I know we've already had threads about this before, but seeing as how no one ever had a solution to this issue i thought i'd check back in again and see.
overview: the problem when you use a USB car charger dongle, like this one:
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is that it will register as "charging USB" and will charge much much slower then if it was doing it via "charging AC".
I know that if you open one of those things up and short out the 2 data connectors that will resolve the issue... but does anyone know of any of these that are already setup & ready to go to allow the "charging AC" mode and charge our phones normally?
I have this Belkin USB car charger and it not only registers and charges as A/C it keeps up with using nav and listening to books in the car.
Belkin
And I also have this one that does the same
iPhone Universal
Can someone show me a screenshot of the "charging USB" and "charging AC" indicators? The RZD is my second HTC phone and I've read mentions of these two different states of charging, but I've never noticed any indicator that I was getting anything other than an "AC" charge. That said, the OEM HTC car chargers supposedly supply a full 1A because the D+ and D- pins are shorted. I have one on the way and when I get it in a few days, I will report on my findings. Assuming that I can tell which mode my phone is charging in when I connect it.
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Can someone show me a screenshot of the "charging USB" and "charging AC" indicators? The RZD is my second HTC phone and I've read mentions of these two different states of charging, but I've never noticed any indicator that I was getting anything other than an "AC" charge. That said, the OEM HTC car chargers supposedly supply a full 1A because the D+ and D- pins are shorted. I have one on the way and when I get it in a few days, I will report on my findings. Assuming that I can tell which mode my phone is charging in when I connect it.
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No time to upload screenshots right now but if you go into Settings > About Phone > Battery and right at the top it will say
Not Charging
Charging A/C
Charging USB
Depending on what you are doing and how it is hooked up.
This is an easy fix and it should work on most chargers that have this problem.
I had this problem with the Griffin PowerJolt Dual Universal Micro that I bought for my TouchPro2. To fix it all you have to do is open up the housing (make sure you don't lose any parts, some are under tension and have the tendency to fly away) and solder together the two middle solder points on the usb connector. I have attached an image of what you should look for.Just make sure you do not accidentally solder to either pin 1 or 4 as they are the +V and -V. Once you solder the middle pins together you should be able to reassemble the charger and you phone should see it as an ac charger and will be able to charge faster. Let me know if this works for you.
icy1899 said:
This is an easy fix and it should work on most chargers that have this problem.
I had this problem with the Griffin PowerJolt Dual Universal Micro that I bought for my TouchPro2. To fix it all you have to do is open up the housing (make sure you don't lose any parts, some are under tension and have the tendency to fly away) and solder together the two middle solder points on the usb connector. I have attached an image of what you should look for.Just make sure you do not accidentally solder to either pin 1 or 4 as they are the +V and -V. Once you solder the middle pins together you should be able to reassemble the charger and you phone should see it as an ac charger and will be able to charge faster. Let me know if this works for you.
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i'll have to get another dongle and try that. what i did try was cutting open a micro USB cable and disconnecting the green & white cables(data), putting it back together and trying it out but then it still said "charging USB" and didn't seem to make a difference.
NilsP said:
I have this Belkin USB car charger and it not only registers and charges as A/C it keeps up with using nav and listening to books in the car.
Belkin
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There are a lot of reviews from the above that say it still charges via USB only and not A/C. Seems hit or miss.
It may depend on how much power the charger supplies. Some may not give a full 1A and some dual charger may only give .5A per port.
voxigenboy said:
i'll have to get another dongle and try that. what i did try was cutting open a micro USB cable and disconnecting the green & white cables(data), putting it back together and trying it out but then it still said "charging USB" and didn't seem to make a difference.
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You have to short them, so hook them together!
NilsP said:
I have this Belkin USB car charger and it not only registers and charges as A/C it keeps up with using nav and listening to books in the car.
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What do you mean by keeps up with nav and listening to books?
I'm hoping I can navigate my phone's mp3s using my car stereo. I tried plugging it into the car's usb port that works for my ipod but it didn't read anything when I went to the usb tab on my car's screen.
I've ordered that Belkin charger based on your suggestion in the audio thread but haven't received it yet. Hoping that's what you're talking about and that I'll be able to see my mp3 library on my car's screen. Of course I suppose it depends on the audio system or car. I have a Gen 3 Prius with stock stereo that came with the navigation.
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What do you mean by keeps up with nav and listening to books?
I'm hoping I can navigate my phone's mp3s using my car stereo. I tried plugging it into the car's usb port that works for my ipod but it didn't read anything when I went to the usb tab on my car's screen.
I've ordered that Belkin charger based on your suggestion in the audio thread but haven't received it yet. Hoping that's what you're talking about and that I'll be able to see my mp3 library on my car's screen. Of course I suppose it depends on the audio system or car. I have a Gen 3 Prius with stock stereo that came with the navigation.
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The charger is just for charging. Once you plug your usb cable into it you will not be connected to the stereo.
I use the charger for charging, the BT for the phone to car stereo, and the aux jack for listening to Audible books in the car. The nav I was refering to is the Google Maps for GPS navigation which outputs sound over my aux connection.
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The charger is just for charging. Once you plug your usb cable into it you will not be connected to the stereo.
I use the charger for charging, the BT for the phone to car stereo, and the aux jack for listening to Audible books in the car. The nav I was refering to is the Google Maps for GPS navigation which outputs sound over my aux connection.
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Okay, thanks. Doesn't look like I'll be seeing my phone's mp3 library on my car's navi screen.
I forgot to update this thread. I got the HTC CC C300 dual port charger and it does provide the juice for AC charging. Cruising down the road, it was pushing a little under 850mAh into my near-dead battery. The model number is 99H10128-00.
If you can live with only one port, the single port HTC charger does AC charging as well. The cheapest that I've seen it is here, as a "T-Mobile myTouch" branded unit. http://www.amazon.com/HTC-T-Mobile-...UTF8&coliid=I3F2IGEKMH21XF&colid=CYR5AB72ZMIK
NilsP said:
I have this Belkin USB car charger and it not only registers and charges as A/C it keeps up with using nav and listening to books in the car.
Belkin
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FYI, I bought this on your recommendation and it DOES NOT charge in AC mode with the Galaxy Nexus LTE.
UPDATE. I think I found the problem. There must be a variation in actual vehicle DC outlets. The Belkin and myTouch chargers mentioned in this thread both charge in AC mode in my wife's VW. They do not in my Ford F150. So basically its a crap shoot Good luck.
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I am surprised no one has simply pointed out that a power inverter will do the job. They are perpetually at $15-$20 on NewEgg. It will give you an A/C plug, which you can then use to charge your phone at 1A.
jdmba said:
I am surprised no one has simply pointed out that a power inverter will do the job. They are perpetually at $15-$20 on NewEgg. It will give you an A/C plug, which you can then use to charge your phone at 1A.
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yeah but its ugly and bulky
Welp
couchmonkey said:
yeah but its ugly and bulky
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It don't gotta sit on your lap
In reality, it is the only solution to the OP's question, as it is unlikely that any of the car chargers will put out 1A. Again, was just surprised no one offered the only solution, aesthetics aside.
Hohlraum said:
FYI, I bought this on your recommendation and it DOES NOT charge in AC mode with the Galaxy Nexus LTE.
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Not sure if your post is meant to inform or complain, but his rec was posted in the Rezound accessories forum and that's the phone he confirmed it working on.
I just checked it on my Rezound in my Prius and it DOES charge in AC mode, so thanks Nils!
jdmba said:
In reality, it is the only solution to the OP's question, as it is unlikely that any of the car chargers will put out 1A.
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The AC charger included with the RZD and both of the car chargers that I posted push ~980mAh to my phone. Is a full 1A even possible?
An easier fix is to flash incredikernel and use the usb fast charge option.
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Hi all,
Just got my hands on my new Asus Transformer. Just getting to grips with the USB 3.0 charging problems, etc... Sorry for not reading through the other posts in there entirity, in a bit of a rush to go on holidays and need mobile charging!
I need to keep the device alive and charging in the car (kids, angry birds, i'm sure you understand!).
What can I use? I thought my 12v cigar to USB would work as with my old android phone, but it clearly doesnt as it doesnt charge while the device is on.
What are my current options for immediate purchase here in the UK?
Thanks in advance.
Hi
There are no options, at the moment, either here in the UK or elsewhere.....
....except if you make your own charger....cable.....trouble is that two things : first, the 40-pin proprietary plug that connects to the TF/dock; these are not available anywhere yet and secondly that regular 12v USB chargers do not chuch out anywhere near enough juice for the TF
ASUS UK are in the process of getting TF accessories available see here .... but that's it, unless you want to make your own.
Your only option right now is to get a Car power inverter and use the wall charger.
PhoenixFx said:
Your only option right now is to get a Car power inverter and use the wall charger.
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Hiya, yeah, already got one of those but am looking for an aternative, have ordered a longer USB 3.0 lead so at least i can do that...
Thanks
kevpuk said:
Hi
There are no options, at the moment, either here in the UK or elsewhere.....
....except if you make your own charger....cable.....trouble is that two things : first, the 40-pin proprietary plug that connects to the TF/dock; these are not available anywhere yet and secondly that regular 12v USB chargers do not chuch out anywhere near enough juice for the TF
ASUS UK are in the process of getting TF accessories available see here .... but that's it, unless you want to make your own.
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I'd definately have a go at making my own, if only I could get the connectors! As for the 12v USB adaptors, im sure I could make some mods to get enough power! ;-)
gavin watson said:
I'd definately have a go at making my own, if only I could get the connectors! As for the 12v USB adaptors, im sure I could make some mods to get enough power! ;-)
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check out this post of mine in the "short cable" thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16320775#post16320775
you can do it for about £27 with generally-available parts.
goes without saying i hope ---- triple-check polarities/ voltages etc. before plugging anything in!
poster bob smith42 has posted some useful guides.
theabsurdman said:
check out this post of mine in the "short cable" thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16320775#post16320775
you can do it for about £27 with generally-available parts.
goes without saying i hope ---- triple-check polarities/ voltages etc. before plugging anything in!
poster bob smith42 has posted some useful guides.
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To sum up that post, all you need is any car charger that puts out close to 15v at 2amps or more. Then you put a regular USB female port on the end of it (either through an adapter or by wiring it up directly). Then you use the standard ASUS cable to connect it to your tablet.
rtadams89 said:
To sum up that post, all you need is any car charger that puts out close to 15v at 2amps or more. Then you put a regular USB female port on the end of it (either through an adapter or by wiring it up directly). Then you use the standard ASUS cable to connect it to your tablet.
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Most car's electrical systems are at 14-14.5V when the car is running. I've seen posts that say the TF will start charging at 11V, so even with the car off, there should be enough voltage to charge directly from the car's electrical system. Obviously a fuse is recommended, and voltage regulation would be nice, but shouldn't be necessary.
I haven't had the need to charge my TF in the car yet, but I plan to put a usb 3.0 socket in my car, and use a switch, or watch pin 7 for ground(or whichever it was, will double-check obviously), to toggle between a 5V supply and the car's 12V system.
Hi, thanks for the info. Do we know the pinout for the female USB socket? Thanks.
gavin watson said:
Hi, thanks for the info. Do we know the pinout for the female USB socket? Thanks.
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You'll be connecting ground to pin 4 and +11-15V to pin 1. Do not use with normal USB devices, it will supply the 11-15V to the same pin that normal USB uses for +5V, so it's a fairly certain instant-fry. Change pin 1 to 5V for normal devices. To switch between 5V and ~15V, I plan on using the same method the wall charger uses, watching for ground on pin 7(pin number needs verification). If you switch it manually, or don't switch at all, you can use a standard USB 2.0 socket instead of the 3.0(The pic is 2.0, 3.0 has 5 extra pins behind the first 4, there will be fewer pins to get in your way when soldering).
If you buy one of these http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Inve..._1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1312550809&sr=1-1
Then just plug the Asus charging power block into that. This looks like the easiest solution right now.
You don't need a 175 watt one, that's just the first one i saw on amazon. The power block has a max of 2A rating with 15v so that is only 30 watts(v * a = w).
chatch15117 said:
If you buy one of these http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Inve..._1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1312550809&sr=1-1
Then just plug the Asus charging power block into that. This looks like the easiest solution right now.
You don't need a 175 watt one, that's just the first one i saw on amazon. The power block has a max of 2A rating with 15v so that is only 30 watts(v * a = w).
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Nice. Lots of 110v 75 watt items on ebay, too.
75W 12V DC To 110V/220V Power Inverter Car Adapter USB
Car AC Power Inverter 150W Pop-can 12V To 120V w/USBH42 (This one looks pretty cool in my opinion)
I have no idea if these will work with TF101. Has anyone tried yet?
It should work.
I used to have this one: http://www.amazon.com/Cobra-CPI-150-Micro-150-Inverter/dp/B000F6NULK/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
Small enough to carry around + airplane adapter.
An inverter is a good solution for charger the TF without much fuss. If someone wants to wire something directly to the cig lighter, be sure to unplug your TF when starting the car to avoid voltage spikes.
zepheris.hk said:
An inverter is a good solution for charger the TF without much fuss. If someone wants to wire something directly to the cig lighter, be sure to unplug your TF when starting the car to avoid voltage spikes.
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Find one with high and low voltage protection and you don't have to worry about spikes.
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Find one with high and low voltage protection and you don't have to worry about spikes.
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He said that in regard to directly wiring to the car's electrical system, not an inverter. Are you suggesting he buy a car with over/under voltage protection?
P.S. @ zepheris.hk
Since the TF expects 15V(and the internal regulator should be able to handle up to 37v for a couple seconds), I doubt you need to worry about spikes from a direct connection to the car's system. Besides, I've never seen a car that spikes when starting. You'd notice all the lights get brighter, instead of dimming as they normally do(from the voltage sag induced by the starter's amp draw). That isn't to say that there can't be other spikes if something is wrong with your electrical system though. I recommend a resistor to limit amperage at the very least, if you're brave, the internal regulator should be able to handle any over/reverse voltage(within reason) as long as there's current limiting.
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Nice. Lots of 110v 75 watt items on ebay, too.
75W 12V DC To 110V/220V Power Inverter Car Adapter USB
Car AC Power Inverter 150W Pop-can 12V To 120V w/USBH42 (This one looks pretty cool in my opinion)
I have no idea if these will work with TF101. Has anyone tried yet?
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110v inverters are all the same, basically, so as long as it meets your wattage requirements(30W) it will work. I suggest 90-100W though so you can charge a laptop also, if needed. Most laptops are 60-100W.
My experience so far...
Yesterday on a long journey I used a 175w 12vdc - 230vac inverter with the original mains adaptor that comes with the TF. Can't link to the inverter, I bought it a while ago from Maplin (UK) and hadnt used it.
All worked fine.
The TF AC adaptor got a bit warm, slightly more than usual, but nothing to get worried about. The charging went fine, I couldnt use it permanently connected and in use because of the stupid length of the cable and my 3.0 USB extension hadnt arrived before we set off.
I've just bought another 3.0 USB cable and a cigar lighter plug and will attempt to connect it up by using the (approx.) 13.8vdc directly from the cigar outlet in my car. I can't see why that wont work?
I might just wait until the warrantly company confirm my TF is on their database before I attempt this, but will post back soon.
Thansk for all the tips and info guys.
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My experience so far...
Yesterday on a long journey I used a 175w 12vdc - 230vac inverter with the original mains adaptor that comes with the TF. Can't link to the inverter, I bought it a while ago from Maplin (UK) and hadnt used it.
All worked fine.
The TF AC adaptor got a bit warm, slightly more than usual, but nothing to get worried about. The charging went fine, I couldnt use it permanently connected and in use because of the stupid length of the cable and my 3.0 USB extension hadnt arrived before we set off.
I've just bought another 3.0 USB cable and a cigar lighter plug and will attempt to connect it up by using the (approx.) 13.8vdc directly from the cigar outlet in my car. I can't see why that wont work?
I might just wait until the warrantly company confirm my TF is on their database before I attempt this, but will post back soon.
Thansk for all the tips and info guys.
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Like I said, the cigar outlet should work fine, but you don't need a 3.0 cable, you can just use a 2.0 to simplify the wiring, and using a 3.0 cable won't protect other devices from overvoltage anyways.
I recommend a 7.5 Ohm resistor to limit the amperage to 2 amps: http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=TR50JBD7R50-ND
This one is a 50W, so it should be able to handle 2 amps without heatsinking.
Long term, I'd suggest adding a decoupling capacitor to get rid of some of the noise from the car's electrical system, something like:http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=P12389-ND.
For just one trip though, you should be fine without any added protection. I would suggest the resistor though, as the outlet will give it up to about 10 amps, and I don't know if the internal regulator in the TF is limited by itself, or by the charger(which only puts out 2 amps). If you don't use a resistor, watch the battery/case temperature like a hawk, especially when the battery is being charged from a very low level(0-25%), this is the highest draw portion of the charging cycle, and consequently, the hottest.
Transformer needs 1.5A output cigarette lighter. If you can find one, you're golden.
So my charger isn't charging correctly, and I figured I'd try the Dynex universal charger. I wasn't up for soldering and measuring voltages, etc. Best Buy wanted $30 for it, but I found it on an amazon store for $6.50!
http://www.amazon.com/Dynex-Universal-Camera-Camcorder-Adapter/dp/B003RXH7WG/
(only 2 left in stock at this price)
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It just arrived and it's charging my TF + dock perfectly. I heard it charges a hair slower than the stock charger, but I don't mind. I also got an RMA for my ASUS charger, so now I can send it back to be fixed.
There are so many people are complaining about the charging issue that it sounds like a flawed design by ASUS. What I don't understand is: Why would anyone take a chance buying a new stock ASUS charger for $30+ when it might also be faulty? Especially when you can get one of these Dynex chargers for almost 1/6th the price!
Very.cool if this offer is here next week Ima try it ty
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I wouldnt wait around if you want it at this price. There's only 2 left in stock!
I picked up this same charger for around the same price a few months ago. It has worked flawlessly. Now I would just like to purchase the Asus usb cable without the AC plug.
That's a good deal!
I called asus earlier today and got an rma for my charger. About an hour ago I tested another charger and I think I found out its the cable.
With the other charger, my cable didn't charge but with the other cable and my charger, it worked.
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This might be better item than you realize.
The voltage switch you see in the picture is disconnected from the wall plug piece. The wall plug piece is 15v and has a 6 foot wire to 5.5mm barrel plug, e.g. almost perfect for the TF101.
If you convert the connector to female USB you can plug the TF 40 pin USB cable directly into the wall plug piece, because you do not need the voltage switch and tips. The converter is difficult to find but I have found them on ebay.
Once I realized this information, I also found the wall plug 15v items separately on ebay.
However, the voltage switch and tips are very nice for charging other stuff, like iphone, cell phone, other tablets, etc., at 5v.
Just to make sure I understand this correctly....does this replace my ac plug if say i lose the plug and this will actually plug into my TF (since it uses a proprietary connection) or do I still need that connection and can use this for something else?
I saw this at walmart about a month ago for like $15. I had it in my cart and at checkout I took it out because I "felt" I wouldn't need it and wanted to save the money. Lol.
It definitely looks like a useful thing to have around the house.
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This might be better item than you realize.
The voltage switch you see in the picture is disconnected from the wall plug piece. The wall plug piece is 15v and has a 6 foot wire to 5.5mm barrel plug, e.g. almost perfect for the TF101.
If you convert the connector to female USB you can plug the TF 40 pin USB cable directly into the wall plug piece, because you do not need the voltage switch and tips. The converter is difficult to find but I have found them on ebay.
Once I realized this information, I also found the wall plug 15v items separately on ebay.
However, the voltage switch and tips are very nice for charging other stuff, like iphone, cell phone, other tablets, etc., at 5v.
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Yep, you can buy the barrel to female USB on eBay. Check the diy charger thread for links and info on polarity. I was going to buy this from best buy when my charger first started acting up but I found a similar one in my garage! Now just waiting on my barrel to female USB to come in :-D
elosogrande7076 said:
Just to make sure I understand this correctly....does this replace my ac plug if say i lose the plug and this will actually plug into my TF (since it uses a proprietary connection) or do I still need that connection and can use this for something else?
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You still need the Asus USB cable that came with your tf. This just provides a 15v USB plug which is hard to find as most are only 5v and the tf needs above 11v to charge.
Bob Smith42 said:
This might be better item than you realize.
The voltage switch you see in the picture is disconnected from the wall plug piece. The wall plug piece is 15v and has a 6 foot wire to 5.5mm barrel plug, e.g. almost perfect for the TF101.
If you convert the connector to female USB you can plug the TF 40 pin USB cable directly into the wall plug piece, because you do not need the voltage switch and tips. The converter is difficult to find but I have found them on ebay.
Once I realized this information, I also found the wall plug 15v items separately on ebay.
However, the voltage switch and tips are very nice for charging other stuff, like iphone, cell phone, other tablets, etc., at 5v.
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I'm guessing this is the adapter you are referring to:
http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-Female-5525-Plug-Female-USB-5V-Power-Adapter-/140408839695?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20b104de0f#ht_2208wt_874
The description for this adapter says 5v, so will it support 15v? Is this safe?
It's no longer $6.50.
Xxq TZ pxX said:
I'm guessing this is the adapter you are referring to:
http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-Female-5525-Plug-Female-USB-5V-Power-Adapter-/140408839695?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20b104de0f#ht_2208wt_874
The description for this adapter says 5v, so will it support 15v? Is this safe?
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Right, that is it. There are lots of resellers on ebay.
Almost everything using USB is 5v -- EXCEPT the ASUS TF101 which puts 15v on the standard USB power lines. In my opinion, the cable shown can easily & safely handle the power levels. Just make sure nothing else (e.g. 5v stuff) gets plugged into the female USB socket at 15v.
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It's no longer $6.50.
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Just search "dx-ua" on ebay or google. Lots more on the web.
Has anyone seen this car dock for the Rezound?
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...ryDetails&archetypeId=12860&accessoryId=48053
It appears to block the audio jack but it says it will charge the device. Does it somehow do audio out from the USB/MHL port?
Thanks.
I just bought this for $22 (25% corporate discount) at the Verizon corporate store here. It actually does not cover the headphone port, and leaves about 3mm, plenty for my fat cassette audio jack.
In fact, it also comes with 3 inserts: 1 for std batt cover, 1 for extended battery cover, and 1 for std w/case (!).
The USB is simply micro-usb that connects on the back, and doesn't come with USB cable or charger.
For reference, I bought the extended battery for $30 on sale, and it fits great in the mount.
Jakewill
Car mount with inductive charging.
I have so far been unable to find a car mount that has inductive charging built in. Anyone know where to get one?
Alongside a Bluetooth setup, this would be sick. No cables to worry about when you get in the car.
HTGamingPC said:
I have so far been unable to find a car mount that has inductive charging built in. Anyone know where to get one?
Alongside a Bluetooth setup, this would be sick. No cables to worry about when you get in the car.
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Agreed... I will say that there are no cables to "worry about" with this mount, as it plugs in when you mount it.
On another note, it immediately launches the car panel app when mounted in this dock.
Jakewill
jakewill said:
Agreed... I will say that there are no cables to "worry about" with this mount, as it plugs in when you mount it.
On another note, it immediately launches the car panel app when mounted in this dock.
Jakewill
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You still have to make sure the plug goes into the jack. To me, that's not quite the same as mindlessly dropping it in; I usually have to look for at least half a second to make sure its lined up. Also, you can't have it in different orientations, you can get into trouble with 3rd party cases and it won't work with your wife's phone or your next upgrade, etc.
I was thinking to maybe make one out of a generic mount and the guts for an existing inductive mat but haven't really looked into the specifics.
I'd love to hear from anyone that can attest as to whether either of the Otterbox cases work with the inserts, and what material the inserts are made from (for possible modding).
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I'd love to hear from anyone that can attest as to whether either of the Otterbox cases work with the inserts, and what material the inserts are made from (for possible modding).
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QFT. The revelation that the OEM car mount comes with different inserts for different variations of the phone's cover really surprised me. I'm hoping that it works with the Otterbox Commuter at the very least.
Post #12 here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1367241
Can anyone collaborate or refute this review.
Anyone tried to use this with a usb input on their car deck? My deck has a usb input for iPod/mp3 player, my ipod works fine if you plug it in directly to the deck with just a usb cable but will not work if you use an ipod dock, just wanna know if this is the same way.
H3Dude said:
Post #12 here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1367241
Can anyone collaborate or refute this review.
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I can confirm. The car dock will not charge your phone atleast not with the screen on and nothing else running but battery monitor widget.
I bought one and tested it extensively yesterday. I used a Verizon 1a charger and a generic 1a charger. With the dock and both chargerz the phone DIScharged(as in LOST battery power) at between 100ma and 200ma. Without the dock using the same chargers and changing nothing on the phone the phone charged at between 50a and 300ma.
I did the test several times to eliminate any random things the phone may have been doing in the background.
After doing that controlled test I played with it some more and no matter what I did I could not get a positive charge with the dock attached even in airplane mode with the screen backlight at minimum. Without the dock using the same chargers i ran Pandora and a police scanner both outputting through the phone speaker, gps, wifi, mobile all on, and screen on auto and still had a very small positive charge.
Moral of the story DO NOT BUY THIS DOCK unless you dont mind it just being a piece of plastic that holds your phone in place.
4 Screws and you can open it up, small circuit board with a few resistors and LED let. Could be modded with a few wirejumpers to bypass the board.
etjrowe said:
I'd love to hear from anyone that can attest as to whether either of the Otterbox cases work with the inserts, and what material the inserts are made from (for possible modding).
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I got my Otterbox Commuter today and tried it with the "iBolt" car dock, but as I should have guessed, they don't work together because the USB cover on the case gets in the way. The inserts for the car dock are made from polystyrene or ABS, I'm not totally sure. Probably PS because they are pretty stiff. It might be possible to chop a piece out to accommodate the case flap, but I'm returning mine and picking up a universal phone/camera mount instead. A little over-kill perhaps, but it's inexpensive and can mount my cameras too, if I feel the need lol.
http://www.amazon.com/Flexcope-Roadtrip-PlaySport-Panasonic-Recorder/dp/B004E7GF2M/ref=pd_cp_cps_2
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I can confirm. The car dock will not charge your phone atleast not with the screen on and nothing else running but battery monitor widget.
I bought one and tested it extensively yesterday. I used a Verizon 1a charger and a generic 1a charger. With the dock and both chargerz the phone DIScharged(as in LOST battery power) at between 100ma and 200ma. Without the dock using the same chargers and changing nothing on the phone the phone charged at between 50a and 300ma.
I did the test several times to eliminate any random things the phone may have been doing in the background.
After doing that controlled test I played with it some more and no matter what I did I could not get a positive charge with the dock attached even in airplane mode with the screen backlight at minimum. Without the dock using the same chargers i ran Pandora and a police scanner both outputting through the phone speaker, gps, wifi, mobile all on, and screen on auto and still had a very small positive charge.
Moral of the story DO NOT BUY THIS DOCK unless you dont mind it just being a piece of plastic that holds your phone in place.
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I too can confirm the iBolt dock does not properly charge the phone. Noticed it the first time I use it on a 2 hour trip using navigation with the screen on only for half the time. Before I left the battery was at 75%. When I finally got to my destination the battery was at 10%.
Does anyone know of any other dock or a fix for this one?
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MastricX said:
4 Screws and you can open it up, small circuit board with a few resistors and LED let. Could be modded with a few wirejumpers to bypass the board.
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Are you refering to the iBolt car dock? Have you modded it yourself? If so, can you explain how?
http://www.craigsdocks.com/htc-rezound-car-dock-swivel-style/
I ordered one of these. I had the verizon one but returned it when I realized it was a piece of crap and wouldn't charge. I will review this one when I get it.
I received one of the VZW car docks in the mail yesterday and the first thing I did was to install it and test the charging capability. I was relieved to find that it is charging my phone. The caveat here is that I was using a charger with dual USB ports, not a regular one-piece car charger, and the USB cable I had in the truck from my old Droid X. Might that make some difference?
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I received one of the VZW car docks in the mail yesterday and the first thing I did was to install it and test the charging capability. I was relieved to find that it is charging my phone. The caveat here is that I was using a charger with dual USB ports, not a regular one-piece car charger, and the USB cable I had in the truck from my old Droid X. Might that make some difference?
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Does the charger have a output rating on it? The phone will charge with a good 1a charger if you don't use it AT All, and it will charge very slow, if even the screen is on it will drain the battery. The one I got blows this thing out of the water some people say its ugly, I don't see it, but it works out of the box. http://www.craigsdocks.com/htc-rezound-car-dock-swivel-style/
Kane, I'll check the output. I know it's charging by AC versus USB. The charger is a Scoche dual USB charger.
MastricX said:
4 Screws and you can open it up, small circuit board with a few resistors and LED let. Could be modded with a few wirejumpers to bypass the board.
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One of my Engineer friends helped look into this a little. We are still investigating but for those that cannot STAND the constant car dock mode, if you DE-SOLDER the small chip (remove completely and do NOT bridge) labeled "R1" from the backside of the board, car dock is no longer turned on. Its an 10k resister that id's the car charger. Removing that will stop car dock from launching period. This does not affect anything else other than Car Dock Mode.
We are still testing and trying to figuring it out this. But as it stands now, there is nothing else on this board that would cause power loss. It has to be a combination of GPS (large power draw alone) + Data (Pandora) + Car Dock automatically turning on WiFi (another large power draw). WHY WiFi is turned ON in Car Dock mode, I have NO idea. Last thing I want ON when driving. :? But having those all on is drawing more currant than is being provided with a full 1A being supplied.
As one last note, most off the shelf (generic) car charges only provide 500mA's, which is absolutely NOT enough power to charge while GPS + Data + WiFe searching to charge the phone. Make sure when you purchase a charger/adapter, make sure you see the output = 5v - 1A.
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Someone at Android forums has already done the research on this and came up with the best fix for the official dock as far as the charging goes. Also, he tests different car chargers and gives an opinion on which one charges the best. A very well done thread. Worth the read.
http://androidforums.com/3754610-post104.html
http://androidforums.com/3725965-post67.html
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I used that thread to move forward on modding my dock. I failed shorting the pins after a drip of solder shorted ALL the pins together (whoops), but I went with another poster's method of drilling a hole for the cord to go straight to the phone. It ended up clean and simple. It was a pain in the ass to plug in the micro to the back of the dock anyway.
FYI, my experience has been that the phone overheats pretty quick (120F) with screen on, navi running, and a 1A charger providing juice. The good news is that it clears a good 400mA which provides a solid positive charge. Screen off and navi running gets rid of the heat issue for me.
I've seen a little chatter on the New Trent battery packs, but haven't seen this issue, so I wanted to see if I can figure out what's up.
I've had the IMP500 (5000mAh) for 3 or 4 months and really like it in general. Well, the little micro USB adapter has a little too much play and after 30 or so plug ins and outs it has a hard time maintaining a connection, to the point where it's almost unusable.
When I use the included wire, it shows up as AC charging. But, if I use a 'real' USB cable, it shows up as USB... which as we know can't provide a positive charge while using.
I know about the whole shorting of the 2/3 pins to force an AC charge, and I can see the mechanics that give me AC with the New Trent wire. But it would appear that I'm out of luck without getting a new one of those.
Anyone know of a USB wire that will force AC charging?
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Anyone know of a USB wire that will force AC charging?
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No, because any cable that shorts 2-3 isn't a USB cable, just as a charger that doesn't isn't a USB charger. They simply don't meet the specifications. If they're labeled "USB" anything, call the manufacturer and complain.
yes, a USB charging ONLY cable: available here:
http://www.amazon.com/Naztech-Micro...BCAY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1331144352&sr=8-1
the reviews on there matchup to what we want... a usb format cable that is shorted for 'charging only' it won't work for data.
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yes, a USB charging ONLY cable: available here:
http://www.amazon.com/Naztech-Micro...BCAY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1331144352&sr=8-1
the reviews on there matchup to what we want... a usb format cable that is shorted for 'charging only' it won't work for data.
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Amazing, thanks! I hunted amazon but didn't come up with that one. I'll have to try it out.
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yes, a USB charging ONLY cable: available here:
http://www.amazon.com/Naztech-Micro...BCAY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1331144352&sr=8-1
the reviews on there matchup to what we want... a usb format cable that is shorted for 'charging only' it won't work for data.
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Got this today and it works like a charm. No more soldering together pins in old i-pod chargers for me. Thanks again for the lead.
just bought two of each of these, should get early next week:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/370592797323?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/170793148690?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
hope these cure my car charging woes lol
One can buy chargers from reputable companies which follow the USB charging specification for under $10 (car or AC). Why mess with non-standard chargers and cables which are no cheaper, from bit players?
Back when I got my Dinc, I bought like 10 of these, they were actually on special for like $2.99 ea.. they are now close to $5 (amazon prime free shipping).
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001P05K9K
I bought the other day one of these the other day as I didn't have a Car charger...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002TOKTHO
< $3.50 with free shipping (not amazon prime).
I had a meeting the other day and I ended up connecting my Rezound using one of the cables above with the charger above and got AC charging indication on the phone when it was charging.
Works great.
I also have 4-5 of these around the house ... Not phone related
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0037G2BMY
I use them when "family" comes over with their broken desktop computers and need me to "fix" them. Instead of stringing them to my office, I just plug one of these in and Wifi them so that I can work on them remote from my notebook. They are like $8 and work great.
Hello,
where to find this "Naztech Micro USB Charging Cable" for delivering in Belgium (europe). It's on amazon.com but delivery is only US and CANADA
Or do you know another cable wich deliver full power as with wall charger and original htc cable (about 850ma)
Thank you.
thatsricci said:
yes, a USB charging ONLY cable: available here:
http://www.amazon.com/Naztech-Micro...BCAY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1331144352&sr=8-1
the reviews on there matchup to what we want... a usb format cable that is shorted for 'charging only' it won't work for data.
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Also:
http://www.amazon.com/Charge-PureGe...1&sr=8-2&keywords=charge+only+micro+usb+cable
Yes but is there another shop for delivering in Europe?
Yannick1988 said:
Hello,
where to find this "Naztech Micro USB Charging Cable" for delivering in Belgium (europe). It's on amazon.com but delivery is only US and CANADA
Or do you know another cable wich deliver full power as with wall charger and original htc cable (about 850ma)
Thank you.
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The review on the following url from 24 Nov 2011 indicates it's charge only multi adapter cable:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/HEAD-MULTI-...PZB8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1343570862&sr=8-1
Luck
I don't know if the seller will ship internationally, but this is the one I bought and it works great.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=140750149487
It's worth hitting him up and seeing if he'll send it to you.
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Ok thank you but I bought this one
Htp://usbfever.com/index_eproduct_view.php?products_id=1746
hope it will work fine.
Have you guys heard of Mediabridge? I got one of their ethernet cables, but now it's the only brand I buy when it matters. If anyone is still looking for a charging only cable, they have a long 6 ft. cable and a coiled cable - though they do have sync cables with the same stats too (and cheaper).
Here are the charging only cables from Amazon:
Oops, I guess I do too much lurking and not enough posting because it tells me I can't post outside links until I've had 10 submissions.
Simply do an Amazon search for Mediabridge USB Charging Cable and they should be the first 2 results that show. You can compare them with the data/sync cable because the data cable is a single color where the charging only has a dark cable and light grey terminals.
If you're interested in the data/sync cables you can find them under Mediabridge Hi-Speed USB 2.0
If you're using a wall charger or a car charger, either modify the cable (not ideal) or the charger itself (more ideal) to short the D-/D+ pins. When the phone detects the data pins shorted together it assumes it's connected to an AC charger. If you do this to a cable, make sure that only the micro-USB end is shorted and cut the wires so the USB A end isn't shorted.
Many PC USB ports are limited to 500mA draw anyway.
Is there a fix or work around to the slow charging issue? If I use the stock charger and cable that came with the DNA I am fine, but my OEM Thunderbolt charger (which looks the same) and my car charger I got from Amazon (which I understand may be a knock off but had worked before on the DNA) or any other charger give me a slow charging notification.
This is a pretty big deal for me since I use my phone a lot for work. If I am in the car my phone is not charging fast enough to keep up with drain from the navigation.
I am rooted, s-off, twrp, and running Viper ROM 1.2.0. I understand HTC implemented this "feature" with the latest update. I couldn't find any info about a fix so are people just dealing with it?
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Is there a fix or work around to the slow charging issue? If I use the stock charger and cable that came with the DNA I am fine, but my OEM Thunderbolt charger (which looks the same) and my car charger I got from Amazon (which I understand may be a knock off but had worked before on the DNA) or any other charger give me a slow charging notification.
This is a pretty big deal for me since I use my phone a lot for work. If I am in the car my phone is not charging fast enough to keep up with drain from the navigation.
I am rooted, s-off, twrp, and running Viper ROM 1.2.0. I understand HTC implemented this "feature" with the latest update. I couldn't find any info about a fix so are people just dealing with it?
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You can flash a kernel like crpalmers or zarboz's kernels with fast charging implemented. But what I recommend is buying a USB charger that wont have that issue.
Take your phone somewhere that they have a Nexus 7 or Asus tablet set up on display with the regular charger hooked up.
They sell the chargers lots of places, the Nexus 7 will be best both spec wise and it comes with a pretty nice micros USB cable but I see the transformer prime charger in more places to walk in and purchase retail brick and mortar.They're solid chargers that will deliver the power your phone will allow. You just have to be careful when using it when charging with fast charging enabled it gets warm because it's running that current through their. The OEM charger only runs about 70% of the rated current through there.
Best Buy has a RocketFish 12volt car charger micro USB with an extra USB slot for a second USB cable and device. I almost never use car chargers but I was actually impressed with the quality of this charger. Also HotTips makes a charger that's rated at 5.0 amps and I believe as long as it's not a cheap crumby USB cable it will work fine. A lot of times it's the cable itself not the charger, so I would try taking your USB cable from home to work and plugging it up to that same USB charging plug and see if you get the same slow charging icon.
Thanks for the thorough response. I tried to do some testing combining different cables and charges and the only one that consistently gives me slow charging is the car charger (which worked fine previously). I have a Transformer Prime charger and Droid Razr charger that both worked fine. My Thunderbolt charger worked when I tried this time but has given me the slow charging notification in the past.
I may have to pick up one of the car chargers you mentioned because that is the most important. My phone is running great otherwise with Viper ROM and the kernel that comes with it so I'd rather not change it.
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You can flash a kernel like crpalmers or zarboz's kernels with fast charging implemented. But what I recommend is buying a USB charger that wont have that issue.
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I believe that forces fast charge when connected to a computer via usb. Some people have said it may fry your usb port but I don't know how true that is.
Android phones in general charge slower when connected via car charger.
this Motorola one here works fine:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000S5Q9CA
or you could always get a power inverter and then use whatever cable you want.
Get the Verizon car charger. Works fine for me..
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I ordered these cables from Amazon, got them today and I'm still getting slow charging from the car charger. These are really high quality and still not working. This is pretty ridiculous, HTC should have at least made this optional.
I posted on this a while back, its the cable that causes the issue. If you open up the cable and short the data wires it works perfect. All you needs is wire strippers, electrical tape and shrink tubing.
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I posted on this a while back, its the cable that causes the issue. If you open up the cable and short the data wires it works perfect. All you needs is wire strippers, electrical tape and shrink tubing.
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Thanks for the suggestion. The cables I bought are very high quality, charging specific cables, and I'm still getting slow charging in the car. If HTC only wants to support official OEM chargers that's fine, but then they need to make an official car charger!!
Also, why does HTC only support using the OEM charger when the DNA supports Qi charging? Doesn't make "Sense"
arisch86 said:
I posted on this a while back, its the cable that causes the issue. If you open up the cable and short the data wires it works perfect. All you needs is wire strippers, electrical tape and shrink tubing.
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I tried that with the Rezound awhile back and afterwards it still registered as 'charging USB'(aka slow charging).
P.S. that Motorola charger I mentioned above, I opened one up before and noticed it just had the 2 power cables(black & white) and they were also much thicker then the standard cables w/ all 4 wires.
When I did my cable hacks I cut the cable in half, put a piece of shrink tubing on one end reconnected the power wires, shorted the data wires on both plugs. When you do this you cannot reconnect the data wires. They must be separated. I'll post some pics in a few to show you what I mean.
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Basically this is what you want it to look like...connect the positive and negative, you can reconnect the shielding too. Also I highly recommend soldering the wires together. Adds strength.
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You can do the cable hack shown in the post above as some non OEM chargers do not have the data wires shorted at the charger itself. You can either hack the cables, or if you need the cable for data, then modify your charger. Please make sure your charger is rated at least 800mA. Any charger rated 800mA or below will charge slow. Computer usb ports are rated 500mA and this is why it charges slow. My car's radio has a usb hook up and it also charges my phone at 500mA which is not enough if I'm calling, navigating, etc. The OEM charger is rated 1A. You can use a 2A charger as well but don't use it everyday. Higher rated chargers do charge the battery quicker, but at the expense of the long term battery life.
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In my testing even shorting the chargers data pins on chargers seems to be more of a miss. I've done a few and even after shorting them they still state USB mode. It mainly stems from the data pins being present in the cable itself. Two of the chargers I shorted were for a vehicle and they were rated for 2.0 amps. Also if just charging the phone yes don't use high output chargers. But if charging in the car high output won't hurt if you are using navigation, music etc...it actually needs the higher output to charge hence needing to charge at the AC rate.
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I have this issue as well now, I never had it till the update back in Feb. I used other Android phones on my car charger and they charge just fine and it only happens with my DNA. I think there is a firmware issue that is causing this to happen.
This afternoon I hacked a cable as shown above, to use with my car charger. I'm glad to report it worked like a champ and my phone went from slow car charging to very rapid charging.
Thanks for the tip.
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