Would it be possible simply to hook a usb stick up to the Titan via micro usb? I mean yeah it could potentially get in the way, but the way I see it is just buying an extended battery that hopefully has a rather large cover or even a plain jane case and cutting a chunk out for the usb to lay in. Simply plug it in when you're in need for your rather mediocre tunes and videos and BAM all the storage you want. Is something like this possible? Would the phone be able to sense that there is extra storage?
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Would it be possible simply to hook a usb stick up to the Titan via micro usb? I mean yeah it could potentially get in the way, but the way I see it is just buying an extended battery that hopefully has a rather large cover or even a plain jane case and cutting a chunk out for the usb to lay in. Simply plug it in when you're in need for your rather mediocre tunes and videos and BAM all the storage you want. Is something like this possible? Would the phone be able to sense that there is extra storage?
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That would need the heck out of work to hack the ROM to get the driver in.
There is no way (nearly impossible) to do this with Official ROM, because this haven't done ever before.
D'awwwwwwww. Are there other methods you know of or expanding a phones storage without using the sim card? I'm in love with the titan, but I need more that 12gb of space.
jayben said:
D'awwwwwwww. Are there other methods you know of or expanding a phones storage without using the sim card? I'm in love with the titan, but I need more that 12gb of space.
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Tell me about it, I am going from 40gig on my focus to 12, I am really cleaning house and putting the items that I do not use as mush up on your sky drive.
I'm so torn. I love the giant screen, build quality, and wp7, but I can't live with only 12gb. aaahhhhh
jayben said:
I'm so torn. I love the giant screen, build quality, and wp7, but I can't live with only 12gb. aaahhhhh
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Use the cloud.
Touche. I like having all of my stuff right on my device. I hate depending on AT&T and their towers.
The cloud is neither an ideal solution nor salvation..
I would assume there is an app on the marketplace that can both uploading and download what I want from the cloud. Is there such a thing?
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Ok, I just ordered a 32GB USB Flash Drive.
Some people report that the Athena recognizes some flash drives so I was thinking...why not remove the MD and take apart the 32GB flash drive and put it inside the Athena. Then solder the USB pins together internally so the USB drive is always connected internally to the device?
I haven't really put serious thought into this but wanted to run it past everyone and those hardware experts to see what every ways.
I have yet to look up the MD power requirements and compare those to the USB power requirements. Either way, if it's recognized it could mean a real upgrade to the device and we could always write a simple program to enable/disable the USB drive if power consumption is too great.
Your thoughts people on this?
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After further thinking I see four obvious obstacles:
- Stripping down the 32GB USB drive so it fits in the device in place of the MD. I'm hoping this isn't that big of an issue but then again I have no idea what i'm talking about. LOL
- 1 have to make sure the Athena recognizes the 32GB USB drive.
- Power Consumption as mentioned above, which might be overcome by utilizing a utility of some sort.
- Since the Athena requires the USB Host cable/adapter to make things like this work, there might need to be some type of mod internally to make this happen. I talking to someone with more knowledge of USB pin outs might help in this area.
-- EDIT: Olipro mentioned that this is most likely a non-issue. That the USB adapter just makes the USB connection a large one so the internal wiring I'm thinking about shouldn't be a problem. This is great news. One obstacle out of the way. Don't you love progress!
ltxda said:
Ok, I just ordered a 32GB USB Flash Drive.
Some people report that the Athena recognizes some flash drives so I was thinking...why not remove the MD and take apart the 32GB flash drive and put it inside the Athena. Then solder the USB pins together internally so the USB drive is always connected internally to the device?
I haven't really put serious thought into this but wanted to run it past everyone and those hardware experts to see what every ways.
I have yet to look up the MD power requirements and compare those to the USB power requirements. Either way, if it's recognized it could mean a real upgrade to the device and we could always write a simple program to enable/disable the USB drive if power consumption is too great.
Your thoughts people on this?
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After further thinking I see four obvious obstacles:
- Stripping down the 32GB USB drive so it fits in the device in place of the MD. I'm hoping this isn't that big of an issue but then again I have no idea what i'm talking about. LOL
- 1 have to make sure the Athena recognizes the 32GB USB drive.
- Power Consumption as mentioned above, which might be overcome by utilizing a utility of some sort.
- Since the Athena requires the USB Host cable/adapter to make things like this work, there might need to be some type of mod internally to make this happen. I talking to someone with more knowledge of USB pin outs might help in this area.
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hehe u know im always behind ur crazy ideas. lets get this to work!
possible incompatibilities of it not detecting the microdrive but should be able to be fixed by software
possibly will need to integrate usb host controller chip and wires inside as well
make sure not to screw up the charger either =p
but other than that it sounds good
Hi, for information: Athena Servicemanual says you need 3 things to replace if you disassemble your device (On-Off Key, CommManager Key and some rubbers).
So if you really get the USB-Flash running then you'll get problems putting everything together again.
I think you'll get errors because the G-Sensor doesn't detect any Microdrive. (maybe freeze or reset or some other issues?). Maybe you have to shorten the G-Sensor somehow. This will need people who own the original plan of the device and also know how to get information out of it.
But great idea!
Ok, just found out that the host adapter just changes the plug to a larger USB plug. So the wiring should be a piece of cake. Let's keep this going...before you know it the team won't have only brought you a great ROM but also provide a way to have a 32GB Athena and storage you no longer have to worry about and with no moving parts!!!
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Hi, for information: Athena Servicemanual says you need 3 things to replace if you disassemble your device (On-Off Key, CommManager Key and some rubbers).
So if you really get the USB-Flash running then you'll get problems putting everything together again.
I think you'll get errors because the G-Sensor doesn't detect any Microdrive. (maybe freeze or reset or some other issues?). Maybe you have to shorten the G-Sensor somehow. This will need people who own the original plan of the device and also know how to get information out of it.
But great idea!
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Thanks for your feedback. I also think this may work and if not with the drive I've ordered with some other USB. I've seen USB devices as small is a dime so this should work. I'll be happy to purchase a bunch of USB drives to see which work. I probably would like anyone with an Athena and a USB drive to test what they have and post the results.
For the record I ordered a Corsair Survivor 32GB USB Flash Drive model CMFUSBSRVR-32GB.
I think there was a group of people(I couldn't remember who exactly) who already dismantled their athena when it came out to see which micro drives in the market is compatible with the one installed in the athena. I suggest we find the post first before and read through their findings. There might be something there that may help with this project.
If I remember it correctly, there was even a host of pictures and instructions in dismantling the Athena.
I just couldn't remember other details because I was just browsing around and never thought of owning an athena.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303188
Something I found about USB Drives and the Athena
Wikipedia claims microdrives use more power then flash drives:
"consume more power than flash memory (on the order of 190mA, peak 310mA, at 3.3V) "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microdrive
Good luck to you this would be cool.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298987
HDs that work with the athena
What about a 72GB solid state drive?
http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/07/hands-on-with-sandisks-72gb-ssd-and-friends/
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What about a 72GB solid state drive?
http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/07/hands-on-with-sandisks-72gb-ssd-and-friends/
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Let`s keep this a short term, realistic and affordable goal. ;-p
USB storage is cheap, easily modified, compatible as it`s already recognized by the device both by the software and USB host capabilities of the device board, etc. Also, those drives aren`t yet available and I doubt people will want to spend over $800usd on them for Athena. No?
Well, IMHO there's two alternatives for such a modification:
1 - either use the ATA connection of the micro-drive with the 32 GB pendrive. Adapters exist, wiring should be tricky due to the size requirements (everything has to fit into the space usually used by the micro-drive);
2 - connect permanently the 32 GB USB pen-drive to the USB port. Removal of the micro-drive is in that case optional, maybe in order to make room.
The problem with the second option is that I am pretty sure this will screw-up USB slave connections, and more specifically ActiveSync. Altough, true, one can Sync through Bluetooth.
Two problems with the first alternative:
- G-Sensor, without a md, will no work anymore. BUT it can be disabled in a software manner, so that's no big issue aside from the fact that we won't be able to "tilt'n scroll";
- finding a compatible USB / ATA adapter (those are known to be... "capricious").
I find the first alternative much sexier, personnally... And it DOES get me thinking.
Why not just use one of theose new 16 or 32GB MicroSD/Transflash, or whatever the hell there called cards, just released at CES.. It would save ya
lots of work, and you wouldn't have to crack the Advantage open.
Yep, that's also being discussed on the forum.
But I do agree that having solid-state 32 GB instead of mechanical 8 GB in my Athena would suit me just fine.
Jointly with a 32 GB SDHC card, of course.
:-D lol
I currently have the 8GB SDHC....of course I'm going to buy the 16 and then the 32 as soon as they come out and I can get my hands on it...but my goal here is to replace the MD. After thinking it through even further, we could even setup an internal type of mechanism so as USB drives become larger and cheaper, we could just pop out the old and pop in the new thus continuing to increase the internal storage of our devices.
Maybe I'm just dreaming but replacing the MD seems to be a goal that we can achieve quickly and cost effectively. We've had the discussion of getting larger MD's...but always ran into obstacles we probably couldn't overcome. They are releasing large SSD's but we may have to mod the internal connection, etc. With the USB idea, the connection exists, compatibility is there, and it's very feasible. I'm just excited. LOL
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Well, IMHO there's two alternatives for such a modification:
1 - either use the ATA connection of the micro-drive with the 32 GB pendrive. Adapters exist, wiring should be tricky due to the size requirements (everything has to fit into the space usually used by the micro-drive);
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I'm thinking more simplistic. Take out the MD and dock it connect to. This frees up some space. Strip down USB drive as much as possible and hope that it fits some way into the device. If it fits, we can mount it in there in a number of ways. Solder 4 wires from USB drive to USB host interface on the board. Write some software to control (activate/deactivate aka mount/dismount) the USB drive and see how it goes.
2 - connect permanently the 32 GB USB pen-drive to the USB port. Removal of the micro-drive is in that case optional, maybe in order to make room.
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Not sure what you mean exactly but...I want the USB drive to be internal. Of course I could get some velcro and stick a 32GB USB drive to the back of my Athena, etc...but that would just be ugly.
You also need the USB host cable to do this unless you want to solder wires and run them from the outside of the device to the inside USB host pins. Let me know if I got the wrong picture here.
The problem with the second option is that I am pretty sure this will screw-up USB slave connections, and more specifically ActiveSync. Altough, true, one can Sync through Bluetooth.
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You bring up a very good point. I'm going to have to take my 4-in-1 cable and try to run a small USB drive while trying to ActiveSync. I wonder if that will still work. If it fails, the mod I'm proposing may cause a problem with ActiveSync connections. Anyone else have comments and/or ideas on this?
Two problems with the first alternative:
- G-Sensor, without a md, will no work anymore. BUT it can be disabled in a software manner, so that's no big issue aside from the fact that we won't be able to "tilt'n scroll";
- finding a compatible USB / ATA adapter (those are known to be... "capricious").
I find the first alternative much sexier, personnally... And it DOES get me thinking.
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I'm hoping we can do it without any adapters. Just straight soldering of the 4 USB wires needed to communicate. Should suffice. I found that I don't really use nor need the G-Sensor on the MD. For sure can be disabled in the ROM. The Athena Project team would just have to make a Special Edition ROM for those that do the mod.
I posted a few weeks ago about a SSD that Intel will be releasing soon. I believe it will be a drop-in replacement for the existing drive.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=352834
techntrek said:
I posted a few weeks ago about a SSD that Intel will be releasing soon. I believe it will be a drop-in replacement for the existing drive.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=352834
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I actually read that thread a little while ago. Do you know when it will be released and how fast they will get up to larger drives like 8, 16, 32, etc. GB's?
ia ctually dont think you will run into active sync problems...
reason being i remember a special cable that came with my friends hermes that split the usb port into two
one for charging and one for syncing...
so i think if we disable the flash drive when syncing it should be fine
I know the Titan doesn't support USB Host mode, but I've heard there were alternatives like using CF Cards or something. Can anyone give me more details or point me in the direction of how to achieve this? Instead of buying a microSD card, I wouldn't mind just using one of my external HD to hold my stuff. It would be cool to read data off of flashdrives too.
I've never heard mention of any possibilities of USB host on the mogul. If someone does make a USB host CF card (never heard of one), I don't think you're going to find any way to interface it with the mogul. And the mogul probably wouldn't be able to power an external hdd, so you'd have to have a power supply and be tethered to the wall. At that point, you might as well carry a laptop around and store things on it, and just forget about USB host on the mogul.
If I had to guess I think you would see a Bluetooth harddrive before you saw anything like that.
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If I had to guess I think you would see a Bluetooth harddrive before you saw anything like that.
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That is already on the way...
http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/products/consumer_electronics/DAVE/
theoretically it could be done with MicroSDIO, but i dont know if the mogul supports SDIO
plus i doubt anyone will make a USB controller in an MicroSDIO card, lol
wow that bluetooth harddrive looks promising, but the speed must suck :/. yea using a laptop would work, but its still too big and uses a lot more power. i had this idea, run mobiletorrent on the phone attached to a harddrive. it would use less power and its still smaller than a laptop.
How much storeage do you need?
I looked at the bluetooth drive also and it looks cool, and probably slow since i think bluetooth is ~700kbps, sort of like the speed you get beaming from one to another with bluetooth, which I do to and from my laptop now and it is kind of creepy slow. If you need more than the 8gigs that a microSD can do for now then that might be the way,,,,,,wait,,,,I remember seeing a shared WiFi drive some place, that would be lots faster i bet.
hi
htc flyer can support micro sd 64gb?!
I think all 64 gb micro SD are sdxc and I think the flyer only supports up to 32gb sdhc.
That is correct in theory, however it appears that most devices that state mini-SDHC (32GB max) compatibility work with SDXC, so it might be worth a try.
Wish I had one to try
I try mini sd 32gb and work in flyer.
any body try 64gb on flyer ?!
I wouldn't think so but you never know until you try it I guess. You might try reading here before purchasing one though - http://www.androidcentral.com/sandisk-announces-64gb-microsdxc-card-dont-get-too-excited
Sent from my HTC Flyer.
Thanks
I think micro sd 64gb not work with flyer.
anyway ... if anybody try this ... plz comment here.
I think if you have that many videos that you actually want to keep you have more serious issues..............
DigitalMD said:
I think if you have that many videos that you actually want to keep you have more serious issues..............
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Lol, I have more music that that never mind videos and audiobooks. Pretty sure by the way she described here usage butterflygirl could easily fill one too.
Yes it's too much to listen to all together, but you can never tell in advance what you'll be in the mood for.
Yeah you are right, I have a music collection that's over 25 Gb, but I pared it down to 16 Gb for travel because there other stuff I will never listen to.
I have the best part of half a terrabyte of music. That is WAY more than anyone could feasibly listen to even on a very long trip for sure but I have a tendency to listen to a track or two from an album at random and move on, so it's hard to pare it down properly. If I could use OTG it would solve any problems but for now I make a day-by-day decision what to transfer from the Cloud/PC and have a few 32GB SD cards so it's no really a big deal anyway.
@globatron
Yep, butterflygirl could fill up that space. I have 12gb of manga alone....
Contest!!!
Let's see who can fill up the most space on their Flyer!
Ready, Go!
I'm surprised no one has pressed on USB host. I see random reports that people have it on their Flyer but so far no dedicated method for making it work.
DigitalMD said:
I'm surprised no one has pressed on USB host. I see random reports that people have it on their Flyer but so far no dedicated method for making it work.
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I will start playing with usb host when I have Honeycomb. If I don't see HC soon in US, then I will probably try globatron's method.
DigitalMD said:
I'm surprised no one has pressed on USB host. I see random reports that people have it on their Flyer but so far no dedicated method for making it work.
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Easy with source, just compile the module. I'm seeing nothing at all on the usb bus when I try with HC and I'm not bothered enough to blind port it.
globatron said:
Easy with source, just compile the module. I'm seeing nothing at all on the usb bus when I try with HC and I'm not bothered enough to blind port it.
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As near as I can tell (with my limited ability) USB host seems to be working on the RC of HoneyComb (as used in FlyHoney) but, is not working on the final release.
I'll pop Nicki a note and see if he compiled something or if it was in the beta base. If he has things set up to compile the module it should be pretty simple to get this up and running.
Any word from Nicki on USB host?
Forgot to ask when the source landed, it is there...just seems the HTC have taken strange interpretation of the OTG standard. I was fiddling at it a bit yesterday and I can get it to go into OTG mode but it doesn't detect any attached device.
Hey guys,
I did a search but didn't find a relevant thread to the One m7. The lack of SD card slot is a little concerning to me. As long as I can plug it in to my PC and it sees it as a "removable thumb drive" of sorts, I'll be fine without the SD card. Can anyone confirm this functionality? Or is it locked to crap like an iPhone?
Trying to decide between the One and S4. Not an easy decision by any means. I really like the One but I must be able to load custom ROMS and root/unlock bootloader.
Thanks
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Hey guys,
I did a search but didn't find a relevant thread to the One m7. The lack of SD card slot is a little concerning to me. As long as I can plug it in to my PC and it sees it as a "removable thumb drive" of sorts, I'll be fine without the SD card. Can anyone confirm this functionality? Or is it locked to crap like an iPhone?
Trying to decide between the One and S4. Not an easy decision by any means. I really like the One but I must be able to load custom ROMS and root/unlock bootloader.
Thanks
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Almost all if not all Android phones will show up as a drive when you plug them into a computer. The HTC One is no exception. It shows up. It also has USB OTG support so if you get a proper cable you can plug flash drives into it.
Awesome, thanks. I've had my EVO 3D since it came out, and it's been a pretty good phone but I'm due for an upgrade!
So, does the One show an "internal" SD card of sorts, is it a different partition? Just wondering if the process will be the same when booting into recovery to flash ZIPs and what not.
I don't understand how people can cram more than 25GB onto a phone. -_-
Well, I like to be able to use my phone as a removable thumb drive, and I also have Bluetooth in my Jeep and love streaming music from my phone that way. It works great. I have a sizable music collection and also like to keep software installs and other things handy (I work in IT) So the 64GB model is looking pretty good right now if I can still do all these things the same way I did before.
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I don't understand how people can cram more than 25GB onto a phone. -_-
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One word. FLAC
anit77 said:
One word. FLAC
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That's not a word, and is actually 4 words.
Free Lossless Audio Codec
Just sayin'.
tehdef said:
I don't understand how people can cram more than 25GB onto a phone. -_-
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Agreed, especially since I got Plex. Now I just stream all my movies and music, I've got all this free space!
Sent from my HTC One
tehdef said:
I don't understand how people can cram more than 25GB onto a phone. -_-
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Porn and Music
i cant understand ... whys it so hard to post in the correct section
Anyone knows why the HTC One doesn't work with DSLR Controller, via USB-OGT?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40288853&postcount=2410
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Awesome, thanks. I've had my EVO 3D since it came out, and it's been a pretty good phone but I'm due for an upgrade!
So, does the One show an "internal" SD card of sorts, is it a different partition? Just wondering if the process will be the same when booting into recovery to flash ZIPs and what not.
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It mounts as a single drive. In windows, it shows up as a Portable Device, HTC One, and it is just a drive. There is a separate partition for the HTC Sync Manager.
The first time I plugged it in, it needed to install the USB drivers. After installed, I had to reconnect it, and it mounted the drive.
Additionally, I did not have to change the USB settings, toggling between USB Drive, or charge, or sync. It just shows up. Somewhat different than what I'm used to on my Inspire, but works much smarter now.
Flash Drive Applications
doubled822 said:
Hey guys,
I did a search but didn't find a relevant thread to the One m7. The lack of SD card slot is a little concerning to me. As long as I can plug it in to my PC and it sees it as a "removable thumb drive" of sorts, I'll be fine without the SD card. Can anyone confirm this functionality? Or is it locked to crap like an iPhone?
Trying to decide between the One and S4. Not an easy decision by any means. I really like the One but I must be able to load custom ROMS and root/unlock bootloader.
Thanks
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We have very similar goals ... :highfive::highfive:
but want to have an un-secure partition for USB flash drive. I use this as a tablet so I need to have usb flash drive access.
Is there an app for that yet? Aside from doing all the grunt work of shelling into the root / moving directories by hand?
There must be a better way.
http://www.intomobile.com/2014/02/13/easiest-way-transfer-media-files-smartphonetablet-computer
The SanDisk Ultra Dual USB Drive comes with a regular USB port on one hand, and a microUSB one – on the other. So when you want to move some files from your mobile device, simply connect the SanDisk’s device to a microUSB port and copy all the photos and videos you want. Then, connect the same device using a regular USB port to a computer and make a local copy of those files.
I disagree. I don't think it's purpose is to move files between PC and phone. I think it's about having a pendrive that's also accessible via phone. Plus connecting the phone to YOUR computer is easy enough, but it's not that simple in libraries, airports, other people's houses etc. If I was using a pendrive I'd buy it. But I don't.
sanjsrik said:
http://www.intomobile.com/2014/02/13/easiest-way-transfer-media-files-smartphonetablet-computer
The SanDisk Ultra Dual USB Drive comes with a regular USB port on one hand, and a microUSB one – on the other. So when you want to move some files from your mobile device, simply connect the SanDisk’s device to a microUSB port and copy all the photos and videos you want. Then, connect the same device using a regular USB port to a computer and make a local copy of those files.
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I would its like the same as using a USB OTG cable but not having to have the cable
for the price, I'd rather just get a normal flash drive thats cheaper and use the otg cable. I already have one, and it's not really inconvenient.
If you have proper cables and don't mind carrying them, then this is kind of redundant, if you don't have cables, then this is as simple as it gets, albeit little more expensive. But frankly, I would never use it just to copy files to computer, the cable comes with phone for free and nothing beats dragging files with mouse from one drive to another on the computer. But if you want to backup your files or make room for new on the go, then I could see this as being useful.
I ask because you could use something like airdroid or something.
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Yeah, but that will only work if you have:
1. good signal
2. really unlimited data plan.
Personally I don't see reason to backup few small files, since you can get SD card for cheap and store it on the phone memory and SD card as backup. I'm talking for example about being on vacation and actually running out of memory due to picture and video taking, where you need to offload gigabytes of data, where good signal and unlimited data could be completely out of question. Actually I may be taking trip to China this summer and could be facing this particular issue for real and any cloud type solution is not going to work at all. On my home turf I have access to computers daily, so again cloud services are pretty much useless, even if I had unlimited data, which I don't. I know Google and others are trying to sell us on cloud storage solutions, instead of physical storage, but in certain situations above limitations can not be overcome.
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Yeah, but that will only work if you have:
1. good signal
2. really unlimited data plan.
Personally I don't see reason to backup few small files, since you can get SD card for cheap and store it on the phone memory and SD card as backup. I'm talking for example about being on vacation and actually running out of memory due to picture and video taking, where you need to offload gigabytes of data, where good signal and unlimited data could be completely out of question. Actually I may be taking trip to China this summer and could be facing this particular issue for real and any cloud type solution is not going to work at all. On my home turf I have access to computers daily, so again cloud services are pretty much useless, even if I had unlimited data, which I don't. I know Google and others are trying to sell us on cloud storage solutions, instead of physical storage, but in certain situations above limitations can not be overcome.
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I use airdroid about 4-5 times/day. I log in using the web interface and transfer files from my laptop to my device. If the device is sitting next to my laptop, how bad can the signal be?