Does anyone have the Ca-Fi Android car stereo? It seems it was recently released. I really want one, and will probably get one.
ca-fi.com/en/
Im debating on ordering one too.... though they list a 800mhz and a 1.2ghz version. Seems the 800mhz version is the only one available
Wish XDA would make a section for it and some custom **** was done with it!
total junk. save your money
I got one yesterday and installed it. Save your money. Its total junk. Was definatelu rushed to market.
No android market (yes you read that right)
Navigation requires data connection either through hsdpa gsm 3g or wifi (meaning you have to provide data for navigation to work at all)
Voice navigation doesnt work (it asks you to install additional files via the market, which again doesnt exist so it fails)
Every time i start the unit it goes to fm radio even when i dont want it to. Force closing the radio app does nothing.
The list goes on and on and on. NEVER AGAIN
shassouneh said:
I got one yesterday and installed it. Save your money. Its total junk. Was definatelu rushed to market.
No android market (yes you read that right)
Navigation requires data connection either through hsdpa gsm 3g or wifi (meaning you have to provide data for navigation to work at all)
Voice navigation doesnt work (it asks you to install additional files via the market, which again doesnt exist so it fails)
Every time i start the unit it goes to fm radio even when i dont want it to. Force closing the radio app does nothing.
The list goes on and on and on. NEVER AGAIN
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Oh that's disappointing. I'm still considering buying one, just to see if I can root it, and fix some of the problems that you listed.
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Oh that's disappointing. I'm still considering buying one, just to see if I can root it, and fix some of the problems that you listed.
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I actually thkught about that too. Problem is you really cant connect it to a pc so any rooting work woukd have to be done via microsd card and run natively in 2.2. Not only that even if you root it theres no gurantee the android market would be installed as the "default" market. This means the voice navigation may never be solved.
Long story short, i am veey disappointed. :-(
that unfortunately, I wanted one for my birthday
shassouneh said:
I actually thkught about that too. Problem is you really cant connect it to a pc so any rooting work woukd have to be done via microsd card and run natively in 2.2. Not only that even if you root it theres no gurantee the android market would be installed as the "default" market. This means the voice navigation may never be solved.
Long story short, i am veey disappointed. :-(
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Doesn't it have a USB port on it?
I made the same mistake of purchasing one. I have been unsuccessful in trying to root it. Z4 will just freeze the device requiring a power cycle. I attempted to connect via USB but did not have any luck using this method either. The problem is that the radio runs both USB ports in Host mode. This keeps it from showing up as a device when you connect it to a computer. I have tried both the front and rear ports with Windows and Linux.
I did manage to get the Android Market app installed. It took a good bit of work and involved copying the Google apps including first boot to an SDcard and sideloading them. The first boot app did break my home button, it currently does nothing and I can't figure out how to re associate it with the launcher.
Once I was able to connect my Google account, I was able to sideload the market apk. Of course, this required working wifi. The dumb device is configured for wifi using a wpa_supplicant file which specifies that 802.1x authentication is required. Seeing as I'm not using this on my wifi, I needed an app called wifi fixer to override this setting. I also needed to setup an unsecured wireless network because I couldn't get wifi-fixer to connect to a wep or wpa network. Once connected, the wireless was very spotty but worked long enough for what I needed.
After all this was completed, I was able to download an offline navigation app, copilot live, that would allow me to use the device as a nav while I wasn't sitting in the driveway connected to the wifi. I did try connecting to my rooted DroidX with CM7 using wifi tether but could not get the radio to complete the connection.
As shassouneh pointed out, it boots into FM Radio every time its powered on. This allows it to start playing music quickly, but is very annoying. I typically stream music from my phone over bluetooth which requires the volume to be much louder than when listening to the FM Radio. When you start the vehicle, the volume is remembered and will be deafening. The FM radio application is very buggy and it will take several attempts to save your radio presets with an acceptable name. It tries to use the digitally broadcast station information as the preset name, but often it just returns garbage. After trying some twenty times, I was able to get most of my presets to read the frequency and the FCC station name. (ex. 93.1 WPOC).
The touch screen is very disappointing. It's a low-quality restive type which requires that you touch below the point you're aiming for. This makes getting to buttons at the very bottom of the screen a challenge. I tried calibrating the screen, but was sent into and endless loop of touching the cross-hairs...
The "Phone" app has all the bluetooth configuration including pairing, contacts, music, etc. it is very rudimentary. The radio frequently fails to connect to my phone on its own and needs to be forced to connect. Sometimes the play button will start the phone playing music and other times it won't. I haven't found a rhyme or reason for it yet. It doesn't support AVRCP and as such you get three buttons when streaming music over bluetooth: Previous, Play/Pause, and Next. There's no indication of which song is playing nor is there any way to browse the music on the phone from the radio.
Overall, the device is absolutely terrible. Perhaps if I could root it, I could fix a number of its annoying characteristics and it wouldn't be so bad. I was most disappointed by the poor wifi and the FM radio at boot. There is such potential here to make an awesome device... Do not waste your money on this piece of garbage no matter how tempting it may be.
Bought one also !!!
I discovered that the product seems to be sold has with another brand :
http://www.ekoore.com/web/en/product/car-hi-fi-2/elija-2/overview-6.html
The point is that they are providing an update.zip containing files and probably could be used for rooting the device. Found the link http://www.ekoore.it/download/elija/update.zip in the italian forum.
From what I understood, this is a 2.3 device ...
Confirmed mine is 2.3.3
Tried several rooting tools (Z4, GingerBreak, Visonnary+, Universal Androot ...) none of these are working.
Wasn't able to dump the rom (no ADB, used terminal with RomDump V7.2) but found that there is a physical switch inside the box. I can have a message displayed "No signal received", just by starting the device while the switch is pressed. Didn't manage to konow if this is bootloader mode or not.
Found a Quick Start guide explaining how to build kernel and so on http://wendang.baidu.com/view/6545cb13a216147917112879.html
Chip TC8900 seems to be used widely for several chinese tablets. So rooting shouldn't be as difficult as it seems. My guess is that the only way to have it rooted is to modify the update.zip above....but I don't know how to do it !!
From what I understood, the radio, BT etc ... parts are not running Android and are something completely different. The only way to switch to an android environment is to go to navigate mode.
Guys,
I'm surprised, I've had this installed in my car for a couple months now and it works great and I do use it daily and thoroughly.
I have installed Android market (couple of minutes, easy to do), have my email, contacts, everything setup, I even get auto updates for installed apps
Bluetooth pairing with both my HD2's works flawlessly and synced all contacts from both phones
The dedicated iPod interface works great with my 160Gb iPod, I have a USB hub in the glovebox with a 2.5" HDD , WiFi dongle and 3g dongle all connected in.
Navigation doesn't require a data connection, I have a several different SatNav apps installed - some online and some offline, but I stick with Waze as I like it..., Waze unfortunately starts up in portrait but that's easily sorted with a press of the home key and Waze also puts up a single warning about battery being flat, but there's no battery, so what would you expect.....
can also listen to good quality internet radio on the move
If you buy a device like this, you've gotta expect a data connection to be required for initial setup of your apps and how you want them, I've run the device without internet, through my phone and through a 3g dongle.
It works properly and reliably with my original steering wheel controls and the way it sets this up is the best I've seen on a in car device and simplicity itself.
It also boots to the last source being played, in my case normally iPod, but if the iPod etc is missing, then it will default to the radio.
The touchscreen isn't the best in the world, but is very useable, if the alignment is out then recalibrate it by holding the back button until the calibration screen appears..
Only thing I really don't like is if you burn some mp3's to a cd/dvd, they play through the dvd interface, not through the android media players.
I genuinely like the unit, it's a nice toy to have in the car and has no more issues than any other android device I've used...
J
Should say that the FM quality is really awful ! Can't even get the RDS working ...
French translation is missing sereval items (or completly false). Got the wifi + market without too much trouble. The touchscreen is usable.
I definitely love to have it rooted
Xitdis said:
Does anyone have the Ca-Fi Android car stereo? It seems it was recently released. I really want one, and will probably get one.
ca-fi.com/en/
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I've got that stuff from their dealer in Russia, I think juliabrothers.net
Cool device. I loved it sound quality, pure, very sharp image. Very quick response. Yes, the touch screen isn't as good as we used to have on smart phones. Still works o.k. Just look at others DVD player made on Windows CE6.0 platform. They ain't better in anyway.
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Should say that the FM quality is really awful ! Can't even get the RDS working ...
French translation is missing sereval items (or completly false). Got the wifi + market without too much trouble. The touchscreen is usable.
I definitely love to have it rooted
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Could you please give me a hint how you manage to install Market on that thing?
Still working on it. Which Android version do you have? I have 2.2
You see, Android Market which built for smart phones doesn't work very well for CAR stereo devices. That Market doesn't differentiate between "good" and harmful applications, which can shut down your system forever.
Remember most of software designed for smart phones doesn't work under CA-FI platforms. Supplier said so, I 'd be happy to be wrong.....
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Confirmed mine is 2.3.3
Tried several rooting tools (Z4, GingerBreak, Visonnary+, Universal Androot ...) none of these are working.
Wasn't able to dump the rom (no ADB, used terminal with RomDump V7.2) but found that there is a physical switch inside the box. I can have a message displayed "No signal received", just by starting the device while the switch is pressed. Didn't manage to konow if this is bootloader mode or not.
Found a Quick Start guide explaining how to build kernel and so on
Chip TC8900 seems to be used widely for several chinese tablets. So rooting shouldn't be as difficult as it seems. My guess is that the only way to have it rooted is to modify the update.zip above....but I don't know how to do it !!
From what I understood, the radio, BT etc ... parts are not running Android and are something completely different. The only way to switch to an android environment is to go to navigate mode.
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Is that possible to use that manual for building a kernel, which could be used instead of pre-installed software? Seems interesting. Any thoughts?
Market came from the 2.3.3 build already installed on device. You probably can try the apk within the update archive http://www.ekoore.it/download/elija/update.zip . As the italian website is quite slow i extracted it. From what i understood update seems to not working on all devices.
Regarding the manual, of course I was thinking it could help for anything like root, recovery image or enabling adb. But honestly i don't have enough knowledge to do myself.
Hi Everyone, just found this thread. I have this unit as well and have been building info on the MP3car site about it, overall i'm happy with the unit although i haven't been able to do everything i want to it.
The audio quality for me is good and i can tether data off of my phone to play internet radio and navigate through waze or otherwise. I'd definately like to see some development in this area myself as there are some welcome improvements to be made. i've sideloaded the market but was never able to update it. the player will default to the last built in media that was played when it shuts down and there seems to be several volume streams built in, i've heard people haven't been able to adjust these with volume apps.
here is the MP3car thread: http://www.mp3car.com/android-tablet/150109-innotrends-ca-fi-on-order-will-review.html
Upon request, here is the update zip from the italian forum. Rename from update.zip to elira-update.zip
elija-update.html
I recently purchased and installed the Ca-Fi "Universal" 620 to replace my JVC head unit that died after 5 years. Because there isn't much information out there about this product, not even from the manufacture, I thought I'd provide the good and bad from an audiophiles perspective(...and I only coin the term audiophile because I have a full on sound system in my car, not because I'm into the lossless debates and all that BS).
The Bad (or the ugly):
-Has an individual RCA jack for subwoofer output. (left/right(white/black, red) is pretty standard. Now I have to buy a sum'er to join the channels. What if I had two subs running left and right channels of bass...I'd be up a creek and would have to buy splitter then a line driver...blah come on.
-Although there is individual subwoofer level control there is no subwoofer (low) frequency control. So, my lows that run to my subwoofer are the lows that will run to my speakers and I can’t do this cause my front stage was meant for highs and mids.
-The Graphic EQ, although having 10+ frequency to set they provide automatic roll off of nearby frequencies so, it's hard to fine tune.If you’re going to give me that many frequencies then please let me control each one of them.
-The balance controls (and all other touch screen sliders)were OK but, they sorely need increase/decrease buttons (i.e. “+” and “-“). Trying to configure a good sound stage is hard with resistive touch screen sliders.
-The P.CNTL (I assume Power Control, again no documentation) is switched off and on when you change sources (or I think actually when no sound is “sensed”) whaa? So now, because my amps have delayed starts, each time I switch a source (or Pandora even buffers a new song) the relay power drops to my amps and I have to wait for my amps to power up again. Not to mention the pops because of the high current switching on and off..man. So now I have to find an off delay relay so my amps don't turn off when I change the source. Now I could very well be the idiot on this one and need to use the P.ANT (I assume power antenna) but, the reason I didn’t is because P.ANT is solid blue wire, whereas P.CNTRL is a blue with white strip which is more industry standard for relay control.
-The boot up source is always going to the Radio. I read some other folks already discuss that here and there but, come on, really, you can't just remember the last source I had.
-Bluetooth (or lack thereof) yes, it will play your music from your phone (in my case HTC Sensation) but, that's about it. If I want to change an artist or song or whatever I have to do it from my phone. I thought it would have this to make me a safer driver so I don't have to look/mess with my phone to get new songs, guess that's what I get for assuming?
-Auto screen Dimmer doesn't work or isn't that great cause I still have to manually dim the screen at night.
-Resistive touchscreen I gotta hammer the screen to push buttons. Each push takes my attention away from the road, no bueno!
-Wifi doesn't support WEP or WPA no biggie since I'm driving and I don't think hackers do drive by hackings (or do they?). But, still sucks cause when I use it at the airport I have to turn it back on. Just a nuisance but, wifi WILL tether (provided you buy the additional USB Wifi Adapter).
-Some Apps don't recognize my wifi connection and thus will not work. Case in point, Google Maps. wft! the whole reason I got the thing was to wifi tether with my phone and control goolge maps from ca-fi. Nope can't do it. booo.
-Double DIN – not really. I don’t know what standards they followed but, my original brackets from my original Double DIN HU (head unit) didn’t work. The unit sticks out so far my radio door won’t close and there’s a gap of about .25 inches on both sides. No install kits will work with this because it’s not truly a standard Double DIN.
The Good
-The bluetooth phone capabilities work good. Contact list is ok. Of course it sucks for me because of the whole P.CNTRL thing. Yes, when I switch to Phone it turns off and on my amps…grrr.
-Mini SD card slots and a miniUSB port in front, very nice/convenient.
-System isn’t as slow as one might think for such a “slow” processor. My HTC Sensation runs circles around this thing ;p.
-Nice interface for the radio.
-You can run Apps. Although a lot of them crash (i.e. Force Close) every now and then for no apparent reason.
-Pandora works (with wifi tether) very nicely.
-Push button (knob) for mute and knob volume control.
….that’s all I’ve got for now but, so far the goods don’t out weight the bads so, I’m not happy with regards to the amount of money I spent vs. what I’m getting vs. what actually works. I’m not upset because I went into this fully knowing I was going to be a guinea pig but, if you’re a music first, apps and other **** second, kind of person like me steer clear my friends.
Not that any manufacture ever cares or even reacts to forum post, I’m going to try and communicate this to the manufacture and hopefully see if a) they’re aware of these issues and b)if they plan to release fixes/patches to help their “new adopters” out. Don’t get me wrong this company has a great product and great idea but, they’re seriously mistaken if they think they can compete with the big boys (Android Apps or no Android Apps).
What do jou Guys/girls think about this product....... http://www.chinavasion.com/2-din-ca...chable-android-23-tablet-panel-wifi-gps-dvbt/
I find it very interesting
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Hey guys, I upgraded to the Atrix from my Tilt2... I set up the bluetooth with my car (Audi A5) and the calling works fine but the car no loner imports my SIM contacts, recent calls, missed calls, and dialed calls list that my Tilt2 used to send over. Those options on the car are now just blank. Is there anyway to enable this? The bluetooth profile on both phones is just listed as "hands free". Is there any way to fix this or enable other connection profiles to send that data like my last phone did?
Thanks guys
I can pair my Atrix is my BMW 3-series but when it tries to download the phone book the BT connection drops. Sometimes I can start to make a call but it will drop the connection.
I can connect all my BB's and my HTC Inspire 4G just fine.
I think there is something wrong with the BT stack.
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I can pair my Atrix is my BMW 3-series but when it tries to download the phone book the BT connection drops. Sometimes I can start to make a call but it will drop the connection.
I can connect all my BB's and my HTC Inspire 4G just fine.
I think there is something wrong with the BT stack.
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I think you may be right... I did some more online searching after the post and stumbled upon an Audi forum where multiple people have lost the ability on several different car models after moving to a stock android device... however, it appears things fix themselves with CM roms which may have a more sophisticated BT stack. I wonder if it's hopeless about having that capability until 2.3 or the bootloader is cracked?
If I can't get this fixed soon then I will be forced to return this phone.
How can they screw up something so simple??
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Hey guys, I upgraded to the Atrix from my Tilt2... I set up the bluetooth with my car (Audi A5) and the calling works fine but the car no loner imports my SIM contacts, recent calls, missed calls, and dialed calls list that my Tilt2 used to send over. Those options on the car are now just blank. Is there anyway to enable this? The bluetooth profile on both phones is just listed as "hands free". Is there any way to fix this or enable other connection profiles to send that data like my last phone did?
Thanks guys
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I have this same problem in my Chevy Volt. Sometimes the phonebook works (but very slowly) but the call lists never work. Also seems to take a very long time to pair initially.
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A lot of cars can only import the phone book from the SIM card. Not from any other application on the phone.
So if your phone book is in Google Contacts or some other application...you'll need to port it into the SIM card itself for most cars to be able to read it.
Return it. I have new A4 and atrix pairs fine. I actually think its the clearest device I've used in my car yet
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"I have new A4 and atrix pairs fine."
And do you know WHICH phone book your numbers are in, or which phone books the A4 can pair with?
If his BT is connecting, and the phone is working over BT, there's no reason to think the phone is defective. yet.
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I think you may be right... I did some more online searching after the post and stumbled upon an Audi forum where multiple people have lost the ability on several different car models after moving to a stock android device... however, it appears things fix themselves with CM roms which may have a more sophisticated BT stack. I wonder if it's hopeless about having that capability until 2.3 or the bootloader is cracked?
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It's not a BT Stack problem...it's an Audi problem (or BMW, etc...). The manufacturers need to program their devices for Android. The ability to grab contacts and such isn't a standard bluetooth handsfree device option. It has to do something extra. How it *handles* that extra something differs by device...which is why some don't work with Android devices.
On top of that, there's a dialogue when you first pair the device that asks if it should have access to your contacts, call lists, etc...that you have to "Allow" or it won't ever be able to get those lists. It's been the same way on every Android phone I've ever used. If you don't hit Allow within 10 seconds the dialogue will go away and never come back...unless you unpair and re-pair the device. Try doing this and seeing if the dialogue comes up. If it doesn't, it's an issue with the way your Audi/BMW polls for contacts.
BTW works perfectly with my Kenwood receiver.
Ziuck said:
If I can't get this fixed soon then I will be forced to return this phone.
How can they screw up something so simple??
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"They" didn't. Audi/BMW did. They didn't spend enough time programming to figure out that Android handles contacts slightly differently. Put blame where it's due.
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"They" didn't. Audi/BMW did. They didn't spend enough time programming to figure out that Android handles contacts slightly differently. Put blame where it's due.
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I have the 08' audi a4 and my contacts sync just fine, as do the missed calls.
" my contacts sync just fine"
SIM card contacts? Google Contacts? Exactly which or what "contacts" ?
Hi, new user here to searched and figured it'd be better to post in this thread rather than starting a new one.
I'm another Atrix user who is having issues with pairing the Atrix to a bluetooth car kit. I've got the VW Touch Phone Kit (rebadged Bury CC9060) which used to work perfectly with my previous Samsung Omnia as well as my partner's Samsung S8500. The problem I have was that with the 1.57 firmware, I could initially pair the phone and it would sync the phonebook up fine so that I could make or receive any number of calls without a hitch. But the issue was when I switched the ignition off then back on, the Atrix appears to pair correctly, it'll grab the phonebook but cannot make or grab any incoming calls. When dialing from the phonebook, it will initiate the call then drop out while the call still goes through. Incoming calls just aren't picked up at all. If I deleted the pairing and paired the phone up to the car kit again, it'd work until the first ignition off and back on again.
After I updated to the 1.83 firmware, this no longer works for me at all even though it appears to pair correctly and syncs the phonebook as well.
I've looked into upgrading the software on the car kit but I'm already on v0181 which is the latest for the VW branded kit. The Bury CC9060 kit has available a v0235 update but won't load on the VW kit as it does a checksum check. I'm looking at possibly editing the flasher to bypass the checksum check.
Has anyone else used the Atrix with this car kit and experiencing the same issues?
Thanks in advance
fmflex
A quick bump.
I find it hard to believe that I'm the only one using an Atrix with this car kit...
I really wanted to buy a car kit, I was even willing to pay the rather high price. Then i saw tht the Atrix just "snaps it" with those two spring arms.
You know what happens in an accident? The phone will fly out as a missle. Good luck finding it, if you were doing 30 when you got slammed, the phone will still be doing 30 when it launches out of the clips.
If it doesn't hit you, you still won't be able to find it or call 911 on it.
So, nice dock, I'm holding off for something that can be used "in case of accident". For that price, I expect a more robust product, designed to survive. (Note to Moto, calls Mercedes and speak to crash safety team.)
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"They" didn't. Audi/BMW did. They didn't spend enough time programming to figure out that Android handles contacts slightly differently. Put blame where it's due.
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I am not sure that the blame can be directed to the car makers not suiting the android configuration.
I had concerns about Androids paring car bluetooth, so when my wife got her Samsung running Froyo before i purchased the Atrix, I tested it on my 2010 A4 and it all worked faultlessly. All phonebook, dialled, missed calls & received calls. All her contacts are stored on the Phone too, not the SIM. It actually worked better with it than my old Nokia's, and my old iPhone 3G. All of which had contacts stored on the phone not the SIM.
Being in my car all day, I had to make sure it the Atrix running Froyo would work too, and that's why I tested it with my wifes phone before buying the Atrix.
I would have to say that the problem does have something to do with how the Atrix handles bluetooth. I have been having all the same issues that other users are having.
To be fair to the Atrix, I had only one problem when I originanlly bought it and that was loading the contacts from the phones storage, all the other options were working and it never displayed the annoying error message and it never dropped the connection either.
This has only started playing up completely since I rooted it and installed HeLauncher with Fancy widgets (maybe it's just a coincidence, but its unlikely i think IMHO).
I have since uninstalled the HeLauncher and Fancy Widgets, and yet the problem is still there, so I have no realistic reason why it isn't working anymore.
Because i work for Audi, I will check at work why this issue might be happening ( just with the Atrix not all the other Android phones) and see if their is anything that can be done to fix the issue.
Hi Staunch
I'd be very interested in what you can find out about this issue. I've basically got nothing out of VW and their official stand is that the atrix isn't compatible.
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Hi Staunch
I'd be very interested in what you can find out about this issue. I've basically got nothing out of VW and their official stand is that the atrix isn't compatible.
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Ok, I have tried connectivity with the current version of MMI and it seems to pair up with NO error messages at all. It would appear at this stage that the new MMI generation have the "issue" fixed. I am still waiting for a reply from Service Technical Support to answer why the issue exists on the older MMI generations. It would appear that Audi in conjection with Apple focused their MMI setup for iOS, not considering Android OS's.
Will keep you updated once I have some more information about previous versions of MMI.
Blame the cars not the phone.
My phone works 100% well and perfect with my Acura.
I've also had fun trying to get my E46 3 Series BMW ULF BT module to talk to the Atrix - has no issues speaking to an older Nokia phone. Anyway after a LOT of experimentation I've finally pinned down the root cause of the problem, text messages (SMS).
I've yet to figure out the specific trigger but it is either the number of messages or something in a specific message it doesn't like. I figured this out because I noticed the envelope icon coming up on the BMW screen for 5-10 seconds before the bluetooth would drop out each time after connecting the pairing. Each connection only lasts 15 seconds at most.
Anyway there were 193 SMS messages in the car memory, maybe the 194th message was upsetting it. I deleted almost all the 1150 SMS messages in my phone and it was only when I got rid of all of them that it connected. I then had to manually clear the SMS messages in the BMW one by one (took a long while).
I then did some testing whereby I sent an SMS or two to my phone. I noted that the Atrix seems to periodly get asked to upload messages to the car. You can delete them in the car but if they are still on the phone, they come back shortly after. They always show as unread on the BMW unless you read them on the car screen. Reading them on the phone has no affect. Maybe the SMS side of BT headset support is borked on the Atrix.
So my conclusion is that while I don't know the detailed trigger specifics, for BMWs at least the Atrix Bluetooth issue comes down to SMS messages. My large contacts directory uploads in its entirety without an issue. The solution for reliable BT connectivity to the Atrix and a BMW seems to be in SMS message management. Get yourself a copy of SMS Backup from the market when you experiment.
Hope this helps others!
Matt
Is it possible to replace the bluetooth stack? I am using stock 198_7 rooted, but locked with a few mods such as the hdmi hack. I find that my bluetooth cuts off intermittently. It's most annoying with my microsoft keyboard 5000, which then needs to be paired again. when it happens to the jawbone icon headset, I can just turn bluetooth on and off. Usually with that, it happens during netflix streaming. I do find that the microsoft mouse 6000 works perfectly.
I did try CM9 for a few days. I didn't notice any bluetooth problems on that. However, I can't use my webtop, which I use regularly. I also can't use netflix, which I am addicted to. So I was wondering if it were possible to switch. I tried swapping the apks, but it didn't seem to make a difference.
any thoughts/ideas?
Thanks,
I agree with you, the Motorola bluetooth implementation is terrible and needs to be replaced. I have the same problems as you with devices randomly disconnecting and reconnecting while listening to music or netflix. When I answer the phone the bluetooth doesn't pick up, I have to quickly hit the "Bluetooth" button on the dialer screen to turn it off and hit it again to turn it back on before my caller can hear me. I'm using a Motorola Droid 3 and I keep going with Motorola because of the keyboard, but these bluetooth problems are so aggravating that they may drive me away from Motorola. I had the same problems with my Droid 1 and I really want the Droid 4 but they've got to get these problems fixed. I even bought a Motorola headset, the HX550, hoping that there was just a compatibility problem with my Jawbone Icon, but the problems continue. Maybe just maybe we'll get the attention of someone who can fix it.
Logcat attached.
I've been having this issue since I bought the phone. I'm hoping someone can help. I've attached a succinct logcat of the issue, hoping to catch a devs eye. It seems completely independent of the ROM, GB vs ICS, or applications installed. I've tried everything out there and have started thinking about how to build a kang, but I don't know enough about the problem to know how to solve it.
I really don't know what else to do, but there are times where I want to throw my phone out the window of my car at 80MPH. I love my Photon, so that prevents the carnage, but OMG it's frustrating!
I'm hoping Sprint... or some entity in-the-know will release a resolution to this problem. I know it's a dead horse, but it only takes one moment of brilliance during a coffee fueled manic episode to have a break thru!
Thanks in advance to any devs looking at this.
This fix worked for me! YMMV
UPDATE!:
It turns out that the Bluetooth Share processes are interupting the data stream while the music plays. Since Bluetooth generally can't handle more than one thing at a time, I suspect that the share services are trying to make the connection do too much. This will disable your ability to share files and phonebook, but for me, those are all secondary to my tunes!
I found a solution here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18723490&postcount=16
And instead of freezing the Bluetooth.apk services, I just did the following in the terminal:
HTML:
su
cd /system/app/
mv Bluetooth.apk Bluetooth.apk.bak
Rebooted into recovery.
Cleared the cache.
Rebooted system.
And done. That was a lot simpler than I thought it would be.
Standard disclaimer: If your phone stops working, it is not my responsibility. I don't foresee any issues, but just in case, you have been warned. Good luck!
This is actually used in many different settings. Such as backups, removing problem apps, testing, many more. Nice you found a great new use for this.
The best thing about renaming the it to a .bak or .bin is that the app is still intact and is basically a backup and can be restored very easily.
Sent from my MB855 using xda premium
A few days ago I bought a device called GMATE ($80), a type of smallcell without display or keyboard which is inserted a normal simcard and communicating via Bluetooth to the Samsung Galaxy Player, which means an application is integrated with android, receiving and making phone calls, and SMS, in addition to allowing internet access GPRS.
It's a perfect combination that increases the possibilities of Our Player
IPhones must be jailbroken, a repo is added to Cydia, and then the Gmate app is installed for the integrated Gmate functionality. How does this work in Android?
In GooglePlay you can download a Gmate aplication that integrates the gadget with your android player (also convert your android phone in a double sim phone) and uses android phone's features like dialer, contacts, or any thirtd party aplication likes rocket Dial.
Received and Make calls don´t need special features, if you uses the Gprs/edge to internet (in places with no WIFI) need to be rooted.
The application is not compatible with my U.S. 5.0 Player.
CreekDirt said:
The application is not compatible with my U.S. 5.0 Player.
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Go to skyroam webpage and ask for a .apk file, i have Intl 5.0 and working great, sometimes any aplication in GooglePlay seems to be incompatible for my SG player but, on a external apk source works fine.
Dutch 5.0
Thank you for the info! I will definitely buy one if it works in The Netherlands.
That does look interesting.
Anyone using it with the USA version?
Is there something similar that i can connect it to my player or to put it in the galaxy player? So this wey i dony have to worry if i get out of 10 neters or jf i fodget it at home
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Wow, wonderful find. I was looking for exacly something like this. Unfortunately, With ICS CM9 installed on my GP5 Bluetooth doesn't work =( (neither does the camera or hardware acceleration. They really need to fix that.)
So I can make phone calls/sms without having wifi?
oncaribe said:
A few days ago I bought a device called GMATE ($80), a type of smallcell without display or keyboard which is inserted a normal simcard and communicating via Bluetooth to the Samsung Galaxy Player, which means an application is integrated with android, receiving and making phone calls, and SMS, in addition to allowing internet access GPRS.
It's a perfect combination that increases the possibilities of Our Player
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With the Gmate app, can your SGP connect to a regular cell phone with bluetooth or it can only connect to the Gmate?
testrider said:
With the Gmate app, can your SGP connect to a regular cell phone with bluetooth or it can only connect to the Gmate?
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Gmate only.. I tried it with my other android phone and it doesn't work.
I came further when I changed my phone's Bluetooth id to "Gmate". It didn't connect because of a password failure
It's seems good
I don't quite understand... So besides buying the Gmate, would i need a sim card as well? secondly so would i practically be using a sim card with a data plan to use with gmate? but wouldnt that defeat the purpose of just using a smart phone with a card in it?.... these are all continuation Q's if the first is a yes lol.
This seems like a stupid question, but I'll ask anyway. How well does the device actually work? Does it keep a connection throughout the day, sending and receiving text messages without too much delay? I'm considering using this to replace my old dumbphone, but I'd rather not plunk down a sizable chunk of change with little indication as to how well this thing actually works.
Gmate calling speaker sound
Question: Does the sound come out of the front speaker while calling?
(I don't like to call everywhere with loud back speakers)
crowelfly said:
Question: Does the sound come out of the front speaker while calling?
(I don't like to call everywhere with loud back speakers)
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I don't know about GMate, but on Groove IP (and probably others), the front speaker on the 5.0 is quite functional and is used for calls.
Mevordel said:
I don't know about GMate, but on Groove IP (and probably others), the front speaker on the 5.0 is quite functional and is used for calls.
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Thank you for the info!
P.S. I like your rom a lot!
Cool!
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EDIT: I HAVE FIXED THE MAIN ISSUE WITH MY GMATE, MORE INFORMATION BELOW
Well, my Gmate+ came in the mail today, and I've been playing with it for a little while now and am able to give first impressions. First off, the device is much smaller than I imagined, it easily fits in my palm, the vibration (on the plus version) is very loud. As for the function itself, it works. You can call and send and receive text messages (haven't tested the web access yet) with a few minor (and one major) annoyances. My device is currently a US SGP 4.0 running Terrasilent 1.1 and EtherealRom 2.3.
Minor annoyances I have found with the Gmate+:
- Notifications (read: texts) do not make noise/vibrate while the screen is locked. Once the screen goes on, if you do have a new text, it notifies you, kind of ruining the point of the notification.
- Text messages you send have proper time stamps, for some reason, the ones you receive are off by a few hours, as if the sender is in a different time zone
- Seems to be no way to delete contacts from the address book, even uninstalling, wiping data, reinstalling didn't do anything about this.
Major annoyance with the Gmate+:
- It disconnects, and by that I mean it disconnects ALL THE TIME, the device is pretty much useless because of this, it will be fine for a few minutes, then disconnect, regardless of how close the Gmate is to my SGP. Every few minutes, I'd check it, and guess what? No connection. Sometimes it would reconnect, sometimes I'd have to manually do it, sometimes I'd have to restart one or both devices to get it to work again.
Seeing as everything the device does it actually does quite well when actually connected, I want to rule this problem to some battery saving tweak in my kernel/rom. As such, I'll be returning to stock and trying the Gmate again to see if any of these issues are cleared up. As it stands, I have a 75$ paperweight that buzzes occasionally.
EDIT: After flashing back to stock and noticing no change, I began searching around and found other people having similar problems with similar devices, mainly connecting their smartphones to the bluetooth sound system in their car. Turns out in Deep Sleep, the device has issues keeping constant bluetooth connection. After downloading an app (Bluetooth KeepAlive: ~$1.30) on the market that keeps the device from entering this mode, the Gmate no longer disconnects, and has remained connected for several days, having no problem with calls or text messages at any time. In summary, with this app, I am now happy to recommend the Gmate to anyone who is looking for this kind of functionality. Guess it goes to show that non compatible apps are listed in the Play Store as non working for a reason
Since changing roms, I had to repair the BT in my car with the phone.
My car supports the hands free profile and piping of media (play music on phone, hear it on car speakers).
After re-pairing the two, I had strange media play back. It would stutter every half second or so, as though the signal was getting interrupted.
Made one test phone call to see if that worked as it should, and it did, no disruption in the sound. Subsequently, tried the media playback again (no changes in any BT settings). This time it played back correctly.
Unpaired everything and repeated. Same results. It would appear something isn't getting set correctly in the BT pairing until a phone call is actually made. Similar behavior was noticed on the stock rom too (currently have charmeleon installed).
A few other people have found this same problem. It doesn't look like there is a permanent fix for it just yet. There are discussions about this on AndroidCentral as well as Sprint Community but since I'm a new member here, I can't post links right now.
According to the post on Sprint Community, HTC is aware and hopefully looking into it.
If you want the links, send me a PM and I'll send them to you.
^^Thanks for the update. You can still post links, but indirectly.
www google com /{rest of url} should work.
This issue isn't a deal breaker for me as I rarely use this function. Occasionally when traveling long distances. I have a 32GB usb flash drive that has most of my music on it which works quite well.
Ok, let's try this. Here are the two links I was talking about.
forums.androidcentral com/htc-evo-4g-lte/178321-strange-bluetooth-issue.html
community.sprint com/baw/message/430140?tstart=0
It's not a deal breaker for me, but only because the workaround is so easy, although temporary.
Hmm.. There seems to be a common thread (mostly) that most of the folks have an infiniti product (self included) who are experiencing this.
Although I didn't test, I wonder if the work around has to be invoked each time the car/phone is paired?
Thanks for the links!
I have to do the workaround each time I turn the car on. Just make a quick call to voicemail over Bluetooth, hang up and voila, error free audio. I never have to impair/pair the connection manually.
Sent from my Evo 4g LTE
Any updates to this?
Hi all,
Recently got myself a Ulefone Armor 2. The device is not too bad so far. I switched to it after cracking my Power2's screen multiple times. It comes with a stupidly basic Android 7. So I just wanted to start a thread to see if anyone's got their hands on it and started hacking around. See the bookmarks below for all things customisation.
I've edited this first post multiple times to reflect the recent developments. Some people got root & Magisk working see links after my first remarks:
About the latest Software Update (aka 20180224_s21v57c2k_gq_fp or S21 GQ3037LF2 Ulefone V12 20171009-Update 20180224):
alpsayin said:
Nope, it's not the same. Something is fundamentally off with this ROM. Accessibility services get turned off automatically every time screen goes off. Half the background apps are killed every time screen stays off for a minute too. I've already reverted back to what I had before. I suggest stay away from this build.
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If you've updated your phone to latest ROM use the below instructions to revert back but use https://www.needrom.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/S21_GQ3037LF2_Ulefone_V12_20171009.zip instead of the latest one:
[/U]https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74294320&postcount=31
First remarks:
-Some people and I are having problems with USB-C headphone adapter (https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/ulefone-armor-2-t3684566/post74367962#post74367962)
-Device bluetooth volume level is separate from the headset's volume. (EDIT: fixed with recent ROM update)
-Adaptive brightness might be a tad bit aggressive in my opinion so I switched it off. (EDIT: less aggressive with recent ROM update)
-Android Pay does NOT work. It says device is not verified (which is sad, I really wanted this to work). (EDIT: works now with also recent ROM update).
-Camera button launches a camera app if you press for 5 seconds only. Useful to trigger underwater.
-SOS button needs 5 seconds push to start calling emergency contacts, but even then it causes a lot of pocket dialling.
-PTT button only works inside the Zello app. Kinda wish these buttons could be reassigned for other things (EDIT: see this reply https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74451451&postcount=78).
-Generally buttons are easy to push, i change the volume every time I put the phone in my pocket, then again i might just need to get used to having a brick with 4g.
-Speakers are not great, but it's indeed waterproof. Took it into shower and gave it a good abuse.
-Fingerprint sensor is a bit annoying at times but I believe this might be because I was sent a phone with improperly attached screen protector. (EDIT: it was the badly aligned screen protector)
-Power menu doesn't have the shortcut to the power saving mode that I like so much
-Be gentle with your USB-C cap, mine broke. It's still waterproof, but now it's pretty easy to lose the cap.
-If you wanna save some serious battery, disable Google App data backup (App backup&restore).
-Sports mode in battery settings will make the phone "snappier" probably at the expense of battery life.
BOOKMARKS:
ROM Stuff (some need TWRP)
See this reply for instructions to update to recent ROM:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74294320&postcount=31
TWRP Flashable Stock ROM with Magisk Root (Android Pay working, Buttons disabled, needs opengapps)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74749806&postcount=174
Restore or write IMEI numbers:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74450547&postcount=76
TWRP
See these replies for root and TWRP (v1, legacy):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74399450&postcount=60
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74429860&postcount=68
See these replies for TWRP without OTG and root (v2, now also legacy):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74488885&postcount=96
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74490010&postcount=97
English TWRP in zip and img formats, also something about Forced Encryption (v3, but also follow instructions from v2)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75544568&postcount=281
Magisk and Root
Summary of SuperSU, Magisk, Xposed and Android Pay compatibilities:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74580626&postcount=135
Magisk Installation (legacy, but use it for instructions):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74472235&postcount=89
Latest Magisk (permissive, hidelist persists, allowing module installation, yay!):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75803660&postcount=299
Re-flashing STOCK ROM and/or updating Magisk while keeping data (requires TWRP)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75064226&postcount=223
Audio Issues
Fix for Armor 2 Bluetooth Disconnect Issue
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75461843&postcount=279
Audio not routing through or unstable USB-C headphone jack?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/ulefone-armor-2-t3684566/post74621805#post74621805
Tweaks (Buttons, Persistent Notifications)
How to disable default PTT & SOS functions and replace functionalities (requires ROOT):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74445439&postcount=72
How to get rid of Persistent NFC notification
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75049379&postcount=216
Fingerprint scanner is NOT SECURE
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75796254&postcount=297
Credits: @sumec100 @djvinniev77 @enzovic @Sebastl @jemmini (? from 4pda.ru) @TuksOID @sargon__
Have you had any software issues and can you assign anything else other than emergency contacts to the SOS button? I have an LG X Power with a cracked screen and have been looking into this phone because the doogee s60 and bv8000 pro both show problems and I don't feel like spending 600 for a cat s60 or s41
Sent from my LG-K450 using XDA-Developers Legacy app
Wish there was a way I could disable the sos button on my doogee s60
Hi,
i got mine a week ago, and i think this phone is really great so far. Only thing i'm missing is a way to root it, i have tried everything i could find, but nothing has worked so far.
Tommy
I really wanted to like this phone, but Bluetooth is essencial to me, and I cant keep a Bluetooth audio connection constant with out disconnects and connects randomly, is very frustrating, I was expecting a better quality of the audio of the internal speaker when making calls, the holes of the back speaker one is a dummy the is no sound from it, and battery is good but not so good for the capacity, I was expecting more, and the camera is really sub par with a slow auto focus. I why didn't they make the screws of the sim compartment flush with case, was so simple.
fluis70 said:
I really wanted to like this phone, but Bluetooth is essencial to me, and I cant keep a Bluetooth audio connection constant with out disconnects and connects randomly, is very frustrating, I was expecting a better quality of the audio of the internal speaker when making calls, the holes of the back speaker one is a dummy the is no sound from it, and battery is good but not so good for the capacity, I was expecting more, and the camera is really sub par with a slow auto focus. I why didn't they make the screws of the sim compartment flush with case, was so simple.
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I just tested the Bluetooth on a speaker, i had no issues with it. As for the battery, there is a lot of settings you can tweak, and turn off all of the Google draining apps. I have installed Greenify too.
Camera is not the best, but it does the job. We get what we pay for, and for that price i cannot expect to get a better phone, that probably would survive a nuclear war lol
tmiland said:
I just tested the Bluetooth on a speaker, i had no issues with it. As for the battery, there is a lot of settings you can tweak, and turn off all of the Google draining apps. I have installed Greenify too.
Camera is not the best, but it does the job. We get what we pay for, and for that price i cannot expect to get a better phone, that probably would survive a nuclear war lol
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I'm glad that you having a better experience with Bluetooth, I do hope that I can solve my problems with it.
I also just bought an Armor 2, and I also want to be able to configure the ptt and sos buttons in a better way. I hope people who know about this give us a hand. regards
I can assign emergency contacts to SOS button. Multiple ones in fact; if first person doesn't answer automatically calls the next one and so on. I was just curious to give them other functionalities, such as launching apps.
tony442 said:
Have you had any software issues and can you assign anything else other than emergency contacts to the SOS button? I have an LG X Power with a cracked screen and have been looking into this phone because the doogee s60 and bv8000 pro both show problems and I don't feel like spending 600 for a cat s60 or s41
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Did anyone manage to get Android Pay working? Android Pay doesn't verify the android, I was really looking forward to being able to use it...
I just got mine, love it for the price but unfortunately didn't read about android pay. I just tried and yep, no good to add payment cards. If you have a banking app that accepts card integration, it works that way, so it's just android pay/Google security.
Now, has anyone tried downloading the latest official ROM from needrom? They cite one from 10/9, I tried to install after ensuring the device is properly detected and the process fails. Something about Brom incompatible.
Not sure if anyone here has had successes with flashing MediaTek based devices, any tips?
djvinniev77 said:
I just got mine, love it for the price but unfortunately didn't read about android pay. I just tried and yep, no good to add payment cards. If you have a banking app that accepts card integration, it works that way, so it's just android pay/Google security.
Now, has anyone tried downloading the latest official ROM from needrom? They cite one from 10/9, I tried to install after ensuring the device is properly detected and the process fails. Something about Brom incompatible.
Not sure if anyone here has had successes with flashing MediaTek based devices, any tips?
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Well, I was using a ulefone power 2 before this one. SP Flash tool version >5 works great. You just need to make sure device is fully powered off and connect usb cable. It might get into a bootloop, but if you start the flashing process while it's off it will get off of the bootloop and flash it. Hopefully at least.
I am using TSB, Santander, and nationwide. I guess none of them has card integration?
I'm searching a custom-Rom (lineageOS) for Armor 2. This Link ( rootmygalaxy[dot]net/lineage-os-15-for-ulefone-armor-2/) says "download it", but I can't found the Rom.
If I would self-compile it. Where I can find the driver for Armor 2?
With regards to android pay, I emailed ulefone support and they noted that they are working on it, need to get the keys to fix. They asked for device IMEI and will try to make the update via OTA. You can email them from their website. Looking at 3 weeks but I'm not counting on it. At least someone replied right away.
djvinniev77 said:
I just got mine, love it for the price but unfortunately didn't read about android pay. I just tried and yep, no good to add payment cards. If you have a banking app that accepts card integration, it works that way, so it's just android pay/Google security.
Now, has anyone tried downloading the latest official ROM from needrom? They cite one from 10/9, I tried to install after ensuring the device is properly detected and the process fails. Something about Brom incompatible.
Not sure if anyone here has had successes with flashing MediaTek based devices, any tips?
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i installed the last room (nedroom) yesterday and was ok ok, i had a problem with connecting the usb (did not want to run the download process), helped "volume up" ON , the phone off, and then connect the usb to the pc and when I started process the "volume up" OFF , it started Mint 18.2 cinnamon 64-bit, SP_Flash_Tool_v5.1728_Linux - run as root , the MTKxxxx driver setting, for linux is here on XDA.
I would also be happy for recovery and root for armor 2.
with greetings of sumec.
sumec100 said:
i installed the last room (nedroom) yesterday and was ok ok, i had a problem with connecting the usb (did not want to run the download process), helped "volume up" ON , the phone off, and then connect the usb to the pc and when I started process the "volume up" OFF , it started Mint 18.2 cinnamon 64-bit, SP_Flash_Tool_v5.1728_Linux - run as root , the MTKxxxx driver setting, for linux is here on XDA.
I would also be happy for recovery and root for armor 2.
with greetings of sumec.
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Nice. Did you wipe everything or was it an in place update that retained your data?
djvinniev77 said:
Nice. Did you wipe everything or was it an in place update that retained your data?
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I deleted everything like a new phone. If you have a backup date so when you start offering a recovery from a backup or as a new phone. Every update to rom through flashtool makes full wipe data, so it's a good root and recovery.
Is there any way of disabling that wretched camera button ? I am fed up with clicking noises from my pocket as it takes shots, and deleting them all afterwards....
Gnubi said:
Wish there was a way I could disable the sos button on my doogee s60
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I use the APP "Button Mapper" Ver: 0.54 Free
You can reconfigure PTT and SOS buttons to open your desired Apps.
You can also disable operation with the Lock-screen
My actual configuration for PTT button is:
Short press: Nothing,
Long press WhatsApp,
Double press: switch between DND, Vibrate and Outdoor sound mode
and for SOS:
Short press: Nothing,
Long press: PayPal
Double press: Shazam
wilkofife said:
Is there any way of disabling that wretched camera button ? I am fed up with clicking noises from my pocket as it takes shots, and deleting them all afterwards....
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Camera button requires pro version, but I can live without it :good:
I noticed today that my USB-C to headphone jack cable is not working. Anyone else had that problem?
Also, ButtonMapper works great but sometimes it causes a soft reboot...