Problems with backup after root - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Apparently, i've just rooted my phone using GingerBreak 1.2, and everything seems to be ok. However, i'm about to install CM7 on it, and i wanted a Nandroid backup (ClockworkMod ROM Manager, right?) of my original rom first. Seems like i'll have to install ClockworkMod Recovery first to be able to make a backup. Ok, let's go, but wait, something is wrong. Seems like the CWM doesn't gain root access, and can't continue. I've been looking for some permission controls in GingerBreak, but can't find anything like that. Why do i experience this?
Oh, BTW, this is on a LG Optimus Black...
EDIT: Never mind, i didn't get the timed question in the end of the process, lol.

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[Q] Clockwork recovery won't boot.

I gained root access through superoneclick gingerbreak. It gave me the superuser app and i downloaded rom manager but whenever i try to get to clockwork recovery mode it keeps going to samsung recovery. No matter how many times I hit re-install packages it goes back to the samsung recovery. What did I do wrong? Should I have gained root another way? Should I try to flash back to 2.1? Please help I'm so frustrated.
first off dont use gingerbreak. Just odin back to stock and then root by installing the update package twice and after twice ur recovery should turn blue to green.
here follow this, use the eclair root guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9375927
Rsuave419 said:
I gained root access through superoneclick gingerbreak. It gave me the superuser app and i downloaded rom manager but whenever i try to get to clockwork recovery mode it keeps going to samsung recovery. No matter how many times I hit re-install packages it goes back to the samsung recovery. What did I do wrong? Should I have gained root another way? Should I try to flash back to 2.1? Please help I'm so frustrated.
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no modded 3e recovery..so it will keep going to Stock recovery. You need to do what movie said or flash a voodoo kernel or flash a modded 3e recovery.
Interestingly enough I have the same problem, 100% rooted, super user access no issue, busy box installed, root manager installed.
I upgraded the 2.1 to 2.2 from the kies mini software.
I have been doing a ton of reading and would like to start flashing roms, etc etc.
Through titanium backup, I have un-installed a large mount of apps and have not suffered any problems as of yet, but would like to try some custom roms.
My question is, since I uninstalled alot of things, only apps that are bloatware, and since I can't get my clockwork recovery console to take affect, do I have to follow post #2?
Is this link the right one taken out of the link from post #2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1047087
Is this the final and correct link, since I do not store data on my phone, and all contacts are on my sim card, and really haven't done any customizations to anything really, can I just odin back and not back anything up? All I use my phone for is calls, txt's and internet, I don't bookmark anything, I don't save txts and call logs mean nothing to me?
I assume I will have to re-root my phone again and do the same procedures, etc etc.
Also as a side note, I am a minimalist type of person, that's why I use linux at home, no windows of any kind (I'll do this procedure at work). Any roms out there that can handle my needs of simply calls, txt'ing and internet without all the other stuff? I don't use GPS, I don't facebook or social network, I don't play games on my phone. I do need however, the use of the camera and video recorder.
Thanks.
I would just follow my advice and odin back to stock its really easy and safe to do. Well if the only apps u have left are bloatware and u dont save anything else i guess u wont need to back anything up before odin. Well the thing its alot easier to root 2.1 then 2.2.
Once ur at 2.1 just do the root process of installing update package twice and after twice ur recovery will turn from blue to green.
follow this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9375927
the eclair guide
heres the steps for download mode just in case:
power off phone
pull out battery
turn on odin
attach phone to pc with usb cable
now while holding down both volume buttons put battery back in.
now you should be in download mode and go back to stock with odin from here!
make sure u put the proper .pit and .pda file in there proper places on odin and ur set to go.
Enjoy and also make sure u have the proper samsung drivers
So, is this the right link from the guide you posted, it's amazing, I read so many things today that It's easy to get a little well, brain farty, ya know.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1047087
Also, I have the kies mini drivers installed, that's how I updated from 2.1 to 2.2 so I assume those will work fine?
BTW, this is the coolest community, props to all involved!!!
Now, I edited my post I think while you were replying, any rom suggestions for a simple user who likes minimal applications but just a well running phone that's not clogged to the gills with stuff?
good noob friendly rom is bionix 1.3.1!
movieaddict said:
good noob friendly rom is bionix 1.3.1!
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Yep, that seems to be the consensus, thank you
Guys,
A huge thanks, odin'd back to 2.1, rooted, removed the bloatware I didn't want, gonna make a nandroid back, then proceed on to bionix.
I can understand how first time users can get nervous but once done, the process really is not that hard, just takes patience and making sure everything is prep'd before doing so.
I hope I can now help others if you guys don't beat me to it first
My only question is this: when I create my nandroid backup, where does it go and do I need to save it somewhere just in case like a usb key or something along those lines or does it reside on the phone. Only asking cause I have not yet done this step
U can always make a extra backup and store them on ur ext sd
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Okay, so I assume the backup, made from rom manager "backup current rom" gets stored to the internal memory on the phone?
Any special settings or it just does it's thing, should be smaller than normal as I removed quite a bit of junk and stuff.
i did what you said and i still cant get into clockwork recovery screen! i went back to stock rom, reinstalled packages twice and i still have samsung recovery. i know i have root because i get the super user asking me to give clockwork root access!
So I assume you odin'd back to 2.1, rooted have installed titanimum backup and busy box, rom manager, tapped the flash clockworkmod recovery, then "reboot in recovery" choose update. I rebooted via the rom manager menu, not via the phone itself. I had to update twice immediately, didn't reboot and do it again. I saw it installing and it kinda hung, then used the volume down to update again, and was completed.
Also after installing titanium there was an update for super user, which I also installed as well. Did you do this? Not sure if it has any bearing but thought it was worth mentioning.
It worked seamlessly for me, I had to update twice, then purple turned to green and all is well.
Can you post your steps you took to get back to 2.1, how you rooted, etc etc?
It's kinda fresh in my mind as I only did it about 2 hours ago.
my screw up after i flashed clockwork and rebooted i didnt apply package. all is good now. thx for all the info!
Anytime, I found the process to be quite interesting and taught me alot and also removed my fear of installing new roms and such.
Make sure to create your backup through rom manager. When you do, it will reboot into clockwordrecovery and show you the progress, didn't take that long for mine but I removed alot of nonesense from 2.1. This will be your emergency fall back, you might know this already but just making sure, as I am quite a noob at this point ROFL!
Enjoy
ps - I still can't decide on a new rom, I'm so fussy about stuff, ugh.

[Q] Difficulty changing ROMs

For the record, I searched several times, but did not find an answer that seemed to fit this question. Also, I hope this isn't a ridiculous noob question.
A little background. I have/had a D1 which I rooted and changed ROMs on many times. It was easy. I either used a new .zip file or ROM Manager. I now have a Fascinate that I tried to root with SuperOneClickRoot, but it didn't seem to work as none of the 'root-only' apps would work. I then tried using Odin, but still had the same problem. I successfully used Odin to return to stock, but of course that was annoying and painful. Frustration got the best of me, and I tried again with Odin and was successful. I ran Odin, got to recovery, installed and ran a SuperClean ROM using the .zip file for many days.
Here's where the trouble begins. I decided to try a different ROM, so I rebooted into recovery, backed up my current ROM (or so I thought), and tried to load another .zip ROM. The first one would not load correctly, so I tried another, and then one more. I wiped the data and the cache before each try. None of them worked, so I thought, OK forget this, I'll go back to my backup and stick with it. NO BACKUP (for this phone) was listed under Backup or Advanced Backup. So, now I'm really stuck, because the only ROM I can get to work at all is Kaoscinate (sp?), but it will NOT work with 'root only' apps, like Titanium Backup'. I read a good bit on xda and tried to change with Odin, but I still had no real luck. I was able to get a SuperDark ROM to work, but it is on Android 2.1 and the 'root only' apps still do not work on it. I'm afraid to try another ROM change because of the issues I've had before. I want to go back to the SuperClean ROM. My phone is very important as it's my business line, so monkeying around with this trial and error is taking too long and making me very uncomfortable.
I can easily get to recovery, wipe data &/or cache, and install a new .zip, but will it boot or work for me? I believe the answer is no, so what am I doing wrong?
Will I have to go through Odin to restore to stock and then REDO the Odin root and go to a ROM that way? That is time-consuming and my confidence is low in that method working to get the ROM I want.
Is there some kind of fix for the 'root only' programs to be able to see that I AM rooted? I tried updating Busybox using Titanium, but that didn't do the trick. Plus, this time, I can't even get Titanium to open, because it says I'm not rooted.
Thanks in advance.
sigmtndawg said:
For the record, I searched several times, but did not find an answer that seemed to fit this question. Also, I hope this isn't a ridiculous noob question.
A little background. I have/had a D1 which I rooted and changed ROMs on many times. It was easy. I either used a new .zip file or ROM Manager. I now have a Fascinate that I tried to root with SuperOneClickRoot, but it didn't seem to work as none of the 'root-only' apps would work. I then tried using Odin, but still had the same problem. I successfully used Odin to return to stock, but of course that was annoying and painful. Frustration got the best of me, and I tried again with Odin and was successful. I ran Odin, got to recovery, installed and ran a SuperClean ROM using the .zip file for many days.
Here's where the trouble begins. I decided to try a different ROM, so I rebooted into recovery, backed up my current ROM (or so I thought), and tried to load another .zip ROM. The first one would not load correctly, so I tried another, and then one more. I wiped the data and the cache before each try. None of them worked, so I thought, OK forget this, I'll go back to my backup and stick with it. NO BACKUP (for this phone) was listed under Backup or Advanced Backup. So, now I'm really stuck, because the only ROM I can get to work at all is Kaoscinate (sp?), but it will NOT work with 'root only' apps, like Titanium Backup'. I read a good bit on xda and tried to change with Odin, but I still had no real luck. I was able to get a SuperDark ROM to work, but it is on Android 2.1 and the 'root only' apps still do not work on it. I'm afraid to try another ROM change because of the issues I've had before. I want to go back to the SuperClean ROM. My phone is very important as it's my business line, so monkeying around with this trial and error is taking too long and making me very uncomfortable.
I can easily get to recovery, wipe data &/or cache, and install a new .zip, but will it boot or work for me? I believe the answer is no, so what am I doing wrong?
Will I have to go through Odin to restore to stock and then REDO the Odin root and go to a ROM that way? That is time-consuming and my confidence is low in that method working to get the ROM I want.
Is there some kind of fix for the 'root only' programs to be able to see that I AM rooted? I tried updating Busybox using Titanium, but that didn't do the trick. Plus, this time, I can't even get Titanium to open, because it says I'm not rooted.
Thanks in advance.
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If it's that important, and you'd like to avoid any trial and error, simply odin your preference of ED01 roms here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1048380
To test root, simply open terminal emulator (free in market) and type "su" (no parentheses). It will notify you of a superuser request.
find an odin package for the baseband you want like EB01, EC01, ED01, etc (I use an all in one complete deodexed and debloated EB01 package myself) and the newest CWM 3. Odin them both, boot straight into cwm, wipe data/cache/dalvik, install the .zip rom of your choice from sd card and reboot phone. Should work fine, its the way I've done it and I've had few if any problems
edit: most roms like SuperClean, Evil, ComRom, etc are already rooted so there's no need to do anything special to gain root. the hardest part is flashing it correctly
You guys are awesome! Thanks!
If it's that important, and you'd like to avoid any trial and error, simply odin your preference of ED01 roms here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1048380
^^This one worked great for me. I seem to have the Samsung things I like (their visual voice mail, their video player, etc.) without the other bloatware.
I do have one more question. You said 'flashing the ROM correctly'. Before, with my D1, that simply meant using RM to 'Load Custom ROM' or rebooting into recovery mode and installing another .zip file. That has not seemed to work on this phone. What is the correct way to load another ROM on these phones.
Again, thanks for the help!!
sigmtndawg said:
You guys are awesome! Thanks!
If it's that important, and you'd like to avoid any trial and error, simply odin your preference of ED01 roms here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1048380
^^This one worked great for me. I seem to have the Samsung things I like (their visual voice mail, their video player, etc.) without the other bloatware.
I do have one more question. You said 'flashing the ROM correctly'. Before, with my D1, that simply meant using RM to 'Load Custom ROM' or rebooting into recovery mode and installing another .zip file. That has not seemed to work on this phone. What is the correct way to load another ROM on these phones.
Again, thanks for the help!!
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Do not use ROM manager at all for anything on the fascinate.
The correct way to flash on fascinate: Download ROM .zip file and place on the root directory or your sd card. Boot into CWM and wipe data/cache/ dalvik cache (dalvik is under advanced) choose install zip from sd card. Install and reboot. First reboot will take 5-10 minutes, so be patient.
Hope this helps.

root issues?

im havin root issues, im trying to undervolt via setcpu but its not working so i started looking at why, its not grabbing root access somehow. so i tried another program that uses root access, titanium backup, thats not working right either anymore due to not having root access!
so i ran 1 click root, says it completed successfully, still dont have root. tried manually doing it, flashed the img onto my device go to adb to complete the procedure and it says that the img i just flashed isnt there.
im not sure what to do anymore, im running cm7 and i just flashed faux's 1.45ghz kernel today, which is when i started noticing it.
bump, please help me.
Installed apps also dont appear in my app drawer until after a reboot.
I attempted top flash to faux's gingerbread kernel instead of the cm7 one and it didnt boot, neither did the non overclocked cm7 or GB kernel, only the faux 1.45oc one works? im confused.
Get root checker from the market and check for sure you have root. Also, reboot cos after flashing a kernel you sometimes need a reboot for everything to work.
Also, try flashing the cm7 1.0GHz stopgap kernel and wait for reboot, then wait 5 minutes, then reboot again. DO NOT pull battery after flashing. Sometimes can take 7 or 8 mins to boot up after kernel flash.
Always do a nandroid before flashing so you can get back where you were if you need to.
Worst case, flash CM7 again and start over.
Assimilated via WinBorg 4G
root checker tells me i dont have root, id reflash everything but i cant use titanium backup to backup my data because i dont have root! ive rebooted it a ton of times since everytime i install an app i need to reboot to have it show in the app draw. ill look for that kernel and try it.
edit: if i install a new kernel do i need to re-root the phone
edit#2 i reflashed cm7 and faux's 1.3ghz kernel and my root permissions are back! thank you for your help, but newly installed apps still dont show in my app draw, i figured out if i restart ADW launcher they appear, is there a fix to this, or is it a bug? this never happened before.
If you have ROM Manager, fix permissions from that. If you don't, reboot to CWM and fix permissions from there. This may help.
I say use ROM Manager 1st because it does a better job of fixing permissions for me than Romracer's CWM. Don't ask me why........it just does.
thank you for your help, my phone seems to be working again except for the app install issue which i can deal with

[Q] Recovery Mode = Yellow Triangle

So I started by rooting with Shabby's AIO root. Worked fine.
Today I unlocked, following QBKing's instructional video. No errors.
Then I flashed TWRP using fastboot. No errors.
I'm able to boot, everything seems to work (except 4g of course), but when I boot into recovery, all I get is an android with a yellow triangle. What gives? Can anyone help?
try reflashing the recovery happened to me once when i flashed cwm.
it keeps happening to me no matter how many times i try to flash either one. I'm definitely rooted and unlocked but recovery just wont stick at all, all i ever get is the yellow triangle. Ive given up on it....
I have in my notes to delete "install-recovery.sh" in system/etc and reflash. Couldn't hurt.
jrebo said:
I have in my notes to delete "install-recovery.sh" in system/etc and reflash. Couldn't hurt.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19650030&postcount=1
I think that the above post is correct, and also remember reading somewhere about it.
And I can do that from Root Explorer? I must admit I'm a little nervous - I'd better make a backup. You guys have done it too?
CharFalco said:
And I can do that from Root Explorer? I must admit I'm a little nervous - I'd better make a backup. You guys have done it too?
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I would always do a backup in CWM or bootstrap before trying anything. I've never done this, but you could always try.
I don't currently have the ability to boot into CWM. I suppose I'll try to get into Bootstrap and make a nandroid, if that's possible - I haven't done any of this stuff since around this time last year on my Evo.
Use root explorer. another reason could be your not unlocked. Does your screen say unlocked when you boot?
Mine does say I'm unlocked, I've also deleted that .sh file after backing it up and still nothing. I don't want to go through the whole process of relocking my mopho to get it to work,, but I know that may help. I've done everything I could and read through every thread on it and still no go. I've definitely learned a lot though, lol. I've also figured out how to switch the internal memory sdcard with sdcard-ext to have your actual sdcard be internal. Good stuff, I love xda.
The current procedure seems to be:
moto-fastboot delete recovery
flash recovery
reboot
That gives it time to re-flash stock recovery during the reboot. What if you flashed the new recovery, yanked battery, went to recovery, then flashed CM7 (which apparently doesn't try to replace the stock recovery)?
I've got Bootstrap working. I'll be doing a Nandroid, then trying to rename install-recovery.sh later today. If that doesn't work - all I can do is go back to total stock, unroot, and restart the process. Life goes on.
Mine definitely says "Unlocked" at the top of the screen on boot - and I'm rooted (I can use Titanium Backup and Wifi Tether)
If it's an issue with the order of rooting and unlocking (I saw no error messages at any stage), can we get a warning placed in the pudding / MoPho FAQ thread please, spare someone else the trouble we're going through?
Seeing as I'm already unlocked and rooted via Penguin's AIO root- and backed up through Bootstrap, is there any harm in flashing the system.img used in QBKing77's video? Would that solve my problem and let a normal recovery stick?
Any idea if this would bork my phone? I don't have a backup - but I -do- want to be able to use CM and Miui (hate MotoBlur). If I'm already AIO rooted and QBking Unlocked, is there any harm to flashing system.img, then flashing recovery?
I am having the same issue on my photon. when i boot in to clockworks i see the android recovery, and when i try to select it the triangle pops up with the
android guy then i have to pull battery to restart phone still works thoe. Tom
Ebert
This worked on my Xoom. Suspect same/similar will work on Photon. Issue is that recent OTA's add files that overwrite custom recovery with stock recovery if you let the device boot (don't let it boot - or if you do, delete those files, then reflash).
unlock
flash recovery
boot into recovery
root
then while still in CWM, no reboot, but instead:
adb remount
adb shell rm /system/recovery-from-boot.p
adb shell rm /system/etc/install-recovery.sh
reboot with CWM
Only had to flash CWM once.
topeka_tom said:
I am having the same issue on my photon. when i boot in to clockworks i see the android recovery, and when i try to select it the triangle pops up with the
android guy then i have to pull battery to restart phone still works thoe. Tom
Ebert
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I had the same issue then someone told me to root via Torpedo method. Did that and everything was smooth sailing from there.
Flash over Bootstrap?
With having bootsrap installed, could I use one of romracers CWM installers and flash over bootstrap? Has anyone tried this?
this is what i used. work great
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1250697
moonzbabysh, would you direct me to the thread that shows how to switch the internal and external memory around. I've got a 16gb card but can't put apps on it. Thanks.

[Q] Lost Root after Flashing new ROM

Flashed a new rom yesterday. Actually, I just updated it on top of the previous version. Anyway, after flashing this, I 'lost' root. I thought it had somehow actually unrooted my phone after going into settings and turning superuser back on and it didn't work, so I decided just to root again. Went to do that, said it was already rooted, but I went ahead and rerooted. Did not work. ROM Manager and Titanium Backup will not work. However, I can shut the phone off and manually boot into cwm with no problem. I assumed when I flashed another rom, the issue would be taken care of, but today after not getting any signal, I reflashed a rom I had previously used with no problem, but when the phone is on, it acts as if it is not rooted. Any idea how to get my root back? Also, before you say it, I have never been able to restore any backup I've ever made. They all would say md5 mismatch, and I read the solution to this was to delete that file and just make another with the same name. I did that, but now when I try to restore it says error while restoring /system! Obviously, I do not know much about these things so please go easy on me. Thank you in advance for any help and suggestions!
EDIT: Flashed back to cm 10.1 and root seems to be back, but I would still like some insight into why none of my backups will ever restore. I obviously have to be or have done something wrong.
Celeste8157 said:
Flashed a new rom yesterday. Actually, I just updated it on top of the previous version. Anyway, after flashing this, I 'lost' root. I thought it had somehow actually unrooted my phone after going into settings and turning superuser back on and it didn't work, so I decided just to root again. Went to do that, said it was already rooted, but I went ahead and rerooted. Did not work. ROM Manager and Titanium Backup will not work. However, I can shut the phone off and manually boot into cwm with no problem. I assumed when I flashed another rom, the issue would be taken care of, but today after not getting any signal, I reflashed a rom I had previously used with no problem, but when the phone is on, it acts as if it is not rooted. Any idea how to get my root back? Also, before you say it, I have never been able to restore any backup I've ever made. They all would say md5 mismatch, and I read the solution to this was to delete that file and just make another with the same name. I did that, but now when I try to restore it says error while restoring /system! Obviously, I do not know much about these things so please go easy on me. Thank you in advance for any help and suggestions!
EDIT: Flashed back to cm 10.1 and root seems to be back, but I would still like some insight into why none of my backups will ever restore. I obviously have to be or have done something wrong.
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Couple of things come to mind...
1) Did you open an app called SuperUser and make sure that TiBu was set to "Okay" or "Allow" whichever the option is
2) When you open terminal and type su does the $ change to a # --- if Yes then you are Rooted
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Also what ROM did you flash that seemingly caused you to loose ROOT access?

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