, if u don't like something, you don't have to buy it. if you do, buy the print (or go for the original).
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Exactly I agree.
licht77 said:
How can I see if i got HTC-Sense 2.5 or TF3d1 / 2 ?
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If you have a clock + weather on the home page and if you have a twitter tab in ur slider then its SENSE2.5=manila2.5=TF3D 2.5.
If you have just the clock on the main page then it is TF3D2.1=Manila2.1
I Request MODs to close this thread.
i don't think that there is something wrong with this thread. I didn't like the new Sense either, not because the chef did a bad job but because i simply didn't like it.
i think the worst part about sense is that there is no Programs tab anymore and you can only put 6 shortcuts to the Home screen. The concept itself is good but 6 shortcuts is not enough...at least for me. i also had some performance issues when it wasn't perfectly smooth on Touch Pro. Pry because it wasn't designed for it.
other than that i liked it, and i wanna say thanks to all chefs here for doing this tremendous job!
azik said:
i don't think that there is something wrong with this thread. I didn't like the new Sense either, not because the chef did a bad job but because i simply didn't like it.
i think the worst part about sense is that there is no Programs tab anymore and you can only put 6 shortcuts to the Home screen. The concept itself is good but 6 shortcuts is not enough...at least for me. i also had some performance issues when it wasn't perfectly smooth on Touch Pro. Pry because it wasn't designed for it.
other than that i liked it, and i wanna say thanks to all chefs here for doing this tremendous job!
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But then one should not open a thread and start speaking against a development if you don't like it don't use it.
Others like it they use it.
Stupid post
HTC sense was developed for the more advanced next gen phones.
azik said:
i don't think that there is something wrong with this thread. I didn't like the new Sense either, not because the chef did a bad job but because i simply didn't like it.
i think the worst part about sense is that there is no Programs tab anymore and you can only put 6 shortcuts to the Home screen. The concept itself is good but 6 shortcuts is not enough...at least for me. i also had some performance issues when it wasn't perfectly smooth on Touch Pro. Pry because it wasn't designed for it.
other than that i liked it, and i wanna say thanks to all chefs here for doing this tremendous job!
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Azik. Google up Max Ultimate... allows up to 20 shortcuts. Personally, it's the only way I was able to use 2.5.
I think the original poster was just stating his opinion that he didn't like Sense 2.5. But you guys are acting like Apple Fanboys going ballistic and coming out so rude...
I don't like it sense 2.5 either...
As much as this forum is to praise people's work, we can't be doing ONLY that all the time. sometimes the work sucks and needs to be said that way.
I don't think its chef's fault or anything and I appreciate the time each chef puts in. But these days the forum is full of latest cutting edge software THAT SIMPLY DOES NOT WORK WELL with tweaking, fixing bugs, do this and do that,etc...
I have gone back to older stable ROMs. I have the luxury of trying out these things because of the hard and good work of the chefs, the forum and the user community. Thank you all.
Have a nice day, everyone.
I love sense 2.5
It rocks! Maybe not for u but it is great for me
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and XERO i think you should try this graphics fix works better than neo here
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Anyone know if this graphics fix speeds up Sense and SMS? Tried NRG's ROM with Sense, loved it, but a little too slow on my FUZE. Switched back to NRG's Touch Flo 2.1 ROM.
You guys who are complaining about 2.5 do realise that its not actually intended to work on the Touch Pro don't you? The version that we are luckily able to run has been ported over from different phones (leo iirc?) which has more power available to it, and a different resolution, amongst many other differences.
So we are not able to run an official HTC final-polished-ready-to-go version of it, and we NEVER will..we get a hacked together port put together by some very talented people on these boards.
So you can justifyably say that current implementations of it has bugs, is unstable, has missing/overlapping icons/graphics or speed issues..but these are not HTC Sense issues.
Personally I really like it but don't run it day to day because of a few issues with the new messenging client when you have more than a few text messages (takes forever to load!), BUT I like sense itself..the questions of if its stable or not, and if its a good bit of software are completely different, and its not fair on HTC or the guys on this board to mix them up..
Just my 2c..
redtiger said:
Hey everbody,
i'm updating rom's on my touch pro, and i'm really surprised by the new sense 2.5 it's true that i choose it for the new hometab and the beauty mix of clock&wheater, but that sucks really, new htc messaging don't work, take more than 5sec to syncronise with inbox in sms& mails. most of the apps freeze, nothing is stable, so i'll come back to the tael rom without the "new" rom of sense 2.5!! i think that sense should me more stable and more faster. that's the worst rom i've seen and i ve tested the energy and tael rom.
am I alone to find that sense 2.5 sucks?
good night
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Sense doesn't suck. It's your phone. It wasn't designed to run on it for a reason...
LEO DUSK Rocks
This my second day on the "Leo" Sense 2.5 Dusk and it "ROCKS" NRGZ28 roms are great. Waiting to see what he does next!
madnish30 said:
But then one should not open a thread and start speaking against a development if you don't like it don't use it.
Others like it they use it.
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Aren't discussion boards for discussing stuff? what is the point of having a forum for if people do not post their opinions and views on things?
Nobody is speaking against bad development. The topic is about HTC Sense nothing more nothing less.
Discussion
azik said:
Aren't discussion boards for discussing stuff? what is the point of having a forum for if people do not post their opinions and views on things?
Nobody is speaking against bad development. The topic is about HTC Sense nothing more nothing less.
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I second this. Also to the first poster, you can try a hard reset or re flash a new rom. I have had some issues with 2.5 myself and lately the new 2.5 roms seem much faster and stable. The chefs put a lot of work into making a rom, so I can see why they get upset,but on the same note its nice to vent about things when something is not working. When I had problems with 2.5 I decided to stick with 2.1 until recently , and now I really like 2.5. I am going to flash a 2.1 probably later today and see which I like best, but I am willing to bet its the 2.5 roms. 2.5+MaxManila=Bliss
lyu370 said:
Anyone know if this graphics fix speeds up Sense and SMS? Tried NRG's ROM with Sense, loved it, but a little too slow on my FUZE. Switched back to NRG's Touch Flo 2.1 ROM.
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Yes it speeds up the whole Manile working all together the the GFx Boost or NEO GFx.
Imagine HTC sense on x10.....! Is this possible?
nothing can withstand repeated attacks of the mind!
that being said i'm sure it'll be a while but someone will manage it
Well.. I think that it should be possible. It works like a theme kinda, so the widgets won't work with the timescape thingy probably.
Funkstar82 said:
Imagine HTC sense on x10.....! Is this possible?
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Why always HTC Sense !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is so boring !!
killerskincanoe said:
nothing can withstand repeated attacks of the mind!
that being said i'm sure it'll be a while but someone will manage it
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Pretty much this.l
I am not sure sense would be a better alternative to what timescape/mediascape become at the loving hands of the smart guys here. I see a lot of potential there for some pretty cool stuff. Most websites that have reviewed the device seem to either like the racheal stuff or see some potential with some fixes. Obviously its an unknown as to where folks take it but I am not ready to throw it under the bus just yet. As to the question itself it took a fair while for sense to find its way onto other devices like the droid so I would expect something similar as far as time frames goes.
htc sense what??????? ahhh will people stop going on about that sense thing! there are enough devices with this on so i for one will not be interested in using the damn thing on ma x10. its all over xda for most android handsets and its just boring..............all the chefs all working on same ****! in hero forum all roms based on sense dumps and all bugged up! i love that whole vanilla feel ...... senseless!
X10
Hi,
This is my first post on XDA. Just bought my first Android phone, Sony Ericsson X10. I used to have Iphone, but made the change because i want more flexiblity. So far very happy with my choice!
Is there any rumors on new development on the X10? Like rom update? or other cool stuff for X10?
yes..htc It is so boring !!
Hey guys, Just been looking through the release forum and im just trying
to figure out why all the gingerbread Roms / Skins are looking like the IPHONE? .. Is there any reason why? or is it just the "look" At the moment? ..
Cause i don't like the Iphone but i want Gingerbread
badd1e said:
Hey guys, Just been looking through the release forum and im just trying
to figure out why all the gingerbread Roms / Skins are looking like the IPHONE? .. Is there any reason why? or is it just the "look" At the moment? ..
Cause i don't like the Iphone but i want Gingerbread
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you will be looking at the MIUI based roms. look instead for the AOSP or CyanogenMod based roms for a normal GB look. Try Wolfbreak or Jerpelea.....
Tim.
Ooo.. i probably didnt notice that! Thanks for quick reply..
is there a real difference in any of them?
Like you said MIUI? And AOSP? CyanogenMod ? just all have there own little tweaks about them?
they are all based on the same underlying system, but operate in different ways. Think of MIUI / AOSP / CyanogenMod as skins and it might make it a bit easier for you. They all do the same things, but look different doing them. AOSP is plain old vanilla Android, CyanogenMod is a highly customised version of AOSP and Miui is more of an iPhone clone. hope that helps
edit: the above is a very simplified view, but it gets the idea across
Thanks!
Last Question is.. some of these mods come with something called "spare parts, 1,2,3,4".. What are these? just Extra mods you can choose to install if you like?
spare parts is basically a pile of tweaks and mods that let you further customise your phone....see screenshots for examples. its got things like statusbar tweaks, launcher options and all sorts of little things. to be honest tho, ive never used them....
OK so extreme props to guys like joelz that are actually trying to port sense 3.5 to the evo 3d... but why is there so few attempts ? the evo 4g has it and its great ... yet the evo 3d doesnt, why does it seem like all the rom attention still goes out to the evo 4g when its more than obsolete
temeyers said:
OK so extreme props to guys like joelz that are actually trying to port sense 3.5 to the evo 3d... but why is there so few attempts ? the evo 4g has it and its great ... yet the evo 3d doesnt, why does it seem like all the rom attention still goes out to the evo 4g when its more than obsolete
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because most people think its retarded looking? and there is little interest in it for users.
t3project said:
because most people think its retarded looking? and there is little interest in it for users.
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T3project is there a way to port the widgets from the 3.5 to our 3.0 roms. I really like the mail mms market and music quick settings in the home screen of the 3.5 ROM.
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retarded looking ?
its far from retarded looking the carousel runs smoother the widgets are much better and it runs great ...
Few attempts are made because Sense 3.5 is hideous looking.
Two out of place buttons on your homescreen with a bar of widgets on the left? Absolutely atrocious. It doesn't even deserve the .5 increment in build strings, as it is no way any sort of improvement over Sense 3.0. The underlining framework may indeed deserve the increase, but the appearance sure as hell doesn't. It should have been called Sense 3.0 lite for women.
If you don't like it don't use it
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interesting viewpoint
sense 3.5 is awesome looking man ... the two buttons is smart its way better than 3.0s bar across the bottom eating up useless space for no good reason other than to look like your typical trash smartphone ... its more unique and as for the 4 bars on the left side ... thats a widget remove it easy enough on that one ... like he said if you dont like it dont use it ... but overall it is much smoother running ... and there are no good roms for the evo 3d ... they all apear as stock or stripped down to nothing neat at all ... Joelz rom for the bliss 3.5 port will be the **** because for once that developer is at least trying something unique instead of focusing on what every other developer is doing ... basically themed 2.3.4 roms
freeza
in no way am i pointing fingers at the frevo rom but in my personal opinion i dont like it its stripped to nothingness ... it just makes it look like a samsung bas model phone ... now some people in fact alot of people love that so in no way am i judging because you have made alot of people happy with your hard work ... serious props for that ... but some people like change and some people like sense ... you seem to prefer removing all the spiffy **** in return for performance and thats understandable .. but it does show your taste in roms differs greatly and your opinion because a bit null and void in this topic because sense flat out isnt your cup of tea at all ... i do have friends who absolutly love your rom so i commend you for all the users you have made very happy you are by far a great dev, but like i said not your cup of tea here
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why does it seem like all the rom attention still goes out to the evo 4g when its more than obsolete
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The 4g has always had tons of dev support. And it's far from obsolete, I may have traded up to a 3D, but the 4G is still a very capable phone.
I played with a sense 3.5 rom on my friend's thunderbolt, it's smoother and snapper than sense 3.0 on my 3D. Tough to say if it's worth the effort, but it would be nice to have the option. The reasons for not developing this do make sense tho.
I think its because developers are already in too deep with their current roms, which some are still far from done. & like most of the other comments posted, its not appealing. Its not that bad looking, but none the less not the best.
If there's someone that's not on one of the already popular sense roms, they are on AOSP. There's just no focus towards 3.5 right now because other things are in demand.
The OG Evo has it because they can focus on things that hasn't been done. I mean that phone is pushing on its second year in the game, what else do you expect?
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true and the og evo is still by far a bad ass phone ... main complaint being no one cares much about the evo 3d ... i mean really i have a developer model with stock 2.3.4 that hasnt been pushed by sprint yet ... im yet to see a rom that is better than my stock 2.3.4 every rom i try is a let down because some great feature just isnt there ... the stock 2.3.4 for the e3d is pretty nice and very stable ... i hope someone out there can correct me and point me to a good rom that isnt themed out to uber gayness i dont want some rom that makes my phone look like satan or an orange peel i mean really ...
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If you don't like it don't use it
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I'm not, there was a question in the OP, and I answered it. Did you expect no one to answer the question, and to have a bunch of Sense 3.5 loving people in here talking about it?
temeyers said:
sense 3.5 is awesome looking man ... the two buttons is smart its way better than 3.0s bar across the bottom eating up useless space for no good reason other than to look like your typical trash smartphone ... its more unique and as for the 4 bars on the left side ... thats a widget remove it easy enough on that one ... like he said if you dont like it dont use it ... but overall it is much smoother running ... and there are no good roms for the evo 3d ... they all apear as stock or stripped down to nothing neat at all ... Joelz rom for the bliss 3.5 port will be the **** because for once that developer is at least trying something unique instead of focusing on what every other developer is doing ... basically themed 2.3.4 roms
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Most of the devs had nothing to work with when the EVO 3D got root. That is why there are 'themed' 2.3.4 ROMs, and we still have nothing to work with that is as good as Sense. AOSP is the ONLY other alternative, which in turn birthed MIUI. Nobody would dare try and port a crappy TouchWhiz UI to the EVO 3D. What else is there?
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in no way am i pointing fingers at the frevo rom but in my personal opinion i dont like it its stripped to nothingness ... it just makes it look like a samsung bas model phone ... now some people in fact alot of people love that so in no way am i judging because you have made alot of people happy with your hard work ... serious props for that ... but some people like change and some people like sense ... you seem to prefer removing all the spiffy **** in return for performance and thats understandable .. but it does show your taste in roms differs greatly and your opinion because a bit null and void in this topic because sense flat out isnt your cup of tea at all ... i do have friends who absolutly love your rom so i commend you for all the users you have made very happy you are by far a great dev, but like i said not your cup of tea here
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It's okay, I'm not taking offense, and you're right--I do enjoy minimalism, but to a certain extent. You have to understand that in removing the Sense launcher and widgets, that's all that's really done. The Launcher (Rosie), while being a decent launcher for the average person, is VERY VERY limited in terms of customization. I assumed, and that was probably a bad idea considering how popular my/sense removed ROMs are in comparison to full Sense, that more people would feel the same. You can achieve almost identically what Sense has from a Senseless ROM with a bit of time and effort. LauncherPro easily outclasses HTC's Launcher in terms of customization, performance, and looks. You can easily skin just about any launcher to look like Sense if you really wanted to. The only thing HTC has going for its launcher is its widgets, which unfortunately aren't able to be used with other launchers. Other than that, I truly don't see the appeal so many people have with sticking to what HTC thinks you need to stick to with its Launcher. There are countless mods that try and improve upon it, but in the end it's still limited. So, that says to me that I'm the kind of person who enjoys as little constraints in customizing my phone as possible.
htc widgets
thats super lame that the htc widgets cant be used elsewhere because your right they are really nice
freeza
by the way ive never given your rom a chance ... sorry i probly should
temeyers said:
by the way ive never given your rom a chance ... sorry i probly should
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It's all good man, we like what we like. I didn't really expect too many to jump on it. I mainly created it for myself, but figured the community could maybe benefit from it.
Boot Manager allows me to try out pretty much any ROM now a days without having to do anything to mine, so I'm good to go when I need to see what other people have accomplished, which still do this day, isn't very much in comparison to mine. Good thing about these Sense ROMs is that anything you want from one can easily be put into another.
boot manager ?
heres a dumb one ... whats boot manager
temeyers said:
heres a dumb one ... whats boot manager
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Search for it in the market, it allows you to have (i think) up to 4 rom ready to boot.
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damn thanks a ton i feel dumb this app is the bees knees item 9 !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1269564
[DEV][WIP][ROM]Bliss 3.5 Port[Sept.20][2.3.4]
yes sense 2.5 old school one from winmo.
kinda miss that look want to have that back.
i have a feeling it might not be possible to port it to android since it was never on android.
but if anyone could point me to something similar with the tabs and pages and all.
maybe a launcher replacement.
bump. no one at all?