Hey guys. So I got a GTab 10.1 when it came out in June but ended up returning it cause Honeycomb felt slow and laggy, and as many would say, not ready for primetime. Since then, I've also tried the HTC Flyer, which I ended up returning due to lack of apps since its running Gingerbread so it only has like a tiny subset of the hundred Honeycomb apps.
Overall I didn't have a a good experience with Android tablets so I turned to iOS. I've never owned any iOS devices before and recently got an iPad 2 as my first. I like how I can type on it with all my fingers like it was a full sized keyboard on the smart cover typing angle. I use it for mostly couch potato style web browsing, reading news apps, and watching videos. The lack of flash is also quite annoying (I ordered dominos and got the wrong toppings lol).
With the recent Touchwiz on the GTab 10.1, I am revisiting this forum to see if I should make the switch back to Android. Particularly interested to hear if any of the problems still exist.
Is the keyboard lag when typing in the browser still there, after Touchwiz?
I am able to type with all my fingers like a full sized keyboard on the iPad. I forgot to try this when I owned the GTab. Does anyone do this, and is the GTab's keyboard able to pick up fast typing on its multi-touch keyboard? I know the GTab keyboard has multi-touch but I don't remember how smooth it is.
Anyone with experience with jailbroken iOS devices, does in-app purchases work with apps from Cydia? I just want to know the accessibilty of apps on both platforms.
Anyone with experience on these two tablets, got any recommendations on which one I should stick with? Thanks for your time.
TouchWiz comes with Swype. While I never likes Swype on my phone, it works great on the Tab. Who would have thought?
There's no lag.
TabGuy said:
TouchWiz comes with Swype. While I never likes Swype on my phone, it works great on the Tab. Who would have thought?
There's no lag.
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I am not really a fan of Swype, like the touch typing more. I've seen a video on Swype but I rather be using all that real estate for all finger typing like a real keyboard. What about the regular keyboard, no lag for that as well?
trees812 said:
I am not really a fan of Swype, like the touch typing more. I've seen a video on Swype but I rather be using all that real estate for all finger typing like a real keyboard. What about the regular keyboard, no lag for that as well?
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I must say that I agree with you. However, I'm amazed at how useful Swype is on the Tab. I'm a fast touch typist and have found that Swype, while not as fast, is very useful. It's especially useful in a "lean back" scenario where you don't have a table to set it on for two handed typing.
The biggest difference between the iPad and Android is that you get a choice. When you get to a screen where input is required and the keyboard pops up, you have that little keyboard icon in the notification area. In only a few seconds you can choose the appropriate input method for the given scenario. I have 7 keyboards installed and use some of them frequently and some none at all. I almost never use the stock Android keyboard which, by the way, resembles the iPad's keyboard the most.
With iPad there's no choice. With Android it's up to you.
I am seriously thinking of getting an Lumia 920, but one thing I worry I would miss leaving Android is custom keyboards, specifically AI Swiftkey. Anyone been down this path before? How does Lumia keyboard compare?
Thanks!
It's not too shabby as compared to the stock Android keyboard, but Swiftkey (and Swype) are way better, IMHO. One of things you will miss moving from Android is the choice of keyboards. One thing that really annoys me is not having numbers and punctuation marks on the main keyboard (need to press another key to get those symbols up).
I have to agree...I just came from sgs3 and only thing I dislike is the kb For wp8
jivy26 said:
I have to agree...I just came from sgs3 and only thing I dislike is the kb For wp8
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+1, I really miss swype. Also, not too sure if it's possible, but right now my Lumia doesn't have haptic feedback on keypress, which bugs me a lot too, especially if I'm typing and not swyping or using word prediction.
No fix for this
The keyboard issue is one of the 3 or 4 things that will probably cause me to turn the Lumia in this week. I didn't realize how dependent I had become on those freakin arrow keys. When you type as bad as I do, those things are a blessing.
If a more capable keyboard is a big deal for you, go Android.
I haven't had any issues with the keyboard. I can still type super fast and don't have to worry about the Swype feature. I came from the gs3 as well, but don't mind not having all those keyboards that may or may not work faster.
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I have also used both, never really got used to swape though .. the predictive keyboard and the machanisms it uses to determine the next-pressed-letter is very good and I actually hardly ever have any typing problems neither in German or English layout.
WP8 even predicts the follow-up word and I have come to notice that this seems to get better over time and actually saves a lot of typing alltogether
Keyboard is not a huge issue but you do misses having the option to pick keyboards which suit you. However wp8 stock keyboard is not bad I quite like it, auto correction Is not bad at all.
I came from swiftkey on sgs3, and i havent lost any typing speed really. The WP Keyboard is quite good.
Came from Note II and GS3 where I used both swype and swiftkey - no problems at all. My typing speed not changed at all - I think its because of better touch screen/keyboard accuracy. For me, WP8 keyboard is ok, but I want to able use punctuation symbols by long-press (and to setup it in milliseconds)
Hello
Im wondering if there are any modern (2014-2015) Android phones with a physical QWERTY keyboard.
Havent been able to see any, I dont care if they are chinese ones even.
Nothing????
I haven't seen one. The ones that are still available through carriers (and there aren't many) are 2-3 years old in specs.
No. Most have gone pure touch screen. The only recent device I have even seen with a keyboard is a blackberry. The days of keyboards are dead I'm sad to say
Nope.
The last major android qwerty out was the LG Optimus F3q in 2014. Its specs was more like 2013 though.
Nothing even on any manufacturer's plan for 2015 and after.
BlackBerry will be your only choice for modern specs qwerty smartphones. But no more from android or any other OS.
I have a NEC Terrain (late 2013).
I looked at the F3Q which is newer but I thought the NEC Terrain was still better.
The bad part= NEC is out of the cel phone business and no one has managed to root the phone yet.
The god news= you can get one fairly cheap.
I need the physical keyboard and I am hoping something comes up before my phone becomes too outdated.
This is quite the growing issue, physical keyboards are infinitely more convenient, faster, more accurate than those touchscreen things.
I'm currently using a droid4 which is the best ever.
My next phone will have to be a touchscreen only device I'm afraid.
But I've been looking into bluetooth keyboard which may solve your issue.
You are asking for an android phone with physical qwerty keyboard.
The answer is that nearly any android phone with bluetooth will support a bluetooth keyboard.
The only thing you should than focus on is a phone with a good enough battery that allows you to have bluetooth on for extended periods of time.
Also, finding a cellphone wallet where both the phone and the keyboard fit in is a challenge.
I'm personally thinking that I may have to produce one myself.
Shouldn't be too hard, buy one from China for my new cell, rip out the plastic insert thing and paste it on a wider case/wallet, the keyboard can also be easily pasted on.
Edit: You may also want to wait for project ara whereas you possibly will be able to stick on a slide-out keyboard.
I have been looking for a tablet for myself. Mostly, for note/lectures taking and reading. And also for remote connections to Linux machines, when I'm at the beach for example.
When I first saw it, I immediately understood that I had to have it. I bought Android version through Lenovo website. Windows just doesn't make sense to me on this device, it is not powerful enough, and it is a tablet! It is not supposed to replace a laptop. I don't find Windows apps ecosystem as good for mobile devices, as Android.
Waited about a week. Was very excited, when I finally got a package (yeah, I know, I'm a grown-up baby ). And, unfortunately, was disappointed right out of the box. The screen was defective (I even posted it here, lol): uneven color temperature to such level, that I cannot stand. But, I decided to give it a try anyways.
1. Hardware is impressive. Tablet looks fantastic. Sound is very good for the device of this size. I'm still blown away by a case itself. I liked the hinge, and how you can easily transform the tablet.
2. Halo keyboard looks futuristic. And it is OK for typing. I saw many reviews heavily criticizing it, but it is fine. Yes, you cannot type as fast, as on the mechanical keyboard, but it is still much faster than on the on-screen keyboard. Well, touchpad is bad and doesn't support multi-touch (though manual suggests it does), but I actually don't think one needs a touchpad on Android, so I don't complain here.
3. Drawing and note-taking on the Wacom surface is reliable and was a good experience for me. It is a little bit awkward in the beginning to physically write not directly on top of the area where image appears, but it is very easy to get used to. No buttons on the pen though.
4. Atom CPU is more than enough, device felt very responsive overall. However, I did notice it stuttered while charging, probably due to thermal throttling. But on battery I didn't notice any performance issues with the apps I used.
5. Now comes a weak part. Software.
I liked the taskbar, it is nice and useful, but overall, stock software feels like it is a beta version, and it is very basic (to say the least). Especially Lenovo apps (including note-taking). Well, not a real minus, since there are good apps in Google Store. But Lenovo Android customizations definitely need polishing.
Multi-window is almost useless, you cannot resize apps, but only have a smartphone-like size. And in windowed mode apps very often crash (I actually don't remember, when was the last time anything crashed on my Nexus 5, but I root-customized it...).
Some settings simply don't work: no matter what you do, it resets itself back to the default value. For some reason, I couldn't select my Google account as a backup account... Encryption is enabled by default, and you cannot disable it (it actually resulted in a factory reset, see below). Transition animations constantly turned on/off by themselves. And manual is simply inconsistent with the actual software.
I didn't find an easy way to switch Halo keyboard languages.
No customization for note-taking app: every time you switch to Wacom input mode, annoying Lenovo note-taking small window appears, and you have to close it in order to continue drawing in your app.
I had a nasty experience with an update. While updating everything seemed normal, but on the final boot I got a message "Encryption failed. Your tablet will be factory reset". And, yep, I got a completely fresh system, but it was updated. :good: And since there was no option to use my Google account for backup, I had to reinstall and reconfigure everything again. :silly:
Taking all that into account with my initial hardware problem, I just decided to return my YogaBook. I should say, it does feel sad a little bit as it is a very unique device. Honestly, I really wanted to love this device. But it definitely needs polishing, and if you're not a gadget enthusiast, you probably should wait for the next version.
disagree in all points
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Hanfried said:
disagree in all points
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Sure. Do you disagree on all points or only on negative ones?
I really wanted to love this device. Well, I'm returning mine anyways because of the screen issue. I went with my YogaBook to BestBuy and compared it to other tablets, and yep, even Samsung Tab A 10.1'' has a better screen than my tablet. This is definitely unacceptable.
I'm not 100% sure though, if I should just return it or actually do an exchange. But I'm returning, because in this case, if I change my mind, I can purchase a new one (hopefully, without screen defects) (effectively do an "exchange").
If you could be so kind, and point out to me how to fix these software glitches, I would really appreciate it.
couldnt agree more. I personally contacted lenovo in order to return the yoga book too. so disappointed. I think they should have installed Chromebook OS
BTW, I also had the problem with the upgrade and I had to reset everything...
Just curious . . . .
Don't you think the problems will be solved with updates? It is a new product after all. :silly:
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Don't you think the problems will be solved with updates? It is a new product after all. :silly:
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Maybe. That's why I say one should wait for another version.
I have bought Samsung Galaxy Tab A 10.1 with S Pen, and this tablet actually performs much better than YogaBook, despite lower specs. Moreover, it actually feels much more comfortable to write directly on the screen.
I just got mine in uae and despite its flaws i really love this device because of the battery life, sound, display and the wacom stylus. Sure the halo keyboard needs some more work but otherwise it works as intended. Just waiting for someone to make a remix os for this.
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Maybe. That's why I say one should wait for another version.
I have bought Samsung Galaxy Tab A 10.1 with S Pen, and this tablet actually performs much better than YogaBook, despite lower specs. Moreover, it actually feels much more comfortable to write directly on the screen.
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I pulled the trigger and am going to give it a try. The biggest selling point for me is being able to take notes on paper and pen and then have handwriting recognition do its magic.
Also, there is "Any Pen" support for writing directly on the screen. Though it is not perfect, it should be enough for me.
Admittedly, I am still not 100% convinced and I will let you know how it goes when I get my hands on it.
i picked one up at last friday, i wanted a light decent 10 inch android tablet for mostly browsing, evernote and messing on, the keyboard is a compromise but suits my needs, if im going to do a large amount of typing ill do it on my desktop pc, I personally really like it overall but I just hope they bring Nougat to it so we can atleast have the 2 window option, other than that i lowered the dpi because it was far too high for me, and hopefully we get root soon so i can force chrome to always display desktop sites, as mobile sites on a 10 inch tablet is stupid.
oh i also wish you could scroll easily with the trackpad but i guess thats an Android limitation.
Yeah true that really need that nougat. Has anyone tried installing remix os on their yoga book?
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Yeah true that really need that nougat. Has anyone tried installing remix os on their yoga book?
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I ůove this device so much but i must totaly agree that Lenovo should agree with jide and Remix OS should be preinstalled as the lenovo modified android realy sucks and is inmature... BTW i am intersted in same Did anyone?
I love it, you have to get used to it
Got mine few days ago.
I love it.
It takes some adjusting of workflows, but it is new, it is different, it is astonishing! Those are the reasons I bought it!.
HINGE IS MIND BLOWING!!!
Coming from range of tablets (Samsung 7" once upon a time, 10.1 Samsung, Xperia tablet z...) and many phones from different manufacturers, keeping just glass/glass as lite motiv (iPhone 4,xperia z1, S6 edge, S7 edge) I confirm it is different!
Missing lot of Samsung staf, missing lot of IOS stuff, but who cares. Playstore can provide all needed apps for my life/work stile.
It is little bit havy, looking at you keybd, but it has a keybd. For others I had to buy separate one. Halo is not a PC (Mak) keybd, but tablet is not a PC nor Mak. This just works It would be nice to change halo keybd (what you can see) but I can live with German layout I've got, just installed swift and off we go!
The only thing that is a real problem is waterproofing! I was so happy reading in a hot bath! When Experia started leaking it really hurts!
If someone knows about waterproof light case for yoga, please, pretty please let me know!
Everything else will solve it self out, root, android 7.... Just have some patience. XDA always brought a solution. For doubtful - check HTC HD forums...I forgot about my 2 phones, but development is still kicking!
Just that waterproofing IP 68 anybody?
P.S. You can swipe with mousepad, in android, just not 2 finger like manual is promissing.
I got mine today and I love it, but there are things (mostly software) that are bafflingly annoying... I got this device with the idea I could utilize Netflix's offline downloading feature only to find out it's not compatible... wtf... fail...
I got mine about three weeks ago and I'm quite happy with it. I "forgot" my work laptop in my office before Xmas and I was able to survive with my Yogabook (LTE version) so far. Android MS Office apps work sufficiently well for me. VPN and Citrix Terminal Client do their job. I only use my apps in full window mode because the task bar does the job for me. Yes, it's very basic but ok for me.
I had a lot of stability issues in the beginning. I figured out that most of the apps were installed on the 128 GB sd card by default. After moving all (no exceptions) apps to internal storage, there were no crashes anymore. I already used this solution for another Android device with lots of crashes.
It took a while to get used to the keyboard but it is possible to do 10 finger typing at medium speed after some training. I just had to switch off the word completion feature because it began to drive me crazy.
After watching some Youtube videos from an artist who uses his Yogabook as a professional drawing device, I even became motivated to try it out myself. Before I just used the pen to take some notes in Evernote. It's actually quite some fun to use it for drawing and I had to buy the add-on stuff of the ArtFlow app.
Yes, it's annoying that it is not possible to download stuff to the tablet via the Netflix app. Amazon, Spotify, and Maxdome download content works well, however, in offline mode. The HDMI output to an HD TV or a projector looks good, too. Both for video streaming and Powerpoint presentations.
In summary, I'm quite happy with it ... even as an unplanned replacement for my work laptop ...
the drawing surface work with other apps or just the lenovo drawing app? for example Adobe sketch
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the drawing surface work with other apps or just the lenovo drawing app? for example Adobe sketch
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It works great with Sketchbook, Infinite Painter, Layer Paint. However somehow most brushes do not work with Corel painter.
I personally find drawing on Yogabook to be more responsive and less alggy than compared to my Samsung 10.1 2014.
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It works great with Sketchbook, Infinite Painter, Layer Paint. However somehow most brushes do not work with Corel painter.
I personally find drawing on Yogabook to be more responsive and less alggy than compared to my Samsung 10.1 2014.
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I used so far without issues: ArtFlow and ArtRage for Drawing, Evernote and Lenovo Note Taker for handwritten notes, Ez PDF for annotating pdf documents.
For my purposes, the pen is very accurate and responsive. In ArtFlow the pen pressure dependent line thickness and color intensity work very well.
Small addition. It survived nasti drop from table height in the office, rough terrain (PC, table legs, chair legs).
Ugly dent in metal and some scratches. That is a drawback of metal build! Glass glass will shater or survive without evidence.
BUT IT WORKS no problem at all!
Stupid question
How to @ on the Halo keyboard?
Shift + @