MIUI??? like really? - Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I have been switching between MIUI and CM7 for a very long time now, both on the fascinate and droid incredible 2. now i dont know why but i always seem to find cm7 so much faster and snappier but i love how polished and customisable MIUI is... i always end up going back to cm7. does anyone else notice this? i know alot of people say quadrant scores are a bad representation of phone speed but with cm7 on glitch kernel i can easily hit 4000 when OC'd to 1400 ghz....but then when on MIUI with the same OC i can barley get over 2000 to a 2200 in quadrant. i dont understand how the difference can be so great between the two. i really like MIUI... but if i have to sacrifice more than half the performance of cm7 just for a bit more polish then whats the point? does anyone else have the same problem?
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black.v00d00 said:
So I have been switching between MIUI and CM7 for a very long time now, both on the fascinate and droid incredible 2. now i dont know why but i always seem to find cm7 so much faster and snappier but i love how polished and customisable MIUI is... i always end up going back to cm7. does anyone else notice this? i know alot of people say quadrant scores are a bad representation of phone speed but with cm7 on glitch kernel i can easily hit 4000 when OC'd to 1400 ghz....but then when on MIUI with the same OC i can barley get over 2000 to a 2200 in quadrant. i dont understand how the difference can be so great between the two. i really like MIUI... but if i have to sacrifice more than half the performance of cm7 just for a bit more polish then whats the point? does anyone else have the same problem?
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Nope
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I do notice this too.
I love MIUI but it just doesn't feel fast enough!

Quadrant is 100% useless, don't trust it for anything. Use what you like, not what gets a good score in a benchmark which is known to give very very unreliable results all the time.
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sageDieu said:
Quadrant is 100% useless, don't trust it for anything. Use what you like, not what gets a good score in a benchmark which is known to give very very unreliable results all the time.
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I agree. I use speedtest once a while but never quad
better to be safe than odining - me

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How to get a high Quadrant Score?

I currently have nemesis lag fix installed. I get around 1700+ on quadrant. How do people get 2000+? Help? Thankss.
EDIT: Barely get 1600 now
dwight28 said:
I currently have nemesis lag fix installed. I get around 1700+ on quadrant. How do people get 2000+? Help? Thankss.
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First of all, Quadrant scores don't really do anything except let you see the differences between certain roms. It has almost 0 bearing on real world performance. But, to answer your question, the aosp roms (vanilla froyo, MIUI, cyanogen mod) are the ones that are going to get you the 2000+ scores.
AOSP+OC kernel. Quadrant score is just a number, you should pay attention to how the phone feels in everyday use rather than some number that means nothing in normal use.
dwight28 said:
I currently have nemesis lag fix installed. I get around 1700+ on quadrant. How do people get 2000+? Help? Thankss.
EDIT: Barely get 1600 now
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That's about right if you're not running aosp or miui...I am testing out aosp honeycomb theme with oc/UV kernel and phone is the fastests it's ever been. I just tested quadrant for you and I pulled a 2300+. Then again...it's only quadrant...but the phone feels quicker too.
quadrant serves no purpose than giving you a hard-on for your phone
uninstall it and live a happier life
nitsuj17 said:
quadrant serves no purpose than giving you a hard-on for your phone
uninstall it and live a happier life
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+1
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*Facepalm*
don't listen to these buffoons. they don't have a clue.
Quadrant scores are important, and are the most accurate representation of the amount of horsepower-amperage your phone outputifies.
My phone gets 2333 whorespower per mile.
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It's an understood growth stage. You figure out the basic concept of rooting and become obsessed with benchmarks until you realize that A) No one else cares.
B) Your 2400 score translates into 3 hours of battery life and an unstable phone.
And C) There are no applications out side of benchmarks where the difference can be seen or felt in use.
How about underclocking and undervolting while maintaining stability and use?
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chronster said:
don't listen to these buffoons. they don't have a clue.
Quadrant scores are important, and are the most accurate representation of the amount of horsepower-amperage your phone outputifies.
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I hope your being sarcastic. Because this is a very ignorant statement.
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nitsuj17 said:
quadrant serves no purpose than giving you a hard-on for your phone
uninstall it and live a happier life
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Sooooo, what does it mean when I already have a hard-on for my phone without looking at a benchmark or quadrant score?
landshark68 said:
Sooooo, what does it mean when I already have a hard-on for my phone without looking at a benchmark or quadrant score?
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seek treatment
nitsuj17 said:
seek treatment
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+1 anything over 4 hours please seek medical attention as it can be fatal. Also may cause blindness and loss of feeling in feet and toes.

Suggestions for kernel/mod?

So my wife just got a fascinate (coming from Droid x) and I was wondering what a good kernel rom combination is for good battery life and stability?
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Post this in the q&a section. Not development...
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Powerwashed 1.2 with pbj 8-8 kernel seems to be the most reliable for a lot of people. If your phone cannot handle the under volt then use pw otb 8-15 kernel. Your radio should be ed 05
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My bad, can someone move it? haha
Thanks laureanop, I'll for sure look into those, I just have no starting point, everything is a lot easier on my OG droid... and my droid 2 has only a few options so that makes it easier too hahaha
For me, MIUI has the best battery life and is just great in general. I recommend giing it a try; it has a few issues but nothing major. The pros outweigh the cons.
OTB Over Clock kernel and Evil Fascination ROM play well together on mine, thought you can have some radio issues (it was a pain to fix but my how to is on here somewhere) if you are going to do this from another non stock image.
I just installed power washed with the pbj kernel for now (not big on miui personally, feels unorganized like iOS and wasn't a huge fan on my OG Droid... Of course that was back when it like first came out lol i'm sure it's allot better now) i'm just waiting on the verdict from her on battery life and performance, played with it some last night and it felt great (especially after putting launcher pro instead of go launcher, which is nice but just didn't have that snappy feel I like) but you know everything seems fast @ first, we'll see after a couple days...
I'm sure it'll be allot better than stock either way lol
Edit: thank new I'll check that out if she's not big on the current setup, I see allot of people liking evil, so that was on my list of thing to try, just was not sure what to pair with, thanks!
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CM7 + Glitch's Kernel.
Yeah MIUI has gotten much slicker and faster recently. If you're not into that, go with Vanilla Gingerbread or CM7, they are both very fast and clean. I recommend the glitch kernel with underclocking and undervolting to get best performance and battery life.
Yeah I was prolly gonna throw cm7 on there but it's still in nighties so I'd rather not unless it was my phone
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The current setup of power washed and pbj seem to be pretty sweet for now...she was still at 70% after it being off the charger for about.... 19 or so hours...where she would normally be in the red after 15 or so...
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MoPho quadrant scores

Could I get few people to post their scores? I wanna make sure im on par with a normal photon and I didn't **** something up LOL
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I have scored as high as 2,800 and as low as 2,000. Not sure what accounts for the fluctuation (The lower scores have been more recent).
slicedcheese said:
I have scored as high as 2,800 and as low as 2,000. Not sure what accounts for the fluctuation (The lower scores have been more recent).
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After the first two runs, I can consistently get 2,750-2,800 on Quadrant Standard.
Are you running a stock rooted/locked setup? Or are you running a custom rom/unlocked/overclocked setup? Cause I'm usually around 4500 to 4900.
xTMFxOffshore said:
Are you running a stock rooted/locked setup? Or are you running a custom rom/unlocked/overclocked setup? Cause I'm usually around 4500 to 4900.
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My scores were just run as stock & unrooted. I reset my phone last weekend for a service call and Sprint is going to exchange it tomorrow for a new (and hopefully less buggy) Photon.
Why are people continuing to use a benchmark that Cyanogen himself proved was flawed and easily faked?
I got a 5400 without the loop trick with it well is 9000 high enough
Lokifish Marz said:
Why are people continuing to use a benchmark that Cyanogen himself proved was flawed and easily faked?
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Lokifish Marz said:
Why are people continuing to use a benchmark that ****Cyanogen himself proved was flawed and easily faked?[/URL]
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Hm, never knew about that.
And my bootloader is unlocked, i am also on alien build #1.
Switch to the Skinny ROM with the OC kernel. That flies.
xTMFxOffshore said:
Switch to the Skinny ROM with the OC kernel. That flies.
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I'm thinking about it just going to wait a little longer till my phone feels a little less new.
Ill throw in a few. Running CM7
Quad - 3458(before i loaded CM7i was around 2500 if i remember correct)
Linpack Single Thread - 42.34
Linpack - Multiple Thread - 69.239
AnTuTu - 5149
Vellamo - 863
3496 running skinny with the 1.3 kernel I have been loving this rom, having great battery life as well
Just curious but what are your Guy's charging times? Like from anything under 5 percent to 100 percent. I am asking just because drain times vary but charge times should not.
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I just got a 3 in linpack
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lroy said:
Ill throw in a few. Running CM7
Quad - 3458(before i loaded CM7i was around 2500 if i remember correct)
Linpack Single Thread - 42.34
Linpack - Multiple Thread - 69.239
AnTuTu - 5149
Vellamo - 863
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NICE. I just got CM7 and im getting WAY better scores.
And as far as kernels go, i havent flashed one yet because im afraid of it killing my battery, or breaking wifi. Can you give me a link to a OC kernel that doesnt break wifi, and isnt too heavy on battery?
Well you have one option for cm7, lol
DethMetalz69 said:
NICE. I just got CM7 and im getting WAY better scores.
And as far as kernels go, i havent flashed one yet because im afraid of it killing my battery, or breaking wifi. Can you give me a link to a OC kernel that doesnt break wifi, and isnt too heavy on battery?
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DethMetalz69 said:
NICE. I just got CM7 and im getting WAY better scores.
And as far as kernels go, i havent flashed one yet because im afraid of it killing my battery, or breaking wifi. Can you give me a link to a OC kernel that doesnt break wifi, and isnt too heavy on battery?
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did you had to unlock to get cm7?? is better than stock? do you lose any functionality?
hjcg2001 said:
did you had to unlock to get cm7?? is better than stock? do you lose any functionality?
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You loose all blur stuff. If you ran or have used cm7 before, you'll want it again and again. It's snappy and smooth. My stock blur would fc on me but my photon w cm7 has not fc once yet.
For charge times, I was at 27% (after 3 days run time) and I got to 95% in less then an hour and a half.
This week I may flash the beta kernel for cm7 and retest but depends on work schedule. Still trying to get a good calculation of cm7 and battery run time. So far amazing!
Little better after flashing jokers v3 kernel for CM7. loving CM! I think my phone can go faster then I can type with my ugly thumbs.
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Cm7 with jokers kernel.
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CM9

Hi guys, I just want your opinion on our CM9 build. I checked and the average quadrant score on CM9 is generally lower than CM7 by about 300 points while overclocked to the same clock speed. I know quadrant isn't much but I feel it as well and ICS just feels less smooth than the gingerbread roms although it's supposed t be lighter. Can someone please explain? Is it a problem with ICS or CM9? If our AOSP rom develops do you think it will be smoother?
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The performance is great imo. But it's too buggy for the avarage power user and it literally fried my battery xD
If you want looks, use CM9.
If you want performance, use Cm7.
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OK Thanks guys
Closed.

[Q] what´s the fastest JB rom?

Hi, I want to know which JB do you recomend as the fastest, I´ve tried the epinter, jokersax, aokp, and miui. But still the Mrom scores higher with the antutu benchmark.
Currently I´m using Mrom and so far the battery life and the speed of the Atrix is awesome. Without having to overclock I get 5,340 of score, Is there a JB rom that can score to at least 5,000 with the antutu without having to overclock?
Why do benchmarks mean so much to you?
You already tried all the JB roms pretty much anyways, you most likely answered your own question.
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Benchmarks mean nothing. Whether your phone lags doing day to day operations is the only thing that matters
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Synthetic benchmarks are completely useless and meaningless in that they do not represent normal day-to-day usage patterns. Personal experience is by far the best benchmark there is.
EDIT: bah, too late, has been said already.
ravilov said:
Synthetic benchmarks are completely useless and meaningless in that they do not represent normal day-to-day usage patterns. Personal experience is by far the best benchmark there is.
EDIT: bah, too late, has been said already.
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I got a kick out of the benchmark results that came out with iPhone 5 vs GS3. IPhone was higher slightly and isheeps were doing circle jerks because of it. I've never seen a cross platform benchmark test and I tried saying how benchmarks do not mean a thing. I got down voted hard.
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andrew.cambridge said:
I got a kick out of the benchmark results that came out with iPhone 5 vs GS3. IPhone was higher slightly and isheeps were doing circle jerks because of it. I've never seen a cross platform benchmark test and I tried saying how benchmarks do not mean a thing. I got down voted hard.
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Its funny too because in a few months there will probably be an android phone that's even twice as powerful as the gs3. The isheep thinking they will always have the best are sadly mistaken.
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chafamexxx said:
Hi, I want to know which JB do you recomend as the fastest, I´ve tried the epinter, jokersax, aokp, and miui. But still the Mrom scores higher with the antutu benchmark.
Currently I´m using Mrom and so far the battery life and the speed of the Atrix is awesome. Without having to overclock I get 5,340 of score, Is there a JB rom that can score to at least 5,000 with the antutu without having to overclock?
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Till now all JB roms are experimental, so I prefer a stable one, rather than fast.
You won't find a "very fast" JB rom 'cause we dont have the drivers neither the kernel for managing everything as the GB roms
I tried several and at least with the day-by-day use, epinters was the best, no lag but some games didn't run as fast as the GB rom
joelorona said:
You won't find a "very fast" JB rom 'cause we dont have the drivers neither the kernel for managing everything as the GB roms
I tried several and at least with the day-by-day use, epinters was the best, no lag but some games didn't run as fast as the GB rom
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I use CNA 3.6.5, some games like Cut The Rope overspeed a bit.
joelorona said:
You won't find a "very fast" JB rom 'cause we dont have the drivers neither the kernel for managing everything as the GB roms
I tried several and at least with the day-by-day use, epinters was the best, no lag but some games didn't run as fast as the GB rom
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thanks to everyone for the responses, I´ll keep my Mrom for now and wait to see if Motorola releases the Drivers so we can have the hardware acceleration on JB.

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