everyone knows that using 3g as opposed to 4g when u have a choice saves a significant amount of battery life. but i read somewhere that it's possible to set your phone to use 4g ONLY as opposed to 4G + 3G if 4g isnt avil.
For people like me who live in LA, 4g is almost everywhere. That same article said that if you go with 4G only, the battery life used is almost similar to 3G only, since it's not constantly looking for both 3g/4g signals. can anyone confirm this?
i use an app called "LTE OnOff" And it 1 click takes you to a screen of options between:
1. 4g only
2. 4g & 3g (CDMA)
3. 3g (CDMA)
There's also *#*#4636#*#* for those who don't want to use an app to access the menu.
I just put mine in LTE mode with voice. I am gonna see how that is tomorrow.
I posted this app in a couple other threads. You will still incur the same battery drain with 4G+Voice as you do with 4G/3g.
oh wow okay, so then that option is pretty much useless... theres no real advantage to going 4g only i guess...
thanks for clearing that up, much appreciated.
on a side note, is a true that using launchers increases battery life roughly 20% or so?
im considering going with go launcher ex
I paid for ADW Launcher EX when I had my X2. I haven't taken the leap because I enjoy Sense right now. Someone else may be in your shoes though. Let us know in a couple days if you see a difference.
I have several times switched to 3G only on days when I was out all day in an effort to increase battery life. I saw NO improvement on 3G only. I still saw 1-2% lost per hour in standby.
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everyone knows that using 3g as opposed to 4g when u have a choice saves a significant amount of battery life. but i read somewhere that it's possible to set your phone to use 4g ONLY as opposed to 4G + 3G if 4g isnt avil.
For people like me who live in LA, 4g is almost everywhere. That same article said that if you go with 4G only, the battery life used is almost similar to 3G only, since it's not constantly looking for both 3g/4g signals. can anyone confirm this?
i use an app called "LTE OnOff" And it 1 click takes you to a screen of options between:
1. 4g only
2. 4g & 3g (CDMA)
3. 3g (CDMA)
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I have that app but I have different options.
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I also have been using LTE onoff. All I use is LTE w/ voice. I gain about 4 hours of stand bye by using either LTE or CDMA compared to LTE/CDMA.
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I also have been using LTE onoff. All I use is LTE w/ voice. I gain about 4 hours of stand bye by using either LTE or CDMA compared to LTE/CDMA.
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I also have been using LTE onoff. All I use is LTE w/ voice. I gain about 4 hours of stand bye by using either LTE or CDMA compared to LTE/CDMA.
are you sure? because couple posts up, AtLemacks says:
I posted this app in a couple other threads. You will still incur the same battery drain with 4G+Voice as you do with 4G/3g.
You can always try the free version of juice defender, that may help.
Nope juice defender doesn't really seem to help either. As an experiment, I put my phone in airplane mode, off the charger, overnight one night while I slept. I STILL lost an average of 1-2% battery per hour.
It's weird though, the first 10%, from 100 down to 90%, will drain very slow. Once it gets past 90%, it drops rapidly, even in standby, regardless if I'm on 3G only or LTE/Voice or data off it doesn't matter.
I don't see the problem with leaving it on 3g/4g I only saw a battery drain problem when switching between both. being in a solid 4g area, I am amazed at standby time. It seems to almost not move. The phone will never standby completely lossless. 1-2% an hour? That is not bad at all. That is over 3 days. I've done 3g stuff, 4g stuff... Never noticed a difference. Big users... GPS. then netflix streaming. But those make sense because more is on, and netflix is full bore usage.
Even then, I go through 30% in an hour of streaming.
Obviously you're never going to have no battery drain on a device that is powered on because it constantly requires power to keep data in the RAM (unless NVRAM is used). 1-2% drop isn't bad at all, that's probably the least you're going to achieve.
my Incredible on a 1500 mah battery (stock EVO battery), running a leaned stock group ROM and Chad's incredikernel would lose 1% every 2-3 hours in stand by. If I needed to stretch it I would turn data off and go 4 hours before dropping a percent. I don't understand why this phone drains so much in standby even with data off. With the phone on and doing stuff on 4g sure, I never expected the battery to last like my Inc, but 2% an hour in standby with data off sucks.
I would hope that w/ 4G+3G, the phone would really have the LTE radio on for data and the 1xRTT radio on for voice, and only fire-up the EV-DO radio if LTE drops out.
With LTE+Voice, the phone probably does the same basic thing, since Vzw doesn't have VoLTE yet. So LTE radio on and 1xRTT radio on. So the only difference between the two is probably if LTE drops out, instead of firing up the EV-DO radio, you got stuck with 1xRTT for data. So if you're in a strong LTE area, you probably won't notice a difference between the two.
Although this is just a huge guess on my part.
My old MT4G when in airplane mode (and no apps installed) ran over 24 hours and only dropped 1%
I did this as an experiment as I knew I was selling the phone to my cousin the next day. It dropped the 1% after I handed it to him and he was messing with it.
All the phone had was CM7 and a good (non cyanogen) under-volt kernel that defaulted to a governor that had a screen off profile built in. It had been factory reset as well. A good ROM and kernel really helps, this just goes to show you where the real power drains are.
What this tells me is that these phones have the potential to have great standby time but for the radio and account syncing. (and any poorly written apps that cause the phone to enter an awake state too much) That is one reason that I am excited about the new S4 chips that have all the radios built in. That should help power consumption from the radio in general and even more when the phone is idle an not transmitting.
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I bought myself and my wife a TB on launch day (yes I love being a guinea pig), and there are no 4G covered areas anywhere near here (all 3G). Both phones were properly charged after being activated and before being tested. My own phone was unplugged yesterday morning when I arrived at work at around 7:30 am and it finally died at midnight with light to moderate use (some phone calls, texting, web surfing, downloading apps, one hour of listening to music with double twist app and jogging with cardio trainer app)., Today my phone has been unplugged for five and a half hours and it's down to 80%. My wife is getting about the same battery life from her TB.
We knew from earlier reports that this phone lasted only about four hours running 4G LTE, and even WiMax running on Evo gave it terrible battery life, so I'm not entirely surprised that there are are still problems with this phone regarding battery life and 4G. I am almost relieved that I don't live in an area that has 4G at the moment.
Just to clear the air, I'm hoping that other TB owners who do not live in a 4G area will share their experiences with battery life so we know that this is mainly a 4G issue and not entirely a TB issue, and hopefully if that is the case, we can get a push for a 4G toggle until this issue is resolved.
Same here
I am getting better battery life out of this phone than I was on my Eris on GSB 2.0. I am very surprised. I use WiFi at home and that seems to really help but out in 3g....it really is quite good. I haven't had it in a 4g area so I can't compare but I have no complaints.
Even in a 4G area you can turn off LTE and get better battery life. I made a shortcut to the phone setting using anycut.apk to make a short cut to phone info. Got this from another thread on the forum. Works great.
My battery lasted 12 hours yesterday with what I would consider heavy use. An hour of gaming, 2 hours of pandora, about an hour of voice calls and checking facebook throughout the day. I'm very pleased with battery life. I was on wifi most of that time though and there is no 4g in my area.
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Happy with battery life so far
So far my experience has been quite favorable. I have been using my phone quite a bit, navigator, text, browsing, games, fm radio (we really like that) and frankly the gloom and doom reports fortunately haven't come true for me. I am easily seeing 9+ hours.
I have had a couple of nasty freeze-ups while on the phone. The first one sent the phone on its own reboot, the second required the battery to be pulled (good night that is a challenge) since the screen and the buttons became unresponsive. I will have to watch that - a phone has to work as a phone or well, it is a mini tablet instead of a phone.
first full charge last night, off the charging this morning, after 10 hours of uptime unplugged, which included a few phone calls, facebooking, playing around for about 30-45 mins on games, i was still at 81%.
This is far better battery life than my evo ever was(until i rooted it and had CM7, was getting 3 days a charge then.) And if it says anything, it isn't rooted yet(working on that now) so I am very happy and impressed with the phone so far...
and as for a previous post. I was unaware that you could turn off 4G/LTE at all. My understanding was it was always on no matter what.
Agreed. When the TB is not switching from 3g to 4g. Battery is good
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@sympathy wtf bro there is no such thing as getting 3 days worth of a charge on an EVO 4G unless u have like a 5000 mah battery? do u ?
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@sympathy wtf bro there is no such thing as getting 3 days worth of a charge on an EVO 4G unless u have like a 5000 mah battery? do u ?
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He is running a custom rom that likely dramatically governs the processor and other power factors. It was the primary reason I rooted my Incredible as the custom kernel I got had me go from 10% at the end of a 16 hr day in standby to about 80% remaining. So I could totally see 3days of light to no use from the EVO with a custom ROM.
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He is running a custom rom that likely dramatically governs the processor and other power factors. It was the primary reason I rooted my Incredible as the custom kernel I got had me go from 10% at the end of a 16 hr day in standby to about 80% remaining. So I could totally see 3days of light to no use from the EVO with a custom ROM.
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yeah that is pretty much it.
CM7 is very very light, and also had SetCPU to down clock the processor to 245Mhz anytime the screen was off. It was also on the stock battery too. I have no idea what I could have gotten with an extended battery. That 3 days wasn't practical, but I made it happen non the less to shove it in a friend of mines face who kept his iPhone 4. I had an iPhone 4 and left it for the Evo, and he got mad about it.
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if you look at the bottom you can see the screen was very seldom on, I always had wifi off, gps off, and 4G off. Phone was still at like 9% i think to when I took that screen shot. I could have gone longer but my phone is my alarm clock and I had to be up the next morning and needed to go to bed. Stupid jobs and having to work. haha.
After a couple of charge cycles I must say that I am very satisfied with the battery life on my Thunderbolt. I was at work the other day for 12 hours and the phone was at 35 percent when I left.
I agree. The Evo has terrible battery life out of the box but with CM7 and proper tweaks for it's settings, you can get pretty good battery life, even using a stock battery.
Considering that the battery for TB is a lot better out of the box than the Evo, at least for those in non-4G areas, I can only imagine how great it will be running CM7
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I agree. The Evo has terrible battery life out of the box but with CM7 and proper tweaks for it's settings, you can get pretty good battery life, even using a stock battery.
Considering that the battery for TB is a lot better out of the box than the Evo, at least for those in non-4G areas, I can only imagine how great it will be running CM7
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the only thing that bothers me about it, and someone please chime in if I have no idea what I am talking about, is after pulling up quadrant and just looking at the info for my system, it showed my processor on my TB as running at 245Mhz at that moment, and capable of running at 1024Mhz.
I could be wrong but I thought the evo ran at 998Mhz right out the box and didn't change clock speeds.
So if this is the reason why battery life has been so much better out of the box, hopefully we can still make a gigantic improvement.
I currently have a droid charge. It has a vastly superior screen compared to the thunderbolt, and a better gpu. However on standby, it destroys it's battery. I'm talking around 10% per hour just on standby. I was wondering what standby was like on your phones. Htc has been pretty good about this in the past and I may jump ship to the thunderbolt just for the ability for my phone to be there after a day of doing nothing. Thanks in advance.
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I currently have a droid charge. It has a vastly superior screen compared to the thunderbolt, and a better gpu. However on standby, it destroys it's battery. I'm talking around 10% per hour just on standby. I was wondering what standby was like on your phones. Htc has been pretty good about this in the past and I may jump ship to the thunderbolt just for the ability for my phone to be there after a day of doing nothing. Thanks in advance.
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It depends on several factors in my experience. Network coverage: are you on 3g or 4g? If 4G, how many apps are using it? If 3G, how weak is the signal? System settings: does the kernel throttle down the CPU with screen off?
I've had respectable experience with 3 HTC's recently; the dInc, dInc2, and the Tbolt. In my opinion, the dInc2 is what EVERY HTC should aspire to be. Completely lag-free, never a force-close, beautiful, biright, and color-honest screen, power to run any app, and better than useful battery life. I'm talking standby measured in days and talk time upwards of 6 hours or better. The Tbolt seems to dump about 5% to 6% per hour standby on LTE. Half that on CDMA. You might also want to theme everything on your phone as dark as possible. white text on black if you can find it. That screen will actually eat more power to produce the same brightness of white as a Super LCD. However, to produce the same brightness of red, it will consume around half the power. I've also noticed on my Tbolt that the Idle Process is eating a lot more power than i think it should and I'm not sure what to do about that... like around a third of the battery over 10 hours.
Thanks, I should clarify. This is actually happening on 3g with a strong signal. I rarely use 4g at all actually. I use an app that sets the phone to conservative cpu usage. I'm using juice defender and I'm hoping that will make a difference.
Really it all depends on a combination of what rom/kernel/radio your using, your coverage and your settings. Turn off assisted dialing, tell HTC, and phone finder as they tend to eat up alot of juice in standby. In install everything you don't use with titanium backup pro, including backup assistant, tell HTC, stocks, news etc... Turn all your sync acts to 4 hours or more, use auto brightness for screen brightness. Etc...
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Thanks, I should clarify. This is actually happening on 3g with a strong signal. I rarely use 4g at all actually. I use an app that sets the phone to conservative cpu usage. I'm using juice defender and I'm hoping that will make a difference.
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wow..... That's insane.... If you don't need the phone at night, I'd kill the radio and let it sit over night. It should use next to no power then. If it is, there's something quirky in the ROM or apps.
Yeah, compared to all the other android phones I've ever used, on the Droid Charge the os battery usage is pretty high. I don't really keep anything running in the background and even try to go with dark wallpapers seeing how it's super amoled+. No dice, it just sits in my pocket and dies. When I plot my batter use, it looks like I was talking on the phone. I find it kind of absurd that some phones allow you to talk on them for almost the same amount of time I can be on standby with this one. How long can the Thunderbolt last on standby. What are you guys averaging per hour on idle in terms of battery usage.
I usually go from 100%->84% overnight which is around 7 hours, so I'm losing ~2.3% per hour.
I keep 4G and background sync enabled. Currently running CM7 1.4 with Tiamat 1.0.4 undervolted.
Wow. I burn almost 10% per hour on standby with an undervolted conservatively governed phone on 3g. I'm really considering jumping ship. I'm willing to have an inferior screen and gpu if I can just have a phone that can last a day in my pocket.
i get around 10-15% drain per hour myself when my Thunderbolt isn't in use(even if i turn off mobile data and/or use something like juice defender).
heck, and just watching 1 movie on this thing kills like 50-60% of the battery.
i say phones just suck!(battery)
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i get around 10-15% drain per hour myself when my Thunderbolt isn't in use(even if i turn off mobile data and/or use something like juice defender).
heck, and just watching 1 movie on this thing kills like 50-60% of the battery.
i say phones just suck!(battery)
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This is from last night, heavy use through out the day. You need to check your settings or change your rom/kernel/radio you should not be getting that kind of drainage.
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Wow, that's freaking amazing! I could never get that kind of battery life on my charge. Looks like I'll be picking up a thunderbolt tonight. What is your setup?
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Wow, that's freaking amazing! I could never get that kind of battery life on my charge. Looks like I'll be picking up a thunderbolt tonight. What is your setup?
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Gingeritis 3d beta 6, Chingys new radio leak and ziggys kernel (kernel comes with beta 6). No Oc or any tinkering with kernel, just settings in the phone for as little batt drain as possible. 3g and wifi when its available. I only use 4g if I need to dl something big like a rom and I don't have wifi available.
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Well, I ordered my Thunderbolt today. I should hopefully have it by Wednesday since I ordered it so late in the day. I'm really hoping for a phone that doesn't commit suicide in my pocket while on standby.
Its all guna depend on your phone/batt/rom/kernel/radio and settings my friend
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I really don't have a problem not enabling 4g unless I need it. Interestingly enough, when I looked at the specs of the thunderbolt and the charge side by side, the charge is rated for a longer talk time, but the thunderbolt is rated for a longer standby time, even though the charge has a substantially larger battery.
For battery life with the Tbolt my standby was always at 58% or more in 4G area. Until I installed "2x Battery" from the market and my battery has gone from lasting 6-8 hours to doubling and almost tripling my battery life. So definitely check that app out if you are having excessive standby waste. I'm pretty sure I got that app idea from here somewhere.
I'll definitely look into that. Thank you.
Tried last night with 3g on instead of 4g and I went down 8% in 8h10m. This is on the stock battery, so battery life is pretty good running AOSP. I remember it would drain a lot more when I used to run sense though.
@somai - i followed what you have the gingeritis 3D VI with ziggy kernel and I am losing battery life.
I charged the battery 100% and battery calibration set then I am getting loss 100% to 76% in 5 hours with moderate use.
I tried using the OMFGB and CM7 got damn good battery life 2-3 days in moderate use.
I don't understand why your gingeritis 3D got better than my gingeritis 3D. =/
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Hi, im not really sure about my evos battery life. I took it off of the charger and its already dropped to 87% i have all of the recomended apps such as battery deffender and advanced task manager and nothing helps. Any help i could get?
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DroidModderXXL said:
Hi, im not really sure about my evos battery life. I took it off of the charger and its already dropped to 87% i have all of the recomended apps such as battery deffender and advanced task manager and nothing helps. Any help i could get?
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first drop task manager.. evolte has one built in sorta but android doesnt need it. i would drop both to be honest ive pounded mine in use and still havent gone into the yellow. first thin i would look at is cell signal.. update prl/profile etc. then second check your stats sending.. did you agree to send HTC/google data on usage? if so maybe thats it tho i doubt it
last check on apps youve installed maybe you got one thats going nuts.. take a screen shot of your power usage and post it too
Yeah, you don't need a task manager on android 2.2+
Also, does Evo LTE have the same charging circuitry the Evo 4g did, where if you pull it off the charger at 100%, it really could be anywhere from 90-100 and battery meter shows the true charge a couple minutes off charger ?
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scottspa74 said:
Yeah, you don't need a task manager on android 2.2+
Also, does Evo LTE have the same charging circuitry the Evo 4g did, where if you pull it off the charger at 100%, it really could be anywhere from 90-100 and battery meter shows the true charge a couple minutes off charger ?
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ive charged mine to full twice and both times ( tho ive never checked on power stats ) ive never been below 100%
I got about 27 hours of light to moderate usuage yesterday into today. Loving it so far.
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I'm with everyone else....I've been using the hell out of this thing and haven't made it even close to the yellow. I'm super impressed.
The problem is according to your username and icon you're on AT&T.
It takes a lot of juice for that Sprint phone to pick up an AT&T signal so it runs your battery down faster.
This is after the initial charge
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I love how well this phone "sleeps." I left it unplugged during the night, and when I check it this morning it only had two little blips of Awake time.
I'm not getting more than 10 to 12 hours out of a charge with light use. I have got to figure this out.
Edit: battery use says 68% is the display. Maybe its the newness still.
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Oh and what are you guys using to grab screenshots?
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I also get about 10-12 hours of charge. Help anyone?
The screen is a pig, so worth it though. Try dimming it makrs a big difference.
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Power button + Home button
Make sure LTE is off if you're not in an LTE area. settings, mobile network, network mode, cdma only.
I'm having the same problems. I am on it constantly, but no more than my 3d and it's not getting any better battery life at all. From 8-10 hours.
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Make sure LTE is off if you're not in an LTE area. settings, mobile network, network mode, cdma only.
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i dont think it makes a difference on this phone. on the OG yes.. if you turned on wimax even in a wimax area it sucked power. my understanding is the wimax used a separate chip and thus drew more power where as LTE is built in and uses no real extra power
Ive fully charged the phone twice so far and both times Ive gotten around 23hours of use. Thats with moderate usage of texts, facebook, internet, and the addicting yet battery killing game Crime City. I bet if I didnt play that game I could easily get a day and a half.
For reference, my OG evo battery would be dead in about 6 hours doing the same exact stuff. Granted, I was on the original 2 year old battery.
I've used the crap out of my phone the last two days and my phone has lasted all day and then some. Yesterday I was in an area that had no service and I was taking pictures all day and my battery was at 40 percent after 15 hours of heavy use.
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My battery is amazing I still have 70% after 8 hrs. Try downloading bad ass battery monitor it's great. I also use battery level to keep my screen at 25% and not auto brightness or nothing. The other saving tips could be obvious, no vibration on anything, wifi if possible, not many widgets running, syncing. I always turn my 3G/mobile network off when I leave the house I just turn it on when I'm checking FB, Twitter stuff like that
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regrets my old thoughts of Note 2 being backward comparing to DNA.
Test-drived both for a few days and the answer is rather clear.
Putting all stuff onto 80GB storage is so cool coz you can watch them in NYC subway where you can't find a shxxt about cell coverage.
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Who else are getting ONLY 2-3 hours screen time and 18 hours total time on one charge with similar profile like below:
cell signal around -100 dbm to -120 dbm most of the time.
40% in WIFI though.
8 email accounts in EMAIL app.
1 gmail accounts.
Bluetooth on all the time.
Use facebook quite a lot.
Auto screen brightness
Disabled those VZW navigator / VZW Amazon crap.
I just feel pressured after seeing those ALL TIME LTE with 5-7 hours screen time posted in the other Thread "How is your battery life so far".
I am wondering if my battery is defect even...
jiwengang said:
regrets my old thoughts of Note 2 being backward comparing to DNA.
Test-drived both for a few days and the answer is rather clear.
Putting all stuff onto 80GB storage is so cool coz you can watch them in NYC subway where you can't find a shxxt about cell coverage.
ONLY QUESTION:
Who else are getting ONLY 2-3 hours screen time and 18 hours total time on one charge with similar profile like below:
cell signal around -100 dbm to -120 dbm most of the time.
40% in WIFI though.
8 email accounts in EMAIL app.
1 gmail accounts.
Bluetooth on all the time.
Use facebook quite a lot.
Auto screen brightness
Disabled those VZW navigator / VZW Amazon crap.
I just feel pressured after seeing those ALL TIME LTE with 5-7 hours screen time posted in the other Thread "How is your battery life so far".
I am wondering if my battery is defect even...
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You have 2 heavy apps are Facebook and 8 email accounts. Try to set the "check email internal" and facebook to never (you manually check). Also trun off notification for facebook. This should bring you up to around 5hrs or more on screen on time.
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You have 2 heavy apps are Facebook and 8 email accounts. Try to set the "check email internal" and facebook to never (you manually check). Also trun off notification for facebook. This should bring you up to around 5hrs or more on screen on time.
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exactly! i use dark walpapers, power saving mode, and only sync 1 email account. you cant have multiple sync accounts, live or bright wallpapers, widgets galore, and expect to get the same battery life.
May be an issue with your battery.
This is how my first run looks. Very Heavy usage.
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jiwengang said:
regrets my old thoughts of Note 2 being backward comparing to DNA.
Test-drived both for a few days and the answer is rather clear.
Putting all stuff onto 80GB storage is so cool coz you can watch them in NYC subway where you can't find a shxxt about cell coverage.
ONLY QUESTION:
Who else are getting ONLY 2-3 hours screen time and 18 hours total time on one charge with similar profile like below:
cell signal around -100 dbm to -120 dbm most of the time.
40% in WIFI though.
8 email accounts in EMAIL app.
1 gmail accounts.
Bluetooth on all the time.
Use facebook quite a lot.
Auto screen brightness
Disabled those VZW navigator / VZW Amazon crap.
I just feel pressured after seeing those ALL TIME LTE with 5-7 hours screen time posted in the other Thread "How is your battery life so far".
I am wondering if my battery is defect even...
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My only guess could be the 8 email accounts you have synced if they're all checking for mail throughout the day I can see how that can kill your battery. I would suggest if feasible to forward everything to one address or try to cut down as many as you can and slow the sync interval.
Sent from my SCH-I605 using xda premium
facebook is evil. Also, it hurts your battery.
Your email accounts is enough to do some damage surely as well, either pare that down or set up forwarding and filters to a gmail account to reduce load gmail's push rather than constantly polling for emails.
My 2 cents, don't have comparable use due to those 2 factors to say really =)
Signal plays a massive role in cell phone battery life. MASSIVE. Hovering around mediocre signal to literally out-of-service (-120dbm) is like the absolute worst. The radio draws more power as it searches for a signal. This kills your battery so fast it's unbelievable. Where I live my 1x signal is garbage, so if I charged my Droid X to 100% before going to bed, unplugged it and left it on all night, I'd wake up to something like 70% battery left.
Went out, got the Network Extender for Verizons 1x signal, and bam perfect signal (-55 dbm on average for 1x VOICE) and I go to sleep with my phone at 100% and woke up at 100%. It was literally night and day difference.
Now I am on a Thunderbolt with LTE and I get great LTE signal at home (usually -90dbm) so that at least helps in that my battery isn't getting totally nuked looking for LTE signal, but my Voice still sucks. And since the new radio's don't play well with my Network Extender, I can't use it anymore.
Bottom line is, spending a lot of time searching for signal will kill your battery. All that extra stuff like the 8 emails, facebook, etc, that's all just overkill when coupled with the poor signal. Be glad you pull more than 3 hours of screen on over a day with that kind of reception.
Battery varies with usage. I use my phone constantly throughout the day and like screen on max brightness. I bought a spare battery for this reason.
DaRkL3AD3R said:
Signal plays a massive role in cell phone battery life. MASSIVE. Hovering around mediocre signal to literally out-of-service (-120dbm) is like the absolute worst. The radio draws more power as it searches for a signal. This kills your battery so fast it's unbelievable. Where I live my 1x signal is garbage, so if I charged my Droid X to 100% before going to bed, unplugged it and left it on all night, I'd wake up to something like 70% battery left.
Went out, got the Network Extender for Verizons 1x signal, and bam perfect signal (-55 dbm on average for 1x VOICE) and I go to sleep with my phone at 100% and woke up at 100%. It was literally night and day difference.
Now I am on a Thunderbolt with LTE and I get great LTE signal at home (usually -90dbm) so that at least helps in that my battery isn't getting totally nuked looking for LTE signal, but my Voice still sucks. And since the new radio's don't play well with my Network Extender, I can't use it anymore.
Bottom line is, spending a lot of time searching for signal will kill your battery. All that extra stuff like the 8 emails, facebook, etc, that's all just overkill when coupled with the poor signal. Be glad you pull more than 3 hours of screen on over a day with that kind of reception.
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Thanks for confirming my suspicion.
I appreciate previous folks' comments on the email accounts and facebook .
but the reason I put many emails on the EMAIL app is because they can let me choose the time to sync, unlike Gmail App, the only option is PUSH or NEVER.
So my 8 email accounts sync twice a day, Facebook sync all off. It still did not help much.
But with your case above, I think more weights need to be put into the cell signal issue.
Just noticed from BetterBatteryStat that, about 50% of the time it is marked as "No Signal or Unknown Signal"...that must be the culprit...
Thanks all for your comments !!!
But again, on relative basis, this phone 's battery life still kills. =)
I have unlimited data on vzw. Wodering what people have seen as less battery drain.WiFi vs 3g and WiFi vs LTE?
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WiFi is the least drain
rp201 said:
I have unlimited data on vzw. Wodering what people have seen as less battery drain.WiFi vs 3g and WiFi vs LTE?
Sent from my VS985 4G
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I never turn Wifi on. I have unlimited data and get more than a day out of the battery.
So I'm in a spot where 4g and 3g is spotty and weak. WiFi is spotty weak...disable data altogether?
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So I'm in a spot where 4g and 3g is spotty and weak. WiFi is spotty weak...disable data altogether?
Sent from my VS985 4G
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I have just created a profile in Tasker where if I'm on a wifi, it automatically turns off mobile data. Once I turn off or lose the WiFi connection, it turns mobile data back on. I used almost zero battery last night for the first time since I've owned this phone. I might experiment with turning wifi off when I leave the house with another Tasker profile, too, so wifi doesn't pull juice searching for signals and hotspots. Here's to hoping this helps extend battery life; all signs so far are that it's working.
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Those two flat lines are my phone sitting idle last night with mobile data off.
Doesn't it already disable mobile data when WiFi runs on
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I have unlimited data on vzw. Wodering what people have seen as less battery drain.WiFi vs 3g and WiFi vs LTE?
Sent from my VS985 4G
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rp201 said:
So I'm in a spot where 4g and 3g is spotty and weak. WiFi is spotty weak...disable data altogether?
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If you are in an area with weak signal, you will kill the battery faster.
The radio will ramp to maximum output and that burn battery.
Phone batteries last longer in strong signal areas.
If you are in a bad area, turn off radios to preserve battery.
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Doesn't it already disable mobile data when WiFi runs on
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I don't think that it does. I've never had virtually flat battery use lines at night in any of the past 2 + weeks. There's always a steady drop and I can now attribute that to mobile data doing "something". It says it's disconnected when you're on WiFi; however, the 4G symbol is still highlighted. When I use tasker, it greys out. For some reason, I believe it's still maintaining a slight connection to the network for location or some other unknown reason. I could be wrong, buy my perception now is that this is working. I'll know better in the next few days.
battery sucks on both
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I don't think that it does. I've never had virtually flat battery use lines at night in any of the past 2 + weeks. There's always a steady drop and I can now attribute that to mobile data doing "something". It says it's disconnected when you're on WiFi; however, the 4G symbol is still highlighted. When I use tasker, it greys out. For some reason, I believe it's still maintaining a slight connection to the network for location or some other unknown reason. I could be wrong, buy my perception now is that this is working. I'll know better in the next few days.
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this is something that has bugged me since I got this phone, my last phone was a Droid Razr Maxx and when I used the Motorola Smart Actions to disable data the 3G/4G icon would completely disappear from the status bar, but when I toggle data off with the pull down menu on the G3 I can still see it switch between 3G and 4G icons and even with both DATA and WIFI off the 11c update was still downloading and I had to keep killing it till I was able to root, so it's like it disables apps access to the data but doesn't actually power the radio down all the way.
Another thing was when I had mobile data off on my Razr and someone sent a Picture message (regular text and calls came thru fine) I would get a text with a download button on it where I would need to turn data on then download it, but on this phone it just comes straight thru.
daniel644 said:
this is something that has bugged me since I got this phone, my last phone was a Droid Razr Maxx and when I used the Motorola Smart Actions to disable data the 3G/4G icon would completely disappear from the status bar, but when I toggle data off with the pull down menu on the G3 I can still see it switch between 3G and 4G icons and even with both DATA and WIFI off the 11c update was still downloading and I had to keep killing it till I was able to root, so it's like it disables apps access to the data but doesn't actually power the radio down all the way.
Another thing was when I had mobile data off on my Razr and someone sent a Picture message (regular text and calls came thru fine) I would get a text with a download button on it where I would need to turn data on then download it, but on this phone it just comes straight thru.
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use "green power" from the market, works like a champ, problem solved!