why in the world did you buy a tablet to begin with? im sure most xda members have at least 2 computers in the home.
these tablets are kinda a useless toy more than anything LOL.
personally i have 1 main laptop, 2 extra laptops (one running linux that i have no clue about and another with no power cord and no idea if it even works (got them for free from an abandonded house) and 2 desktops and one of them is in the garage thats used mostly for resarch on vehicle repairs...this tablet is kinda just a extra toy but since these hp touchpads were 100 bucks on black friday locally i snagged 2 of them (one as a gift for the 12 year old) and one for me as it may be easier to use when working on my car instead of using a laptop which is bigger....which was really the only reason why i think i would use it...pictures and wiring diagrams and web searches related to it and at a 100 bucks for a good powerful unit it makes sense if it gets a little greasy or dirty lol.
what was your reason for getting a tablet? just another geek toy or for a real purpose. for my wife these tablets are almost useless in terms of productivity as these programs are for entertainment and games more than business at least for real estate anyways.
im just curious what the hype is over these things
Because laptops suck for mobile computing, they take forever to startup and the battery is something you always have to be conscious of. With a tablet I can have access to my calendar, the web, games, music, video, maps and pictures wherever I go.
My phone is too under powered and screen to too small for it to be much of use other than taking and placing calls.
My tablet is much more than a toy, I use it to configure routers and lookup solutions to computing issues, I have remote surveillance camera apps, remote desktop apps, FTP, email, etc...
The Touchpad is turning out to be one of the best and most practical purchases I've ever made.
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got my attention on those! care to share details what you have?
I got a touchpad to replace my aging netbook. Its for use in bed while watching TV. I have a few computers too, but most of the time all I want is web browsing.
We constantly use that netbook and the battery has broken twice now, this time out of warranty. So all we want is a compact long lasting web browsing experience. I want something bigger than my phone. Enter the tablet.
Heres the long story: I had actually forgotten the Touchpad and didn't know the full specs. On Thanksgiving day I had a kindle Fire in my Amazon cart, waiting to see if by some miracle on black Friday they would discount the new device. I mentioned this to a friend, and he suggested the Touchpad. After some research I knew that's what I really wanted. I liked webOS, but not a pre, I wanted 10" screen, but not for $500, I wanted quality product, not the crap you see all over for $100. Again I was ready to pull the trigger on a touchpad at $229 on eBay. The same friend told me about a black Friday ad for a furniture store not known for electronics, touchpad for $99. So I stood in the freezing cold for hours, just to be one of the first to not get one. I managed to get one on the way home for $195. I happily paid that price. Its still cheaper than a new netbook. (I know a battery is cheaper, but I don't want to keep getting batteries)
Now its on my shelf waiting for Christmas, taunting me each day. I am thoroughly excited to give webOS another try. And the icing on the cake is CM7 or ICS or Windows 8.
Just like people use computers for different things, myself I would not bring a computer or tablet into the garage for car repairs, I can't afford to risk breaking something that costs $200. For that I have a $10 haynes manual. With my phone I could easily give up one big feature: the ability to make phone calls. I use <100 minutes a month, but I use 700+ texts, and 7GB of data. Everyone has their own usage habits. For me the touchpad looks perfect.
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Remote desktop:
2x Client
androidVNC
Splashtop
Remote camera viewing:
IP Cam viewer lite
SuperCam_Pro
tinyCam Monitor
Also I use Google Voice, so I can review my voice mails and text from my tablet.
I have an iPhone 4S, HP TouchPad, Alienware M15x laptop and a custom made desktop with watercooling and I asked myself this very same question. Then I realized that I have one for reading books and browsing the internet easily without having to really worry about battery power. My laptop is a big and bulky gaming laptop and it's just not the right thing to take everywhere I go. It has it's place but for somewhere I just want to read a book or do some light browsing/Facebook/Twitter, my tablet almost always gets priority. This might change a little when I buy a Macbook Air next year (since it's small, thin and very light) but probably not too much unless I want to do something like play an online game or do some programming.
It's kinda wierd when you say that getting 1 tablet is a useless toy when you have 3 laptops (1 main, 1 linux [that you don't know how to use], and 1 dead/powercord-less) and 2 desktops.
The one tablet will replace your 2 extra laptop + one of your other desktops (if you feel the need to have 1 dedicated laptop and desktop.
But in essence, it's simply because startup time is instantaneous. It does all the basic functions that you would do when you are outside. It lasts longer (my laptop lasts 2-4 hours depending on how much i screw with it.) and ofcourse, it's much much much smaller therefore more portable and less to set up.
I personally thought I had no use for a tablet as well, but when I finally got one, it actually allowed me to go in and out of places faster and without hassle as compared to opening up my laptop, waiting for it to start up, and after i'm done using, wait for it to shut down.
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Bought it to play with, now that I have it my 17" laptop and my 12" netbook are hardly ever switched on. It's not something you can really understand until you try it for yourself.
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I have an iPhone 4S, HP TouchPad, Alienware M15x laptop and a custom made desktop with watercooling and I asked myself this very same question. Then I realized that I have one for reading books and browsing the internet easily without having to really worry about battery power. My laptop is a big and bulky gaming laptop and it's just not the right thing to take everywhere I go. It has it's place but for somewhere I just want to read a book or do some light browsing/Facebook/Twitter, my tablet almost always gets priority. This might change a little when I buy a Macbook Air next year (since it's small, thin and very light) but probably not too much unless I want to do something like play an online game or do some programming.
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I'm in the same boat with the behemoth gaming laptop (asus g73)....it's powerful for running games and my engineering programmes but not as portable and quick to access as a tablet, especially when with the HP touchpad i can remote access the laptop ...for £115 i won't argue on it's merits
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Like others, I bought mine to (somewhat) replace my laptop. Its far ligher, smaller, gets slightly better battery life in Android and far better battery life in webOS. Its great for web surfing and email. I'm really hoping a decent office suite shows up soon, but for now Quickoffice is ok. Remote desktop sounds like it would be great but I can never get them configured right so they've always been unusable sluggish for me.
Paired with a bluetooth keyboard and the right software, a tablet can be an amazing productivity device.
I also got the Touchpad to replace my laptop for books and internet. My experience is like others, the battery life and small size (relatively) are what got me. It also works well for the kids when we go on trips. It is much easier to get out the TP than the laptop in the car. I am completely satisfied with my purchases.
On top of just liking tablets, I keep vpn and RDP clients on it so I always have access to my servers at work, as well as the security cameras there.
Also, it's funny you say all tabs are useless, and then name all these useless PC's around your house, lol.
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I got my tab to replace my dying laptop, temporarily. I picked up a TouchPad partly because of price, and partly to try webOS. My plan was, and still is, to get an ultrabook next year and the TP is doing a great job bridging the gap I needed.
Depending on how well linux will run natively on one, I may not need to get a laptop at all.
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Media, annoying bringing my laptop to work sometimes.
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Seriously though, I always wanted a more portable laptop (ie. a touchscreen tablet). It's just very intuitive. Yes, it's kind of redundant if you have both a laptop and a smartphone already, but even a few inches of screen real estate can make a big difference. The TP or any tablet is great as an e-reader and general purpose web browser or media viewer. You can also do light gaming too. They work well to read or surf the internet laying in bed or while sitting on the couch. Basically, to me they kind of replace netbooks. I couldn't see using one as your only computer, but as a 2nd or 3rd machine, they're convenient.
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I just wanted to be cool
Seriously though, I always wanted a more portable laptop (ie. a touchscreen tablet). It's just very intuitive. Yes, it's kind of redundant if you have both a laptop and a smartphone already, but even a few inches of screen real estate can make a big difference. The TP or any tablet is great as an e-reader and general purpose web browser or media viewer. You can also do light gaming too. They work well to read or surf the internet laying in bed or while sitting on the couch. Basically, to me they kind of replace netbooks. I couldn't see using one as your only computer, but as a 2nd or 3rd machine, they're convenient.
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This is exactly how I feel. The tablet to me fills that hole between computer and phone. I have a 4.3" phone, plenty big, but the 10" seems perfect for lap use. I don't need USB ports for peripherals, for that I have my laptop (that I use a desktop).
The touchstone dock is very tempting for me. To be able to just set it down when done, and not fumble for cords seems like the perfect use case.
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I found that I was using my laptop, which at the time was my only computer, pretty much only for e-mail and web browsing and thought that a tablet would be useful, but paying $600 for a Xoom (which I really wanted) wasn't very appealing. So when I found out about the firesale on day 1 I went to Wal-mart (no luck) and then my local Staples (32GB score!). I used it for about two weeks and found I never used my laptop in that time period. So I sold my laptop for $750.
In that same time period I bought a new Alienware Aurora R3 desktop which fulfills my "real computer" needs, which other than gaming are few and far between since I can't take my work home and I'm done with school permanently (MS is enough for me).
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I found that I was using my laptop, which at the time was my only computer, pretty much only for e-mail and web browsing and thought that a tablet would be useful, but paying $600 for a Xoom (which I really wanted) wasn't very appealing. So when I found out about the firesale on day 1 I went to Wal-mart (no luck) and then my local Staples (32GB score!). I used it for about two weeks and found I never used my laptop in that time period. So I sold my laptop for $750.
In that same time period I bought a new Alienware Aurora R3 desktop which fulfills my "real computer" needs, which other than gaming are few and far between since I can't take my work home and I'm done with school permanently (MS is enough for me).
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Kinda the same story here.... within a few months I went from a 12" iBook and dumphone, to a big smartphone, tablet and 17" gaming laptop
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This is exactly how I feel. The tablet to me fills that hole between computer and phone. I have a 4.3" phone, plenty big, but the 10" seems perfect for lap use. I don't need USB ports for peripherals, for that I have my laptop (that I use a desktop).
The touchstone dock is very tempting for me. To be able to just set it down when done, and not fumble for cords seems like the perfect use case.
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The touchstone is pretty cool. It's nice to not have to futz with a power cord, and at least on my TP, the microUSB port is a little finicky so I have to angle cords to get them in. That said, the 3.0.4 update changed something with the Touchstone sensitivity, so I can no longer charge with the HP case on it and the flap folded back, like I used to. Otherwise it seems ok. At this point I could definitely live without the TS, but it is nice for grab'n'go usage.
First off, we can all agree that laptops are too clunky and short batter life for what 90% of us all do: e-mail, web browse (facebook, google+, ebay, etc) , watch videos, watch netflix, light gaming (some with Flash). I used to use my HTC EVO 4G to do all that stuff, but with such small screen it wasn't the best. If I were stuck on an Island, I wouldn't hesitate to bring my phone as my primary device. But, the future happened and now we have tablets. They don't do what laptops/netbooks do, but they do what 90% of us do with much longer batter life and being less clunky. I wouldn't have thought about it, but I use my tablet about 80-90% of the time while I'm at home. I just turn my laptop on to do programming or major gaming. Otherwise, there would be no easier way to re-watch all of DS9 on Netflix if it were not for my tablet. It is very easy to read while on the couch, laying outside in the yard, before going to bed, right after waking up in the morning, or in the restroom.
I got my HP TouchPad for $99, and even though the Asus Tranformer Prime is around the corner and I want it, I can't justify spending a couple of hundred of dollars for what I already have.
Summary: Get a tablet, you won't regret it.
I tried to figure out what the big deal is myself....then I got one.
For 99, I think I have the best of everything for the price.
Sure this device could have expansion slots, Back Facing camera, etc.
But I don't go plunk down Chevy money and expect a Cadillac...
A lot of us use Email, browse the web and look at forums, Facebook, pictures.
This device does this perfectly...
Battery lasts forever compared to most laptops, and about 1/4 the weight/thickness on average.
WebOS' built in VPN client actually works out of the box connecting to work with my older Cisco VPN hardware (Concentrator...not ASA series)
Now that WebOS has a good Remote Desktop Client (I use Splashtop, but I'm not putting the streamer on my servers, etc.) it is very useful for work.
As long as I have a WiFi connection (which...I have a T-bolt...tethering) it is a great resource for work.
Would I type out a novel on it? No....a LONG drawn out email? no...
If you got a TP at or near firesale prices, IMO...you got the holy grail of 2011 in geekdom.
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so this galaxy tab is interesting, well all of the android tablets are, not sure which one is the best, but yeah. i mean its not as powerful as a computer, and its limited because it lacks the huge support windows has.. its much larger than a phone, yet worse specs.. i cant help but think i should just get a netbook.. i mean i want to like tablets, because i think it might be fun, but i just cant seem to find any big selling points to convince me to drop a few hundred dollars into one..
thoughts?
- watch videos while you cook
- watch videos while you are in the bath
- watch videos while you are in the livingroom with the tv on and not watching it
- watch videos in the public transport
not much more, the tablets are simply a sustitute of the netbooks, more battery. more screen, less weight, similar funtions.
*watch videos can be changed for play angry birds or reading websites
I know what you mean, I'm struggling with the same thoughts.
I kinda want a tab, but I have no idea if I'd use it over my laptop.
I guess its smaller, lighter and more mobile, longer battery, more focused (by that I mean the apps and games are really geared up for the platform, where as a lot of windows games are awkward to play on a laptop).
Thats about it I think?
but didnt they take out more battery from the tab, to be thinner than the ipad2? whats the battery life now, compared to what it was?
Dont know what this is doing in a mobile phone sub forum but hey I'll bite anyway....
I have a very decent desktop, extremely decent laptop, currently using a Dell Steak as a phone (cross between a phone and tablet) but whilst im at home none of them really get used.
I have a Advent Vega 10.1 inch tablet, it is not the best tablet out there by far, but you get good bang for your buck. Im currently running froyo on it and love it to pieces. I use it for general web browsing whilst watching tv, reading books via kindle app, emails, playing Angry Birds etc whilst again watching tv, music whilst cooking/washing up etc.... The great thing is the portability for its size, also how easy it is to pick up and quickly do what you want snd then put it back down again...
I know what you mean, but until you have one then you wont actually realise how handy they are - I wouldn't be without mine now
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My Galaxy Tab lasts a good 2-3 days before needing to be charged. I use it for about 20 minutes at a time at least 5-6 times a day, although mine is flashed with the overcome rom which I'm told improves the battery quite drastically. I use it for almost everything now, email, web browsing, call making, text sending, video playing, game playing, music listening(winamp widget ), GPS navigating and even comic reading(reading The Walking Dead on the Tab while taking a poop = heaven).
When I was considering buying it, I had the same questions going through my head. I already have a laptop and a phone so what's the point in a tablet? And to be totally honest, ever since I bought it I've used my laptop all of about 3 times in a month, and that was only to capture video. And my phone? Ugh, hate it now. I'd rather use the tab as a phone than my crappy Nokia.
If you're planning on getting an SGS2 then don't bother with the tablet. Aside from the screen size the SGS2 will kick mud in the Tab's face all day long. Once my SGS2 arrives I foresee the tab doing nothing more than collecting dust.
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My Galaxy Tab lasts a good 2-3 days before needing to be charged. I use it for about 20 minutes at a time at least 5-6 times a day, although mine is flashed with the overcome rom which I'm told improves the battery quite drastically. I use it for almost everything now, email, web browsing, call making, text sending, video playing, game playing, music listening(winamp widget ), GPS navigating and even comic reading(reading The Walking Dead on the Tab while taking a poop = heaven).
When I was considering buying it, I had the same questions going through my head. I already have a laptop and a phone so what's the point in a tablet? And to be totally honest, ever since I bought it I've used my laptop all of about 3 times in a month, and that was only to capture video. And my phone? Ugh, hate it now. I'd rather use the tab as a phone than my crappy Nokia.
If you're planning on getting an SGS2 then don't bother with the tablet. Aside from the screen size the SGS2 will kick mud in the Tab's face all day long. Once my SGS2 arrives I foresee the tab doing nothing more than collecting dust.
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yeah i guess youre right, it would be nice to use my manga app on tho, but i guess ill pass on the tab.. i wonder whats better, the tab or the xoom
My mum and dad got me an iPad first gen for xmas.. i sent it back the next day because i think tablets = worthless..
Im gonna get a 4.3inch phone that is mad powerful.. why would i need a tab?
I was thinking of getting a Tablet when I had my Blackberry, but since leaving crackberry and getting an Android phone I was really impressed, got a DHD at the moment and it can do most thing I want it to do, nice 4.3" screen for web browsing, music, videos etc, all things i struggled to do well on a crackberry! I think this Samsung will replace most things I use as in MP3 player etc.
For the time being I won't be buying a tablet until I get fed up of the phone or my needs expand over time.
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I was thinking of getting a Tablet when I had my Blackberry, but since leaving crackberry and getting an Android phone I was really impressed, got a DHD at the moment and it can do most thing I want it to do, nice 4.3" screen for web browsing, music, videos etc, all things i struggled to do well on a crackberry! I think this Samsung will replace most things I use as in MP3 player etc.
For the time being I won't be buying a tablet until I get fed up of the phone or my needs expand over time.
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Glad to know I won't be disappoint when I drop my berry for the SGS2 !
I always thought tablets were pointless. I have a laptop, I've tried netbooks, why do I need a tablet? I've since tried the Galaxy Tab, and now my Xoom, and without going into a lengthy explanation, I use the crap out of the tablets, rarely touch my laptop anymore.
Even with the phone, there are still things you still want to use the tablet for. Plus, there is just something awesome about having android apps on a 10" screen.
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To be honest I miss the push emails but being a main Gmail user not an issue, also the notification lights, BBM is not an issue with LiveProfile/WhatsApp etc. But very happy moving to Android.
Plus there are also reports that BBM is coming to iOS and Android soon enough. Dont know how true that is, but the story is out there.
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Plus there are also reports that BBM is coming to iOS and Android soon enough. Dont know how true that is, but the story is out there.
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That would be suicide for RIM... It's the only thing that draws the younger generation to Blackberry Smart(annoying)phones...
I have a desktop and galaxy S which ill be replacing with S II... aside from that im also getting the asus transformer tablet mainly so that I have a tablet and eventually a netbook too for when im away from home and need more "netbook" utility than a tablet (particularly the keyboard) aside from that... tablet itself will be used while cooking fore xample, or watching videos while im running on my treadmil. for $400 id say not bad, considering thats almost half the price of the phone (if getting from Uk which we basically all are at this point).
again im getting the phone definitely but tablet to compliment it otherwise
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That would be suicide for RIM... It's the only thing that draws the younger generation to Blackberry Smart(annoying)phones...
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I agree and was debating that myself. Why would RIM go ahead and distribute one of the few leverage points they have.
In either case, aside from BBM, Whatsapp is a great alternative.
Non Windows Tablet is for entertainment. Period.
Sure there are few things you can do that might turn them into productive devices, but its always PITA.
It does come in handy if you are lazy ( I am one of the bunch ) and want to watch a movie / TV serial before going to sleep in bed, or want to show pics to your friends and parents without getting them anywhere close to my Laptop or PC (I just hate it when people touch my PC ).
Its good for reading websites in bed or on the toilet seat. And its good for casual gaming. I know some people use it as VNC to control their PCs in case of something urgent. But that can be done from your phone as well.
Honestly, if you have good set of eyes and dont mind smaller screen, you can do all this from 4.3incher like I do with my DHD. But Tablet does have its charms. Specially if its good one like transformer or upcoming Sammy 10.1.
But I wont be buying another device that cannot do what desktop does anymore. I had given a shot to tablets but I wont be buying any of these.
Now Asus EP121 is something I would be interested in if it was couple of 100 USD cheaper. $800 for that and I am sold.
I have a tmo tab 7", and I also have a vibrant, desktop and laptop. I have to I find myself picking up my tab to do my casual web browsing, playing emulators during down time at work, and watching movies/ looking up sports scores while out.. Oh, and making phone calls.
my desktop gets no use what so ever, laptop only when I need to for work. My phone... Just collecting dust. Only use it to tether to my tab.
imo the 7" screen is perfect size, as it is portable enough to fit in my back pocket, light enough to hold in one hand comfortably, and large enough to make entertainment on my phone just silly. If I lay my vibrant on my tab, I can get roughly 3 of them... So even though the screen is only '3" larger', it is considerably larger than a phone.
Its my all in one device, and highly recommend one to all.
>My sister has a xoom, its too big and heavy to use comfortably with one hand.. Not portable at all unless you walk around wirh a man purse. Same as the ipad2
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I would like to hear from people who own tablets and laptops. I would say i wanna hear from only people who have asus eee pads and tablets, but im sure there few in numbers.
I was wondering what people use there asus eee pad (or other tablet) for? Do you use your tablet more then your laptop? What do you enjoy on your tablet that you don't enjoy "as much" on your laptop? Do you feel like it would be worth buying the asus eee pad prime if you already have a great gaming computer?
Quick question. Can you charge a cell phone from the USB port on the Transformer's dock? That's one great thing about owning a laptop, unlimited battery on my phone.
Can the Prime be charged when plugged into a laptop?
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Quick question. Can you charge a cell phone from the USB port on the Transformer's dock? That's one great thing about owning a laptop, unlimited battery on my phone.
Can the Prime be charged when plugged into a laptop?
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thats a good question, i have no idea.
Well, i just bought a high-end laptop (i7, 8gb, 256gb ssd, hd6630), not specially a gamer laptop but handles games fine. And i also bought the prime. I'm replacing my desktop and netbook with them. The idea is to use the laptop for allaround. Games (every kind), programming in eclipse and some photo editing (with my desktop monitor), basically just anything i might want to throw at it. Then using the tablet for mail, im, playing films and music without having to carry a full laptop all around... who knows, in the future maybe even some android-exclusive gaming... and i'm throwing in the dock because i'm a heavy mail user, so i guess it would be more comfortable, and i like the idea of using my SD cards on the tablet, having a USB port for my external hard drive and the 6 hours extra battery. I travel a lot too, so sometimes the laptop won't be suitable for some kind of travelling while the tablet may be. I have to admit that i'm kind of worried that i might not use the tablet enough to justify its cost, but providing i code for Android and every other thing i just said... i believe i won't be dissapointed. The fact i got a laptop for those uses instead of a desktop is that i'm probably moving to a foreign country soon (1-2 months) and i couldn't afford carrying such a big thing.
When i decided to switch my desktop and netbook for a laptop and a tablet, the transformer (hadn't heard of the prime yet) seemed like my perfect partner, as i use my netbook for almost everything and my desktop just for gaming and photo editing, which is not much lately. If only we had eclipse (or a decent IDE) on the transformer prime, it would really be the perfect gadget for me.
You'll get different answers depending on whether people use them for work, school, or leisure and their overall device portfolio.
I have a high-end i7 desktop with a 23" monitor, a work issued high-end 15" laptop with broadband, a Sony Vaio P with broadband, a tablet with broadband, and a SGS2. All five are connected to my work and personnel Exchange accounts (I don't use Google Mail or apps).
I got a tablet over the Summer and the two devices it impacted most were my phone and the Vaio primarily because out of the three the tablet's now my #1 consumption device. If I'm home and doing anything serious I'll always use my desktop. I'll play with the tablet while I'm watching TV or need to reference something quickly and I have a couple of docks where I'm likely to use it most. I also use it to reply to casual MMS and e-mail because the screen and keyboard are better than the phone's.
If I'm traveling for business where I'll need to do heavy-duty work in Word, Excel, and PowerPoint I'll leave the tablet home and take either my laptop or the Vaio. When I know I'm going to be on the road for a while I'll take the laptop. Anyone who says an Android device can be a subsitute for a work device is nuts. With VPN's, MS Office, extranets et. al., while Android can fake it there's no substitute for native Windows apps, a discrete graphics card, and heaps of RAM and disk space. For day trips and one or two nighter's I'll just bring the tablet because fake-Office will get my by. Same thing if I'm on a leisure trip where I just need to be connected. I do find myself taking the tablet with me when I'm out around town. It's great in restaurants and when you're waiting to be able to read the news, stream media, and send and receive MMS and e-mail. The Vaio does a good job as a consumption device and it's got a 256GB SSD. It's smaller than the tablet but it's still Windows so it takes forever to boot and the screen's not as good as the tablet for video and entertainment type stuff. If I didn't have to be connected to work so much I'd use the tablet instead of the other devices more.
Long answer but bottom line is YMMV depending on what you typically use your laptop (or other devices) for.
According to my experience with the original Transformer (the Prime seems to work the same in this regard)
Yes, phones can be charged via the dock USB port.
No, the Transformer can't be charged by USB on a laptop nor a desktop computer not even a classic power AC or with a classic USB cable.
The Transformer need a 12v output to charge (standard USB cable only handle 5v, and standard power AC only output 5v).
The upside of this is that it charge very very fast (4h is enough to fully charge the dock and the tablet)
I remember on the original transformer, there was a lag when typing online with the dock. It as super annoying when trying to look up stuff at school. I sold it and bought a MBA but I'm hoping this problem is not in the new one so I can get rid of my air for school.
I would say that it's worth it depending on what your needs are. I also have a 17 inch MBP that I never take to school because of the size. However, it is my favorite laptop since the high resolution let's me comfortably view 2 pages side by side and I also have a super fast intel 320 ssd in it. I do have a place in my life for a tablet and I really hope that the prime is it. One of my favorite things to do in the morning was to grab my ipad and go sit on the toilet. Trust me when I say that it's much more uncomfortable balancing a 17 inch laptop on the jon!
^ lmao I know what you mean I have a pc 17" pc laptop and a 13" mbp and I too always spend a great amount of time in the washroom on my 3.7 inch phone. Hopefully I'll be more comfortable when I get the prime. Laptop just to heavy and annoying to use the track pad while on the laptop.
I was wondering this too.
I got a Midrange desktop connected to my 32" 1080p TV and a 15.4" low end laptop.
Im always on my laptop as I moved back home and its not comfy using PC on my bed ha ha. So Im considering if £330 (after voucher and sale of my old HTC Desire) for the Transformer Prime and dock will be worth it while I do not have a job. I am looking for a job and will could get one anytime so tablet will be useful for work based tasks while im away from work and home.
I have a low-end laptop (i3,4gb RAM) and a mid-range desktop (AMD 965 Black, 4gb RAM). This tablet will be strictly for fun, and watching movies while travelling. I had a G Tablet last year and it just didn't do it for me. I'm hoping that the Transformer is all it's cracked up to be, or I'll probably be ditching it in a couple of months.
As they are right now, tablets are primarily for media consumption.
While there are a good amount of productivity apps, the big hitter would be the Android equivalent of Microsoft Office, and having tried most of them, there just aren't any that make the cut.
The ASUS Transformer series are a step in the right direction, mainly because of their distinguishing feature, the keyboard dock. But until there are Android apps that make good use of it, it won't replace my MS Office-equipped Alienware laptop when I really need to get work done.
I used to have the original TF, so I know this from experience. I just hope that with the Prime, they got rid of, or at least improved the typing lag that was present in the TF.
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hbk19 said:
As they are right now, tablets are primarily for media consumption.
While there are a good amount of productivity apps, the big hitter would be the Android equivalent of Microsoft Office, and having tried most of them, there just aren't any that make the cut.
The ASUS Transformer series are a step in the right direction, mainly because of their distinguishing feature, the keyboard dock. But until there are Android apps that make good use of it, it won't replace my MS Office-equipped Alienware laptop when I really need to get work done.
I used to have the original TF, so I know this from experience. I just hope that with the Prime, they got rid of, or at least improved the typing lag that was present in the TF.
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was not aware of typing lag, that would suck BALLS if they didn't get rid of it.
the reason i made this thread is because im planning on buying a laptop, but im worried it will take place of my tablet.. i may still buy them both, but im still not sure.
I have Transformer and recently I was really mad because I had to bring my laptop which was so heavy to finish some powerpoint presentation. I immediately bought USB adapter for Trasnformer and next time I hope my laptop will stay at home where I use it as a desktop.
If you need a laptop, then you need a laptop. Thinking a tablet is going to be a complete replacement is a mistake if you do anything demanding or that requires heavy use of specific applications.
What I think a tablet - and especially the Transformer Prime - replaces is a netbook. Laptops are powerful, but also usually larger, heavier and with considerably worse battery life. Netbooks are cheap, but usually quite anaemically-powered for running desktop OSes, and usually don't have the touch-screen accessibility of a tablet. I think the Prime sits in a great position with respect to size, weight, battery life, power and usability here.
If you'd be happy using a netbook to use the web, email, take notes, play video, chat to people, play simpler games and do some light office application work, the Prime is a real contender. If you need to do something you wouldn't want to do on a netbook, the Prime isn't likely to be any better.
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If you need a laptop, then you need a laptop. Thinking a tablet is going to be a complete replacement is a mistake if you do anything demanding or that requires heavy use of specific applications.
What I think a tablet - and especially the Transformer Prime - replaces is a netbook. Laptops are powerful, but also usually larger, heavier and with considerably worse battery life. Netbooks are cheap, but usually quite anaemically-powered for running desktop OSes, and usually don't have the touch-screen accessibility of a tablet. I think the Prime sits in a great position with respect to size, weight, battery life, power and usability here.
If you'd be happy using a netbook to use the web, email, take notes, play video, chat to people, play simpler games and do some light office application work, the Prime is a real contender. If you need to do something you wouldn't want to do on a netbook, the Prime isn't likely to be any better.
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I agree 100%
I dont know why people even think it can replace a laptop.
Netbook replacement for a Transformer + dock makes much more sense.
Nekromantik said:
I agree 100%
I dont know why people even think it can replace a laptop.
Netbook replacement for a Transformer + dock makes much more sense.
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i don't know if anyones implying something, but i never said/thought it would EVER replace a laptop.
If we had a fully functioning office application (no polaris does not count) then maybe most wouldn't need their laptops.
however until Microsoft release office for android you will need both for most business or study uses.
LibreOffice team working on a free Android version
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If we had a fully functioning office application (no polaris does not count) then maybe most wouldn't need their laptops.
however until Microsoft release office for android you will need both for most business or study uses.
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I highly doubt Microsoft would ever release Office for Android. We may see Android being supported by Office Live! running in the cloud. However, just as we have several MS Office alternatives on the desktop, they are also coming out for Android. The Document Foundation is actively developing LibreOffice for Android.
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however until Microsoft release office for android you will need both for most business or study uses.
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It's more then just MS Office. Someone mentioned PPT. If you're presenting at a clients location god knows what you'll find yourself connecting to for projection. A flat-panel with HDMI? A circa 2000 LCD projector with a VGA cable? DVI? USB? S-Video? And large PPTs are loaded with heavy graphics, transitions, interactivity, and imbedded video. They can tax a low-powered laptop.
And networking at a clients location is tough enough with a Windows laptop where IT staff at least know what settings have to be input to get on their network. And many companies forbid Wi-Fi because of the security risk so you're connecting over Ethernet. The networking tools on Android are really just meh and vary across manufacturers so IT groups usually won't touch them.
And don't forget you're looking at a device with 1GB of RAM, limited graphics capabilities, and a processor that while great for a tablet or phone isn't architected for heavy-duty business apps. This again can even tax a low-end laptop. When MS increased the size of spreadsheets in 64bit Excel I had to buy a dozen new i7 laptops with tons of RAM for people at work because their two-year old laptops could no longer handle the load.
I know these are extremes and only effect a minority of people but just because an Android tablet with a keyboard looks like a laptop won't make it a true replacement in its current form. This is where there's probably a real opening for Windows 8 tablets. It'll support multiple chipsets and the h/w on the high-end will be a lot more powerful and versatile than anything Android. And of course the s/w will be business compatible. So once W8 tablets arrive Android for business use will probably disappear and MS, Dell, and HP know it. Even though I have a tablet with a keyboard, this is what I use when I don't feel like schlepping my 10lbs of laptop and accessories on the road. It's running Windows 7 Ultimate, MS Office 2010, has a 256GB SSD, and weighs a pound and a half with all its accessories.
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It's more then just MS Office. Someone mentioned PPT. If you're presenting at a clients location god knows what you'll find yourself connecting to for projection. A flat-panel with HDMI? A circa 2000 LCD projector with a VGA cable? DVI? USB? S-Video?...
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Asus specifically makes an HDMI to VGA dongle for the Transformer. HDMI is also easily changed into DVI as the signals are electronically compatible. With a Tegra 3 processor the Transformer Prime should handle sophisticated PPT presentations with ease. In fact it would probably be much better than the shoddy Intel integrated graphics on my enterprise business class Tablet PC.
I wouldn't necessarily want to use the Transformer for content creation (not yet), but I would think it would be more than adequate for the business traveler who needs to show presentations.
That is the question. How many of you are just purchasing the tablet and why?
The added benefits of the dock are self explanatory but are they worth the additional 150 dollars to you?
I wonder if working professionals would find the dock as more of a necessity? I may eventually purchase the dock due to the fact that it would work very well in my current job functions.
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I'm a student and the dock and tablet combo is a must-have for me. had the xoom, but taking lecture notes on a touchscreen is too difficult. Used the og transformer w/dock all last year, and it was awesome combo. used as just a tab when couch surfing, and used as netbook when at school.
The tablet + dock combo works way better than a laptop for me for a couple reasons, my laptop is heavier, and battery life sucks, so i constantly have to find an outlet at the library which are always taken up.
PS: In the future please put any questions in the Q + A thread. i noticed u used the xda app, and like me when in favs u never noticed the QA section was made. U have to log in/out and redo the favs to get it to show.
I've pretty much decided that if it weren't for the dock, I'd probably get an ultrabook and a Kindle Fire. The things I'm using a tablet for would be well enough served by a smaller/cheaper tablet, while I need something light with good battery life and physical keyboard for writing. The Prime+dock works well for that, but an ultrabook would work well enough (albeit so for for about $1100).
Note that the writing I'm talking about is draft copy, so I tend to just put words into Evernote and then copy/paste to Word on the desktop for formatting/finishing work. If I needed something to produce finished work with, the Prime+dock wouldn't work.
Actually, The price is just perfect...
think of it this way:
1- If you wanna buy an external battery pack it will cost you around 40-50 $
2- Bluetooth keyboard 30-50 $ minimum
3-USB dongle for USB host 15$ (still not available btw)
4- a stand for the tablet 5-10$
5-adding to that the SD Card slot
All in all you will end up paying around 120$ for much worse quality & convenience for the same functionality. It just makes the prime so much better.
I just want the tab, already have a laptop complete with keyboard. A thought comes to mind, why not a sliding kb like the phones which can be slipped on/off, less footprint. If some smart hacker can figure out how to exploit the theremin effect, a touchless keyboard with aural feedback come become reality. We need new technologies and innovation folks, push the envelope!
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I'm a student and the dock and tablet combo is a must-have for me. had the xoom, but taking lecture notes on a touchscreen is too difficult. Used the og transformer w/dock all last year, and it was awesome combo. used as just a tab when couch surfing, and used as netbook when at school.
The tablet + dock combo works way better than a laptop for me for a couple reasons, my laptop is heavier, and battery life sucks, so i constantly have to find an outlet at the library which are always taken up.
PS: In the future please put any questions in the Q + A thread. i noticed u used the xda app, and like me when in favs u never noticed the QA section was made. U have to log in/out and redo the favs to get it to show.
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Ohh yeah, thanks! I didn't see that forum. Just re added to faves and im good to go!
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Actually, The price is just perfect...
think of it this way:
1- If you wanna buy an external battery pack it will cost you around 40-50 $
2- Bluetooth keyboard 30-50 $ minimum
3-USB dongle for USB host 15$ (still not available btw)
4- a stand for the tablet 5-10$
5-adding to that the SD Card slot
All in all you will end up paying around 120$ for much worse quality & convenience for the same functionality. It just makes the prime so much better.
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Great points!
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tedr44 said:
I just want the tab, already have a laptop complete with keyboard. A thought comes to mind, why not a sliding kb like the phones which can be slipped on/off, less footprint. If some smart hacker can figure out how to exploit the theremin effect, a touchless keyboard with aural feedback come become reality. We need new technologies and innovation folks, push the envelope!
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asus makes a sliding keyboard version of the OG transformer, i'd guess it's only a matter of time so long as that model did well in sales.
personally i found it to be kind of awkward when i played with it at the store, the dock at this size makes more sense to me and has the added functionality of ports and battery.
The only reason I'm getting a Prime is damage to my TF101.
The only reason I got the TF101 was the dock.
I use it like a netbook was originally intended to be (and like modern tablets excell at), not like a laptop or desktop.
I like the battery gain.
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For me, it was the only reason I bought the prime.
Keyboard+Battery+USB+Full size SD, Worth the $150 for me.
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For me, it was the only reason I bought the prime.
Keyboard+Battery+USB+Full size SD, Worth the $150 for me.
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Same here. I wouldn't buy a tablet that didn't have this functionality
I cant justify the cost of the dock. I got the tp mostly as a textbook reader and something to carry around the hospital where i work. Screen quality + thinness + good battery was most important for me.
Ironically I purchased a tablet so that I get less distracted and limit my typing speed so that I am forced to read. I have a 3.2lb ultraportable full voltage i5 Toshiba R835 laptop already with 8 hour battery, but I get too distracted because its just so fast and easy to use. I browse around aimlessly, so i have been using tablets to take away the bad habit. I cant switch between pdf book to webbrowser with 5+ tabs as easily and I cant chat too quickly so in the end I get smarter from these limitations.
I originally bought the TFP because of the dock to ween myself off of laptops.Ive had it almost three weeks now and am still trying to get hold of a KB...Guess what??..not sure I want one now..I love my Prime and have been very comfortable bed/couch/patio surfing etc..I am interested in gaming with a controller but not sure if thats worth the $150 now..
Dock is the only reason I'm buying Prime. I would not buy a tablet with weak WiFi, non-existent GPS and just 1GB RAM otherwise. I'm using it to replace my netbook that I mainly use for movies, internet browsing and casual note-taking. Battery life is also a huge factor to me in comparison to my current netbook.
I picked up the Prime mainly due to battery and dock. I needed something cover conventions such as E3 and CES without having to worry about plugging it in halfway through they day.. It's the reason I had the original one as well.
I"m debating on ordering one now too. But I mostly surf and game but it would be nice to be able to type faster with a dock when I'm on the forums. What I'm wondering if once docked will I be able to play games just as well or would it just get in the way?
I got the Prime because I could get a Dock for it. I like the Extra Battery and the USB port that the Dock offers
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Pulled the trigger then cancelled. Is it true that's it'll be too top heavy with the tablet docked? I usually use the tab on my lap or sitting on my abdominal area when laying down. There are times its on my bed when I'm sitting up so for the most part the screen will be tilted back a little. I think the dock will end up just getting in the way or annoying me since the entire thing will fall on its back a lot.
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110% worth it!!!
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Is it true that's it'll be too top heavy with the tablet docked?
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It' really isn't top-heavy to the point where it's impractical or falling over all the time. I spend a majority of my work day with it on my desk opened up in laptop form and the screen tilted back. There's enough weight in the dock to hold it down, and it still takes quite a bit of force to push it to make it fall over.
OK... i know here are already like 3 threads on why or why not to get a dock... but i dont think there is one witht he kind of perspective I can provide... since I did not want to get a dock in the first place... and I am even considering returning my prime cause some of the defects. Anyways, for starters... who is this writer (The Perspective)
I own a prime, with slight light bleed... I believe the wifi is kind of weak, I am concerned of the possible BT wifi dropout (yet have not tested), and am bummed that a possibly better transformer has already been announced.
I work on The IT field, use a very heavy laptop (alienware m17x) cause i am a gamer. I have had to work while on the road, a cruise ship, even at disneyworld (dont ask). I have had to sue my cellphone to do work as well. In fact, part of the android tablet allure is to help with work while on the road... yet again, i already got gadgets to help with that.
So why a transformer prime? Pure and simple.. processing power and games... end of story.
Anyways, i though the concept of the keyboard was dumb. Heck the Android onscreen keyboard is good enough. Why go get one?
Well, my first temptation was during a wordcamp meeting (is a web designer thing), where I saw a guy taking notes in a macbook air, and i tried to do the same on my tablet... and it was impractical. In fact, after 30 minuted f trying to take notes on a lecture, I gave up... i just could not keep up... and nope, even with swipe it sucked.
Then I though, damn, i bet the keyboard makes the tablet alsmost like a mac air... but for 150 bucks..damn!!!! But then came second temptation (the USB adapter for the prime is like 50 bucks, a good bt keyboard at least 35 bucks, a protective case is 35 and one of those charge it on the go enlarged batteries like 40 buck), so it was not such a bad deal.... besides i had something I had ore credit, so I only needed to shell out 40 buck... so I bit the bullet.And this is what I have learned.
Having the keyboard makes it really easy to do work with the prime. in fact typing this is ALOT easier. Having arrow keys too edit what I misspell is golden... just arrow back and edit. I bet with splashtop it will be awesome as well. And by the way, whne you blug a mouse on the USB port, web surfing is incredible... its really good to be finally be able to hover over a pop up menu and see the options!!!! and to just roll the mouse wheel to scroll down a page. And since the dock and tablet combo is so slim, i can see it coming with me on my next vacation.
NOW, dont take me wrong. I know that everything I have mentioned are exactly the reasons why you get a laptop... not a tablet! But lets be honest. I use my tablet while siting on the couch in the living room, or next to my bed, or to play games.... but if I ever decided to do real work with the tablet (trust me, my heavy laptop is not practical all the time or that, plus powering up, etc... takes forever)... the normal tablet form factor is lacking and that is the truth.
So I can see why I would in the end get a dock. In fact, I got one thinking that if i dont ike it,ill return it with my prime... and perhaps later the the t700 or else an ipad 3. But now, after the dock experience, I can say I dont think I would be happy with an ipad 3 if it had no dock. And in fact, now i am even struggling with the fact of returning my partially defective prime (light bleed, weak wifi, and useless gps). I know I only paid 40 bucks in the end (yet I could have spent the credit on something else). But if the dock is strong enough to make me EVEN consider not returning the prime...then there is something to be said about it.
I still do not know what I am going to do. All I know, that from a person who at first thought the DOCK was Junk, Now I think differently, and truly understand what the transformer was meant for... not to be just a good tablet, but something more.
Let the trolls roll in
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Having the keyboard makes it really easy to do work with the prime. in fact typing this is ALOT easier. Having arrow keys too edit what I misspell is golden... just arrow back and edit.
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How's this part working out for you?
j/k
A keyboard to go with your screen really is incredibly useful which is why there are so many 3rd party keyboard options for the iPad.
The fact that Asus makes one that nearly doubles battery life, adds a USB port & SD Card slot, protects the tablet screen when closed and acts like a stand when watching a movie is just incredible. I don't understand all the keyboard hate related to this device, if you don't want a keyboard don't buy one.
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OK... i know here are already like 3 threads on why or why not to get a dock... but i dont think there is one witht he kind of perspective I can provide... since I did not want to get a dock in the first place... and I am even considering returning my prime cause some of the defects. Anyways, for starters... who is this writer (The Perspective)
I own a prime, with slight light bleed... I believe the wifi is kind of weak, I am concerned of the possible BT wifi dropout (yet have not tested), and am bummed that a possibly better transformer has already been announced.
I work on The IT field, use a very heavy laptop (alienware m17x) cause i am a gamer. I have had to work while on the road, a cruise ship, even at disneyworld (dont ask). I have had to sue my cellphone to do work as well. In fact, part of the android tablet allure is to help with work while on the road... yet again, i already got gadgets to help with that.
So why a transformer prime? Pure and simple.. processing power and games... end of story.
Anyways, i though the concept of the keyboard was dumb. Heck the Android onscreen keyboard is good enough. Why go get one?
Well, my first temptation was during a wordcamp meeting (is a web designer thing), where I saw a guy taking notes in a macbook air, and i tried to do the same on my tablet... and it was impractical. In fact, after 30 minuted f trying to take notes on a lecture, I gave up... i just could not keep up... and nope, even with swipe it sucked.
Then I though, damn, i bet the keyboard makes the tablet alsmost like a mac air... but for 150 bucks..damn!!!! But then came second temptation (the USB adapter for the prime is like 50 bucks, a good bt keyboard at least 35 bucks, a protective case is 35 and one of those charge it on the go enlarged batteries like 40 buck), so it was not such a bad deal.... besides i had something I had ore credit, so I only needed to shell out 40 buck... so I bit the bullet.And this is what I have learned.
Having the keyboard makes it really easy to do work with the prime. in fact typing this is ALOT easier. Having arrow keys too edit what I misspell is golden... just arrow back and edit. I bet with splashtop it will be awesome as well. And by the way, whne you blug a mouse on the USB port, web surfing is incredible... its really good to be finally be able to hover over a pop up menu and see the options!!!! and to just roll the mouse wheel to scroll down a page. And since the dock and tablet combo is so slim, i can see it coming with me on my next vacation.
NOW, dont take me wrong. I know that everything I have mentioned are exactly the reasons why you get a laptop... not a tablet! But lets be honest. I use my tablet while siting on the couch in the living room, or next to my bed, or to play games.... but if I ever decided to do real work with the tablet (trust me, my heavy laptop is not practical all the time or that, plus powering up, etc... takes forever)... the normal tablet form factor is lacking and that is the truth.
So I can see why I would in the end get a dock. In fact, I got one thinking that if i dont ike it,ill return it with my prime... and perhaps later the the t700 or else an ipad 3. But now, after the dock experience, I can say I dont think I would be happy with an ipad 3 if it had no dock. And in fact, now i am even struggling with the fact of returning my partially defective prime (light bleed, weak wifi, and useless gps). I know I only paid 40 bucks in the end (yet I could have spent the credit on something else). But if the dock is strong enough to make me EVEN consider not returning the prime...then there is something to be said about it.
I still do not know what I am going to do. All I know, that from a person who at first thought the DOCK was Junk, Now I think differently, and truly understand what the transformer was meant for... not to be just a good tablet, but something more.
Let the trolls roll in
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Exactly I own a powerful gaming desktop and a really old heavy 17inch hp laptop which I would never bring to school ever.. I have wake on lan setup on my desktop and splashtop works wonderful (it will be better when splashtop thd is released) so I can access my desktop anywhere anytime and if I do not have Wifi I can tether with my HTC evo 4g (soon to be galaxy nexus)
These 3 devices will satisfy every need of mine
Desktop for gaming ect.
Prime for web browsing and more gaming /notes in school
Phone for tethering being lazy and texting!
3 devices work for me I was in the same boat I did not want the dock I originally bought it only to sell it on ebay for a profit but I was tempted and had to open it
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This is for the people Satisfied with their device. People that are happy with device. THE ones who were glad to make their purchase and would do it all over again. Basically for those with a more Positive outlook on life n doesn't let little things get to them
This thread will be an expansion of the Positive Transformer Thread going in a more detailed direction. I'm sure a majority of you, like myself are tired of all the complaint threads about what Prime doesn't do well or not at all. Soo.....
This thread is to list "What does work great on your Prime". Also how does Prime help you in day to day functionality? Like examples of the Prime being very useful or coming in handy in everyday scenarios. How do your friends, family, and peers react when showing off the power of Prime? What are some standout features on Prime? Positive stories n testimonials fully welcomed. All others will be Charbroiled! Lol
So you can see the direction this thread is trying to take. To expand on the great form factor and functionality of a device that works well for you. With so many issue threads, its time to expand on the flip side, the Majority side, that most here in Xda actually love their device and keeping it.
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There's more than enough complaint threads as there is. This is another way of letting new people know that things on the surface aren't always what it seems. There's a flip side to every story.
"EVERYTHING IS NOT AS GOOD AS IT SEEMS AND EVERYTHING NOT AS BAD AS IT SEEMS, SOMEWHERE IN-BETWEEN, REALITY FALLS" Remember that with anything in life
Update: We now have Official Bootloader Unlock Tool. More reason to be happy to own a Prime. Custom roms will be here b4 you know it!
Everything works on my prime except GPS. Serial # BC, still running .11 stock.
I sit at a computer all day for my job, so I really just wanted a device that I could plop into bed with to surf the web and watch videos. In that respect, the Prime is perfect. Web browsing is as fast or faster than my netbook, and I really like physically interacting with web pages - a touch interface is the way to browse the web, IMO.
Considering I have yet to use my prime while not laying in bed, functional GPS is obviously a non-issue for me. This is a good thing, since the GPS on mine is entirely broken.
My biggest concern was WiFi performance, but I have to say I've never noticed a problem. I sit fairly close to my router in my small studio apartment, so it's possible I've never gone far enough away from it to notice signal degradation. However, I can routinely achieve speeds of > 15Mb / 5Mb down/up anywhere in my apartment, which is more than sufficient for my means.
Gaming was another big selling point for me, and not much needs to be said about the Tegra 3. Thing is a beast. We all know Android doesn't even fully utilize that horsepower, so I'm pretty excited to see what the dev community comes up with after we unlock the BL
Finally, I love the form factor. The thinness and lightness of the TP astounds me every day. And signal attenuation aside, I love the spun aluminum case. It looks and feels premium, durable and high quality. I may be an Android fanboy, but I have to give Apple props for their solid build quality - now I have to give Asus props as well, because the TP is probably the prettiest piece of Kit I've seen in the Android world so far.
I've been very happy with my unit so far. I know I got lucky by avoiding many of the most serious problems - lockups and whatnot - but in many ways I'm impressed that ICS has as few problems as it does, what with being brand new and all that. In contrast, I had to engage in a much greater level of hackery with my Epic 4g to get it to a workable condition, and that was after Froyo had already been out for almost a year.
Picked up my C1-serial Prime end of January at BestBuy.
Mine basically has no usable GPS to speak of. It works outdoors for geo-location to about 50', but loses lock as fast as it gets it. Navigation is impossible. But, I knew that going in and didn't care that GPS might be problematic. I looked at it as a "value added feature that might not work". My box doesn't state GPS as a feature anyhow, so I can't complain too loud.
Beyond that, everything else is pure awesome. I have a 17" widescreen laptop that is more of a desktop replacement than a laptop, and it's definitely not that portable (The battery dies in about 90 minutes of use without being plugged in, even on the "power saving" setting in Win7) so having the prime for web surfing and reading on the couch or in bed is awesome.
I haven't come across a task that I couldn't perform on the Prime that I could on my laptop. Sure, some things are more difficult to accomplish on the tablet (Especially since I don't have the keyboard dock for it ... yet) but I could still do them in a pinch. I even used TurboTax online on it and managed to get my taxes done.
I like that Polaris Office is installed as well, as it gives a quick way to view MS office documents out of the box when needed. I usually just import them to my Google Docs, but if I'm even in a location without 'net access, it's nice to have something that works offline.
The other thing I REALLY appreciate is OTA updates. My Galaxy S phone never had that until I migrated to CM7, and I'm missing OTA horribly on it too since I moved to CM9. Not having to tether to keep it updated is pure awesome.
I can't say enough good things about this device.
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Everything works on my prime except GPS. Serial # BC, still running .11 stock.
I sit at a computer all day for my job, so I really just wanted a device that I could plop into bed with to surf the web and watch videos. In that respect, the Prime is perfect. Web browsing is as fast or faster than my netbook, and I really like physically interacting with web pages - a touch interface is the way to browse the web, IMO.
Considering I have yet to use my prime while not laying in bed, functional GPS is obviously a non-issue for me. This is a good thing, since the GPS on mine is entirely broken.
My biggest concern was WiFi performance, but I have to say I've never noticed a problem. I sit fairly close to my router in my small studio apartment, so it's possible I've never gone far enough away from it to notice signal degradation. However, I can routinely achieve speeds of > 15Mb / 5Mb down/up anywhere in my apartment, which is more than sufficient for my means.
Gaming was another big selling point for me, and not much needs to be said about the Tegra 3. Thing is a beast. We all know Android doesn't even fully utilize that horsepower, so I'm pretty excited to see what the dev community comes up with after we unlock the BL
Finally, I love the form factor. The thinness and lightness of the TP astounds me every day. And signal attenuation aside, I love the spun aluminum case. It looks and feels premium, durable and high quality. I may be an Android fanboy, but I have to give Apple props for their solid build quality - now I have to give Asus props as well, because the TP is probably the prettiest piece of Kit I've seen in the Android world so far.
I've been very happy with my unit so far. I know I got lucky by avoiding many of the most serious problems - lockups and whatnot - but in many ways I'm impressed that ICS has as few problems as it does, what with being brand new and all that. In contrast, I had to engage in a much greater level of hackery with my Epic 4g to get it to a workable condition, and that was after Froyo had already been out for almost a year.
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Yeah, Tegra3 is a beast.
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Picked up my C1-serial Prime end of January at BestBuy.
Mine basically has no usable GPS to speak of. It works outdoors for geo-location to about 50', but loses lock as fast as it gets it. Navigation is impossible. But, I knew that going in and didn't care that GPS might be problematic. I looked at it as a "value added feature that might not work". My box doesn't state GPS as a feature anyhow, so I can't complain too loud.
Beyond that, everything else is pure awesome. I have a 17" widescreen laptop that is more of a desktop replacement than a laptop, and it's definitely not that portable (The battery dies in about 90 minutes of use without being plugged in, even on the "power saving" setting in Win7) so having the prime for web surfing and reading on the couch or in bed is awesome.
I haven't come across a task that I couldn't perform on the Prime that I could on my laptop. Sure, some things are more difficult to accomplish on the tablet (Especially since I don't have the keyboard dock for it ... yet) but I could still do them in a pinch. I even used TurboTax online on it and managed to get my taxes done.
I like that Polaris Office is installed as well, as it gives a quick way to view MS office documents out of the box when needed. I usually just import them to my Google Docs, but if I'm even in a location without 'net access, it's nice to have something that works offline.
The other thing I REALLY appreciate is OTA updates. My Galaxy S phone never had that until I migrated to CM7, and I'm missing OTA horribly on it too since I moved to CM9. Not having to tether to keep it updated is pure awesome.
I can't say enough good things about this device.
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The constant OTA updates is a luxury we enjoy more compared to other makers or devices. We have seen more updates n a lil over a month compared to others in a whole year..lol. always good to have tthe latest firmware and drivers on device. It is good we have a way to roll back to a previous version if needed.
The battery life is great on Prime and will only get better as more updates roll out and custom roms arrive. Even overclocked prime gets good battery life. Plus like you said, there's nothing out there to really even make the Prime bust a sweat yet. So power of Tegra3 hasn't even been really tapped into yet. As far as these newer more powerful chips on the way, I'm not worried or pressed at all. As long as i have overclocking, we can easily match or surpass power of those chips.
The mobile scene may about to change up big time with the Announcement of Ubuntu Desktop OS being introduced into Android. Plus it will be officially supported and brings a true desktop experience to mobile devices. This might be the start of the home PC disappearing. Can't wait till we get this integrated into Prime. Its not even a hack. Ubuntu officially supporting Android and hopes this will integrated into 2012 and later mobile solutions. So Win8 better watch out. Android about to officially have Ubuntu desktop support and experience.
Some might say the constant updates are a symptom of a problem at Asus. I say they are a company trying their best to fix users problems.
I really don't believe there's some grand conspiracy going on.
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What i REALLY like on my Prime + dock:
- Great battery life
- keyboard very usable
- Fast
- I am able to print and scan on my Canon Pixma (using PrinterShare and Canon apps)
- Instant on (awesome)
- Bright and colorful screen
- Comes with some good useful apps (Backup, MyNet, Polaris, etc)
- Thin and lightweight
- Android ICS and Google Market (definitely not an iOS fan here)
- I can use my QNAP torrent with the QGET app
Unfortunately my unit has a bright spot on the LCD and I am sending it back to the store. Also has weak WiFi and BT+WiFi dropout. I don't need offline GPS.
Things that could be better on Prime:
- Speakers, trackpad must be disabled to avoid cursor jumps
Things that need improvement on Android:
- Chrome, Docs.
I love the screen on my prime. During bootup I can see a couple spots of light bleed but during any use it is completely invisible. The screen is bright and clear and just looks generally amazing. I have zero dead or stuck pixels, no bright spots or any discernable defect whatsoever when using it.
I love its abilities to play video, it has chewed up and swallowed absolutely everything I have thrown at it so far including 14gb 1080p move files without a single problem.
I love its portability and take it with me to the university and use it all the time. Locks onto wifi without a hitch in the multitude of places I use it there. With it and the dock it is very useful for SSH into the universities Linux system to do some light Java and c programming in VI. I do wish there was an eclipse ide available for android and cannot wait for it to be available.
I also love to use its Bluetooth abilities to sync up my PlayStation controllers and play all my favorite oldschool games through its amazing ability to run many emulators. It also plays new games built for android some of which have tegra 3 specific versions and simply look amazing.
Lastly, I love how fast I can type on a screen holding it in portrait view and using thumb keyboard. The touchscreen is extremely responsive and I can type long posts, such as this very one, with speed and ease.
There are many other things use it for that i cannot recall from my very taxed brain at the moment but it goes without saying that I have no need for a laptop since I can carry this around and easily vnc into my home desktop Linux for any heavy lifting and use dropbox to easily get to any powerpoints or documents I may need on the go.
One last thing, its pure contentment for me to lay back on the couch while the wife does her thing and I can sit and browse the web with ease using boat browser. Never have I had a more satisfying way to consume the ol www.
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I love the screen on my prime. During bootup I can see a couple spots of light bleed but during any use it is completely invisible. The screen is bright and clear and just looks generally amazing. I have zero dead or stuck pixels, no bright spots or any discernable defect whatsoever when using it.
I love its abilities to play video, it has chewed up and swallowed absolutely everything I have thrown at it so far including 14gb 1080p move files without a single problem.
I love its portability and take it with me to the university and use it all the time. Locks onto wifi without a hitch in the multitude of places I use it there. With it and the dock it is very useful for SSH into the universities Linux system to do some light Java and c programming in VI. I do wish there was an eclipse ide available for android and cannot wait for it to be available.
I also love to use its Bluetooth abilities to sync up my PlayStation controllers and play all my favorite oldschool games through its amazing ability to run many emulators. It also plays new games built for android some of which have tegra 3 specific versions and simply look amazing.
Lastly, I love how fast I can type on a screen holding it in portrait view and using thumb keyboard. The touchscreen is extremely responsive and I can type long posts, such as this very one, with speed and ease.
There are many other things use it for that i cannot recall from my very taxed brain at the moment but it goes without saying that I have no need for a laptop since I can carry this around and easily vnc into my home desktop Linux for any heavy lifting and use dropbox to easily get to any powerpoints or documents I may need on the go.
One last thing, its pure contentment for me to lay back on the couch while the wife does her thing and I can sit and browse the web with ease using boat browser. Never have I had a more satisfying way to consume the ol www.
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What I love about my TP...
Screen > clear, sharp and very bright
Battery > Outstanding especially when you combine it with the dock
Design > clean, light and sturdy. I love the choice of colors
ICS > runs smoth and quick... the only issue so far after upgrading to ICS is the flickering screen
GPS/Wifi > Works very well and consistent... I don't understand all the hoopla surrounding the issues with GPS... if I really need to use GPS I use my Thunderbolt
Apps > Polaris Office, Backup, Cloud
My TP is like my Amex... I don't leave home without it!
I really hope Gary and Asus can fix the flickering screen issue
Well, I've had my Prime since 12/21/11, and to this day I have no complaints. In fact, I look back on the HC days and realize how killer this thing runs on ICS. Good support from Asus with consistent updates too.
Tegra3: Lag? Never heard of it. Impressive graphics, what more could you want from a tablet.
Screen: IPS+ is great, even in the sunlight (much better than I expected!) and is not fatiguing after extended use. I personally leave it on IPS+ mode with Auto Brightness and it's perfect.
Form Factor: This thing is so well conceived and executed. Quality build, everything just fits so well, especially with the dock.
Connectivity: Especially with the dock, having the USB and SD. HDMI out has turned out to be a better alternative than the built in USB on my TV, better image and sound quality.
Is it perfect? Maybe not, but as close as I could have really hoped. The things that matter to me are: 1) Highly useful day in and day out; 2) I enjoy using it day in and day out.
I was one of the lucky guys getting a solid TP since day 1, I honestly don't have complaints, this is a wonderful piece of technology in every aspect, it has everything I wanted on a tablet. The GPS isn't great yes, only performs outdoors, but hey, I don't really care, as I only used it to test for feedback here on XDA, I own a specialized navigation device for my car and a smartphone when walking in case I need, therefore, I don't need a tablet for such tasks. I wanted a Prime for other things, email, notes, video, surfing and most of all, a portable yet powerful machine to carry around. The flexibility is incredible and the battery life ridiculous, please name a device on the market with this characteristics?! Yep, the TP is unique, enough said...
Cheers
Another happy camper. I have not had any problems with my prime at all. I've used it 60' from my router with BT enabled and disabled. Made no difference.
It works great for me, no matter where I take it as long as there is a wifi signal.
I just wish my keyboard dock would show up after being on backorder for over two months.
I use my Prime mainly for watching worldwide cams, listening to radio/police scanners in my local area, reading emails, cloud printing, drop box, remote access to my PC and other client PC's.
I wouldn't trade this Tablet for any other available on the market at this time. I love it. It's fast, great resolution, handles every app that I've thrown at it. I'll hang onto it until ASUS comes out with a 6 or 8 core Tablet.
I love my TF PRime!
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This is for the people Satisfied with their device. People that are happy with device.
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I have my prime since the 4th of January, and just recently found a dock in stock. Mine is one of the early BCO* machines. (BCOKAS005) but works like a charm. No screen bleed through, the speakers after rooting and applying the help here are far better.
First, I absolutely love ICS and the ASUS' screen quality. It's outstanding! The GPS on my unit has the usual issues, but why would I want to lug around a tablet for GPS! I also looked at is a value-added feature. It works, good. It doesn't, that's fine too.
What astounds me is the sleek design of the slate. I have mine Docked most of the time and love the "netbook" look. It's the center of conversation whenever people come by.
I've used it as a VNC client and server. I ran FTP servers, IRC clients, even a bittorrent client. I absolutely love it's ability to not only stream from DLNA, but actually run as a DLNA server. There's so much this little piece of kit can do, and so elegantly, it daily points out to me just how far personal computers have come from their humble beginnings in the late 70s.
I LOVE MY PRIME. If I was to change something, I would get the 64gig model, but I spent a few minutes moving large media files to microSD and USB connected drive, and have much more memory for software.
Long posts like this one would be difficult using the virtual keyboard. I touch type and the base's keyboard, even though it's chicklet is more than enough to type well.
This slate was a gift from my wife. I bought the dock; and have been loving my little netbook ever since
I love my Prime, like no other
I love my Prime, like no otherself, really. I use it CONSTANTLY, pretty much most of the day at work (I had to justify the cost by doing SOME work with the thing) I basically take all my meeting notes with it, and I have all my company appointments come through using Google Sync to Outlook on my desktop.
Thank God for ICS we use a Cisco VPN solutionat work, and on Honeycomb, getting a VPN connections was never gonna happen. I knew the solution was in ICS, so I was super happy that Asus got it out even earlier than scheduled.
I do get pissed about GPS, and will never let Asus off the hook for that screw up, but that does not negate the fact that My Prime is a stellar device. I take it down to breakfast at work and read news (News 360, News Republic, Pulse, PressReader, USA Today and Google Currents. That enough NEWS for ya?
The only current issues are that .15 blew away whatever GPS I had (it comes and goes with these frequent updates.) While that makes me a bit grumpy, as I don't have any major issues, it's a necessary evil, as Asus busts their collective butt to fix the serious issues that affect some users. These are almost a "rite of passage" for the first Tegra 3 Tablet in existence.
The other issue I see is stuttering/freezing on Riptide and Shire Runner. I am still trying to get a fix for that. Best I can do is reboot just before playing as a workaround for the present.
Why mention these things in a "What works great on your Prime" thread? Easy one. BALANCE.
It's not all a bowl of cherries running at the bleeding edge, sometimes the teething pains are quite dreadful, but a small price to pay to "boldly go where no tablet has gone before".
And no stealing my slogan there, Demandarin! Excuse me while I go see about rolling back to .14. Maybe. I have to decide on that still.
SmartAs$Phone said:
I love my Prime, like no otherself, really. I use it CONSTANTLY, pretty much most of the day at work (I had to justify the cost by doing SOME work with the thing) I basically take all my meeting notes with it, and I have all my company appointments come through using Google Sync to Outlook on my desktop.
Thank God for ICS we use a Cisco VPN solutionat work, and on Honeycomb, getting a VPN connections was never gonna happen. I knew the solution was in ICS, so I was super happy that Asus got it out even earlier than scheduled.
I do get pissed about GPS, and will never let Asus off the hook for that screw up, but that does not negate the fact that My Prime is a stellar device. I take it down to breakfast at work and read news (News 360, News Republic, Pulse, PressReader, USA Today and Google Currents. That enough NEWS for ya?
The only current issues are that .15 blew away whatever GPS I had (it comes and goes with these frequent updates.) While that makes me a bit grumpy, as I don't have any major issues, it's a necessary evil, as Asus busts their collective butt to fix the serious issues that affect some users. These are almost a "rite of passage" for the first Tegra 3 Tablet in existence.
The other issue I see is stuttering/freezing on Riptide and Shire Runner. I am still trying to get a fix for that. Best I can do is reboot just before playing as a workaround for the present.
Why mention these things in a "What works great on your Prime" thread? Easy one. BALANCE.
It's not all a bowl of cherries running at the bleeding edge, sometimes the teething pains are quite dreadful, but a small price to pay to "boldly go where no tablet has gone before".
And no stealing my slogan there, Demandarin! Excuse me while I go see about rolling back to .14. Maybe. I have to decide on that still.
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Good post. Last part made me grin..lol.
I think you should just stay on .15. The stuttering in games not caused by update. I had that happen randomly even on honeycomb and early ICS builds. Not sure what exactly causes it. I know once it goes away or I get it to go away, it usually doesn't come back. I had same deal happen with 9mm game. As soon as i started up the stage, I could play for a few seconds then screen/game would stutter n start flashing. Happened several times in a row. I was about to give up on it but tried a few things first. First I made sure I had no b.s. apps or anything running. To make sure game had as much ram as possible to run with. Then I rebooted the tablet. Issue went away and has been good ever since. Even beat the game. Similar thing happened with my shadlwgun THd that came with prime, since I bought it at Gamestop. I could play for a while then game would stutter n freeze. I just exited out the game completely then relaunched it and everything was well. All my games play very good now n i have alot of them.
Have most of all the heavy duty, good graphics games. Like 9mm, Asphault6 HD, Dead space, Madden 2012, new sonic(not b.s. sonic cd..lol), Sprinkle, Backstab HD, Samurai 2 vengeance, Shine runner THD, Riptide GP THD, air attack HD, Grabitron, Osmosis HD, Sentinel, Neo Geo emulator, PlayStation emulator, Snes emulator, genesis/Sega master system emulator, OnLive....and lotz more...lol
Gaming is a blast on this device. I have the iControlPad a bluetooth gamepad for mobile devices. Works beautifully, and the popular emulators work just 100% perfect on the tegra3 while having great battery life.
I can even output it to a TV and play all those great classics like FF7, Zelda OOT, Tony Hawk 2, Starfox in HD.
Also i think point and click adventures are perfect for a touchscreen device. I hope devs see this as well and release lots of them to the market
My wife and i really love to play stuff toghether cuddled up on the couch, and adventures are the perfect games for that.
Browsing of course is superb and i like it even more than on a regular PC.
And its just something else to watch movies wherever i want. I mean yeah i could hook up a laptop to my TV before, but ah its always a hassle. Then the battery runs out after you're half way through, you need to look for a cable, then the cable is not long enough etcetc. Having the screen just in your hands, is something else.
Oh btw i dont have any issues so far. GPS works as i expected - gets a lock everytime but wont be usable for navigation. Wifi is strong all over my place.
Oh and a little bonus - my electric bill is cheaper because i dont use my PC all that much anymore
And when i'm using the prime it feels like the future has arrived. If you know what i mean
Most of you probably don't recognize my name because I only posted while we were waiting for the release of the Prime.
I generally don't post because almost everything I would post about already has a thread. And we all know how congested this forum is with useless posts.
This time I was prompted to post because I wanted to share a nice experience I had, albeit small compared to what others have posted in this thread.
This morning I spent two hours playing Riptide GP. I usually play this on balanced mode, but today I forgot to change the setting and it was in power saver mode as I played. To my surprise the game functioned great, even in power save mode! I played for a good two hours straight and I took less than 20% of my battery.
Like I said this is a small thing but as I use my Prime more and more I am realizing just how premium this device is. I'm soooo happy with my purchase.
Dock is on its way to me is a couple if weeks! Icing on the cake at that point.
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Most of you probably don't recognize my name because I only posted while we were waiting for the release of the Prime.
I generally don't post because almost everything I would post about already has a thread. And we all know how congested this forum is with useless posts.
This time I was prompted to post because I wanted to share a nice experience I had, albeit small compared to what others have posted in this thread.
This morning I spent two hours playing Riptide GP. I usually play this on balanced mode, but today I forgot to change the setting and it was in power saver mode as I played. To my surprise the game functioned great, even in power save mode! I played for a good two hours straight and I took less than 20% of my battery.
Like I said this is a small thing but as I use my Prime more and more I am realizing just how premium this device is. I'm soooo happy with my purchase.
Dock is on its way to me is a couple if weeks! Icing on the cake at that point.
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I recognize the name but yes, games play great on prime in power savings mode also. I think I remember seeing that the power settings doesn't exactly apply 100% to playing games or watching movies. The processor will scale as needed to push the games. That's why you played game with no issue on power savings mode. Also why you can throw any type of HD movie at prime and it'll play fine even on lowest power setting. I've seen it actually recommended to play movies in that mode for the longest battery life.
No experience is too big or too small. Glad this thread made you come out and post on the experience. We need more positivity or good experiences being let known to others. Lots of people tend to think its just issues surrounding this device. Which is far from the truth. We have this thread and the Positive transformer thread to show the flip side to this madness.
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I recognize the name but yes, games play great on prime in power savings mode also. I think I remember seeing that the power settings doesn't exactly apply 100% to playing games or watching movies. The processor will scale as needed to push the games. That's why you played game with no issue on power savings mode. Also why you can throw any type of HD movie at prime and it'll play fine even on lowest power setting. I've seen it actually recommended to play movies in that mode for the longest battery life.
No experience is too big or too small. Glad this thread made you come out and post on the experience. We need more positivity or good experiences being let known to others. Lots of people tend to think its just issues surrounding this device. Which is far from the truth. We have this thread and the Positive transformer thread to show the flip side to this madness.
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Oh yeah I remember reading about that as well, regarding the scaling when gaming. More important was the battery life it took while playing. Impressed that it didn't suck away more.
I'm one of the very pleased with this Prime who doesn't post much but reads almost everything here. I'm annoyed that GPS doesn't work and principally I think Asus should be accountable for this. With that being said, at no time have I ever considered returning my Prime. This thing blows away anything out there.
I wish it were bigger..
My primary goal for a tablet is to read technical PDFs and its just a tiny bit
too small for my old eyes. close though and better then my ipad.
But that aside everything works great on this beast. My device never had
any wireless or gps issues. It can see as many gps satellites as my phone
does. Playing games is fabulous on it. I stream my media collection to it with
'emit'.
battery life is great with .14 and .15, no complaints at all with the thing.
Have noticed the occasion game stutter but only in "stupid zombies"
everything else even graphically intense games dont have the issue.
still need a jabber client that supports muc..
Serial BCOK - bought online at office depot mid January update .14
My biggest complaint is that the TFP has WiFi connectivity issues. I go to the university and there are areas where other android tablets and the iPad have signal allowing people to use the internet and mine simply refuses to connect or has random slow connections.