I dont get why we cant have custom roms for the droid razr because, the bionic, the droid 3, droid x, and droid 2 have custom rom even though the bootloader is still locked
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Okay its because there isnt a SBF yet for the device. Once that is leaked and ready to go there wont be much roms. Also the devs need a razr to play with and most devs dont have it yet. In time you will have roms.
What do u mean by sbf?
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What do u mean by sbf?
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SBF = System Binary File.
It is a binary image of the stock (unmodified) Droid Razr OS, that can be pushed to the phone through a program like RSDLite. The purpose of this SBF is to be able to restore a phone to factory condition, if something goes wrong.
So, devs need:
* The SBF file, as a baseline and recovery tool
* An unlocked bootloader, so that they can load ROMs onto the phone
* The source code for an Android OS, so they can modify it and actually create the ROM.
So far, I think they only have #3. Items #1 and #2 will come over time.
Misleading title. I thought OP already DEVELOP droid razr rom
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An unlocked bootloader is nice, but not absolutely necessary, there are plenty of phones with locked bootloaders and custom roms.
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An unlocked bootloader is nice, but not absolutely necessary, there are plenty of phones with locked bootloaders and custom roms.
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Agreed. you dont need a unlocked bootloader. Only if you want custom kernels.
hi thanks for your information
We're in a bit of a tough spot right now. We want to mod and play but without a SBF to save us were not going all out and just doing little things. However doing those little things may stop the OTA update if it's recognized that we are messing with our system files. Then we would need an SBF to go back to stock to get the OTA which we may or may not have. So then we will have to rely on a ROM that will work on our version of RAZR. At least with one official SBF for our own RAZR version we can always start at the beginning. I'm trying to keep my mods to a minimum so the OTA doesn't get broke but may be beyond that already, who knows.
Nitro said he had a ROM booting and that he'd post it on DroidRZR today, so.
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Im coming over to the photon from E4GT, tired of Samsung.
Anyway, Im confused about the most optimal route for flashing. I see bootstrap, unlocked bootloader stuff. I see a couple kernals, a couple roms....but then there is the OTA thing that will probably occur when I power on the phone. How will affect my rom set up? Why does flashing an ext 4 kernal break the wifi functionality? Why would anyone use bootstrapped method when the bootloader is now unlocked?
Idk, Im just a little photon newb, and I will probably told to go do more reading. But honestly I have such a headache from researching these phones (new sprint customer), dealing with my E4GT probalems....so if anyone feels like typing and introducing me to photon best practices, I will "thank" them.
Thanks guys
Root, Unlock with Pudding, Flash CWM, flash away.
What about that latest OTA? Will my phone alrdy have it?
Root, unlock, flash cwm 5, flash homebase 2.1 with 4.2 update. My phone has been flawless.
Unlock = loose 4g
Even if you get the latest ota the pudding flash takes you back, then whatever the ROM you flash its based on
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And welcome to the photon btw!
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Why use pudding instead of bootstrap?
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Why use pudding instead of bootstrap?
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Bootstrap is a waste of time.
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Just wondering, what problems did you have with your epic touch?
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Flashing issues with bootstrap, possible bricking, only really good for backups... My path for flashing was pudding unlock, root with one click root from shabby, fastboot clockwork onto your phone, then place the ROM of your choice on your phone via cwm... I'm running homebase 2.1 Deblur with update 4.2, and so far not a single problem. Just make sure you know what you are doing and read read read before doing anything. Any questions feel free to pm me or one of the other members and we can help you through everything!
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http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/25/2585820/motorola-droid-razr-source-code-released
Huh? Says "Motorola has been pretty good with the developer community in recent times, with a tool to unlock the bootloader available soon after the phone launched"
That can't be right, right? Also, says source code was released but not a peep of it on this board which is much more in tune with this stuff normally on whatever phone I've had (like 6 using custom roms, etc).
Anyone chime in on the bootloader / source code availability from Motorola and what this means towards GB/ICS development for the Droid Razr (VZW version specifically). Thanks,
Absolutely false. There isn't ANY tool to unlock the bootloader. It can't exist.
We need a NEW BOOTLOADER that will come with the damn ICS update.
kholk, your the expert here in this. I'm not to up on the bootloader thing but would like to know just a little bit so I can understand. Why is the ICS update so important for us to unlock the BL and why can't the current BL be worked on to try and find a way through? If an update can pushed to the phone that can unlock it why can't we kinda do the same. idunno, I probably sound stupid but that's cause I don't understand it I guess.
@kholk, thanks for the reply.
3 hours of reading on this tonight and another question...If VZW are the ones making Motorola keep the US version bootloader locked, what are we waiting to happen with ICS? Quite a few people I read have stated "bootloader will be unlocked with ICS"...but it's still up to VZW right?
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Why is the ICS update so important for us to unlock the BL and why can't the current BL be worked on to try and find a way through? If an update can pushed to the phone that can unlock it why can't we kinda do the same. idunno, I probably sound stupid but that's cause I don't understand it I guess.
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Our bootloader is encrypted and locked right now. The command to unlock it, moto-fastboot oem unlock, which is part of the bootloader, is disabled by Motorola currently, and they said that it won't be enabled until we get updated to ICS. The bootloader is encrypted and locked, so we can't edit it (if we could we'd have no reason to unlock it, mind you) and therefore we can't unlock it unless our update is signed by Motorola.
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/11/motorola-droid-razr-source-code-rolls-out/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/droidrazr.motorola/
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Honestly, nobody really cares about the source right now, because if ROM makers decide to test their work and it for some reason doesn't work, they have to get a new RAZR, as we have no SBF for restoring.
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Honestly, nobody really cares about the source right now, because if ROM makers decide to test their work and it for some reason doesn't work, they have to get a new RAZR, as we have no SBF for restoring.
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But Isn't recent leaked fastboot image allow us to restore the phone?
EU RAZR owners, yes. But it won't work for North American users, where most devs are stationed.
Maybe a GSM bootloader can be flashed on CDMA too. The AP bootloader won't absolutely use any part of the BP so this is safe.
The problem is about signatures. We should see if the VZW RAZR accepts the same signatures of the GSM one and it can happen since the GSM RAZR is recognized as "cdma_spyder".
Nothing sure, they can ever make a phone to be recognized as another but still to have different signatures.
We need the ICS update because it will include a new bootloader with the "oem unlock" function enabled.
If the device wasn't signed we could have enabled it on the current bootloader and flashing the cracked one.
Since we need to sign with Motorola's keys everything goes flashed on there, we can't.
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Honestly, nobody really cares about the source right now, because if ROM makers decide to test their work and it for some reason doesn't work, they have to get a new RAZR, as we have no SBF for restoring.
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Thanks for the hospitable response.
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guys it may a bit late but a bit of digging on sorceforge you will find that moto have placed the
Droid RAZR OSS source for 6.5.1-73_DHD-11_TA-3
this is only for the 4g phones so no luck for our globals yet
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Thanks for the hospitable response.
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Sorry. It was early in the morning and I was a little edgy.
And yeah, the source is labeled DROID RAZR, the international version is called Motorola RAZR. however... I believe they are cross compatible outside of the radio, so this is still useful.
I know they finally unlocked the Droid Bionic bootloader, but is there anybody working on unlocking the RAZR's? There aren't many devs for the RAZR, but surely somebody has to know how.
Check out this thread about the Bionic Bootloader if you're interested.
Motorola RAZR is recieving an update (still 2.3.5), however the bootloader (0A.67) is still locked. Flashing the FXZ won't update the bl, only OTA update will
The update for British RAZR is this:
SPDREM_U_01.6.5.1-73_SPU-11-M1-2_SIGNEuropeAustraliaEMEA_USASPDRRTGB_HWp2b_Service1FF_fastboot.xml.zip
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/umts_spyder/list.php
Also where Bionic BL was unlocked? I read it's sitll locked.
yes the droid bionic bootoader is still locked. he must off gotten confused with the off topic chat about unlocking the GNex at the thread he linked to.
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The CDMA version of the Spyder probably won't be unlocked.
If you want an unlockable one you should probably get the GSM one.
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Motorola RAZR is recieving an update (still 2.3.5), however the bootloader (0A.67) is still locked. Flashing the FXZ won't update the bl, only OTA update will
The update for British RAZR is this:
SPDREM_U_01.6.5.1-73_SPU-11-M1-2_SIGNEuropeAustraliaEMEA_USASPDRRTGB_HWp2b_Service1FF_fastboot.xml.zip
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/umts_spyder/list.php
Also where Bionic BL was unlocked? I read it's sitll locked.
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Pretty sure this dev got it to work. But with another method I believe, since he got overclocking to work.
This doesn't belong in development, FYI.
Additionally, read more before spreading misinformation. I've seen two posts by you today regarding the "unlocked bionic" and both of your sources mention nothing about it. Research more.
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Pretty sure this dev got it to work. But with another method I believe, since he got overclocking to work.
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Kernel can be modified using modules as well, this is completely unrelated.
I am moving this to General.
Please be careful when choosing the forum to ask/post anything.
Posting a non development thread in a development forum is subject to an infraction. Be careful.
Don't know if Bionic is still locked, but, I was stuck on 5.5.886 after FXZing from 5.5.893 leak that had a ton of bugs in it. Two days ago I followed a procedure and my Bionic is now on 5.7.893 , rooted, and able to receive and install the next OTA. Before this, it would NOT take ANY sys flash, rar, or OTA. Hope this means it's unlocked. I remember they said once you upgraded the radio / kernel it could not go back. But I think mine went back first because the last thing I did was load the OTA update, and when it rebooted it was smooth as silk running 5.7.893 and so far bug free not to mention with Launcher Pro it is Very fast.
Sigh....
The bionic is NOT unlocked.
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mistawolfe said:
Sigh....
The bionic is NOT unlocked.
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thanks for saving me a lot of time over in the bionic session.
So I finally rooted my Electrify(photon), I have insurance and **** and i've taken my phone scuba diving so I really dont care if I brick it at this point(just a reason for me to get a new phone).
Basically my question is, How can i go about getting an aftermarket ICS on it? I can use cynagon right? Someone link me please...? Can I use this? If so, What exactly is unlocking the bootloader?
Im still new at all the terminology, it's been forever since i've been in the Android dev scene....
Thanks a ton XDA!
-Chris
To flash CM9, or any unlocked ROM you need to install a custom recovery, usually clockworkmod. Idr about the electrify, but for the photon you need to flash the pudding unlocked file and run a few CMD lines in order to unlock the bootloader(kills 4g btw) and then you can install a custom recovery and be ready to flash unlocked ROMS. (same general process for electrifiy but iirc different files)IF you are on Android 2.3.5 your SOL.. For the time being atleast as you can't unlock its bootloader. QBKing has a few videos about the Photon on how to unlock, install CWM, and flash ROMS. There REALLY useful for beginners and people who need to be refreshed on what exactly to do. Don't quote me on the exact steps as I have a Photon and never looked too in depth about the electrify, wait for someone else to chime in to verify or search around.
You were a lot of help so far, and yes I am running stock 2.3.5...I installed cwm, but I have yet to unlock the boot loader, and as you stated, I don't think I'll be doing that anytime soon. But what exactly does unlocking the bootloader do...?
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My understanding is this...
Photon and Electrify 2.3.4 can unlock the bootloader.
Photon 2.3.5 can run something called bootstrap. (There is no legit Photon 2.3.5 from Sprint, but some bleeding-edge MoPho's have flashed 2.3.5 anyway and found themselves in a world of pain.)
Electrify 2.3.5 can do neither. I asked about it here and as of now 143 people have looked at it but haven't replied... Then again, it's the weekend, but I also asked in a topic about the bootstrap a week ago, and nobody there knew either.
So I think with Electrify 2.3.5 rooting is all you can do.
And that's fine, Electrify is beast anyway.
We're supposed to get official ICS in Q2 2012 (or was it Q3?). I don't know fiscal quarters, but Q1 starts in Spring, I think, so I guess summer or late summer?
I don't care about ICS and I don't see why I should. I change launchers weekly and I'm always rotating software on my phone. I'm more interested in getting the bootloader unlocked, but I don't think Motorola has any plans for that.
While it's true you can't unlock the bootloader on 2.3.5 yet, that means that you can't flash kernels and some roms. There are some that work with a locked bootloader. Loki has an Imperium version. Rocko has some versions for locked phones. And there is this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1575259 from loki. It will strip the bloat and blur from your phone, and give it some tweaks. This with the launcher of your choice makes for a great phone.
Exactly what post above said. I'll just add on saying that without an unlocked bootloader there is no way to get ICS. Use locked roms and try different launchers and you can still have a sweet phone until official ics or we unlock 2.3.5
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What is blur and bloat?? And what ROM is best..? As far as locked boot loaders go...
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Crispy, Blur is Motorola's enhancement suite for Android. It contains Motorola Home, and all the Motorola apps like the gallery, music player, and widgets. And the stupid lock screen. (I hate Motorola's lock screen. A lot.) HTC's is called Sense and Samsung's is called TouchWiz. They all have one. Very few Android phones are straight-up Android.
Bloat is anything on top of AOSP (Android Open Source Project) and the Google apps. This includes Blur/Sense/TouchWiz, technically, though most don't consider those bloat. If you have US Cellular, City ID is the epitome of bloat. It doesn't work as advertised, it's always there, and it will nag you to pay for it sometimes. Bloat on US Cellular phones also includes Tone Room Deluxe, Your Navigator Deluxe, My Contacts Backup, and the QuickOffice demo. Sprint has a whole other set of bloat apps.
Bricky -- So I don't need bootstrap? Or I do?
Crispy again: On your home screen, hit Menu, Settings, and then About Phone. Near the bottom look for "Android version". If it says 2.3.4 below, you can unlock your bootloader. If it says 2.3.5, you cannot.
I know ha, and I'm on 2.3.5 just like youuu:/ but it appears that there are like someee rom's that can be used without unlocking the bootloader...
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Yes you need bootstrap. Root your phone, install bootstrap, make nandroid backup in bootstrap , install rom = profit
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bricky23 said:
Yes you need bootstrap. Root your phone, install bootstrap, make nandroid backup in bootstrap , install rom = profit
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You need an UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER to install a ROM my friend....There are a few decent ROM's that dont require an UL loader, but to get a really nice ROM an unlocked bootloader appears to be greatly needed. I really wish Moto wasn't such a giant douche.
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You were a lot of help so far, and yes I am running stock 2.3.5...I installed cwm, but I have yet to unlock the boot loader, and as you stated, I don't think I'll be doing that anytime soon. But what exactly does unlocking the bootloader do...?
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You have cwm installed on a 2.3.5 Electrify with a locked bl??
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You have cwm installed on a 2.3.5 Electrify with a locked bl??
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Im sure he's meaning bootstrap in that post.. you can't install custom recovery while locked..
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Im sure he's meaning bootstrap in that post.. you can't install custom recovery while locked..
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Yes, I ment bootstrap.
Also, how does nandroid backups work? Does it backup EVERYTHING? whats the difference in outcome with Titanium backup VS recovery nandroid backups...?
i really want ics on my electrify.. but i ve a electgrify 2.3.5 with locked bootloader..
is it possible to do it?
I run AOKP build 38 on my mopho, it's a little buggy. My advice is to run one of the slimmed down stock ROMS mentioned previously. Wait for the official build, then there will be a bunch of devs making perfectly tuned apps.
Universal DeBlur-DeBloat Live ROM Conversion is the only ROM that requires root ONLY. It was written to help those that can't even run bootstrap. Think of it as Imperium Initiative without the theme change and custom kernel.
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I run AOKP build 38 on my mopho, it's a little buggy. My advice is to run one of the slimmed down stock ROMS mentioned previously. Wait for the official build, then there will be a bunch of devs making perfectly tuned apps.
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ICS is official announcied from motorola to moto electrify?
No, only Photon.
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No, only Photon.
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it s a bad notice :S
developers are working to unlock the BL of lectrify
Okay. I have a Motorola Photon on the sprint service. luckily l was able to successfully root it, but since my version is 2.3.5 (I'm guessing that's the problem) is there NO way to downgrade /unlock bootloader/ install a custom rom? I've googled and read all the guides and I don't really understand if I'm screwed or what.... some clarification would be helpful!
P'S: I've included a screen shot of my phone info
Yes at 2.3.5, u cannot unlock the bootloader. It is tightly shut by motorola. U either can flash safestrap or wait for kexec development to finish. Apparently this phone is collecting dust as i am following the kexec thread. I have japanese photon though. Isw11m
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Well, I downloaded and installed a bootstrap program on this phone. (Called System Recovery ) and it gives me access to a CWM recovery screen.
does that mean I can finally install roms or will it brick my phone if I attempt?
Be carefull, only flash rooms for locked bootloader.
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Alright. thank you for the help. =]