Bluetooth lacks full duplex function? - Motorola Droid RAZR

Everytime i use a bt headset when the other part talk to me and i try to speak at the same time they can' t hear me. Today i made a test: i asked my wife to count from one to ten and i did the same together. Althought i was able to hear her, she wasn't able to hear me! I tried four different headsets and the problem is common. Sorry for my bad english.

Are you using cheap BT headsets? I have my Jawbone and its works fine with no issues. If you have the money for 4 different headsets, i would get rid of them and buy the jaw bone or another higher end BT headset. also in my car, i have a pioneer BT120. full nav, BT music streaming and phone calls. no issues with that either.

tsourisg said:
Everytime i use a bt headset when the other part talk to me and i try to speak at the same time they can' t hear me. Today i made a test: i asked my wife to count from one to ten and i did the same together. Althought i was able to hear her, she wasn't able to hear me! I tried four different headsets and the problem is common. Sorry for my bad english.
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Same problem with Parrot ck3000 EVO (lastest v5.25 firmware), but only if i start a call via voice command (with green button on handsfree remote). If i start call manually from phone microphone works without problem

unclearthought said:
Are you using cheap BT headsets? I have my Jawbone and its works fine with no issues. If you have the money for 4 different headsets, i would get rid of them and buy the jaw bone or another higher end BT headset. also in my car, i have a pioneer BT120. full nav, BT music streaming and phone calls. no issues with that either.
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Three different plantronics models and the other one is ford car bt system!

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Bluetooth Stereo Headset

Hi,
I am looking for a bluetooth stereo headset. Where can i find one
which is good sound output , reliable and long batt life. I want to be able
to listen to mp3's and calls thru my XDAIIs.
Any ideas?
http://www.blueant.com.au/
Wow, a bit pricey. Do you have 1st hand experience with this device? The reason that I am asking is that tha xda II / III's have traditionally had bad bluetooth reception. Before I dish out 300 bucks I would want to make sure that it did not suffer from the same bluetooth static that the headsets are having with the xda's.
Raptor
rick83 said:
Hi,
I am looking for a bluetooth stereo headset. Where can i find one
which is good sound output , reliable and long batt life. I want to be able
to listen to mp3's and calls thru my XDAIIs.
Any ideas?
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I tried many bluetooth stereo headset, and wasted hell of money on trying many of them, considering the bad bluetooth reception of the PDA2K, the best bluetooth stereo headseat works with it is motorola HS820 it works well within the range of 1 to 1.5 meters from the PDA2K.
"6 talking hours - 100 hours stand by".
I'm still waiting for the up-grade which was promissed to be developed to improve the performance of PDA2K's bluetooth reception.
I'm still waiting for the up-grade which was promissed to be developed to improve the performance of PDA2K's bluetooth reception
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Don't worry, I talked with the live chat on iMates site and they asured me that the bluetooth issue would be resoved soon.
Now that was 6 months ago and 2 ROM updates, I am still holding my breath....
The Motorola HS820 isn't a STEREO bluetooth headset, but I agree that it's one of the better regular bluetooth headsets for the phone. I also bought the Motorola HS850, which is the update to the 820. The bluetooth performance was definitely better than the 820's performance but I ended up giving it back anyway because the volume is too low for me.
bluetooth stereo headset
don't buy this product. http://www.blueant.com.au/. I called up the guy to enquiry this product. AT first, they did not include HP IPAQ 6365 in the list of compatibility. After I talked to him, they claimed it was working properly but they did not money into their mouth so the next day, they included as part of the list of compatibilty.
second, the guy also told me that it did not include a dongle which can support A2P2 therefore it will not work for HP IPAQ 6365 as it did not have A2P2 software hence it will not answer phone call and listen to MPEQ music in stereo manner.
bluetooth stereo headset
don't buy this product. http://www.blueant.com.au/. I called up the guy to enquiry this product. AT first, they did not include HP IPAQ 6365 in the list of compatibility. After I talked to him, they claimed it was working properly but they did not money into their mouth so the next day, they included as part of the list of compatibilty.
second, the guy also told me that it did not include a dongle which can support A2P2 therefore it will not work for HP IPAQ 6365 as it did not have A2P2 software hence it will not answer phone call and listen to MPEQ music in stereo manner.
aragorn121 said:
The Motorola HS820 isn't a STEREO bluetooth headset, but I agree that it's one of the better regular bluetooth headsets for the phone. I also bought the Motorola HS850, which is the update to the 820. The bluetooth performance was definitely better than the 820's performance but I ended up giving it back anyway because the volume is too low for me.
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The Motorola HS820's volume is not low for me, but I do receive some complains "sometimes" from the other parties saying that my voice is low and they ask me to raise my voice, but some other times it works fine.
Hold on....
Are you guys talking about headset or handsfree?
So far I understand hs-850 is a handsfree bluetooth (not a headset bluetooth).
Correct me if I am wrong.
Arto.
I'm ordering these:
http://www.sonorix.com/eng/product/product_obh0110.php
wamatt said:
I'm ordering these:
http://www.sonorix.com/eng/product/product_obh0110.php
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So, how did they work?
cchris said:
wamatt said:
I'm ordering these:
http://www.sonorix.com/eng/product/product_obh0110.php
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So, how did they work?
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They waiting for me at home, (I'm currently in the US) so I will let you know next week.
Well I'm listening to The Killers over HQ A2DP stereo
I had to use the BT hack stack here to get it working.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=15671&highlight=stereo+headset
I have paired the handsfree profile as well. The problem is however the handsfree is not working very. Also the pause and stop buttons don't work with WMP10.
Will post updates if I get any other stuff working.
I just got the Zonet ZUB8100 from Newegg -- only $120 after rebate (which ended yesterday). Works very well as stereo headpnones with my SX66, not so well as a voice headset. You can connect the BA to it in both A2DP and handsfree profiles simultaneously, so it should be possible to answer the phone while listening to music. No caller ID, AFAICT -- well for $120 you can't expect perfection
There's no mic boom, so the mic is in the left earpiece, a bit too far from your mouth. That in combination with the standard headset issues with the BA results in quite a bit of static and the person on the other end barely able to hear you.
Well guys, I dont recommend the Sonorix or infact any BT Stereo headset unless you like pain.
They are a peice of crap.. wasted $150 dollars Sad
Sound is muddy and they not very comfortable. (Granted I'm used to my Sennheiser HD500's). Not to mention it takes ages of fiddling to get A2DP working and then it doesnt work well.
I think Bluetooth is a waste of time. When Bluetooth2 comes out and is properly supported i might give it a second chance.
In the meantime I'm going to use these instead:
http://www.seidio.com/index_products_pda2k_headset.htm
I bought the Motorola HT 820. Works pretty good for answering phone and stereo music on sx66 after some bluetooth updating and adding profile. Not too comfy but tolerable for $89--took a couple of weeks to arrive.
Haven't used them for prolonged periods but they work for a couple of hours at a time.

Switching between 2 BT Headsets

I have a Jawbone and a HT820. I find it difficult to get my 8525 to recoginse a different headset when switching from listening to music on my HT820 to my Jawbone for driving.
Anyone have any tricks on how to manage the 2 BT headset routine?
I've been trying this yesterday with no luck. I am going to work on this again tonight and will let you know.
cbg )
This doesn't answer your question, but along the same lines, is it possible to set up the jawbone to get all the 8525's audio over the earpiece? I've got a jawbone paired with the unit, but the normal audio is still piped through the speaker.
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This doesn't answer your question, but along the same lines, is it possible to set up the jawbone to get all the 8525's audio over the earpiece? I've got a jawbone paired with the unit, but the normal audio is still piped through the speaker.
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Yes there is a fix. I think it is in the Hermes(general) forum the fix does wipe out any usage of M$ VC though.
angrymaxima said:
I've been trying this yesterday with no luck. I am going to work on this again tonight and will let you know.
cbg )
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Are you on rom 2.06? Is it the rom? Because the 8525 only wants to connect to the BT device on the top of the list. It is a real pain.

Bluetooth headsets Compatiblity!!!

Okay, I'm not trying to reinvent the will. I'm curious thought, what are some good compatible bluetooth headsets for HTC TC? What are the bad ones? ....using Murato Radio and Original Rom!!!! Or any other radio/Rom combo!
I have seen a post on headsets/stereo music/phone thread. But not one with a specific list of compatible headsets.
I'm asking because I'm trying to figure out if my brand new (one week old) device have a bad bluetooth problem or do I need another headset. Currently using Plantronics Voyager 510, and I cant go 3 feet without it getting choppy and static, sound quality is f**k*d up!!!!
So I will post first: Plantronics Voyager 510 ....NOPE!!
Just be sure and purchase from a place that allows returns if you're not happy with them. Find some you like on your own.
Kenjari said:
Okay, I'm not trying to reinvent the will. I'm curious thought, what are some good compatible bluetooth headsets for HTC TC? What are the bad ones? ....using Murato Radio and Original Rom!!!! Or any other radio/Rom combo!
I have seen a post on headsets/stereo music/phone thread. But not one with a specific list of compatible headsets.
I'm asking because I'm trying to figure out if my brand new (one week old) device have a bad bluetooth problem or do I need another headset. Currently using Plantronics Voyager 510, and I cant go 3 feet without it getting choppy and static, sound quality is f**k*d up!!!!
So I will post first: Plantronics Voyager 510 ....NOPE!!
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Jabra JX10 Series II: Works well
I love my Jabra BT620S
well i have a Plantronics Voyager 510 and have been using it first with Artemis and now with Polaris and i have to say its THE BEST heatset i have ever used (and there have been many!)
good up to 15m and sound perfect.... you have something wrong either with the headset you have or your Polaris
I'm currently using Philips SHB9000. At first signt, it pairs but no headset icons on the top bar (which means all the sound goes through the speakerphone).
Using BTAudio, sound gets redirected to the headset (still no headset icon) but quality is awful, using HomeScreen PlusPlus UI A2DP option the icon appears and sound is incredibly good.
I was using Murata radio/udK R8 when I bought it one week ago. Changing radio or ROM did not change anything so either it is OS or headset related.
Regarding your choppy sound, try this method (especially for Plantronics Voyager 510) : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2533699&postcount=13, this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2533699&postcount=14 and this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1317007&postcount=18
The_Steph
Thanks for the resource everyone. I appreciate the response and the help.
I purchased the Plantronics Discovery 655, and guess what? The exact same thing is happening. I still get choppy reception at times.
though I have noticed it is slightly better then the previous headset. And people who I'm tallking to say that I sound alot more clearer.
My conclusion, now, my phone has a bad radio. Either the bluetooth hardware is jacked...or my radio is horrible.
What do you guys think?
BTW i purchased it from a website and I didnt get any warranty on it.
So I called HTC and complained about my bluetooth connection. The lady (valerie) told me that as long as it works, they are not interested in the quality of the connection. After complaining a little more, I ended with the conclusion that I have to test alot of headsets until I find the right one. So to add to this thread:
Good connection will be defined as, "clear crispy hearing on both ends, no static and choppy sounds, and the ability to walk away at most 6 feet (maybe 3 meters) from the phone and still maintain sound quality connection with the phone: Good connection".
So those who have post already with their headset, can you repost to determine if you have "Good connection". My only purpose for this is to purchase this time the "right" headset instead of numerous returns to the store to find the perfect one.
Jabra JX10 series II
Jabra BT6210S
Phillip SHB9000
Do all of these fit the Good Connection definition?
Thanks for all who have post. I truly appreciate your help. You are helping me save money and time!!!!
Yes, JX10 series II: Good connection (FYI, not sure about the series I, as there are some firmware changes that happened.)
I think I can say that Phillip SHB9000 has out-of-the-box a fairly good connection (did not test the 3 meters test yet and had natively choppy sound before the registry modification) with my TC.
After the reg modification it has a good connection (still did not checked the 3 meters connection but I never get disconnected), but it can't be compared to the 2 Jabras at it is really dedicated to listening to music (covers almost all your ears). It is the first time I'm buying that type of headset and it is really a different world than usual headsets (intra auricular or in-ear). The sound is clear and all details are present.
The only drawback compared to the other is obviously the size...
BTW, disconnection problem with Jabra headsets could be solved by HTC official Bluetooth fixes (as one has been especially made for them) and BT disconnection is also relying to the ROM version.
The_Steph
Jabra BT8040
I use the Jabra BT8040. It has as major advantage that it not only supports the handsfree profile, but also wireless 'stereo' (A2DP), so I'm able to listen to music on the headset too.
thanks muyz
after applying the patches from HTC's website, my Jabra BT500 works pretty good. the issues before were addressed and it works fine now as a hands free in the car headset.
i have tested it while walking and talking and something strange i've never encountered: crackling noise. it's as if i was on a wired set with bad wires. as soon as i stop moving, the connection is back to normal. strange. this is why i said it's great for in car connection since the phone and your head will stay relatively static.
looking for a new headset myself actually.
Hi,
I'm using the Jabra BT3030 which also support A2DP for my music listening. After I applied the bluetooth fix from the htc website it's working flawlessly, with no loss of connection as it did before the patch. Very happy with it.
what does the Jabra BT3030 look like? Is it jus the dog tag thing...or is it also wired or wireless plugins? Can you take a quick pic and upload?
Thanks
I tried looking online and I only see the tag piece...is that it?
i'm using Jabra BT620s - work's perfect
i had just some break's in stereo while running in traffic (maybe caused by other BT devices from cars?) - so I changed A2DP setting in SKTools and now it's perfect
strongly recomend
slightly off topic, but what are the registry hacks people keep mentioning
I have 8 cruises for my company's engineers and all of them are moaning about the carkit connections. We have applied the hot fixes and they are still generally rubbish
a selection of the carkits ;
nokia ck 7w
motorola HF 850
focus c-max bluetooth in car
Auidi bluetooth in car
various jabra headsets
motorola HS 800
Keeps cutting out. poor/ tinny sounding, mine (Moto hf 850) makes outgoing calls ok (sometimes) but takes about 15 seconds to hear voice of othter caller on incoming
???????????
Cheers
Knobby
Anyone ? this phone is pants, great pda tho
…and for the HBH-DS980 ?
I have a Jabra X10 Serie II, but I want a HBH-DS980.
Is there someone who know if it works with Polaris ?
I mean, every function of the headset [playlist, list contacts, etc…].
Thanks for your feedback.
It doesn't work fully with anything, its pants !
and even when it does work fully ... it stops working when it feels like it !
bloody irrational. must be female

Recommended Bluetooth Headset for Tilt 2

Can anyone recommend a good BT headset for the Tilt 2? I currently have a BlueAnt Z9i, but it does not work with the phone. I've used 3 different ROMs and a number of radios, and the phone has never been able to pair with the headset.
So, can someone please recommend a good replacement headset for me?
I am currently using this ROM (build 21892):
|R|6.5.5|ROM|WWE| ★ Energy "Leo" 23542/21892 |Mar 5| ★ Sense 2.5.2012 / MaxManila ★
I just need great reception, answer/hang up button on headset, and volume controls (optional).
Thanks!
I currently use an insignia model number ns-bthdp and it has been a great headset I specially like the fact that it doubles as stereo headphones
makaveli92627 said:
I currently use an insignia model number ns-bthdp and it has been a great headset I specially like the fact that it doubles as stereo headphones
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Thanks for the suggestion. It doesn't look too bad. However, I am really looking for a regular (mono, one ear) headset - unless I can find a stereo model that would allow me to detach the stereo component when not in use.
kcrumbley said:
Thanks for the suggestion. It doesn't look too bad. However, I am really looking for a regular (mono, one ear) headset - unless I can find a stereo model that would allow me to detach the stereo component when not in use.
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The plantronics Voyager 855 will do that...it's a BT stereo headset but you can disconnect the 2nd earbud and just use it like a regular headset too. I haven't used one, but I do have another plantronics BT headset (stereo only) that pairs just fine with my TP2
sirphunkee said:
The plantronics Voyager 855 will do that...it's a BT stereo headset but you can disconnect the 2nd earbud and just use it like a regular headset too. I haven't used one, but I do have another plantronics BT headset (stereo only) that pairs just fine with my TP2
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Oh wow, I'll take a look at that one now.
Does anyone have any experience with the Motorola H17?
Motorola H17
After reading all of the reviews and watching tons of videos, I have decided on the Motorola H17.
I will post a review in a few weeks a put a link up here for those who are interested.
Thanks for all of your help!
kcrumbley said:
Can anyone recommend a good BT headset for the Tilt 2? I currently have a BlueAnt Z9i, but it does not work with the phone. I've used 3 different ROMs and a number of radios, and the phone has never been able to pair with the headset.
So, can someone please recommend a good replacement headset for me?
I am currently using this ROM (build 21892):
|R|6.5.5|ROM|WWE| ★ Energy "Leo" 23542/21892 |Mar 5| ★ Sense 2.5.2012 / MaxManila ★
I just need great reception, answer/hang up button on headset, and volume controls (optional).
Thanks!
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Odd. I'm using the the same zAnt headset with my stock T-Mobile ROM. It works great.
stevedebi said:
Odd. I'm using the the same zAnt headset with my stock T-Mobile ROM. It works great.
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I figured it was new enough to work with a new phone, but I can't even get the phone to see the headset at all.
I even paired it with my old (almost 5 years!) Motorola H3 this morning, as a temporary fix and it found the headset right away!
I've had a Jawbone ICON for a while now, it works great with the tilt 2.
Do any of your BTs have a working mute button on the device? I am surprised that almost none of the BTs on the market have a mute button. I thought the whole purpose of BT was so that you could pocket the phone and still make and take calls. But if I can't mute from the headset then it defeats the purpose for me. I am aware that many people probably never mute their phone calls. But those of us who use our devices for business purposes, mute is a requirement for conference calls.
Ive got a Nokia BH-103. Its a good headset, but i havnt used it with my TP2 yet.
Mute
The Moto H715 works with the tilt 2... You can mute the calls by pressing both Volume buttons.. I am pretty sure most headsets can mute a call, just need to see what butons need to be pressed
blackberry hs-655+, best BT headset i have used. So light you dont even know you have it on, has its own cradle that also vibrates when a phone call is coming in so if you have it in your pocket and your phone at your desk of something, you will feel the headset vibrating
A vibrating headset on my ear would likely freak me out every time it happened. LOL!
Invisio
Invisio G5. Great headseat, I have blown through many now, and this one is super comfortable, great sound quality, and the charging pack is an awesome feature.
BlueAnt Z9i and other headsets
kcrumbley said:
Can anyone recommend a good BT headset for the Tilt 2? I currently have a BlueAnt Z9i, but it does not work with the phone. I've used 3 different ROMs and a number of radios, and the phone has never been able to pair with the headset.
So, can someone please recommend a good replacement headset for me?
I am currently using this ROM (build 21892):
I just need great reception, answer/hang up button on headset, and volume controls (optional).
Thanks!
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I have a BlueAnt Z9i and it works just fine with my Tilt 2 with the stock ROM. It paired first try and activates voice command, answers and hangs up. The volume controls work fine too.
My other headset is a Plantronics 510. It is old school, but it also works just fine. Folks say this one sounds better.
The BlueAnt is more comfortable, has better noise reduction and is capable of higher earpiece volume.
The Plantronics, with the foam thingie, is better in the wind and sounds better to folks on the other end.
YMMV, FWIW, My 2 cents.
geoffr said:
I have a BlueAnt Z9i and it works just fine with my Tilt 2 with the stock ROM. It paired first try and activates voice command, answers and hangs up. The volume controls work fine too.
My other headset is a Plantronics 510. It is old school, but it also works just fine. Folks say this one sounds better.
The BlueAnt is more comfortable, has better noise reduction and is capable of higher earpiece volume.
The Plantronics, with the foam thingie, is better in the wind and sounds better to folks on the other end.
YMMV, FWIW, My 2 cents.
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Thanks for your reply. You are the second person to tell me that they successfully paired a Z9i with the Tilt 2. I don't know what the problem is, but I am able to pair the headset with other phones, and I can pair the phone with other headsets.
I went with the Motorola H17, but the connection kept dropping so I returned it for another unit.
I'll say this, it is not a solution by any stretch of the imagination, but sometimes $0.02 counts. I have had strange behavior with my Moto S9 using the rom you outlined. The sound is often choppy and I cannot figure out why. As far as my H715 goes I have had no issues. Are you having this issue specifically with NRG roms or are the three roms you tried from different chefs and potentially using different BT drivers etc.?
aadadams said:
I'll say this, it is not a solution by any stretch of the imagination, but sometimes $0.02 counts. I have had strange behavior with my Moto S9 using the rom you outlined. The sound is often choppy and I cannot figure out why. As far as my H715 goes I have had no issues. Are you having this issue specifically with NRG roms or are the three roms you tried from different chefs and potentially using different BT drivers etc.?
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Thanks for the input, it is definitely appreciated. I used the stock ROM, then the Leo Cell EVO ROM, and now the NRG ROM with the same results on each one.
It's really weird because my 5 year old headset pairs and works fine with the phone. It's just too large to wear for long periods of time (and the sound isn't great either).
kcrumbley said:
Thanks for the input, it is definitely appreciated. I used the stock ROM, then the Leo Cell EVO ROM, and now the NRG ROM with the same results on each one.
It's really weird because my 5 year old headset pairs and works fine with the phone. It's just too large to wear for long periods of time (and the sound isn't great either).
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Honestly, I think the oddball Widcomm bluetooth stack in the TP2 is one of it's biggest achilles heels...it doesn't seem to be able to give consistent performance across a single unit, let alone across the entire production line.
I think it's to blame for a number of issus that defy normal troubleshooting (like the one you're seeing now), as well as extremely high level of batt drain whenever you connect to/with anything via BT

[Q] Voice-calls over aux out in active car charger

I recently purchased the official Samsung Active Holder for my SGS2. Nicely routed the charging cable, then bought a kit to hook up the aux-out of the SGS2-charger to my radio. NICE! Music from my SGS2 through my radio while in the charger! Navigation-instructions as well!
Problem: Voicecalls still play through the phone-speaker :-( (can't hear a damn thing of what the other is saying when going 150 eehrmz 100 Km/h)
Searched somehwat, and several people reported this for several phones, however it seems the problems/solutions are phone-specific as well.
Does anyone know how to get the phonecalls routed through the AUX-out of the charger as well, just like all other audio of the phone?
Does your car have Bluetooth? If so then pair your phone, use bt for voice calls and aux for the rest.
Not sure if Bluetooth affects what happens through aux though...
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yamanote said:
Does your car have Bluetooth? If so then pair your phone, use bt for voice calls and aux for the rest.
Not sure if Bluetooth affects what happens through aux though...
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Unfortunately: No. Used a special box to emulate a cd-charger on my old Renault Tunerlist radio, to get a double tulip in... Bluetooth was just one leap too far ;-)
Ah, I guess I'm just too spoiled with my car's A2DP streaming audio
Maybe you can get one of these?
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-HF800-Bluetooth-Portable-Speaker/dp/B0002F7I9E
Or something like that. Pair your phone, slap it on your visor and use that for calls.
That one's just an example, there's a huge selection of these bluetooth car speakers.

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