Hey guys
Does HTC Titan have a gorilla glass ? Because I googl'd and found mixed results
It's confirmed from GG's site.
However,I was reading a review which said it has GG display
http://www.unwiredview.com/2011/11/09/htc-titan-review/
"Under the Gorilla Glass is a 4.7-inch Super LCD display. This is the largest screen on any Windows Phone device on the market. "
So can any of you guys who own this phone confirm whether it has GG or not ?
Don't think so.. If i'm wrong, then Gorilla Glass isn't very good! I have some scratches on my screen just after 1.5 month of use.. My old HD2 hasn't a single one and I've been using that for 2 years..
no gorilla glass
imho unwiredview is pretty unreliable on quite a few bits of news...
I'm sure its tempered glass
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/htc
Doensn't have Titan on the list, but the HD7. and my HD7 has 2 deep scratch somehow after 2 months of use... so???
Well,I wish this screen had some kinda protection :-S
Strike_Eagle ,you mentioned that it has GG(in your review on this site)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1309175
"I would say it is good. Not the best but it is good-perfect.
It is Gorilla Glass. "
Honestly,I don't care much about GG,I just want it to be something that doesn't scratch
I emailed HTC about this, and they confirmed that it does not have gorilla glass.
I understand you would like to know if the HTC Titan uses Gorilla Glass, and I will be happy to discuss this with you. In our commitment to quality, HTC pioneered the use of shatter-proof glass in smartphones. At one time, Corning was the only manufacturer and we used their product, Gorilla Glass. Since then, many manufactures have developed and advanced shatter-proof glass technology, allowing HTC to use the highest quality cutting edge shatterproof glass in our smartphones while keeping costs low for our customers. Unfortunately, we would not be able to advise as to which specific manufacturer or product was used for the screen in your particular Titan. Rest assured, however, that it's screen is made of shatter-proof glass.
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hmm,so it's not gorilla glass but shatter proof instead ?
Are they kinda advertising or is it really shatter proof ?
Makes you go hmmm?
I'll still slap a screen protector on it to help anyway. I had the Zagg on my Focus, and it worked good for me. I ordered it today for half-off cyber Monday deal.
When i had my TP2, i installed a screen protector on it but when i got an iPhone 4,i didn't put anything on it and after a year of usage, it doesn't have any scratch whatsoever.(And it wasnt gorilla glass either) so if the Titan's screen is as scratchless as iPhone's then I wont even bother getting a screen protector.
Anyway,here's what slashgear reports(in their Titan's review)
"Titan is one of the company’s most cohesive, solid handsets of the past year. The matte-finish black metal casing and bevelled toughened Gorilla Glass fascia come together beautifully, and the various logos and branding are discrete and thankfully chrome-free."
MY comment at the other thread is based on several review article online, because there isn't a way for me to test it.
But if HD7 has Gorilla Glass, then the quality of GG is super low.
my HD7 catched up very few light scartch after only 2 days of using...
If you look at the Gorilla glass website, it lists the Surround as having it, but not others. I have the surround, and it does feel like gorilla glass. And i received a reply from htc regarding the scratch resistance of the new glass they are using instead of the gorilla glass.
The glass we currently use is comparable to Gorilla Glass in regards to scratch resistance and shatter resistance. Unfortunately, we do not have any specifics about the glass and all we know is that it is comparable to Gorilla Glass in its features. I do apologize that I cannot give you more information about this, but I do hope this was helpful.
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I would just like to state this: HTC said themselves that the HTC Titan DOES NOT use gorilla glass.
Ok now I've never had a gorilla glass as mostly AMOLED is what I used - hence no gorilla there.
This is my first capacitive non-AMOLED i.e. capacitive LCD (here S-LCD)... I am sure we are not losing anything with absence of the 'gorilla'. The screen feels much scratch resistant unless you knife it! I've dropped my phone 3 times on the road and pavement - no scratch on the screen. A little scratch near the back-bottom (invisible).
drupad2drupad said:
Ok now I've never had a gorilla glass as mostly AMOLED is what I used - hence no gorilla there.
This is my first capacitive non-AMOLED i.e. capacitive LCD (here S-LCD)... I am sure we are not losing anything with absence of the 'gorilla'. The screen feels much scratch resistant unless you knife it! I've dropped my phone 3 times on the road and pavement - no scratch on the screen. A little scratch near the back-bottom (invisible).
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Thanks,seems like a great screen then
Scratches?
Whether it's GG or not, sounds like at least 1 Titan owner already has some scratches. Which is too bad. I have the Zagg Invisible Shield on my Focus, and I just hate putting any screen cover over the beautiful glass. Plus I'm on my second Zagg already, and even the second one is peeling up around the edge. Just got my Titan, still in its box. I may go naked for a while.
Tempest790 said:
Makes you go hmmm?
I'll still slap a screen protector on it to help anyway. I had the Zagg on my Focus, and it worked good for me. I ordered it today for half-off cyber Monday deal.
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DId they (Zagg) ship your order? I too ordered their InvisibleSheild on cybermonday sale, but they never shipped it (even after a week). I ended up asking for a refund (via Paypal). Now I asked my local mall Zagg guy (no way related Zagg itself, but he sells their product) to get the sheilds. Good thing is he will process any replacements too. With Zagg.com you will need pay them full price, and get a replacement after you return old one. You will lose the shipping cost bothways.
"gorilla glass" is a product not a type of glass
I have a TITAN and the screen is pretty solid, so scratches after weeks and feels very hardened.
I'm pretty sure HTC is making the same thing on their own instead of purchasing from corning, but for legal reasons they cannot refer to it as "gorilla glass" because corning has a copyright on it. Question is who has the patent to the hardening process or not. Otherwise anybody is free to make glass this way, they just can't call it GG.
So for all intents and purposes I would say it has GG, but it's HTC's knock off version not the corning version. I could be wrong...
athix6 said:
I have a TITAN and the screen is pretty solid, so scratches after weeks and feels very hardened.
I'm pretty sure HTC is making the same thing on their own instead of purchasing from corning, but for legal reasons they cannot refer to it as "gorilla glass" because corning has a copyright on it. Question is who has the patent to the hardening process or not. Otherwise anybody is free to make glass this way, they just can't call it GG.
So for all intents and purposes I would say it has GG, but it's HTC's knock off version not the corning version. I could be wrong...
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They're in Taiwan. It's almost certainly some cheap Chinese, er Taiwanese knock-off of Gorilla Glass. Close but not quite as good. I'm still going to put a Zagg over my Titan to be safe. I actually got the easy install full body so maybe I won't be as inclined to drop it in the first place.
I'm biased towards zagg products so take this with a grain of salt.
I have had the titan since it came after the penny sale. I applied the zagg shield yesterday. When cleaning my screen, I noticed there was a micro-scratch! Invisible except for in a certain light and with the screen off, but scratched my my short time with it nonetheless.
I love zagg's invisible shield, and I think it will confer a few extra benefits for the titan:
1. The full body shield improves grip; less slippery, more secure in my hand. I know this was a concern for me, especially when trying to reach the back button using one hand.
2. I haven't had any issues personally with reception, but the full body shield prevents direct hand contact and thus should alleviate grip-of-death.
In general, the shield does an excellent job in protecting the phone. One of my issues with straight up glass is if my fingers contain any moisture whatsoever, unless my fingers are perfectly dry, I cannot smoothing swipe across the screen. Moisture increases the coefficient of friction on glass, and any greases or oils are clearly visible on glass. Oils/greases aren't as readily visible on the invisible shield as it is on just glass, and I find that I can just grease up my screen by rubbing it a little bit for a smoother experience.
Yes, the invisible shield does show signs of wear after perhaps 6months to a year of use, but with their lifetime warranty you can get a new set for a few dollars in shipping (Provided you mail back the original shield, via regular envelope even, no special packaging).
I would suggest using wrapsol screen and body shield. You don't get the orange peel effect that the zagg invisible shield gives you. I used the wrapsol screen protector on my surround since the day I got it over a year ago. It has not peeled up or scratched looks as good as the day I bought it.
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does the tp have gorilla glass or not ??
and any recomendation for screen garder
Some reviews say it does in fact have gorilla glass...
While I don't think its anywhere on HP website or gorilla glass support website...
Id get a screen protector anyways gorilla glass is somewhat a gimmick as all glass is easy to scrach and break... Gorilla glass is just a marketing tool imo and have scrached a few in my life
I only had my touchpad for a few days now and I bought a screen protector from Walmart (designed for the touchpad)
Forgot the name ill post it in a few mins...
The general consensus around the net is that it does, many reputable reviewers remark on it having gorilla glass, however these mostly consist of reviews done with pre-launch units that may be different in some regards to the mass-production touchpads.
I dont think HP nor Corning have officially stated that it has, my guess is that some touchpads may have it and others have similar glass.
At any rate, I tried out a screen protector for mine and ended up taking it off 10 minutes later due to a distinct difference in responsiveness and feel. I may have just got unlucky with a cheap one, and your generally better off with a screen protector anyhow
I got a Griffin from Walmart... its alot better than any other screen protector I've used...
And I've used alot on phones and my old ipad
I bruyant a screen protecteur of ipad and resize it
Thank you
I'm going with "not". My Nook Color, which has never seen a screen protector, remains scratch free after nearly a year and 5 kids abusing it. Within the first month, the kids managed to put a 1" scratch across the middle of the Touchpad. I've since bought screen protectors for it from Amazon.
Gorilla glass is just tough against shocks.... not scratches
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Whatever is on it, I have never felt a more slippery device in my life. Both front and back of this thing seem like they exude a lubricating oil that makes it impossible to remain in your hands or be fingerprint-free.
Absolutely crazy.
BoulderGeek said:
Whatever is on it, I have never felt a more slippery device in my life. Both front and back of this thing seem like they exude a lubricating oil that makes it impossible to remain in your hands or be fingerprint-free.
Absolutely crazy.
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I plan on buying a case for the Slippy factor
Just don't know which one to get :/
BoulderGeek said:
Whatever is on it, I have never felt a more slippery device in my life. Both front and back of this thing seem like they exude a lubricating oil that makes it impossible to remain in your hands or be fingerprint-free.
Absolutely crazy.
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The actual glass part is coated by HP with a clear solution making it easy to wipe the screen with any cloth, no liquids necessary. It is always so shiny and clean after I do a small wipe. I do also think it is Gorilla Glass, take a razor and try to scratch it . Then again, it IS glass .
So a few days ago I was in the accessories forum saying how the screen has gorilla glass and I'll complaining why people were buying screen protectors...guess I was wrong...well I don't know if it does or not...but the first day I got the phone I keyed the heck out of it (still 30 day grace period so i could exchange the phone) and there were NO SCRATCHES AT ALL...so I was happy!!! Still I would never put my phone in the same pocket as my keys or anything else, Just gotten used to over the years...
Today I found scratches on my screen...I don't even know where they came from...I have never dropped the phone...I have a case on there... Paid full price of almost 600 for the phone and I am mad...My two year old N1 has no scratches after two years of use with no screen protector or case....just don't understand how when I keyed the phone there were NO scratches and how the phone can get scratched...I rooted my phone...so I don't know if HTC will cover something like this...I do have the Tmobile insurance plan...what do you guys think I should do at this point??? they said they can exchange my phone for refurbished one for 5 bucks since I have the insurance...I'm not too big on getting refurbished things...have not had good experiences...the scratch is no sooo bad...but stilll have only had the phone for just over 4 weeks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uk9-yLxQgA
EVEN IF ITS GORILLA GLASS GET A SCREEN PROTECTOR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNojdER7-Sk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKPg6tPCxHM
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So a few days ago I was in the accessories forum saying how the screen has gorilla glass and I'll complaining why people were buying screen protectors...guess I was wrong...well I don't know if it does or not...but the first day I got the phone I keyed the heck out of it (still 30 day grace period so i could exchange the phone) and there were NO SCRATCHES AT ALL...so I was happy!!! Still I would never put my phone in the same pocket as my keys or anything else, Just gotten used to over the years...
Today I found scratches on my screen...I don't even know where they came from...I have never dropped the phone...I have a case on there... Paid full price of almost 600 for the phone and I am mad...My two year old N1 has no scratches after two years of use with no screen protector or case....just don't understand how when I keyed the phone there were NO scratches and how the phone can get scratched...I rooted my phone...so I don't know if HTC will cover something like this...I do have the Tmobile insurance plan...what do you guys think I should do at this point??? they said they can exchange my phone for refurbished one for 5 bucks since I have the insurance...I'm not too big on getting refurbished things...have not had good experiences...the scratch is no sooo bad...but stilll have only had the phone for just over 4 weeks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uk9-yLxQgA
EVEN IF ITS GORILLA GLASS GET A SCREEN PROTECTOR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNojdER7-Sk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKPg6tPCxHM
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get the refurbished.
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probably will get the refurbished.
after a little research this is what I found. I tested old N1, 3g slide and amaze...they all have some type of fortified glass, gorilla glass is just one type of glass which is probably the same as other types of fortified glass...NON of my phones scratched with hard key test...they all have some sort of fortified glass...I used to have a dell axim, which would scratch with a touch of a stylus...Gorilla glass has no advantage over other fortified glasses....It has just become a popular name...
Just wanted to mention...that fortified glass is stronger and much better and it IS IN OUR PHONES, doesn't matter if it is manufactured by corning or not.....BUT its not scratch proof...sand and rocks can scratch and even shatter it...the reason for this is that sand is very hard and glass is made of sand so glass cuts glass.
with that said...I have tried many screen protectors over the past on my old iphone and 3g slide...I absolutely hate ZAGG...Yes its tough, but it gives a sticky feeling and makes the screen very wavy looking you can tell its on there, I've also read that it interferes with HTC amazes touchscreen after a while it also starts peeling which collects dust etc..Just go and get yourself and very thin translucent screen protector such as boxwave thats very smooth to touch and very clear...it will be enough...remember nothing protects your phone from getting shattered...zagg is a little tougher than other screen protectors, but if your going to drop your phone and get it shattered nothing will protect it...
Thank you for reading my essay!!!
seansk said:
probably will get the refurbished.
after a little research this is what I found. I tested old N1, 3g slide and amaze...they all have some type of fortified glass, gorilla glass is just one type of glass which is probably the same as other types of fortified glass...NON of my phones scratched with hard key test...they all have some sort of fortified glass...I used to have a dell axim, which would scratch with a touch of a stylus...Gorilla glass has no advantage over other fortified glasses....It has just become a popular name...
Just wanted to mention...that fortified glass is stronger and much better and it IS IN OUR PHONES, doesn't matter if it is manufactured by corning or not.....BUT its not scratch proof...sand and rocks can scratch and even shatter it...the reason for this is that sand is very hard and glass is made of sand so glass cuts glass.
with that said...I have tried many screen protectors over the past on my old iphone and 3g slide...I absolutely hate ZAGG...Yes its tough, but it gives a sticky feeling and makes the screen very wavy looking you can tell its on there, I've also read that it interferes with HTC amazes touchscreen after a while it also starts peeling which collects dust etc..Just go and get yourself and very thin translucent screen protector such as boxwave thats very smooth to touch and very clear...it will be enough...remember nothing protects your phone from getting shattered...zagg is a little tougher than other screen protectors, but if your going to drop your phone and get it shattered nothing will protect it...
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Very well said. I was wondering why people were saying its like gorillia glass but not lol. its kind of like the beat audio concept, or Apple. Jaudio sound just as good as Beats but is more than half the price
are you the author of the amaze screen test youtube video?
Felinos11 said:
are you the author of the amaze screen test youtube video?
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no not me
im sorry to disappointed but where did you see that the amaze have gorilla glass? htc nor gorilla stated that it does!!!
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/htc
http://www.htc.com/us/products/amaze4g-tmobile?view=1-0&sort=0#tech-specs
He was just saying that people said it does...but he never agreed with them.he just stated that it has some sort of similar fortified glass as gorilla glass.
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gypsy214 said:
im sorry to disappointed but where did you see that the amaze have gorilla glass? htc nor gorilla stated that it does!!!
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/htc
http://www.htc.com/us/products/amaze4g-tmobile?view=1-0&sort=0#tech-specs
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Like I said before It doesn't matter if It's from corning company or not...Gorilla glass is a type of fortified glass just as our amaze has a fortified glass. Does not mean Gorilla glass is better than other fortified glasses...what I meant to say is that our phone is just as good as Gorilla glass which is a type of fortified glass...watch the videos i posted about scratch tests with gorilla glass and amazes glass...WHY DO PEOPLE GET SO HUNG UP ON THE NAME GORILLIA??? all phones at this point have some sort of fortified glass, if not gorilla another type, perhaps even better...the only reason people think gorilla is the best is because i'm guessing due to high advertisement and they might have been the first to come up with fortified glass.
"Samsung is authorized under a full license to make Gorilla Glass for everything from big screen tv's to mobiles. So why did they choose to use their own new Fortified glass? Because it's BETTER! .....especially if Samsung used their graphene technology coupled with their far superior Polymer Polyimide plastic base (same ingredients as Bullet Proof Plastic), that are both flexible and far more durable than any kind of glass! .....even Bullet Proof Glass!!!!" as someone stated in a forum
http://samsungcorning.com/
HTC might have the same type of deal now...they are not being specific about it!!!
Gorilla Glass is nothing but a brand put out by Corning.
It is not the "end all" of chemically hardened glass, not by a long shot.
I'm getting so sick of hearing about "Gorilla Glass", it is nothing new OR special. If you do not believe me, take a sheet of sandpaper to your Gorilla Glass screen, and then tell me how awesome Gorilla Glass is. Your screen will be a scratched unreadable mess, just like any other hardened glass product. look at the links i put up.
Too bad phone manufacturers have to look for every little "feature" they can market. If not for marketing, no one would know what "Gorilla Glass" even is.
Since the naming of corning gorilla became really popular and costs a lot of money phone manufacturers are putting their own or other made fortified glass on phones now....IT DOES NOT MEAN ITS INFERIOR...It might actually be better...no one really knows...I know that my 3g slide has gorilla glass and it smudges very easily, it also scratches too just like my amaze, in fact a little easier...so in some ways amazes fortified glass might be superior....this DOES NOT MEAN ITS SCRATCH PROOF...its just more resistant to scratch, just like gorilla glass is period.
It is possible that HTC uses Corning brand but is unable to release that information to the public because it would cost them money for the brand name advertised...to give the name of gorilla glass...No one knows for sure...By keeping the manufacturer of the amazes fortified glass htc can reduce this cost...it might or might not be by corning, and doesn't really matter as I have stated above.
Maybe treat this phone like the $600 piece of hardware it is? I honestly do not understand how many consumers treat these devices like ****. I have never dropped or scratched any high end phone....basic responsibility.
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TheSneakerWhore said:
Maybe treat this phone like the $600 piece of hardware it is? I honestly do not understand how many consumers treat these devices like ****. I have never dropped or scratched any high end phone....basic responsibility.
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I think its safe to say the op does, if he put a case on it. Just because you never scratched your device doesn't mean people that do treat there phones badly sometimes its just bad luck for some, but now a days most people expect there phones to not scratch since a lot of the high end phones have that built in. With that being said I protected my amaze since day one so if you invested in a case should have got a screen protector especially when you paid so much for it, when you buy at full price id protect any device I get.
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I think its safe to say the op does, if he put a case on it. Just because you never scratched your device doesn't mean people that do treat there phones badly sometimes its just bad luck for some, but now a days most people expect there phones to not scratch since a lot of the high end phones have that built in. With that being said I protected my amaze since day one so if you invested in a case should have got a screen protector especially when you paid so much for it, when you buy at full price id protect any device I get.
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I did protect my phone, i got a case, like I said I had my N1 without a screen protector for two years with no scratch...Also the reason I got a insurance plan that i pay 8 bucks a month for...I protect my investment...so I'll be getting a refurbished one for 5 bucks instead of paying full price for a new one...in the past 4 years I've only dropped my phone 4 times... I am very careful...I don't put it in the pocket with keys...I just have no idea where the scratch came from??? I ALWAYS handle my phone like its an egg lol...maybe my GF used it or something I don't know...
To get rid of the scratch google this method "toothpaste on mobile screen" it sounds silly but you will fix the scratch you have
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To get rid of the scratch google this method "toothpaste on mobile screen" it sounds silly but you will fix the scratch you have
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tried it already, no use...did it three times.... according to wikipedia HTC amaze has gorilla glass, according to corning website it doesn't, maybe corning just havn't updated their site yet...either way, my next phone is getting a screen protector.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_devices_with_Gorilla_Glass
ALSO THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT ACCORDING TO CORNING THEY DO NOT I REPEAT DO NOT RELEASE INFORMATION ON ALL DEVICES WITH GORILLA GLASS
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/faqs/all
DOES THIS LIST INCLUDE ALL DEVICES THAT HAVE GORILLA GLASS?
No, unfortunately, customer agreements prevent us from identifying all the devices that feature Gorilla Glass. This list shows all devices we can talk about. We’ll continue to update the list as customers allow us to share that information.
I hope this thread will put an end to the confusion about the glass used on the amaze and that no glass including gorilla glass is scratch proof or shatter resistant even if our phones have them.
Someone posted a video testing the amaze screen.
http:// http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uk9-yLxQgA
With the prices of top end cell phones you would think people would spend that little bit to get a case and screen protector. They are made for phones for a reason..
the gorilla glass is hard enough to withstand scratches, but the fingerprint or reflective coating will not. You will see the scratches when fog up screen or when it is oily.
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according to wikipedia HTC amaze has gorilla glass, according to corning website it doesn't, maybe corning just havn't updated their site yet
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You do understand that ANYBODY can write or edit a wikipedia article right? Wikipedia is not the bible. Come to think of it.....the bible isn't the bible either. But that's a whole nother topic.
Even if the screen was bullet proof, I will still put a screen protector on. Better to be safe then sorry!
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You do understand that ANYBODY can write or edit a wikipedia article right? Wikipedia is not the bible. Come to think of it.....the bible isn't the bible either. But that's a whole nother topic.
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forget wikipedia look at thie link from corning gorilla they specifically state that some phone might have gorilla but consumers won't know, due to agreement between corning and cellphone manufacturere, 5th question down from this link:
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/faqs/all
seansk said:
forget wikipedia look at thie link from corning gorilla they specifically state that some phone might have gorilla but consumers won't know, due to agreement between corning and cellphone manufacturere, 5th question down from this link:
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/faqs/all
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I don't understand why HTC would NOT want it known that the Amaze has Gorilla Glass. Gorilla Glass is generally seen as being a desireable asset. Why would they keep that secret? I can only assume that if they don't say they have it, then they don't have it. I could be wrong. I was wrong once before.
I can not believe my eyes when I see that I can actually see scratches on my screen. It only shows up when the screen is oily or fog up. When it is clean, they won't show even under direct light. That got to be some coating getting scratched. Can others provide some insights on that?
http://goo.gl/TmBeL
Check this video. It is possible to get scratch even if you got Gorilla glass.
(The Amaze is not gorilla glass but it is a reinforced glass that similar to Gorilla glass.)
It is better to have a cheap screen protector on the screen all the time.
yep, welcome to my world, I was being stupid and didn't get a cover for mine...My nexus one lasted for a year after I took off the screen cover with no scratches, I don't know what kind of glass HTC is using now, they say its fortified, it still doesn't mean scratch proof:
read this thread i made a while back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1422964&highlight=warning
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papcoz said:
http://goo.gl/TmBeL
Check this video. It is possible to get scratch even if you got Gorilla glass.
(The Amaze is not gorilla glass but it is a reinforced glass that similar to Gorilla glass.)
It is better to have a cheap screen protector on the screen all the time.
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we're not sure if amaze is gorilla glass or not, as gorilla says in their FAQ that they do not realease the information of all the phones that have gorilla glass on them...due to agreement between the sellers like HTC. It definitely is fortified glass of some sorts, but yea even gorilla glass gets scratched..
As someone who keeps a single phone for years, I never understood the mentality that says one should have a screen protector. Now hear me out: I understand that the screen protector is supposed to protect the screen from being scratched. If the purpose of not scratching the screen is purely aesthetic, then the screen protector is useless, if not so beyond useless that it becomes an aesthetic liability. Screen protectors are no where near as hard as the combination of glass and coatings that compose the screen itself. Across the useable life of the phone, the thin plastic of a screen protector is much more likely to accumulate scratches than the glass. And so in the end it comes to be that the people who are most concerned about preserving the aesthetics of a mint-condition phone have one that is shrouded by an ugly protective case and a screen protector covered in hundreds of scratches that would not otherwise register on the glass.
But more towards the original concern: whether or not the screen is Gorilla(TM) glass, a similar glass, regular glass, or even pure and impossibly cut diamond, the anti-fingerprint and -reflective coatings sitting atop would not benefit from their scratch-resistant properties. My screen also has this problem. It only shows up when there is significant oil or fingerprints on the screen. I find the latter much more annoying. So I constantly wipe the phone on my pants or sweater and it's back to normal.
mischivo said:
As someone who keeps a single phone for years, I never understood the mentality that says one should have a screen protector. Now hear me out: I understand that the screen protector is supposed to protect the screen from being scratched. If the purpose of not scratching the screen is purely aesthetic, then the screen protector is useless, if not so beyond useless that it becomes an aesthetic liability. Screen protectors are no where near as hard as the combination of glass and coatings that compose the screen itself. Across the useable life of the phone, the thin plastic of a screen protector is much more likely to accumulate scratches than the glass. And so in the end it comes to be that the people who are most concerned about preserving the aesthetics of a mint-condition phone have one that is shrouded by an ugly protective case and a screen protector covered in hundreds of scratches that would not otherwise register on the glass.
But more towards the original concern: whether or not the screen is Gorilla(TM) glass, a similar glass, regular glass, or even pure and impossibly cut diamond, the anti-fingerprint and -reflective coatings sitting atop would not benefit from their scratch-resistant properties. My screen also has this problem. It only shows up when there is significant oil or fingerprints on the screen. I find the latter much more annoying. So I constantly wipe the phone on my pants or sweater and it's back to normal.
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I can scratch the "coating" with a new walmart bag. It is just annoying. I am sure htc is using gorilla glass. They used it in their other products. Doesn't make sense they will drop out from that.
I would use a TPU case on the phone because the naked phone is too slippery to hold. Scratches won't affect performance, but dropping it will render the phone non functional.
mischivo said:
As someone who keeps a single phone for years, I never understood the mentality that says one should have a screen protector. Now hear me out: I understand that the screen protector is supposed to protect the screen from being scratched. If the purpose of not scratching the screen is purely aesthetic, then the screen protector is useless, if not so beyond useless that it becomes an aesthetic liability. Screen protectors are no where near as hard as the combination of glass and coatings that compose the screen itself. Across the useable life of the phone, the thin plastic of a screen protector is much more likely to accumulate scratches than the glass. And so in the end it comes to be that the people who are most concerned about preserving the aesthetics of a mint-condition phone have one that is shrouded by an ugly protective case and a screen protector covered in hundreds of scratches that would not otherwise register on the glass.
But more towards the original concern: whether or not the screen is Gorilla(TM) glass, a similar glass, regular glass, or even pure and impossibly cut diamond, the anti-fingerprint and -reflective coatings sitting atop would not benefit from their scratch-resistant properties. My screen also has this problem. It only shows up when there is significant oil or fingerprints on the screen. I find the latter much more annoying. So I constantly wipe the phone on my pants or sweater and it's back to normal.
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Point taken but sometimes deep scratches are not aesthetics, its just intrusive to your daily work, so you're better off getting a screen protector, than have a deep scratch in your screen that can cost you a couple of hundred bucks to fix
I had my Hero for about 2 years. I put a screen protector on it right away. After about a month the it looked abolutely terrible. It was marked and scratched and had bubbles. Ugly. I pulled the screen protector off and never put another one on. the screen was as nice the day I sold it as it was the day I bought it. I have no intention of putting a screen protector on my Amaze. The beauty of the screen is, after all, one of the reasons I chose this phone.
marleyfan61 said:
I had my Hero for about 2 years. I put a screen protector on it right away. After about a month the it looked abolutely terrible. It was marked and scratched and had bubbles. Ugly. I pulled the screen protector off and never put another one on. the screen was as nice the day I sold it as it was the day I bought it. I have no intention of putting a screen protector on my Amaze. The beauty of the screen is, after all, one of the reasons I chose this phone.
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Don't make the same mistake I did...you will regret it. I though the same at first. I mean my other phones did fine without screen protectors, but seems like for some reason this screen scratches quick...I'm very careful with my phone and I was suprised to see a deep scratch on it, I had no Idea how!!! just letting you know...I made the same exact mistake and posted the same thing in the accessories section, stated why people were putting screen protectors on their phones, and how it wasn't necessary.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1353158&highlight=screen&page=2
read post 16 and 18 made by me, i thought the same exact thing. even gorilla glass gets scratched , just spend 6 bucks get a boxwave one...at first I didn't like it, thought it was a bit sticky but after using it for a fewe days its smooth as the glass and you don't even notice it AT ALL NowI love it!!! It's exactly like the glass itself!!
Maybe you should mention that in the accessories thread, before people begin to think you still hate Boxwave and then they steer away from it.
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Maybe you should mention that in the accessories thread, before people begin to think you still hate Boxwave and then they steer away from it.
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you're right, I will
crazypotato said:
I can scratch the "coating" with a new walmart bag. It is just annoying. I am sure htc is using gorilla glass. They used it in their other products. Doesn't make sense they will drop out from that.
I would use a TPU case on the phone because the naked phone is too slippery to hold. Scratches won't affect performance, but dropping it will render the phone non functional.
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Your last is a very good point. I made an oversight. Drop protection cases are useful.
Hello, does anyone know if it's possible to replace the Gorilla Glass 2 on the 920 with Gorilla Glass 1 or 3? The glass on my Zune HD was amazing - after using it for years I couldn't get any scratches on it, but on both my 900 and 920 I got scratches within the first few weeks of using it. I've purchased a screen protector on Amazon, but wondering if there's any way to purchase a replacement touch screen for the 920 made of another type of glass? Installing it's not a problem, but are there any retailers who sell Gorilla Glass 1/3 screens for it, or do you have to be an OEM to get Gorilla Glass?
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Hello, does anyone know if it's possible to replace the Gorilla Glass 2 on the 920 with Gorilla Glass 1 or 3? The glass on my Zune HD was amazing - after using it for years I couldn't get any scratches on it, but on both my 900 and 920 I got scratches within the first few weeks of using it. I've purchased a screen protector on Amazon, but wondering if there's any way to purchase a replacement touch screen for the 920 made of another type of glass? Installing it's not a problem, but are there any retailers who sell Gorilla Glass 1/3 screens for it, or do you have to be an OEM to get Gorilla Glass?
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You can't do that because obviously nobody has produced one so far, and most likely never will...also, your problem is probably related to the fact that the Zune HD didn't have oleophobic coating, while instead modern phones with GG tend to have it. Probably the scratches you noticed aren't even on the glass itself but on the coating. When you manage to scratch the real glass you can tell it by the fact that you're able too actually feel the scratch with your fingernail. Don't get me wrong tho, GG can still be scratched, no matter what, it's just tougher in general, so it's all up to your luck if you decide to go naked. If you wanna be 100% safe a screen protector is the only option, while instead if you wanna keep the natural look and feel of the glass while still having some sort of scratch protection the best option IMHO is picking one of those flip cases, at least the screen won't slide against the stuff you may happen to have in your pockets. You can either pick the one from Nokia, the CP600, or some of the cases from Nillkin which are cheaper and very decent too. I've ordered one myself, but shipping from Asia takes ages. I'll definitely post a review as soon as I get it.
vnvman said:
You can't do that because obviously nobody has produced one so far, and most likely never will...also, your problem is probably related to the fact that the Zune HD didn't have oleophobic coating, while instead modern phones with GG tend to have it. Probably the scratches you noticed aren't even on the glass itself but on the coating. When you manage to scratch the real glass you can tell it by the fact that you're able too actually feel the scratch with your fingernail. Don't get me wrong tho, GG can still be scratched, no matter what, it's just tougher in general, so it's all up to your luck if you decide to go naked. If you wanna be 100% safe a screen protector is the only option, while instead if you wanna keep the natural look and feel of the glass while still having some sort of scratch protection the best option IMHO is picking one of those flip cases, at least the screen won't slide against the stuff you may happen to have in your pockets. You can either pick the one from Nokia, the CP600, or some of the cases from Nillkin which are cheaper and very decent too. I've ordered one myself, but shipping from Asia takes ages. I'll definitely post a review as soon as I get it.
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Thanks for the information, I hadn't considered that it might be because of the coating. I got a screen protector for it so I'm happy Thanks!
Oh god better find a screen protector fast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=571pu66vEBc
That's just really sad...
It makes sense because it's more shatter resistant but more soft. Screen protector it is...
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I just ordered some screen protectors. I planned on going naked but screw that! I'm very disappointed to see how easily it scratches. I swore I read something that GG said the scratch resistance was the same as GG 4. REALLY messed up!
Ever since I saw the Nexus 6P bend test from the same person, I've been very hesitant to trust him.
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Devhux said:
Ever since I saw the Nexus 6P bend test from the same person, I've been very hesitant to trust him.
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What was wrong with those tests? He even made a 2nd video to detail the structural flaws in the phone.
Devhux said:
Ever since I saw the Nexus 6P bend test from the same person, I've been very hesitant to trust him.
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Lol what a dumb comment
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Pointro said:
What was wrong with those tests? He even made a 2nd video to detail the structural flaws in the phone.
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Nexus 6P is nowhere near as flimsy as he made it appear - a lot of people were very doubtful.
Also, with this one, how was the IMEI sticker removed already yet all the plastic was still on the phone? You even saw the residue where the sticker was!
(and no, don't use the "he put all the plastic back on the phone" excuse. No way would you get it back on that perfect).
Yeah, I'm skeptical, but that's my own opinion. I also don't put a lot of faith into drop tests, as each case is different. I've also been one to take very good care of my phones, and don't generally use screen protectors. No real scratches either!
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Brava27 said:
Lol what a dumb comment
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Oh boo hoo - someone doesn't agree with your opinion. Not like I give a damn.
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Ever since I saw the Nexus 6P bend test from the same person, I've been very hesitant to trust him.
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And the 6P did not bend? My bent after some weeks of normal use
Looks like i will have to use a full body skin.
Honestly, I'm pretty sure Samsung did this on purpose.
The conclusion seems to be:
Gorilla Glass 4 - More scratch resistant, less shatter resistant
Gorilla Glass 5 - More shatter resistant, less scratch resistant
This makes me feel that Samsung chose Gorilla Glass on purpose due to their intentions of reintroducing the Edge screen to the Note series.
I'm sure everyone has seen the Tempered Glass Screen Protectors made for Edge screens and the truth is... they're not effective at all as compared to their flat counterparts.
I'm not sure about others, but regular film screen protectors are already highly effective in blocking scratches and they're cheap to replace.
On the other hand, the main reason to get a glass screen protector is to protect against shattering which film protectors aren't effective against.
Which makes me think...
The Note7 has an edge screen which makes it very difficult to have a glass screen protector as protection, yet regular film protectors are still possible.
So, the switch to the more shatter resistant gorilla glass 5 is to make up for the inability to use tempered glass screen protectors and gives us the opportunity to use film screen protectors as a scratch resistance alternative.
Well, that's my theory at least. Might be complete BS, but it doesn't seem that bad to me.
At least, for a device that can't use tempered glass screen protectors, I would want the glass to be more shatter resistant rather than scratch resistant since film does a good job at guarding against scratches.
If a good tempered glass screen protector was available, then I would probably still want Gorilla Glass 5 since glass screen protectors is also extremely effective against scratches.
But if I was to use my phone naked... I'm honestly not sure which I'll want more. Let's hope Gorilla Glass 6 is both scratch and shatter resistant.
Naked... this is just BS, in real life how can u scratch it if you use a case? and don't put it with your keys...
mk89pwnz said:
Naked... this is just BS, in real life how can u scratch it if you use a case? and don't put it with your keys...
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The biggest cause of scratches is not keys or scissors or razor blades.
It's the simple elements of our earth that do the damage, namely Sand and Grit.
It only takes a particle of sand or grit to come into contact with the screen, add the element of friction and that causes the vast majority of all scratches.
No matter how this is spun, poorer scratch resistance is not good especially considering this is a device designed to have constant friction on its surface with the stylus.
Zolares said:
This makes me feel that Samsung chose Gorilla Glass on purpose due to their intentions of reintroducing the Edge screen to the Note series.
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A little tin foil hat, isn't it? GG5 is Corning's latest and greatest and by next year it'll be on all flagships and pseudo-flagships. Some scratch resistance was traded for some shatter resistance. Good or bad that's what we've got. Samsung's selling an official screen protector which might be telling us something. I ordered two sets of two.
http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-note7/accessories/
BarryH_GEG said:
A little tin foil hat, isn't it? GG5 is Corning's latest and greatest and by next year it'll be on all flagships and pseudo-flagships. Some scratch resistance was traded for some shatter resistance. Good or bad that's what we've got. Samsung's selling an official screen protector which might be telling us something. I ordered two sets of two.
http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-note7/accessories/
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Yeah, I believe it was the first time that they have released an official screen protector. So they already know.
Zolares said:
Honestly, I'm pretty sure Samsung did this on purpose.
The conclusion seems to be:
Gorilla Glass 4 - More scratch resistant, less shatter resistant
Gorilla Glass 5 - More shatter resistant, less scratch resistant
This makes me feel that Samsung chose Gorilla Glass on purpose due to their intentions of reintroducing the Edge screen to the Note series.
I'm sure everyone has seen the Tempered Glass Screen Protectors made for Edge screens and the truth is... they're not effective at all as compared to their flat counterparts.
I'm not sure about others, but regular film screen protectors are already highly effective in blocking scratches and they're cheap to replace.
On the other hand, the main reason to get a glass screen protector is to protect against shattering which film protectors aren't effective against.
Which makes me think...
The Note7 has an edge screen which makes it very difficult to have a glass screen protector as protection, yet regular film protectors are still possible.
So, the switch to the more shatter resistant gorilla glass 5 is to make up for the inability to use tempered glass screen protectors and gives us the opportunity to use film screen protectors as a scratch resistance alternative.
Well, that's my theory at least. Might be complete BS, but it doesn't seem that bad to me.
At least, for a device that can't use tempered glass screen protectors, I would want the glass to be more shatter resistant rather than scratch resistant since film does a good job at guarding against scratches.
If a good tempered glass screen protector was available, then I would probably still want Gorilla Glass 5 since glass screen protectors is also extremely effective against scratches.
But if I was to use my phone naked... I'm honestly not sure which I'll want more. Let's hope Gorilla Glass 6 is both scratch and shatter resistant.
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Flexibility (shatter resistance) and hardness (scratch resistance) are mutually exclusive. Maybe some kind of formulation of glass or a different material at some point will help, but honestly I don't think a solution to both of these issues at the same time will come any time soon.
I have never shattered a phone screen and I use minimal cases to protect against scratching. I have had a bad drop or two over the years, but the phone has always survived. I'd take scratch resistance any day of the week.
Film protectors suck ass. They offer no oleophobic properties, gunk up, and feel like **** compared to glass. I will never use of these. I even dislike glass protectors, because if you get a single spec of dirt under them during application or misalign it, might as well throw it in the trash if you have OCD because you're never going to get over it. Plus you add another layer between you and the pixels which is never good for image quality sake. Samsung did a great job with this display and the glass in front of it (e.g. lowest reflectance ever). Putting some cheap ass protector over it, even glass, will be detrimental. Also, good luck finding a decent glass protector that works with the curves. Samsung is probably going to be the absolute best option, so I would skip everything else and just buy that and pray you get the install perfect because knowing Samsung it won't be cheap.
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A little tin foil hat, isn't it? GG5 is Corning's latest and greatest and by next year it'll be on all flagships and pseudo-flagships. Some scratch resistance was traded for some shatter resistance. Good or bad that's what we've got. Samsung's selling an official screen protector which might be telling us something. I ordered two sets of two.
http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-note7/accessories/
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Where did you order them from, Samsung's own site? I did a search but can't get to an actual product page for it.
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mk89pwnz said:
Naked... this is just BS, in real life how can u scratch it if you use a case? and don't put it with your keys...
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EXACTLY. If you shove this in your front pocket with keys and the rest or in a purse with a bunch of crap then I don't feel sorry. I've never scratched a screen, shattered a screen or any of the crap I see. Maybe I'm too AR to let this happen. IDK.
I really hate screen protectors! Although I haven't tried tempered type. To me they degrade viewing . Really irks me that you pay a premium to get a great screen that easily scratches and takes away from the experience .
I'm still gonna try it out, but may be my last samsung if that becomes the new norm.
Having owned the Note 1, Note 2, Galaxy S4 (terrible), I moved to Nexus/Apple and did not want to buy Samsung ever again. I went against myself and pre-ordered the Note 7 thinking maybe this would be a perfect phone for an old man. This video made me cancel the pre-order, I will wait for the next Nexus or iPhone.