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I've found that whenever I flash a Froyo ROM, the apps I had installed automatically download and install from the market. I have to assume this is how Market works with Froyo. Problem is it can take quite a while. Is there anyway to prevent (at least temporarily) the automatic download/install? I'd much rather be able to manually select and download/install TitaniumBackup and restore apps from the TB backups I made.
I generally just put the power control widget on the desktop and turn off sync/3G/wifi. Then run Titanium backup.
Turn off autosync.
During the initial setup of your Google account there is a check box to enable/disable Google automatic sync. Unchecking the box will prevent your apps and Google contacts from syncing upon first running your new froyo rom. Afterwords you can go into setting/sync and enable the option.
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Thank you. I figured it had to be pretty simple.
Hey guys, need Some help here. I upgraded from Bamf 2.1 to Bamf 3.0 sense, and after restoring with Titanium I'm having two issues:
1, every time I restart, the phone forgets my Google account information and I have to log in
/sync again
2, the weather lockscreen now shows "no weather update available "
After several hours of searching, I found some info suggesting that it may be due to titanium restoring to the sd card. I reflashed, let Google sync, and then only restored all the green options and select althird party apps. The second time, I had changed default restore to preserve original file structure. Still no dice. I then restored "accounts" directly to internal storage. Still no dice.
This is getting very frustrating, I would love any guidance.
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i would only re install backups for third party apps. even though your reinstalling system data with useful information, its all based from the sense 2.1 interface, and restoring it in sense 3.0 can lead to the kind of incompatibility issues your having.
That makes sense (no pun intended). Thanks for the reply
I had a lot of problems using Ti Backup when trying to switch over to a GB based ROM, and I later determined the backups were causing most if not all of them.
I would be very selective on what you backup and restore new again if your are switching between Fr and GB
This was GB to GB
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Do you have your background data turned off? I had the same problem with my lock screen showing the weather update. It should show if you tap on the weather and manually update from the sense clock on a home screen. but if your background data is turned off it will only update every hour (thats the lowest amount of time it will allow you to update itself if data is turned off). I now just run the clock on my lock screen.
No Background data was on. Pretty sure it was from restoring data through titanium. Reflashed and only restored third party, issue went away
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Hey guys,
First of all a little intro. I started playing with rooting, flashing mods and ROMs few weeks ago. I have been reading the general, Q&A and dev forums a lot and I have made sure from my end that this question has not yet been asked. In the case that these questions have already been asked and answered, please direct me to that thread.
So, I started off with just rooting my phone, few days later installed a custom kernel, few days later started modding stuff like battery icons and like and just few days back flashed a custom ROM for the first time.
After flashing the ROM (Turkbey 32.1 ported to i777 by LilChris), I restored whatever I could using Titanium backup PRO (restored only missing apps+data). But there were few things that did NOT get restored and have to reconfigure all that from scratch. Here's the list of things that had to be reconfigured.
AUTO START PREFERENCES: Is it possible to port the auto start settings to a new ROM? I had configured many apps to not auto start at bootup using Gemini App Manager. But after flashing this ROM, I have to do everything again. TiBU apparently couldn't backup/restore those settings from Gemini App Manager.
FROZEN STATES: Is it possible to preserve the frozen state of apps when switching ROMs? I had to re-freeze few selected apps (I have few rogue apps which I keep installed but frozen hoping that a future update will improve that app's impact on battery. Example: Facebook, Kik, ..) because restore using TiBU simply restored those apps but did not re-freeze them.
Thanks.
A request to the mod: Please move this to the correct forum in case it is not. I keep seeing questions of this genre in "General" as well as "Q&A" forums. So I am not 100% sure if this is the right place for this question.
Wow! About 100 views and no replies? Is my question too dumb?
Let me rephrase the question this way:
How do you guys do backup/restore of autostart pref and frozen states of apps? Or do you care to do that?
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "autostart preferences". And, you cant save the "frozen apps" from TiBu. Just refreeze them when you install a new rom. It should only take a few seconds to do that.
I know what he means, and I don't know of a way to take the preferences with you. I've restored an app with data (autostarts) and it didn't take the saved data with it. It makes sense that you wouldn't be able to do it. Restoring nandroids restores it as it was though, but not across roms. I'll keep an eye on this thread in case someone knows of a way.
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I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "autostart preferences".
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I use Gemini App Manager to control which apps can auto start under different conditions. For example, I don't want Fluent News to start when the phone boots. If needed I will start the app manually and then let it fetch the latest news. "Autostarts" app can also do the same thing. These apps don't have a way to export my preferences. So when I flash a new ROM, I have to set the auto start preferences of 10s of apps manually. I am looking for a way to avoid this manual step every time I flash a new ROM.
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And, you cant save the "frozen apps" from TiBu. Just refreeze them when you install a new rom. It should only take a few seconds to do that.
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I have over 300 apps and I keep quite a few apps frozen and defrost them only when needed. Few examples of such apps: GPS Status, GTalk, bunch of system apps (even on custom ROMs). It takes quite some time for me to scroll through that app list on TiBU, reading the app names one by one and freezing the required.
Well, just today I read somewhere that I could filter the current frozen apps, apply a label to them and export the settings to update.zip. After flashing a new ROM, flashing that update.zip should retrieve my label assignments. I haven't yet tried that, but will on my next ROM flash.
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Well, just today I read somewhere that I could filter the current frozen apps, apply a label to them and export the settings to update.zip. After flashing a new ROM, flashing that update.zip should retrieve my label assignments. I haven't yet tried that, but will on my next ROM flash.
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good luck
Not sure if this will help you, but you may want to have a look at Boot Manager (app)
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good luck
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That technique worked for freezing my selecting apps using batch operation!
Alright. One problem solved. Now looking for a way to backup/restore my autostart preferences.
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AUTO START PREFERENCES: Is it possible to port the auto start settings to a new ROM? I had configured many apps to not auto start at bootup using Gemini App Manager. But after flashing this ROM, I have to do everything again. TiBU apparently couldn't backup/restore those settings from Gemini App Manager.
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I've used System Tuner (it's on the Market) to do this, that is disable/re-enable individual apps from startup, in the past. It has a LOT of options, can almost replace TiBu (well not really but it does have some backup options). I couldn't find a setting that would easily export/import preferences but I think it puts some of it's data on the sdcard so it might survive wipes.
If I figure it out either way I'll repost.
hello
i noticed recently after moving to ICS, that after I flash a new rom, all my old apps start to download and install automatically.
Downside is I may not want all apps to install and then when an app installs it just installs but its old settings are not applied.
This never happened before when I was on GB.
I used to be able to batch install apps via titanium as well as restore the apps old settings.
is there a way to get back to what I am used to or have better control over apps re installing following the re flashing of a rom?
thanks
It's a default back and restore android feature, just reboot the phone or something, it's gonna stop it.
When you set up through setup wizard, it has a checkbox asking backup/restore checked. Just uncheck it. This was also in gingerbread setup wizard.
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glacierguy said:
When you set up through setup wizard, it has a checkbox asking backup/restore checked. Just uncheck it. This was also in gingerbread setup wizard.
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is this different than the option under Settings, Privacy - the 2 check boxes to "back up my settings" and "automatic restore"
do you use either of these or do you rely on an app to do this for you?
titanium or myback up pro?
thanks
Idk if its different, I just know I uncheck when doing setup wizard. I always manually install all 150-200 apps... It's a pain in the ass, but I know its cleaner that way over titanium backup and its faster than auto restore.
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glacierguy said:
Idk if its different, I just know I uncheck when doing setup wizard. I always manually install all 150-200 apps... It's a pain in the ass, but I know its cleaner that way over titanium backup and its faster than auto restore.
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wow, thanks
i think i will try mybackup pro as it looks as if it can save and back up more things than titanium (sms, apns, ...).
with how frequent updates are coming out to roms i am looking for more convenience to get back up and running faster after taking the new rom
thanks, i also came over to caprom from speed and I think i am preferring it so far, although both are pretty good
thanks
Also I found this when I opened the market the first time too... Just git the X in the top right corner...
I opened market within 10 minutes of flashing the leak so I got/caught it early..
But ya.. Uncheck the option during setup
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Option in TiBU
This only works for those of us on Rooted Systems using CWM and Titanium Backup Pro. May work on standard but IDK, I use Pro.
One of the best ways I found to have full control over what gets re-installed on a flash of a new ROM with or without the latest Gapps "Restore from Google Account" tick box is to First do a CWM Nandroid Back Up of the current ROM with all the apps you want to keep updated through Play Store.
On install of your New ROM in the setup wizard, set up your Google account, un-check the "Restore account from Google" if it is there. turn on and connect your WiFi if you want. Go to Playstore and install your Titanium Backup and Pro license. Set up your TiBu prefferances and reboot the phone. Sometimes this needs to be done to get TiBu all the way up and running. then launch TiBu and go to Menu>Extract from Nandroid. Surf to the clockworkmod folder if you have to and sellect the backup you made. It will take a minute or more but there will be a list of apps and an option to restore Apps+Data, Apps only or Data Only. Make your tick box app selections and then hit the green check mark at the top right in TiBu.
This is way faster than the Play Store download speed and if you select Apps + Data your games and such will be right where you left off.
Then you can go to Play Store>My Apps and update any apps that need it since the Nandriod Backup was done.:good:
Titanium can backup your sms, bookmarks, call logs, and wifi access points...
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I just went from Paranoid Android to CyanogenMod, and expected to have to re-add several apps. If I go from an AOSP ROM back to a TouchWiz ROM, it is treated as a different device, and I get an app list months old. I was pleased to see Android attempting to download my newest set of apps...
However, the sync failed like it does 50% of the time (every app individually fails). Now when I visit the Google Play store, I see my 'new' phone with only a couple of apps installed. I just lost the entire list. Since there's no way to batch install apps with the Play Store, I get to spend a looooong time looking up and reinstalling them by clicking around like an idiot.
Am I missing something? Every element of the story I just described seems like awful design. I'd really not like to resort to AppBrain or something like it. It's incredibly stupid that if the Play Store has some error syncing apps, it makes the new short list the new goal for syncing (so, it won't even try next time).
In short, it would be ideal to have my list of installed apps tied to my account, so that in the event of a problem, I could just push a large "Yes, download ****ing everything" button. Apps that aren't compatible with THIS device can just be skipped I guess. Why is this so hard? Instead I'm going down my 'All' list on my phone, tapping 5 times per app to install them one by ****ing one.
Why don't you just backup apps with titanium and then restore them when you flash a new rom? Titanium has batch commands so it's pretty much one click for each. You can also set up a back up schedule so things are always backed up
Aside from my hesitation to use another app to perform a function that is already supported...
Is Titanium storing the apps themselves, or a list of apps? I really really really do not want to store several MB/GB of data which may or may not be corrupted. If anything, I want to simply store a list of apps, which will all re-download upon restoring the backup.
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Aside from my hesitation to use another app to perform a function that is already supported...
Is Titanium storing the apps themselves, or a list of apps? I really really really do not want to store several MB/GB of data which may or may not be corrupted. If anything, I want to simply store a list of apps, which will all re-download upon restoring the backup.
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Yea it will store all the apps. But if they are working, they probably aren't corrupt.
Also, I have had a few phones over the years linked to my Google account and the play store is never segmented by phone. All my apps that I have been using since my OG Droid show up on my note 2. The times I have let the play store sync my apps they all downloaded fine as long as your screen doesn't turn off which you can force to stay on in the dev settings
I have been using titanium for 5 years now. And have restored my apps literally hundreds of times. Never once did it not work. Never had a single failure. I also have only had the play store re install my apps once. That was the very first time time I flashed a rom back on my droid. That was the first and only time it did that.
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Simply as a matter of principle, I am not concerned with storing the apps themselves. The entire point of the app sync is to keep track of what I have installed. Backing up the apps themselves strikes me as a different goal entirely.
I've had many successful restores myself, but just as many failures. It isn't that difficult of a task... and if it does fail, when every app for some reason (even if it is a legitimate one) isn't installed , there's no way to retry the process. Your new list of synced apps is now the tiny amount that succeeded, the rest are lost to needing to manually reselect. This is absurd.
Multiple phones are definitely treated as separate app lists. I have 5 devices on my Play Store account; each has its own list of associated apps.
This is because every time you flash your phone, or factory reset for that matter, your phone gets a new device ID. That makes it look like a new device to the play store. This will happen anytime you flash a ROM and wipe data. Dirty flashes do not change the ID.
If you use titanium back up, it automatically stores your device ID, so it will prompt you to revert it back the first time opening it after flashing the ROM. This will allow you to maybe reinstall apps through play store, or at least keep the "app list".
I personally think you are being petty about this. It's not Google's fault you are constantly flashing your phone and creating new app ID's.
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I have had the play store fail upon sync before, but it has never failed to keep the list of all the apps I've installed on any device tied to my google account. Strange that said list got wiped for you.
I'd just install a backup app and call it a day. I use Ultimate Backup Pro, by Jrummy. The newest version will sync your apps (a list, or the data) to Dropbox, Box, or Google Drive.
^^^ +1 for this
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This is because every time you flash your phone, or factory reset for that matter, your phone gets a new device ID. That makes it look like a new device to the play store. This will happen anytime you flash a ROM and wipe data. Dirty flashes do not change the ID.
If you use titanium back up, it automatically stores your device ID, so it will prompt you to revert it back the first time opening it after flashing the ROM. This will allow you to maybe reinstall apps through play store, or at least keep the "app list".
I personally think you are being petty about this. It's not Google's fault you are constantly flashing your phone and creating new app ID's.
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I'd like to agree that it is petty, or believe the terms of the problem as you describe them.
It isn't petty that a feature is not working correctly. Flashing a phone gives a new device ID, but so does losing it, or replacing it. You're passing off the lack of harmony as my mistake.
The mere fact none of us can find a way to retry the app sync proves my point; this argument alone brings me a bit of closure, because at least I am not the only one with the issue. If you are all happy with backing up actual program data instead of realizing the power of a synced list, fine. To suggest this behavior is the intention of Google, however, is nonsense.
...and one last word: if it were as simple as getting a new device ID upon each flash, surely I'd be able to log in to the Play Store and view the list of apps on my 'old' device, right? How does Google know that device no longer exists? How are the two ideas of "syncing apps, but not across different devices" and "getting a new ID upon flash, then attempting to sync" both able to exist?
Perhaps I'm wrong about all of this, but can you really say using 3rd party software to remedy a failed sync is not noteworthy? I specifically remember myself mocking the idea of avoiding 3rd party software when a user wanted to solve a problem... this is much different. This is a legitimate issue with an existing feature.
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If you are all happy with backing up actual program data instead of realizing the power of a synced list, fine.
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No one said you should backup/restore app data, just the app itself. The app data is actually frowned upon for the most part. Although I have done it numerous times and have never had an issue, but that's a whole different can of worms
But in the end, you do what you want to do.
You are tilting at windmills.
There is a reason everyone uses an app backup program like Titanium or My Backup Pro (those are the two I use). It's the easiest/fastest way to restore apps. Google backup and restore was not intended for 'us' who root. No amount of believing its wrong the way it works is going to change that.
There are apps that will only backup the market link (to your storage) but the only one I know of does not have a one button restore. But it's called App List Backup if you want to check it out.
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I love titanium backup. The fact that I can backup all of my apps and restore them plus restore data, such as the music that's already buffered on Google play music is great. Is a time saver! Imop
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I still feel like you guys are misunderstanding me (mostly, yes, I've tried App List Backup, and it's alright, "Google should already do this better" aside)...
Backing up programs themselves to create some huge file is a completely different thing than maintaining a list of installed apps on Google's servers. Completely different things. You may be willing to say they accomplish the same goal, something I disagree with. Let's stop talking about rooting and flashing, and start considering the idea of a lost/broken/corrupted phone. If the Google app sync worked better (in terms of reliability or feature set), it would be a painless task to have a new phone redownload all apps installed on the old one.
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I still feel like you guys are misunderstanding me (mostly, yes, I've tried App List Backup, and it's alright, "Google should already do this better" aside)...
Backing up programs themselves to create some huge file is a completely different thing than maintaining a list of installed apps on Google's servers. Completely different things. You may be willing to say they accomplish the same goal, something I disagree with. Let's stop talking about rooting and flashing, and start considering the idea of a lost/broken/corrupted phone. If the Google app sync worked better (in terms of reliability or feature set), it would be a painless task to have a new phone redownload all apps installed on the old one.
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You like to find problems instead of solutions. Sure it's a little bit of work to go down the Google Play list and install the one you want but how often are you planning to break/lose/corrupt your phone?
Backup file size. Backup to dropbox. Backup to your SDCard. Move your backup file to your PC.
Restoring a device to the way it was. Do a nandroid. Use your extSDCard. Root the new phone and restore. Boom exactly the way you left it.
I think you already mentioned that you didn't want to use AppBrain. But that is another potential solution.
I realize you want a perfect native Google solution but we are not the ones who can solve that for you. It would be a nice feature, but I still wouldn't use it. App backup gives me more control with really no downside. And nandroid is a perfect system restore with data intact.
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