Is there a way to use all 3 networks because 4G is now in my area and it would be nice if i could use that network for better speeds. But it seems that most roms are either GSM and 3G or 4G and Wimax is there any solution?
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I don't think you understand the question your asking.
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glennd said:
Is there a way to use all 3 networks because 4G is now in my area and it would be nice if i could use that network for better speeds. But it seems that most roms are either GSM and 3G or 4G and Wimax is there any solution?
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If you have a 4G capable GSM phone in America on a carrier such as T-Mobile or AT&T you can have 3G and 4G
If you have a 4G capable CDMA phone in America on a carrier such as Sprint or Verizon you can have 3G and 4G/LTE
GSM means the phone uses a SIM card.
CDMA phones don't use SIM cards.
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If you have a 4G capable GSM phone in America on a carrier such as T-Mobile or AT&T you can have 3G and 4G
If you have a 4G capable CDMA phone in America on a carrier such as Sprint or Verizon you can have 3G and 4G/LTE
GSM means the phone uses a SIM card.
CDMA phones don't use SIM cards.
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In Australia we have Vodafone,Optus, etc that offer 2G (GSM) and 3g (WCDMA).
But Telstra Australia's biggest carrier now has 4G as well. I thought that maybe to access this new network I was restricted by the rom I am using, not the sim card. Because of the two different type of roms ie GSM and CDMA. Or is all controlled via my carrier?
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In Australia we have Vodafone,Optus, etc that offer 2G (GSM) and 3g (WCDMA).
But Telstra Australia's biggest carrier now has 4G as well. I thought that maybe to access this new network I was restricted by the rom I am using, not the sim card. Because of the two different type of roms ie GSM and CDMA. Or is all controlled via my carrier?
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your "4G" isn't really 4G, it's 3.5G.
It's still HSPA (WCDMA), just a faster version and your phone already supports taht. It will say either E(edge), 3G or 4G/H+
IF it is LTE that you are talking about Telstra getting, the 3vo does not support that network, there isn't an LTE radio on the device so no possible way for you to access it.
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your "4G" isn't really 4G, it's 3.5G.
It's still HSPA (WCDMA), just a faster version and your phone already supports taht. It will say either E(edge), 3G or 4G/H+
IF it is LTE that you are talking about Telstra getting, the 3vo does not support that network, there isn't an LTE radio on the device so no possible way for you to access it.
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Thanks very much that was the answer i was looking for cheers.
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Can I unlocked a thunderbolt and put my tmobile g2 sim and used it?
No. The TB doesn't use GSM as a radio and is strictly CDMA for the phone side of things. Also, the LTE radio is different than T-Mobile's 4G radio. I'm sure somebody with a more technical side of why will come in, but that's the basic reason it won't work.
the only carriers verizon phones can switch to is cricket and and sprint (if either carrier is even willing to activate the phone on the network).
T-mobile can only take unlocked GSM phones (which would mean att phones)
I don't know enough about the thunderbolt being used on different carriers cause I don't fully understand exactly what data is being stored on the sim card. If it is only 4g data than theoretically It should be able to work only on sprint/cricket (without 4g, if they are willing to activate it).
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As above, no, you can't use it on T-Mobile, you could take it over to Cricket/MetroPCS. Metro I know uses 4G LTE, so you'd be able to get everything out of the phone. However, I know roaming with that provider sucks unless you don't travel anywhere.
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As above, no, you can't use it on T-Mobile, you could take it over to Cricket/MetroPCS. Metro I know uses 4G LTE, so you'd be able to get everything out of the phone. However, I know roaming with that provider sucks unless you don't travel anywhere.
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MetroPCS uses a different frequency band for their 4G LTE (I think they're on 1700, and Verizon is on 700), so the LTE won't work.
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As above, no, you can't use it on T-Mobile, you could take it over to Cricket/MetroPCS. Metro I know uses 4G LTE, so you'd be able to get everything out of the phone. However, I know roaming with that provider sucks unless you don't travel anywhere.
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No you cannot take it over to Cricket/MetroPCS. The phone does not have a traditional MEID to allow it to work on a traditional CDMA network, and the LTE radio is not compatible with the "LTE" system that MetroPCS runs.
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If you don't know what you're talking about then don't post it. Obviously you don't have a Thunderbolt to say if it can be unlocked or not. HTC Thunderbolt uses GSM network on 4G LTE. It can be unlocked, but haven't figured it out yet.
NO CRICKET OR METROPCS can be run on it.
I took out my sim to see if the phone will work on 3G. And the result is no. No way of putting it on cricket.
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If you don't know what you're talking about then don't post it. Obviously you don't have a Thunderbolt to say if it can be unlocked or not. HTC Thunderbolt uses GSM network on 4G LTE. It can be unlocked, but haven't figured it out yet.
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LTE is not GSM. The Thunderbolt runs on 700 MHz LTE and 850/1900 CDMA. It does NOT support ANY GSM/UMTS/HSPA bands. You CANNOT take it to ANY GSM provider. If you were able to unlock it, you MIGHT be able to take it to another LTE carrier, but ONLY if that carrier also uses 700 MHz for LTE (for example, possibly AT&T once they launch LTE), but even then you'd be able to use it for data ONLY. It is unlikely that you'll be able to use it on another CDMA carrier either (such as Cricket or MetroPCS) because it isn't provisioned in the way all other CDMA phones are.
Jumping on the bandwagon, no.
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If you don't know what you're talking about then don't post it. Obviously you don't have a Thunderbolt to say if it can be unlocked or not. HTC Thunderbolt uses GSM network on 4G LTE. It can be unlocked, but haven't figured it out yet.
NO CRICKET OR METROPCS can be run on it.
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The TB will NEVER work on any other carriers GSM network. Period. End Of Line. It is not a matter of "unlocking" the phones. The LTE standard does not define interoperability with existing the existing GSM standard. The TB cannot operate on a traditional CDMA network (think Cricket/MetroPCS) because it is missing fundamental components required in every CDMA handset (there is no hardware MEID on the TB). Without an MEID the device will not work on a CDMA network, no matter how much unlocking you try. It will not work because the network cannot talk to the phone and there is nothing you or anyone else can do to change that fact.
What VZW has done is create a hybrid system linking their LTE network with their CDMA network. There is a reason dialing *228 does nothing on the TB. There is nothing for the system to update. All of the settings are created on the LTE network and are pushed to the VZW CDMA network on their back end. Your phone number is tied to your SIM card on their network, not your MEID. Want to prove it to yourself, take the sim card out of your TB and put it in another TB. Care to guess what happens? I'll help. The new TB you just put your SIM card into will now have your cell phone number. Now if you have been with VZW for more then 5 seconds you would know that with every phone prior to change your number you had to call customer service and they had to update your MEID and in turn you had to update your phone (*228) so the CDMA system knew what phone belonged to what number.
Tl; dr...: LTE and GSM are not interchangeable terms and technologies. LTE radios cannot function on existing GSM networks. TB is not a true CDMA device and will not work on a traditional CDMA network.
So my basic question is this, i am on the T-mobile in the US network and i want a new phone now the new HTC one s that you buy from the T-mobile store gets about 20mbs download speed 4g which is really HSPA+ and the the international versions of the one s and one x say they can get this but my question will the international versions get the full speen cause i know for example the sensation tmobile version was especially made for there network and 4g speeds??
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So my basic question is this, i am on the T-mobile in the US network and i want a new phone now the new HTC one s that you buy from the T-mobile store gets about 20mbs download speed 4g which is really HSPA+ and the the international versions of the one s and one x say they can get this but my question will the international versions get the full speen cause i know for example the sensation tmobile version was especially made for there network and 4g speeds??
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Find out if the phone supports the bands the carrier uses. Most carriers use their own bands. like an ATT device will not 3g or 4g on Tmobile. and vice versa
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Find out if the phone supports the bands the carrier uses. Most carriers use their own bands. like an ATT device will not 3g or 4g on Tmobile. and vice versa
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Well I know the phone works on my network what I need to know is will it get the same download and upload speeds as the T-Mobile variant I know they won't get the att speeds cause they use LTE T-Mobile does not use LTE so it could work with full data speeds but I am not sure
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Well I know the phone works on my network what I need to know is will it get the same download and upload speeds as the T-Mobile variant I know they won't get the att speeds cause they use LTE T-Mobile does not use LTE so it could work with full data speeds but I am not sure
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As long as it supports the same bands then yes it will get pretty much the same speeds.
Long story short, I rooted using the Exynos Abuse and flashed the SuperNexus I777 ROM and am only getting EDGE.
My friend gave me his ATT Galaxy S2 SGH-1777. I have a local carrier that also uses GSM. So I have a non-ATT SIM card.
When I plugged in the SIM card to this ATT SGS2, only the texting and dialing worked. I didn't get any data. I talked to ATT for an unlock code (which they gave me). It wasn't until after I got the unlock code that I found out the phone was already GSM unlocked.
So I proceeded to root and flash the ROM I listed above. I am only getting EDGE data. Wifi works and as far as I know (with the minimal poking around) everything else does so far.
Am I missing something in terms of toggle switches inside the settings menu to turn on EDGE? Is this carrier specific? I don't see why EDGE would work but 3G wouldn't if I am in the coverage area.
I am doing this for a friend. I am a HTC Thunderbolt user so the SGS2 is new to me. What are these modems people are flashing? Should I flash one of these in hopes of picking up a 3G signal through the Non-ATT carrier?
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Long story short, I rooted using the Exynos Abuse and flashed the SuperNexus I777 ROM and am only getting EDGE.
My friend gave me his ATT Galaxy S2 SGH-1777. I have a local carrier that also uses GSM. So I have a non-ATT SIM card.
When I plugged in the SIM card to this ATT SGS2, only the texting and dialing worked. I didn't get any data. I talked to ATT for an unlock code (which they gave me). It wasn't until after I got the unlock code that I found out the phone was already GSM unlocked.
So I proceeded to root and flash the ROM I listed above. I am only getting EDGE data. Wifi works and as far as I know (with the minimal poking around) everything else does so far.
Am I missing something in terms of toggle switches inside the settings menu to turn on EDGE? Is this carrier specific? I don't see why EDGE would work but 3G wouldn't if I am in the coverage area.
I am doing this for a friend. I am a HTC Thunderbolt user so the SGS2 is new to me. What are these modems people are flashing? Should I flash one of these in hopes of picking up a 3G signal through the Non-ATT carrier?
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What carrier are u on? If u are accessing other towers besides at&t then u will pretty much get edge
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What carrier are u on? If u are accessing other towers besides at&t then u will pretty much get edge
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The carrier is Cincinnati Bell. Is it possible to get the phone to pick up towers specific for Bell or do I need the carrier to do this?
zilla. said:
The carrier is Cincinnati Bell. Is it possible to get the phone to pick up towers specific for Bell or do I need the carrier to do this?
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I'm pretty sure Cincinnati Bell uses T-Mobile towers so all the limitations that T-Mobile had with At&t phones on its network applies here
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I'm pretty sure Cincinnati Bell uses T-Mobile towers so all the limitations that T-Mobile had with At&t phones on its network applies here
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^^This! Confirm what network your carrier is accessing. If it's T-Mobile you're out of luck
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^^This! Confirm what network your carrier is accessing. If it's T-Mobile you're out of luck
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If the phone is GSM unlocked, should it be able to access the respective tower of the carrier that is tied to the SIM card?
If not can the radios (?) specifically select towers?
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If the phone is GSM unlocked, should it be able to access the respective tower of the carrier?
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Not if the phone doesn't have the hardware to support those specific bands.
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If the phone is GSM unlocked, should it be able to access the respective tower of the carrier?
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Yes. Your phone is GSM unlocked; therefore it can access the Cincinnati Bell towers. However, since those are actually T-Mobile towers, you can only use T-Mobile bands. Since T-Mobile and AT&T used different bands for 3G, and the phone's radio is designed to use AT&T's bands, you can only access the 2G bands.
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Yes. Your phone is GSM unlocked; therefore it can access the Cincinnati Bell towers. However, since those are actually T-Mobile towers, you can only use T-Mobile bands. Since T-Mobile and AT&T used different bands for 3G, and the phone's radio is designed to use AT&T's bands, you can only access the 2G bands.
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Thank you for the insight. I will call to confirm.
some of the newer tablets have both bands built in....so then you could use both gsm bands on tmo and att.....like the new note 8....it will have more gsm and lte bands than those in the past
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some of the newer tablets have both bands built in....so then you could use both gsm bands on tmo and att.....like the new note 8....it will have more gsm and lte bands than those in the past
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thanks for this insightful post that has ZERO to do with the i777.....
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Yes. Your phone is GSM unlocked; therefore it can access the Cincinnati Bell towers. However, since those are actually T-Mobile towers, you can only use T-Mobile bands. Since T-Mobile and AT&T used different bands for 3G, and the phone's radio is designed to use AT&T's bands, you can only access the 2G bands.
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Sorry for bringing this up again, I was looking at the specs of the SGH-I777 (ATT's SGS2) vs SGH-T989 (T-Mobile's SGS2). It looks like both of the phones use the same bands except T-Mobile is capable of one more: WCDMA 2100. Is this the band that T-Mobile transmits it's 3G over? Otherwise they look almost identical.
Attached screenshot of comparison: http://imgur.com/8OQXftD
T-Mobile utilizes AWS (1700 MHz) band. Look better and you'll see that what you marked isn't a difference, 1700 is.
Google "List of UMTS networks".
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T-Mobile utilizes AWS (1700 MHz) band. Look better and you'll see that what you marked isn't a difference, 1700 is.
Google "List of UMTS networks".
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Oh of course. I glanced over that way too fast. Thanks.
It is my understanding that my(our) DNA would be ok to use internationally with another provider.
How do we go about unlocking the DNA and freeing it from VZ ? I apologize in advance if this was posted elsewhere as i didn't find anything.
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It is my understanding that my(our) DNA would be ok to use internationally with another provider.
How do we go about unlocking the DNA and freeing it from VZ ? I apologize in advance if this was posted elsewhere as i didn't find anything.
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Its sim portion is carrier unlocked for use on any compatible GSM provider out of the box, no unlocking required. I use mine on T-Mobile. Other CDMA carriers is another story. If the service uses a sim card you're good to go as soon as you insert the sim card and boot up.
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Its sim portion is carrier unlocked for use on any compatible GSM provider out of the box, no unlocking required. I use mine on T-Mobile. Other CDMA carriers is another story. If the service uses a sim card you're good to go as soon as you insert the sim card and boot up.
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So then assuming my destination country has a 4G network i can get a prepaid simcard throw it in and i would get voice and data ? TY for the quick response btw
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So then assuming my destination country has a 4G network i can get a prepaid simcard throw it in and i would get voice and data ? TY for the quick response btw
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Well, HSDPA network as its GSM, but yes, any GSM network using the frequencies the DNA can use will work without any modding or changes.
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Well, HSDPA network as its GSM, but yes, any GSM network using the frequencies the DNA can use will work without any modding or changes.
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HSDPA+ Capable?
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So then assuming my destination country has a 4G network i can get a prepaid simcard throw it in and i would get voice and data ? TY for the quick response btw
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If the LTE band is 750, yes. If not, HSDPA+ is a close second.
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HSDPA+ Capable?
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Yes.
Just pulled these specs from gsmarena....
2G Network CDMA 800 / 1900
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network CDMA2000 1xEV-DO
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700
GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
Speed HSPA, EV-DO Rev. A, up to 3.1 Mbps; LTE, Cat3, 50 Mbps UL, 100 Mbps DL
The above specs cover most if not all of the carriers around the world. The ones i was interested in were Orange, Vodafone, Zapp and Cosmote. (Europe)
Thank you all for the quick replies!
Did it work for you?
I have a Droid DNA that I plan to use on my trip to Switzerland using provider called Salt. Did you get your droid DNA to work wth the European service providers? Did you have any difficulties?
Ok, so I am a little new to this because I am coming from Sprint, where I was able to choose 2g, 3G, and 4g but since I have just switched to AT&T the only options I am finding in the network settings are GSM which gives me what appears to be 2g. When I choose wcdma but that gives me 4g, and then LTE. Is there something I am missing when it comes to the network choice that will give me 3G?
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Ok, so I am a little new to this because I am coming from Sprint, where I was able to choose 2g, 3G, and 4g but since I have just switched to AT&T the only options I am finding in the network settings are GSM which gives me what appears to be 2g. When I choose wcdma but that gives me 4g, and then LTE. Is there something I am missing when it comes to the network choice that will give me 3G?
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4G = 3G for AT&T. AT&T (as do other carriers) consider their HSPA+ network to be "4G" when in fact really it is still 3G
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4G = 3G for AT&T. AT&T (as do other carriers) consider their HSPA+ network to be "4G" when in fact really it is still 3G
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Oh wow, thank you so much! That clears things up for me. Thanks!