After using the three main competitors in the tablet market, I’ve made some interesting observations in regards to each the pros and cons. I spent a good three months with my HP Touchpad, a good week with my parent’s iPad and a few days with my new Xoom. I’m not really comparing the hardware. All tablets have dual core CPUs, the iPad and Touchpad have IPS displays and the Xoom a good LCD (although I do miss the viewing angles of the IPS).
Overall, I feel that Honeycomb has the most potential, if it solves some basic issues. WebOS would be great if there were more Apps.
iOS Pros:
Huge App Store
Ease of use
Easy to transfer music to and keep playlists
Music player is set up like a desktop iTunes so its easy to browse music
iOS Cons:
Lack of customization (widgets etc)
Restrictions on types of media that can be played
Semi-multi tasking
WebOS Pros:
Ease of use
True multitasking
Media player set up like iTunes so it is easy to browse
Best on-screen keyboard I have ever used
WebOS Cons:
Lack of Apps
Lack of customization (widgets)
Restrictions on Media
Media can be hard to transfer over and keep playlists
Battery seems to randomly drain: sometimes 15-20% overnight for no reason
Honeycomb Pros:
Customization galore
Ability to sideload apps that Google doesn’t approve
App Store has many apps
Custom ROMS
Transfer music using WMP seems to keep playlists intact
Cloud Music
True Multi-tasking
Honeycomb Cons:
No Lock Screen Widgets for Music Player
Music player “looks” nice, but is extremely hard to navigate in comparison to WebOS and iOS. Wish there was a “text” only version instead of displaying album art
Not as many tablet apps yet
Hard to tell Tablet apps from phone apps in market
Sometimes doesn’t seem as smooth as it should be, given the hardware inside
Wait until ICS comes out on the tabs, then hopefully you can tell us your thoughts on that.
good job guy
Musicmaster said:
After using the three main competitors in the tablet market, I’ve made some interesting observations in regards to each the pros and cons. I spent a good three months with my HP Touchpad, a good week with my parent’s iPad and a few days with my new Xoom. I’m not really comparing the hardware. All tablets have dual core CPUs, the iPad and Touchpad have IPS displays and the Xoom a good LCD (although I do miss the viewing angles of the IPS).
Overall, I feel that Honeycomb has the most potential, if it solves some basic issues. WebOS would be great if there were more Apps.
iOS Pros:
Huge App Store
Ease of use
Easy to transfer music to and keep playlists
Music player is set up like a desktop iTunes so its easy to browse music
iOS Cons:
Lack of customization (widgets etc)
Restrictions on types of media that can be played
Semi-multi tasking
WebOS Pros:
Ease of use
True multitasking
Media player set up like iTunes so it is easy to browse
Best on-screen keyboard I have ever used
WebOS Cons:
Lack of Apps
Lack of customization (widgets)
Restrictions on Media
Media can be hard to transfer over and keep playlists
Battery seems to randomly drain: sometimes 15-20% overnight for no reason
Honeycomb Pros:
Customization galore
Ability to sideload apps that Google doesn’t approve
App Store has many apps
Custom ROMS
Transfer music using WMP seems to keep playlists intact
Cloud Music
True Multi-tasking
Honeycomb Cons:
No Lock Screen Widgets for Music Player
Music player “looks” nice, but is extremely hard to navigate in comparison to WebOS and iOS. Wish there was a “text” only version instead of displaying album art
Not as many tablet apps yet
Hard to tell Tablet apps from phone apps in market
Sometimes doesn’t seem as smooth as it should be, given the hardware inside
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agree web os is really "down"
I still feel androia good
Good writeup.... iOS, however, can suck it. I hat my wife's new ipad 2.... I still prefer to use my evolution over it.
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agree too web os is really down and ios is at downside ... if they dont work upon there os really fast and make there strategies more good then i am not surprised if they got out of the market really soon..
As a PRO for HP Touchpad, might want to consider adding the ability to also install Android (CM7) right along side and dual boot to even further expand on the utility. I love dual booting my Touchpad. I find I spend more of my time in Android though...love the ability to customize the UI with themes and widgets that I can not do in WebOS.
I was wondering the same thing.
Your research is great for people who want to buy a smartphone
its simple,
IOS = for people who are simple and do not like to bother the operating system to operate
Android = 100% the opposite of the IOS
I think it
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I just got my tab two months ago, and I have been trying to find any app that best suits this gadget. So far, I almost got what I want, so I decide to write them down, and maybe this can help some other newcomers like me.
player:
1.BSplayer. It has a very nice ui and an functional LAN mode(you can stream from any smb server within a LAN). It's currently introduced a hw acceleration method, which I think is as good as the one that Diceplayer has.
2.Google Music. Very cool UI with a nice widget. A must-have app for anyone who likes google's music streaming service.
Google Reader
HD Reader Since I rely on google reader to subscribe rss feeds, google reader app is definitely a essential reading tool on my tab. But I really don't like the google's version(it's just a phone app). After several days of app-hunting, I found this one, it supports 3 different theme, and many essential settings such as on/off line mode, font family, cache, image downloading, etc. it's ui design is just visually appealing. Plus it has a transparent widget which is also configurable.
Podcast download/streaming
Beyond Pod. This one is definitely the best choice if you listen/watch podcast on daily basis. the ui is optimized for tablet, and transition is quite smooth. It provided all the basic features of a podcast receiver app.
Ebook Reader
Mantano I tried a lot of ebook reader's but eventually settled with Mantano reader. It has a very nice ui which is optimized for tablet. It supports epub as well as pdf. The reading experience is excellent.
Ezpdfreader. Probably the best pdf reader I could find.
Facebook/twitter
Wizz widget for tablet. this applet is just enough for basic usage of facebook/twitter. so I don't need other apps for these. Anyway,you can try Friendme/Friendcaster, and tweetcomb. These individual apps are all optimized for the tablets.
My Recommended Apps For Tablet - From Galaxy 10.1 WiFi
Player
1) PlayerPro. It is about the only player app that gave me the opportunity to edit the album art for each one of my songs. Another cool thing of it is the ability to install and use personalized Skins. Pretty Nice looking interface, to me this is my Music Player Winner. My library looks so organized with this app.
2) Google Music. As hilltruange states, this is a must-have app for anyone who likes google's Music Streaming service. I also like the fact that it kind of connects your music experience with the new market Music feauture.
3)AudioGalaxy. This is the winner when it comes to a low capacity of storage on your device!. AudioGalaxy allows you to stream ALL your music from home straight to your personal device in just a few SECONDS! This app is kind of like Google Music nevertheless it does not upload it to the cloud but instead it streams it using the internet connection. Must-have as well.
Ebook Reader
I personally go more for the cool looking interface - Flipping pages like a real book rather than what the app itself can do. Ive had my Galaxy 10.1 Tab for about 4 months now and Ill have to admit that i havent found anything really better than the Ebook.apk app that came with my Task650 - ROM. It does the job just great! In my opinion this app really makes the reading feel like if you were reading a real technological book. I personally use online EPUB converters so that i can enjoy my PDF's with the "Flipping pages" feature.
Just for the record, Ive tried Mantano and dont get me wrong. The app is awesome but just the fact that it only does scrolling effect on the pages really bugs me. :-(
Live TV/Movies/Sports/Streaming
So far my Number One app for live Tv streaming is Veetle.apk. I've personally used Veetle for about 2 years now and trust me it is great!. It is about the only app out there that allows you to stream hd movies at a very nice quality on your Tablet!. I also have NETFLIX which also does the job for me.
Android Launcher
ADWLauncher Ex. I understand that the Stock Android Launcher looks pretty descent but the ADWLauncher Ex just turns your Android Tablet experience to a whole new level! Take a look at my Google+ TNDG page:
h t t p s : / / p l u s . g o o g l e . c o m / u /0/b/103728314829341153863/#
In there i have some of my tablet screen pics using ADWLauncher Ex.
WiFi Calling! For Free
Groove IP. If you have a WiFi ONLY tablet then you should really get yourself a Google Voice account and download GrooVe IP from the market!. Groove IP tuns your WiFi Tablet into a Phone. Must-Have if you want to make phone calls for free.
OoVoO. Number ONE Video conference app WAY better and HD quality compared to Tango. If you have Google Talk and most of your friends are on it then you should be fine using the Talk Video feauture. Nevertheless, if you want to experience something different but with the same quality as Google hangouts then i strongly recommend to download OoVoO.apk.
Sound Equilizer
EQualizer. EQualizer from Google Music takes the quality of your tablet sound to a whole new level!.
Best Keyboards
SwiftKey Tablet X. SwiftKey Tablet X is in my opinion the best when it comes to a nice looking neon easy to use keyboard experience!.
HD Tablet - Video Games!
Riptide GP - HD
ShadowGun - HD
Pinball for Tegra - HD
Ocean Bubble - HD
Light Racer 3D - HD
GOF2 THD - HD
Block Breaker 3 - HD
Stardunk - HD
Heave Gunner 3D - HD
Hero of Sparta - HD
Asphalt 6 - HD
UNO - HD
BackBreaker Tegra2 - HD
AirAttack - HD
WaveBlazer - HD
CrazySnowBoard - HD
N.O.V.A. 2 - HD
Radio Services
Pandora
Jango
TuneIn
hilltruange said:
I just got my tab two months ago, and I have been trying to find any app that best suits this gadget. So far, I almost got what I want, so I decide to write them down, and maybe this can help some other newcomers like me.
player:
1.BSplayer. It has a very nice ui and an functional LAN mode(you can stream from any smb server within a LAN). It's currently introduced a hw acceleration method, which I think is as good as the one that Diceplayer has.
2.Google Music. Very cool UI with a nice widget. A must-have app for anyone who likes google's music streaming service.
Google Reader
HD Reader Since I rely on google reader to subscribe rss feeds, google reader app is definitely a essential reading tool on my tab. But I really don't like the google's version(it's just a phone app). After several days of app-hunting, I found this one, it supports 3 different theme, and many essential settings such as on/off line mode, font family, cache, image downloading, etc. it's ui design is just visually appealing. Plus it has a transparent widget which is also configurable.
Podcast download/streaming
Beyond Pod. This one is definitely the best choice if you listen/watch podcast on daily basis. the ui is optimized for tablet, and transition is quite smooth. It provided all the basic features of a podcast receiver app.
Ebook Reader
Mantano I tried a lot of ebook reader's but eventually settled with Mantano reader. It has a very nice ui which is optimized for tablet. It supports epub as well as pdf. The reading experience is excellent.
Ezpdfreader. Probably the best pdf reader I could find.
Facebook/twitter
Wizz widget for tablet. this applet is just enough for basic usage of facebook/twitter. so I don't need other apps for these. Anyway,you can try Friendme/Friendcaster, and tweetcomb. These individual apps are all optimized for the tablets.
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thanks for the suggestion of Reader HD, that's the kind of RSS program I've been looking for! Love the theme unification with Gmail!
hilltruange said:
I just got my tab two months ago, and I have been trying to find any app that best suits this gadget. So far, I almost got what I want, so I decide to write them down, and maybe this can help some other newcomers like me.
player:
1.BSplayer. It has a very nice ui and an functional LAN mode(you can stream from any smb server within a LAN). It's currently introduced a hw acceleration method, which I think is as good as the one that Diceplayer has.
2.Google Music. Very cool UI with a nice widget. A must-have app for anyone who likes google's music streaming service.
Google Reader
HD Reader Since I rely on google reader to subscribe rss feeds, google reader app is definitely a essential reading tool on my tab. But I really don't like the google's version(it's just a phone app). After several days of app-hunting, I found this one, it supports 3 different theme, and many essential settings such as on/off line mode, font family, cache, image downloading, etc. it's ui design is just visually appealing. Plus it has a transparent widget which is also configurable.
Podcast download/streaming
Beyond Pod. This one is definitely the best choice if you listen/watch podcast on daily basis. the ui is optimized for tablet, and transition is quite smooth. It provided all the basic features of a podcast receiver app.
Ebook Reader
Mantano I tried a lot of ebook reader's but eventually settled with Mantano reader. It has a very nice ui which is optimized for tablet. It supports epub as well as pdf. The reading experience is excellent.
Ezpdfreader. Probably the best pdf reader I could find.
Facebook/twitter
Wizz widget for tablet. this applet is just enough for basic usage of facebook/twitter. so I don't need other apps for these. Anyway,you can try Friendme/Friendcaster, and tweetcomb. These individual apps are all optimized for the tablets.
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I've had my tab since August, and I've spent a lot of time trying out different apps and bouncing around.
I still stick with Stitcher for Podcasts, having tried BeyondPod and a few others and just not being that impressed. I'm hoping Stitcher will get more tablet-optimized soon.
For an RSS reader, I hadn't seen HD Reader before -- it looks pretty slick. I've been turned off by all the apps like Pulse which turn my daily news-reading into a huge multimedia experience; I much prefer the simplicity of the standard Google Reader app to that. HD Reader looks like it might be a nice merging, though, and I'll give that a try.
MoonReader+ works well for epub reading, but I think I'll give Mantano a try.
DicePlayer was one of the first apps I bought for my tablet for videos, and I haven't regretted it.
Reddita is great for browsing and posting to Reddit. I have Reddit is Fun for my phone, but Reddita is just perfect on tablets.
I prefer Thumb Keyboard | Tablet over SwiftKey X for Tablet, but it's pretty close. I use Hacker's Keyboard occasionally when I'm doing terminal sessions. Speaking of, Better Terminal Emulator pro is the only option for SSH sessions!
Make sure you browse around Tablified.
news360 is my favorite news app for the tab so far, but I'll have to checkout HD reader.
thank u so much guys...these lists were needed a long ago but its never late.
i agree that these lists are awesome and this thread must be sticky so that newcomers can take advantage.
Music
TuneIn Radio - Ha! Who needs an FM antenna? I can get all my favorite radio stations from everywhere I've ever lived, oh and that cool one from Germany. I haven't even bothered putting MP3s on my tab because of this app.
Ebook
FBreader - No fancy graphics, just customizable and simple epub access. Quite possibly the most opened app on my Tab.
TV
Crunchyroll - Mmmm anime. I've been tempted more than once to invest in the premium access.
Keyboard
Thumb Keyboard - Very fast, and has an awesome Tron-styled theme.
HD Reader is amazing, I've been using it since the first day I got the tab. it is the best Google Reader that I've seen
SamerBerjawi said:
HD Reader is amazing, I've been using it since the first day I got the tab. it is the best Google Reader that I've seen
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for me justreader better than hd reader.
mynewuser said:
for me justreader better than hd reader.
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will try that out now... thanks
Data counter apps
Hi Guys,
Need your 2 cent of advice for data counter or data monitor apps, currently all the apps related program to capture our data in and out is not working well for my tab 8.9 only wifi.
any suggestion
thanks in advance
My Recommended Apps
I am an engineer, a designer, a developer, editor and a computer enthusiast
i have these tools on my tab to work on
adobe creatpdf
touch retouch
smart tools
touchnote
photofunia
google reader
money lover
andromedia
adobe kuler
sketch n draw
think free office tablet
ps touch
pixlr o matic
qr droid
mobile biz pro
electrodroid
tape machine
sketch book
super note
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abima80 said:
Hi Guys,
Need your 2 cent of advice for data counter or data monitor apps, currently all the apps related program to capture our data in and out is not working well for my tab 8.9 only wifi.
any suggestion
thanks in advance
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use this
this is the best one
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.carl.trafficcounter
Is their a way to increase font size in mantano reader?
I just tried Stitcher and I love it so far, I think that is my media news (podcasts/video/news radio) and Goggle Currents has been nice so far for reading.
So my favorite apps are:
Podcasts: Stitcher
News Reader: Currents, Pulse
Launcher: ADW
Browser: Dolphin w/ LastPass & Xmarks
Voicemail: Google Voice
Media: Pandora, Plex, 8tracks
DLNA: Skifta
Remote Desktop: PocketCloud
Other:
Evernote
Read It Later
Dropbox
someone recommended reddita for reddit, while it is good, i prefer f5 for reddit on tab, and on the phone, bacon reader( also for redit)
I use Pulse and I really like it, some times Currents too but one big issue is offline reading i have 32gigs on my tab and i dont care how much it takes to download all news everyday from about 100 sources. but I want to read full articles with images offline when im on the road..
I would be greatful for any advice
Just had my wifes replacement tab arrive today, boy its gonna be fun getting into this thing!
I've seen a lot of great suggestions here, but was wondering if there are many launchers optimized for tablet?
I saw ADWlauncherEX suggested, i already own that on my phone so i will definitely try that first.
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Mirmensky said:
Just had my wifes replacement tab arrive today, boy its gonna be fun getting into this thing!
I've seen a lot of great suggestions here, but was wondering if there are many launchers optimized for tablet?
I saw ADWlauncherEX suggested, i already own that on my phone so i will definitely try that first.
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I don't know about launchers designed for tablets, but I use ADWex and have had no issue at all with it.
On a side note, Mint just optimized their finance app for tabs and it is great. If you're a stickler about managing your expenses, I find this app to be incredible.
Anybody know pdf readervthat is quick to open not so complex docs and pdf, mostly meeting notes. Ccurrently using ezypdf and polaris office, both is quite slow and for polaris after many pdf docs will force close.
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biggiebro said:
Anybody know pdf readervthat is quick to open not so complex docs and pdf, mostly meeting notes. Ccurrently using ezypdf and polaris office, both is quite slow and for polaris after many pdf docs will force close.
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Repligo reader
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I use my desktop somewhat. Play games once in awhile...But mainly use my Prime...It plays games that I like. I stream Netflix for movies, tv shows etc...Why do I even need a desktop anymore.
Would I miss it if it were gone? Not sure.
Have any of you ran into this dilemma?
Well i play games on mine plus i have 3tb of storage that i use to stream movies to two TVs in the house. That and i had a desktop before the prime and resell value sucks so not worth the hassle to sell it for a low amount. And i still use ms office on the desktop.
i actually don't have a desktop...or pc anymore. Completely abandoned them for the Prime. Why? Well first it was because I wanted to see if Android was self sufficient yet - could I do the same things I do on the Prime that I do on my PC...and the answer was an overwhelming YES.
There are lots of wishes though - I wish I had USB 3.0 more than ever. I wish there were at least 2 USB ports on my prime - but the hub seems to temporarily work. Most importantly, however, I wish there was an automatic editing program like Kingsoft or QuickOffice Pro that offered an in-program printing solution. This is probably my #1 complaint.
I use PrinterShare (paid key) for Docs and PDFs (do a lot of printing of those) - and for my photos, I use Canon EPP which works well when I print pictures. However, neither of these programs offer the customization of printing within Windows - such as auto center for pdfs or High Quality color printing within Canon EPP.
Now I know either Acer or Toshiba is coming out with a tablet with built in printing - to any printer!! that's news to me, I only hope it can work effectively, as I still cannot print collate documents all the time.
But why do you have a desktop? Probably because in time you will still need it - or you haven't forced yourself to use Android consistently. Flash is working well for me, one way or another, in either Opera Mobile Browser or ICS Browser +. I haven't used Dolphin in a while but most flash applications and java intensive work well within Opera and Browser+.
I also tend to use OnLive for streaming windows desktop - If i REALLY need something. I know in terms of games with GaiKai system coming it is going to be very different in the future - and one day when I have a fast enough internet connection sure I'll play Skyrim streaming. My big wish was that the Padfone came over to the US before the SGS III - but it hasn't and it won't. I truly wanted to be the all-in-one. I'm tired of checking my android phone when it beeps if it's a text message or email - and then to check my prime for the same thing. I do wish I could have bought the padfone - I think it's a fantastic idea and I dont even care that it's that thick - I just hope they did enough hardware enhancements that the hinge isn't too bad and they added enough counter weights to the keyboard dock. I definitely thought the pricing, for what it offered, wasn't bad at all.
Sorry to go off a little topic but - with your desktop you can do one thing very well......
Be productive!!!
I was thinking of the coolness factor of just having one device, a phone, to which you could connect an external display and have an extended desktop. I am not finding any reference to this on Android (only the MS Surface). From what I have been reading, and remember/understand (may be confused), Jelly Bean brought the ability for windowing apps. However, the apps have to be coded for the capability, unless you root your phone and installed an app that provided windowing for all apps. Also, I have not heard of the possibility of having an extended desktop in Android.
I would like to ask WHY? Why not have windowing and the ability for an extended desktop, on an external display? A bluetooth keyboard and mouse just follows. Does google have to play nice with the manufacturers that stand to loose from people only needing one device? Is there a reason I'm not thinking of? Most phones are fast enough for this these days.
At the turn of the century, I was running GPS software Deluo Routis on a Sony Vaio 505 Pentium 200Mhz laptop running Win98. The 2-D graphics were smooth even while playing mp3's through the car speakers. The mapping software showed the map clearly, and effectively gave me navigation. People have lost sight of how much you can do if you give up the bloat and bling.
Also, I am pretty confused with the merging of Android and Chrome. I never liked Java to begin with; my experience with it is in MS Windows, and it runs slow as molasses. I believe my phone would run much faster if they had not chosen Java. I understand this to be because you have an operating system running on top of another operating system. It just makes more sense to me to have less layers and run apps natively, for better performance. I thought maybe they chose Java for its level of security. Is the screening process for Google Play not foolproof enough?
I like the philosophy of Google better than Microsoft**, so if one of them is going to win, I hope it's Google. I'm hoping Google won't end up with a convoluted Android/Chrome operating system because Lawyers forced them to (the idea I get based on the latest news). I don't understand: do they want to keep their OS architecture simple, but are being forced to make the OS complex for different reasons?
**Apple doesn't even want to compete. They have never wanted to dominate, just make huge profits. Unless they break up the marriage of hardware and software, they won't win. Then again, if Samsung keeps dominating, there may not be much hardware diversity?
Oh, and my main question was: "Why not have windowing and the ability for an extended desktop?". Wouldn't that be a big deciding factor for anyone that wanted to simplify and just have one device?
Anybody? Tell me I'm crazy at least. There has to be a strategic reason, that Google does not introduce full windowing and extended desktop support.
Its coming eventually. though you could do it right now. Motorola tried something like this with their atrix lapdocks.
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E_Phather said:
Its coming eventually. though you could do it right now. Motorola tried something like this with their atrix lapdocks.
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Can you do it right now with any android device having a video port?
Well lets look at how we could achieve this with todays technology.
Input:
Bluetooth Mouse & keyboard.
Output:
Wireless display with support for older displays using something like Chromecast.
Graphical User Interface:
A secondary Launcher/Application (Which could potentially see companies like MS & Canonical developing their own UI's and Charging for them if required).
Home & Office use with one device:
Home would be the default UI, but when your device has used NFC to log into the office it would automatically enable your Office profile/UI for a certain length of time (requiring you to log back in after a set time or manual log out via another NFC tap).
This would be very useful as it would enable you to take your "desktop" environment anywhere with you and connect to any HDTV with Wireless display/Chromecast support.
Applications:
So if like me you are finding your phone to become ever more a better solution to your digital needs and you only require your desktop for apps which work better with larger displays (Videos & certain games) you will find this very useful.
Games:
Now games could become ever more better as they could be controlled using standardised control inputs (game controllers could use standardised input methods allowing you to select any compatible controller to best suit your needs) or even a driving game could allow you to see the game on a HDTV yet be controlled with the accelerometer for steering and the right of the devices touch display would be the accelerator and the left of the display would be the brakes for example.
More Business Solutions:
If you could wirelessly connect to the office display then show a powerpoint style presentation that would be great because the very device which stores the file would also be your controller to move to the next/pevious slides.
Media:
Music could possibly be stored in the cloud so when your on the move you can listen to your music as many of us do now, but when connected to a large display it could utilise the large display and speakers to show a music video too!.
Photos could be viewed on the large screen and the next one to be displayed could be select on the device (allowing the use to avoid showing anyone pictures which they don't want other to see - ie: pitcures of you and your friends whilst your parents/grandparents are in the room...).
The TV Guide:
The TV Guide would become a very interactive thing which allows you to see what is available on other TV channels without other people in the room being limited to viewing the content they are trying to watch in a small box in the corner of the display...
These are just some ideas of what is possible, but I know that you could do so much more with this and with 64-bit technology coming to many mobile devices soon that will make it so much easier for devices to process all of this data at once without any serious lag!.
I would love to see a group of developers on XDA team up on an open desktop (secondary) launcher to run alongside the users primary (phone) launcher. if there was a project like this with an open framework to develop apps for I'd be happy to start developing apps for that or separate UI's to run alongside my current (Phone/Android) apps UI's.
Edit:
Also remember that this could be utilised in other ways too eg:: connecting your device to your car and your device could deliver your navigation & music to your vehicles display whilst getting important traffic/weather news using your devices network connection!.
Isn't this exactly what the Ubuntu phone intends to do or have I got the wrong idea?
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Yes, but with Android already having a large ecosystem it would make a lot of sense to build upon that.
Chromecast is not "open" to third party apps. http://www.minyanville.com/sectors/...eeds-to-Tread-Lightly-With/8/28/2013/id/51502
Do they have a displayport version of Chromecast? *cough*
quote from: http://www.tested.com/tech/set-top-boxes/457036-testing-google-chromecast/
"Chromecast is also not a particularly good desktop mirroring option, either. It actually can't do full desktop mirroring, and instead works solely with the Chrome browser. In beta right now is Chrome tab streaming, which sends to Chromecast everything that can be rendered in a single Chrome tab, including web pages, flash embeds, and even full-screen MKV video files if you have VLC installed. I like that Chrome tab streaming works independently of what's showing on your laptop or desktop's screen--like with YouTube and Netflix, you can multi-task and switch to other tabs or windows while one tab is being streamed. The only thing that matters is the window size and screen resolution. Chromecast will automatically scale the aspect ratio of your window to fill up your TV screen, adding black bars on the sides to avoid stretching. A full-screen resolution of 1440x900 looked good on a large 1080p TV, but streaming from a 2560x1600 monitor at full-screen made the text unreadable on my 70" TV."
Wow... I thought only displayport was capable of 2560x1600 (edit: hdmi v1.3 brought this). Even if I hook it up to my 2560x1600 monitor, it won't really display anything but entertainment. Chromecast doesn't seem to be a way to have a monitor, to use your Android phone as a PC replacement.
AllCast !!!
http://www.geek.com/android/chromecast-reject-becomes-allcast-public-beta-now-available-1578674/
However, I still need to add some kind of wifi enabled device to my 30" lcd monitor (like with chromecast). Really, I don't mind a cable connection from my phone to my monitor, if that was an option. If Google continues to be closed like this, then I would go for Ubuntu phone.
Displayport:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MyDP#SlimPort
Any phones have this besides the Google Nexus 4? Actually, I'm not getting a new phone until I know what the hell will happen with Android / Chrome OS
Quote from: http://www.tested.com/tech/android/457205-mhl-vs-slimport/
"SlimPort's support for the DisplayPort standard--specifically Mobility DisplayPort--means it can output video at the same 4K resolution as MHL, though not via HDMI (yet, anyway). And here SlimPort hasn't really made good on its potential, yet; though it's based on the flexible DisplayPort standard, the only SlimPort adapters currently available are for VGA and HDMI connectors. The upshot is that you won't be plugging a Nexus 7 into a 1440p DisplayPort computer monitor anytime soon." http://www.slimportconnect.com/
Chromecast May Get Screen Mirroring With Android 4.4.1
Evidence in Android 4.4.1 indicates that screen mirroring is coming to Chromecast.
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http://www.tomshardware.com/news/chromecast-google-screen-mirroring-kitkat-android,25345.html
It could start with mirroring a primary display, but gradually result in mirroring something that a GPU has rendered for a secondary display.
A dock from Samsung Galaxy phones. Has USB ports, HDMI, and audio.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EDD-S20JWEGSTA
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A dock from Samsung Galaxy phones. Has USB ports, HDMI, and audio.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EDD-S20JWEGSTA
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I tried that myself with my previous Galaxy S4 (i9500), It was a great dock and when I connected my wireless KB & Mouse USB dongle & connected the HDMI to my PC monitor it was a good experience when doing things like playing GTA3 on the bigger screen (it was better than the windows version in some ways).
But the device just needed a separate home screen UI to be output to the PC screen to look perfect and to work better with the KB & Mouse input type.
It shouldn't be too difficult to make a UI that simply changes the size of some buttons to a smaller size, enabling more widgets to fit on the home screen and if they could simply force the apps to run in either windowed or full screen that would enable better multi-tasking, then the browsers would just need a small update to detect if the device is running in Desktop Mode if so, then simply zoom out of the page a little to emulate the desktop browser experience.
Just a few ideas... If Google's Android team are reading this, I would recommend that you get that dock to experiment with for future Android builds.
Especially now that OS' like Ubuntu Phone are looking at going down this road of the one device fits all computational needs.
Rather than creating a new thread I thought that it would appropriate to bring this topic back up after the recent announcements that several OEM's have made, that they will be releasing desktops with Android as their Primary/Secondary OS.
I hope that this pushes Google into creating a dedicated desktop UI in the future.
And believe me I've virtually tried them all, or at least the best of the bunch.
You get users who praise apps that really only trim video files, and add very basic effects. No, I'm talking about a proper video editing apps with a scrolling 'timeline', with realtime rendered playback preview of effects, texts and transitions.
The only one's that come remotely close are 'VideoPad Pro' and 'Clesh', Clesh is a great cloud editing system but it's a little basic but I'm sure this will improve. VideoPad feels the closest to a PC type UI, but seems to struggle slightly playing back in realtime on what is a powerful Sony flagship phone, 'TrakAx MovieExpress' is a known PC editing suit, but it's Android UI clunky, and not intuitive, also realtime playback is really bad.
The Android original 4.3 version 'Video editor' is also not a smooth candidate, but it has a few effects, transitions and a basic text feature.
Basically they all suffer very limiting 'title' and 'text' functions, some allowing a single font style, some with no text manipulation at all.
So those video editing software developers out there, come on, start producing something in the realms on iOS I Movie, and Reel Director, Android phones should well be able support apps of this quality.
Just needed to have this moan..... After all. it is Christmas.
Happy Christmas
Regards
Livio
Try MAGISTO
Hey guys I am contemplating on developing a media play that will be able to play both audio and video within a single app and designing it partly around the vanilla KitKat experience. I was thinking I would list it anywhere between $1 to $3. What do yall think. Is it a good idea? Do you think it would sell? Would you buy it?
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I think people use their phones differently when listening to music or watching media, at least I do and the people I know do as well
So if I'm to listen to music, be it with head phones or streaming I go to one app, and I don't keep videos on my devices so all streaming is done through various apps
If you really want to do this I would suggest a free version with either limited options or ads so users can test and you will see if there is a market for it
But I think this is a case where you need to sell the user the idea that one app is better than two or three or....
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yeah i think this is a great idea especially with the kitkat UI implemented into it, and the idea to be able to have both music and videos within one app is great but what i think you should do is have different section for music and videos such as having a sub menu or something where you can select what you want to do and from that you could also implement a photo viewer and maybe even a stream type thing or something
I think a very simplistic "android player" with the new kitkat UI that plays all major video and audio would be useful. Possible features like playlists and album art would require the paid version. The focus of it would have to be the modern theme and simplicity since one app is simpler than two. It can still be very powerful without all the extra options that are in many applications.