What exactly are the uses of the trackpad on the dock?
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I've had the trackpad disabled since day 1. Don't know why people would want to use it. If you want to use the trackpad, why not just get a netbook or laptop? Why buy a tablet if you're afraid to use the touchscreen?
goodintentions said:
I've had the trackpad disabled since day 1. Don't know why people would want to use it. If you want to use the trackpad, why not just get a netbook or laptop? Why buy a tablet if you're afraid to use the touchscreen?
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I agree. Aside from the fact I don't like using trackpads, the screen is right there. Why would I go to a trackpad when I can just point at what I want ?
When I don't use a bluetooth mouse, I actually use the trackpad... I've found that if you are using the keyboard, it's easier to use the trackpad than reach up the screen every time. It sounds like reaching for the screen isn't a big deal, but I just found it easier to use the trackpad. I just wish Asus would disable the trackpad while typing!
jtrosky said:
When I don't use a bluetooth mouse, I actually use the trackpad... I've found that if you are using the keyboard, it's easier to use the trackpad than reach up the screen every time. It sounds like reaching for the screen isn't a big deal, but I just found it easier to use the trackpad. I just wish Asus would disable the trackpad while typing!
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So the trackpad gives you a cursor?
I can see where this would be both useful and unnecessary.
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infazzdar said:
So the trackpad gives you a cursor?
I can see where this would be both useful and unnecessary.
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Absolutely - the trackpad works just like a trackpad on a laptop - it even allows you to "tap" to click and has a physical left and right mouse buttons beneth it. I actually find it useful when I don't have a mouse - especially when doing RDP sessions as it gives you finer control....
The trackpad is very useful. See: websites like xda that have ****ty advertisements that popup and cover the screen and require you to hit a very tiny x to close it. Impossible on touchscreen, easy with trckpad.
Gary13579 said:
The trackpad is very useful. See: websites like xda that have ****ty advertisements that popup and cover the screen and require you to hit a very tiny x to close it. Impossible on touchscreen, easy with trckpad.
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Hahahaha. I've been using an anti-ad script for so long I forgot there are even ads on this website.
I like the trackpad because it doesn't get my screen all icky with fingerprints. And yeah, web browsing is often made easier by having a small cursor. I browse almost exclusively in desktop mode, so most of the UI elements show up tiny.
earlyberd said:
I like the trackpad because it doesn't get my screen all icky with fingerprints. And yeah, web browsing is often made easier by having a small cursor. I browse almost exclusively in desktop mode, so most of the UI elements show up tiny.
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same like me, just using it for tiny links like the pages in forums.
otherwise i use the screen
greetings
its the best of both worlds surely!!
at least we have the option to use the trackpad if we want, plenty of other tablets owners dont have that option, lets be thankful for what we have here eh?
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Anyone ever try one of these cheap BT keyboards from ebay?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Mini-Wireless-B...cessories&hash=item20b9fefac8#ht_10638wt_1139
There's tons of them.
It appears to be smaller than the phone in the picture. I cannot see what advantage it would provide.
SirhanSirhan said:
It appears to be smaller than the phone in the picture. I cannot see what advantage it would provide.
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That thing in the background is actually the front of a laptop, I think. But here's another one, with a hand in the pic for size reference:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Wireless-Mini-B...Trackballs&hash=item2c5d194867#ht_6608wt_1139
But as to what advantage it would provide:
1st of all, I type MUCH faster on a tactile keyboard (as most people do in reality).
2nd- tablet can be propped up on a stand and still enter test comfortably (I've found it difficult to type on a vertical screen, and placing it horizontally on my lap for a long message can negatively effect the viewing angle)
3rd- can be used remotely or when hands are dirty (think- kitchen / cooking / recipe tablet).
4th- console gaming. Nothing beats buttons for emulators.
I like that it is so portable, otherwise a full sized case + KB sort of approaches the size of a netbook which almost defeats the purpose of having this.
What I really wanted to know if these are just poor build quality or really uncomfortable to type on (I LOVED my touch pro 2 keypad, which this reminds me of, but not all kbs are created equal).
Additionally, there are other shapes and sizes, all around the same price on ebay. Seem to come from similar sellers, probably manufactured in one plant. Here's something more full sized:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Wireless-Blueto...ccessories&hash=item2311642184#ht_3553wt_1139
I can't really offer any insight to answer your question, as I have no experience with these one way or another... but I am quite interested in the answer. If you end up going this route and trying it, please post back here with the results... I'd be interested in a product like this, but build quality would also be a primary concern for me.
I ordered this keyboard from Amazon about a month ago, works great with both my GTab running Vegan 5.1.1 and my rooted EVO.
I apparently can't post links because I'm new, but search amazon for this:
Handheld Mini Bluetooth HID Wireless Chicklet Keyboard with Mouse Control Combo for Media Center PC, Windows 7/Vista/XP, Apple iPad & Sony PS3
It's like $35 and well worth it, I wrote a whole 5 page paper with it, pretty slick
toreyjh said:
I ordered this keyboard from Amazon about a month ago, works great with both my GTab running Vegan 5.1.1 and my rooted EVO.
I apparently can't post links because I'm new, but search amazon for this:
Handheld Mini Bluetooth HID Wireless Chicklet Keyboard with Mouse Control Combo for Media Center PC, Windows 7/Vista/XP, Apple iPad & Sony PS3
It's like $35 and well worth it, I wrote a whole 5 page paper with it, pretty slick
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Here you are.
How comfy is it being used as a desktop keyboard not as a thumb keyboard ?
Thanks
update: looks too small for touch typing (as noted in amazon reviews). So I like the caps lock led (not available on any other slim BT keyboard I have checked)
Also note that Android does not support the Bluetooth HID profile (looks like the underlying stack supports it since 2.1 or 2.2 but there's nothing in the ROM).
There's a free apk that might work "bluetooth easyconnect".
I've been edging around a semi expensive ~20USD apk that definitely works with my iGo BT keyboard, but they lock to phone ID and, on the gtab, that changes when you change ROMs...
toreyjh said:
I ordered this keyboard from Amazon about a month ago, works great with both my GTab running Vegan 5.1.1 and my rooted EVO.
I apparently can't post links because I'm new, but search amazon for this:
Handheld Mini Bluetooth HID Wireless Chicklet Keyboard with Mouse Control Combo for Media Center PC, Windows 7/Vista/XP, Apple iPad & Sony PS3
It's like $35 and well worth it, I wrote a whole 5 page paper with it, pretty slick
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I bought the bt keyboard that aasoror linked to. I got it to pair but it never connected, I even downloaded bluetooth keyboard easy connect but it would not let me pick the keyboard in the drop down menu. What is supposed to be the pin to help me get this working with my g-tab?
I am using Vegan GE 7.0. Thanks for any help you or anyone else can provide.
Oh, it never occurred to me that we would be missing the HID profile in bluetooth!
I just assumed if the iPad does it, certainly Android has it built in (thinking back to A2DP and other stuff Android supported first).
That really stinks- are BT keyboards not an option??
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I bought the bt keyboard that aasoror linked to.
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And how did you like it ? is it good for touch typing ?
I got it to pair but it never connected
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Have you tried the trick here.
Dishe said:
That really stinks- are BT keyboards not an option??
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There is plenty of BT KB's running on the GTab, just look around.
aasoror said:
And how did you like it ? is it good for touch typing ?
Have you tried the trick here.
There is plenty of BT KB's running on the GTab, just look around.
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I got it to work
I like it because its wireless and doesn't need a usb dongle or anything, but its hard to type on it for than a few minutes. Obviously it is a lot better than typing on the GTab but I wish it were smaller or bigger (small enough to thumb type, or big enough that it wasn't cramped and getting tiresome typing with both hands and all my fingers.)
I already had a Rii Mini Wireless keyboard from before so I thought, hell it couldn't hurt to give it a try on my GTab. And it works! Even the touchpad! I would rather use that because it is smaller (thus more portable) and it has backlighting on it. I could type in the dark! Of course there is a Bluetooth version for the Rii Mini as well (around $40), but I think I have spent enough money on keyboards for my GTab lol.
imdaman99 said:
I got it to work
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You didn't say how ?
imdaman99 said:
I wish it were smaller or bigger (small enough to thumb type, or big enough that it wasn't cramped and getting tiresome typing with both hands and all my fingers.)
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I am now thinking about a little bigger keyboard, seems suitable for touch typing.
I bought a BT keyboard off ebay for 19$ and it will not connect at all with my GTab. It will not connect w my samsung fascinate android either but will connect w my Ps3 and my ipod. Go figure.
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I find it kind of difficult to write with the pen, because I want to rest my hand on the tablet like a sheet of paper which then opens the virtual keyboard. My old Gateway convertible tablet, which only had pen function, no touch, was nicer (IMO) for writing because when writing, I COULD rest my hand on the screen like paper.
I would like to see a funciton that when the pen is in use (Like when the pen menu is open in the corner) the touch commands turn non-functional.
This would, in my opinion, boost the use of the pen majorly.
Does anyone else find this problem?
Also, I'm a lefty.
so right...
using both hand and pen has its pro's but i agree with you - i wish i could make the jetstream only "feel" the pen in certain situations.
personaly, i'm using a piece of clotch on the corner of the Jetstream to cover the problematic area. its a poor thing to do, but it gets me by...
maybe someday, if we'll live to see ICS on the Jetstream things will be better.
it would be great if there was a button you could press to briefly switch off the capacitative touch screen, leaving only the N-trig input. if this could be automated, then even better!
I posted on the HTC website too, hopefully they will pick it up.
I think the best note taking software right now is Quill for our tablet which recognize the n-trig and knows to ignore my hand.
If we had the support and interest in the device here in the xda community (which i don't think we do), once root is achieved, then turning off the capacitative touch while the pen menu is out could be possible... right?
Easy fix, I would think.
The solution to your issue is to use Tasker to switch the keyboard from HTC touch input to null keyboard on apps which you use the pen on.
Creds to posters on the HTC Flyer forum who had the same issue.
the issue is not just with the keyboard panel. it's with the date/notification bar the pops up every now and then..
Thanks for the info on Tasker and Null Keyboard. This works great, although Quill will likely remain my go-to app for taking longer notes.
I have to push way too hard in the Quill app to get pen strokes to appear... Thats the only negative to me. There needs to be a sensitivity option.
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I have to push way too hard in the Quill app to get pen strokes to appear... Thats the only negative to me. There needs to be a sensitivity option.
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Totally difference for me, I think it's really sensitive... Or it could just be the pen. Sometimes my pen acts really wonky like constantly giving out input signal even when I am not touching the screen.
New solution for this:
using app like "no system bar"
does the trick, now the root is available
Can you use the prime as a tablet only with the keyboard dock attached? What I mean is can you attach the keyboard backwards so the keyboard is covered by the tablet and you're only adding the additional battery? Or fold the keyboard completely over and turn it off so even if you press a key it doesn't register?
Not something I'd do always but it'd be a nice feature to have as an option.
No this isn't possible.
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Can you use the prime as a tablet only with the keyboard dock attached? What I mean is can you attach the keyboard backwards so the keyboard is covered by the tablet and you're only adding the additional battery? Or fold the keyboard completely over and turn it off so even if you press a key it doesn't register?
Not something I'd do always but it'd be a nice feature to have as an option.
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No, dock connectors would be backwards and wouldnt fit
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Thanks guys. That's too bad; oh well, not a deal breaker but it would have been nice.
The EEE slider seems more of an option that you might like. Though it has last years specs. Maybe a new one is on the way?
http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_Pad/Eee_Pad_Slider_SL101/
In the dock or by itself?
I normally use mine on a table while docked and laying down when undocked.
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I tend to either use mine in the dock if on a surface, or portrait in my hands sometimes if I'm reading something. Any text entry makes me want the dock in a hurry.
By itself always in landscape mode. Thumb keyboard makes it very easy for me to type very fast. Plus holding it with 2 hands less likely to drop it. That's the goo thing with thumb keyboard. MAKES YOU get used to holding it thst way.
demandarin said:
By itself always in landscape mode. Thumb keyboard makes it very easy for me to type very fast. Plus holding it with 2 hands less likely to drop it. That's the goo thing with thumb keyboard. MAKES YOU get used to holding it thst way.
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I hold Mine like you, however I use the Android virtual keyboard and not the default Asus one. I think the android one rocks I can type so quick with it, quicker then I can with the dock! The default Asus one is a pile of dog turd, if you press letters within a split second of each other it gets confused and just types out some randomness.
Haven't tried thumb keyboard before however, might give it a look
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When not docked, I use a thumb keyboard and tend to hold mine landscape.
When docked, it sits on my desk much like my former eepc would.
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I split about half and half between landscape and portrait. But when I type, I always have it in portrait because thumb typing is a stretch in landscape.
Autobots,roll out! Sent from my Transformer Prime.
unless I'm playing a game, I use my Prime mostly docked and I use it anywhere, in the bed, on the sofa, sitting at the kitchen counter, etc.
When I read those threads, I can't believe my eyes... Come on opening a thread about how people hold their Prime? Who cares?
Are those pages moderated? It's a pity to see how if used this wonderful tool that is XDa....
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When I read those threads, I can't believe my eyes... Come on opening a thread about how people hold their Prime? Who cares?
Are those pages moderated? It's a pity to see how if used this wonderful tool that is XDa....
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Agree. Report the first post, the only thing you can do.
Striatum_bdr said:
When I read those threads, I can't believe my eyes... Come on opening a thread about how people hold their Prime? Who cares?
Are those pages moderated? It's a pity to see how if used this wonderful tool that is XDa....
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Here's an idea. If you don't care just move along. Wise words your momma should taught you are "If you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all."
report for what? general talk in the general forum? If you dont like it you dont have to come to this thread. easy as that. read the topic and think "wow thats something i really dont need" and you dont click it and easy as that.
Sigh, the ignorance of some people.
As to myself, i usually have mine in the dock, im considering getting some 3m carbon fiber stuff for the back, the aluminum scratches so easy... :/
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In the dock or by itself?
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We hold'em in the RMA Service Center usually.
vincepg13 said:
The default Asus one is a pile of dog turd, if you press letters within a split second of each other it gets confused and just types out some randomness.
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The Asus one has Swype-like functionality from Nuance, so it assumes you're trying to swipe if you press keys in rapid succession. I think you can turn it off in the settings.
I don't like any on-screen keyboards much though.
I use the Steve Jobs technique!
Cheers
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When I read those threads, I can't believe my eyes... Come on opening a thread about how people hold their Prime? Who cares?
Are those pages moderated? It's a pity to see how if used this wonderful tool that is XDa....
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traxxus said:
Agree. Report the first post, the only thing you can do.
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You mad brah's? As mentioned before this is general discussion for this device. Its not a support question, and has nothing to do with development so it goes in this forum. Don't like it? Then don't open the thread. And the whole reporting thing (for nothing wrong), don't waste the mod's and admin's precious time. They won't do anything about it.
So Apple has me into the whole "inverted" scrolling on trackpads... now I can't get used to it being one way on my prime and another on my macbook.
The hard solution is sell the mac and buy a new laptop...
The easier solution... is there a way to invert it on the prime?
Try Settings-> Asus Customized settings. Then on the cursor option, change to gesture mode. I think that will yield the results you're looking for.
Indeed it does... however it also changes the mouse cursor to a giant circle?
Can you uninvert it on the Mac? Then your Mac and prime will match too.
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I just wished that swiping on the keyboard acted the same as it does on the Prime itself! Lol, I hate going from moving my hand one way on the screen to the opposite way on the trackpad.
I'm already used to it, but I shouldn't have had to get that way: seems counter-intuitive this way doesn't it?
yes. its annoying.
Just get an external mouse. 30 bucks and I can use the scrollwheel too.
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Just get an external mouse. 30 bucks and I can use the scrollwheel too.
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Um. Why? No, I have plenty of wireless mice, but then why did I buy a $150 dock with a trackpad? In some situations I do use a mouse/keyboard, but that still solves nothing about the trackpad swiping - you don't swipe side to side with a mouse wheel.