I read that after using rooting Odin method, the rom is place in internal memory (internal sdcard) of the android phone, while in superone click the rom is place in external SD card.
I'm kinda confuse which one is the correct placement for flashing rom?
It's always best to place it in the internal memory of your phone, no matter how you root it. c:
Anything you want to flash via clockworkmod recovery, place it in your internal memory.
theexel said:
It's always best to place it in the internal memory of your phone, no matter how you root it. c:
Anything you want to flash via clockworkmod recovery, place it in your internal memory.
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some users recommend me to wipe data and format system before flashing a new rom.
if i place my new rom in the internal memory, wouldnt that delete the rom file?
souleater11 said:
some users recommend me to wipe data and format system before flashing a new rom.
if i place my new rom in the internal memory, wouldnt that delete the rom file?
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Wipe data/factory reset is recommended.
It only wipes the actual android OS information, not your internal memory.
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To flash a ROM from this forum, the instructions say download the ROM and push to SD card.
Would I be right in saying that I do not need to use my PC to do this, ie
- download from an internet browser on my phone
- use a file management app to move the files to the sd card on the phone?
I get the impression it needs to be done using your PC but don't understand why.
I think that they're just stressing out that the file (ROM, for this instance) has to be in the root folder of the SD card. You can do it any way you like. You can get the file via bluetooth from another phone, etc. What matters is that it's in the SD card root directory, because the custom recovery only looks for it there.
Yep, you are right. A pc is completely unnecessary for the pure flashing process.
In the guides they tell you to push the zipped package to the sd just cos you should have formatted the sd before. If you know what you are doing you can also download the zip from the phone, moving to the root, rebooting in recovery and flash.
I guess if you didn't partition or format your sd card or have second sd card that store the rom's zip file, no need for computer to transfer the file.
Great, that's what I thought.
Now to sort that 'void' ROM I'm been meaning to do
What do these bits actually mean, or more importantly, how do I do it?:
Partition SDcard (swap: 0, ext: 512), convert to ext3, then ext4
Wipe everything (data, cache, dalvik-cache, ext, android_secure)
Bennji said:
What do these bits actually mean, or more importantly, how do I do it?:
Partition SDcard (swap: 0, ext: 512), convert to ext3, then ext4
Wipe everything (data, cache, dalvik-cache, ext, android_secure)
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You have to get a custom recovery installed
kpbotbot said:
You have to get a custom recovery installed
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If I have (and I do have) do I not need to worry about them instructions and just go for the flashing bit?
Bennji said:
If I have (and I do have) do I not need to worry about them instructions and just go for the flashing bit?
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Oh I see, that's one of the options in custom recovery, I'm starting to get this now(a bit)
You only need to create an ext partition when your ROM comes with Darktremor Apps2sd, which, I believe, is on most of the ROMs.
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You only need to create an ext partition when your ROM comes with Darktremor Apps2sd, which, I believe, is on most of the ROMs.
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Thanks for your help
Hi xda,
I'm not a typical android user and this was one of my firsts in messing around with my Tab 10.1. I have GTP7500 which I recently loaded up with CM10 and it's working fine except for the camera. Leave that and what I was going to say is that I'd like to remove my entire Internal Storage ( all the downloads, music, videos ) and stuff, i.e, like formatting the sd card. I'd like to know a way to format the internal storage of my Tab without affecting the system files as I don't want to create any troubles here. So, my questions are:-
1. Whether I can delete all the stuff shown inside the internal storage from my PC directly and would it affect the system? I cannot see any format option when I connect my tab to my PC so, I was hoping if I could manually delete all the files inside the storage and then doing a factory reset from cwm and installing the rom once again?
2. Or is there any app to do this?
3. Or if it is quite simple to do it the hard way, well, entering the fastboot and wiping the whole system (Read it somewhere before) and installing all the stuff again, then please do tell me that too. Otherwise, I'd go with the easy method, i.e, just format the internal storage.
Also, what about the format /sdcard option in the mounts and storages menu in CWM? I'm using CWM 5.5.0.4.
I think doing the "format /sdcard" in CWM should do what you are looking for as I have done that in the past. I would also temporarily back up the /sdcard contents onto your computer as a precaution in case an app was depending on any folders there, but I think it should be fine.
Thanks but still...
astrojo3 said:
I think doing the "format /sdcard" in CWM should do what you are looking for as I have done that in the past. I would also temporarily back up the /sdcard contents onto your computer as a precaution in case an app was depending on any folders there, but I think it should be fine.
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Thanks for the quick reply. But would it remove other stuff including the boot files and other core files of Android? I've somewhere seen similar posts and whom did the format /sdcard but they proclaimed they lost whole files and had to do bootloader and install cwm and other stuff all over again to gain access. I've already managed to do format the sd card while installing the ICS official ROM for my tab but I did that via Samsung's recovery menu, i.e, one you get when installing their official ROMs and did a factory reset which erased all my internal storage files. But the same option won't remove internal storage in cwm. So, is format /sdcard the option to do this? I'd be glad to get a clear answer.
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Thanks for the quick reply. But would it remove other stuff including the boot files and other core files of Android? I've somewhere seen similar posts and whom did the format /sdcard but they proclaimed they lost whole files and had to do bootloader and install cwm and other stuff all over again to gain access. I've already managed to do format the sd card while installing the ICS official ROM for my tab but I did that via Samsung's recovery menu, i.e, one you get when installing their official ROMs and did a factory reset which erased all my internal storage files. But the same option won't remove internal storage in cwm. So, is format /sdcard the option to do this? I'd be glad to get a clear answer.
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Yep, format sdcard in CWM. It will only wipe the data stored there. Your bootloaders and ROM will remain unaffected, however I would still backup the sdcard to your computer before doing this just in case.
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Yep, format sdcard in CWM. It will only wipe the data stored there. Your bootloaders and ROM will remain unaffected, however I would still backup the sdcard to your computer before doing this just in case.
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I was wondering about this, too. Thanks for helping!
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The method above does work. However, if you really want to wipe the whole device completely clean, using Odin to flash stock firmware will blow it all out and make you factory-fresh in one operation.
Hi.
In the following topic, regarding Android Revolution HD 30.1:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38495361&postcount=13120
it mentions that a full format of system, preload and internal SD is required.
What would be left on my device afterwards? would the recovery still be installed in order to flash the new ROM ?
I understand that 4.2.1 leak doesn't contain any modem, would I have to install a modem afterwards?
Thanks.
lioryb said:
Hi.
In the following topic, regarding Android Revolution HD 30.1:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38495361&postcount=13120
it mentions that a full format of system, preload and internal SD is required.
What would be left on my device afterwards? would the recovery still be installed in order to flash the new ROM ?
I understand that 4.2.1 leak doesn't contain any modem, would I have to install a modem afterwards?
Thanks.
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Your recovery will be intact, what you do need to do is backup your internal sd to external and/or pc, and make sure the Rom you want to flash is on your external sd!
As a foot note....I personally find this good practise, to do, at least once in a while as sd rubbish can cause problems, and I always format system before a Rom change, irrespective of what I'm changing to/from
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Your recovery will be intact, what you do need to do is backup your internal sd to external and/or pc, and make sure the Rom you want to flash is on your external sd!
As a foot note....I personally find this good practise, to do, at least once in a while as sd rubbish can cause problems, and I always format system before a Rom change, irrespective of what I'm changing to/from
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Thanks.
Should I remove my external SD while doing all this format things, and put it back just for the installation?
What about the Modem? would I have to install a modem seperately?
I never do, just make sure in recovery you select the right sd to format, nandroid and titanium backup also, as always
slaphead20 said:
I never do, just make sure in recovery you select the right sd to format, nandroid and titanium backup also, as always
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what about the modem issue? would I have to install it seperately?
Thanks again.
I do believe modem is either a separate partition or always comes in a Rom, but regardless, flashing a modem takes 30 seconds so it's not a problem
I have to much junk and empty folders on the phone. I tried format through CWM, format system, cache, data, emmc...everything is still there. I want to clean (as in new) my internal storage.
Does "factory reset" does that, or is it just for deleting any 'personal' data (pics, files) etc?
Thanks.
Wipe data/factory reset only wipes the data partition. What you want is to format the internal sdcard. Go to Settings | Storage and select "Format SD card."
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Wipe data/factory reset only wipes the data partition. What you want is to format the internal sdcard. Go to Settings | Storage and select "Format SD card."
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Thanks.
Will I then be able to boot into recovery, or CWM will no longer be there and I'll have to use ODIN?
Also, am I losing ROOT when doing that?
No. No. No.
You can format the root files from CWM recovery. You said you tried that and it didn't do what you want.
Formating the internal sdcard will remove all your personal files from the phone, including pictures and any other files and directories you have created. If that's not what you want to do, then don't format the internal sdcard.
Formating the internal sdcard will not touch the system, kernel, data partition or any other root files. You will not lose root. So yes you will be able to boot into cwm recovery, or even into whatever system you have installed after formating the internal sdcard.
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Thanks.
Will I then be able to boot into recovery, or CWM will no longer be there and I'll have to use ODIN?
Also, am I losing ROOT when doing that?
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Common sense, make a backup (meaning copy and save your personal info to somewhere else first, you can delete them later if you really don't need them).
Also, adding to what creepy has said, be sure "SD card" is your internal storage, not external uSD.
I suggest you removing the external uSD card first, just in case.
The reason I said so because with CwMR and Task's AOKP, format SD card is formatting the external uSD card, while "format /emmc" will be do the internal one.
Just precaution.
Thank you both.
Yes, I already 'discovered' that formatting SD Card in CWM formats the external ...luckily I didn't have anything important there.
I still don't get it though. Looks like we are talking about two different things.
I have my internal storage fully backed up. I want to wipe it clean, as in a PC Format. Is there a way to do that, or can I simply remove empty folders in file explorer? Too much junk has been collected there in a year and a half of many custom roms and different apps that I tried and removed.
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Thank you both.
Yes, I already 'discovered' that formatting SD Card in CWM formats the external ...luckily I didn't have anything important there.
I still don't get it though. Looks like we are talking about two different things.
I have my internal storage fully backed up. I want to wipe it clean, as in a PC Format. Is there a way to do that, or can I simply remove empty folders in file explorer? Too much junk has been collected there in a year and a half of many custom roms and different apps that I tried and removed.
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Refer to 2nd post. Your internal storage has 2 partitions. One is where all the system data is, and the other is where all the personal data is (where apps install to). If you do what's written in the 2nd post, it will completely wipe clean the personal partition.
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Refer to 2nd post. Your internal storage has 2 partitions. One is where all the system data is, and the other is where all the personal data is (where apps install to). If you do what's written in the 2nd post, it will completely wipe clean the personal partition.
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Will I still be able to access CWM and install custom rom from Ext SD?
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Will I still be able to access CWM and install custom rom from Ext SD?
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Yes, formatting internal sd card (doesn't matter which partition) does not touch either of those.
I want to remove files that have accumulated from other roms. In others words like stock, but with custom rom. I like Beanstown106 with SD swap.
Thats a little tricky with sd swap but you will have to painstakingly go file by file and see if it's something you have deleted to something that you are still using. If you have any apps that created a folder and are gone for good then you are safe to delete. But avoid any system app folders and anything that you are still using like pictures, music and so on avoid.
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thx for help
I'm installing cleanrom ace 4.9 my goto rom next to beanstown106. No SD swap and I was thinking of formating SD card. Now how do I erase what a factory reset won't delete.
I usually wipe EVErYTahING wenever i flash something new sd card and all just to start from scratch but all i got on sd card is pix and music so its easyily backed up
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now how do I erase what a factory reset won't delete.
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from recovery, format internal and external sd. that will wipe everything out completely.
I did consider formating from recovery. I'm just scare of deleting the OS and my phone ending up being useless. I did research and what I read it won't. Any advise is welcome THX to everyone.
SAPPERJD said:
I did consider formating from recovery. I'm just scare of deleting the OS and my phone ending up being useless. I did research and what I read it won't. Any advise is welcome THX to everyone.
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How would it end up being useless? Its no different than a pc...your reformatting and installing the OS on a clean slate.
I was thinking if I formated the internal it would delete recovery as well. And had no way of installing a new rom. Thx again really help full.
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from recovery, format internal and external sd. that will wipe everything out completely.
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I want to clean up my directory structure. If I format the internal and external sd using recovery (TWRP) to wipe everything, what rom will boot? Will my custom rom boot or will the original verizon rom boot? Will I have to unlock the bootloader again? Thanks.
rechbo said:
I want to clean up my directory structure. If I format the internal and external sd using recovery (TWRP) to wipe everything, what rom will boot? Will my custom rom boot or will the original verizon rom boot? Will I have to unlock the bootloader again? Thanks.
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you will lose all data and need to reflash the rom in recovery...no you will not have to unlock again, nothing performed from recovery will overwrite the boot.img.
I was scared of the losing my OS as well, but it's not that hard. Treat it as two steps. Formatting your sDCard, and then prepping your SdCard by doing a Nandroid backup to your SdCard, and copying a flashable ROM (and kernel if your ROM does not flash a kernel) to your SdCard. Before formatting your SdCard copy anything you want to keep to your computer. I just copy the whole card to my computer.
Reboot and do your data resets and wipes, including internal storage (format data in twrp) Then flash your ROM that you put on your ext SdCard. Your nandroid backup is your insurance. Worst case you boot into recovery and restore your backup.
(But you should still have a working toolkit or ADB on your computer and you can recover from any screw up)
As long as you have what you need on your (ext) SdCard before wiping internal storage, and you only do a data reset and cache wipes and only do 'format data' you will be fine.
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