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So I've read a bunch on this from all sorts of sites. I believe this to be possible, but need some help with the technical aspect of this.
I can get it activated that is not an issue.
A few questions:
1) How to get the phone talking to the network?
I've updated to the verizon prl, and when I *228 I get the verizon programming prompts, but It won't update programming due to not being activated.
2)Do you think the Thunderbolt radio will work with the Evo 3d?
2a) If not, would it be possible to merge the T-bolt radio code with the Evo radio code to create a hybrid?
3)Settings, would any know the ##3282# settings for the verizon network.
I understand this is difficult, I've also read the post, "Why not just go to sprint?", I'm not interested in those responses. This is a challenge, and I'd like to complete it.
Dev's what do you know?
Someone feel free to correct me, but I believe the two networks, although both cdma, work differently from one another. So I do not think its possible to flash a phone from one to the other...
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Let's break it down.
ROM: Perhaps, if I have to fork a github to create it.
Guide: May be when I get it to work.
Q: Absolutely, but I need people that know what they are talking about to help with a solution. General Q&A will just get filled with similar stupid answers like yours Liquid. If you don't know how or are unwilling to help don't post.
The two chipsets are very similar 8660 vs 8655. Both are capable of the same 3g connections. I'm not concerned with WiMax.
I will NOT be changing MEIDs or anything of the sort. Nothing illegal.
It may be possible, but I do know that Verizon WILL NOT activate a Sprint ESN or vice versa. I don't care if you have a buddy that works at Verizon they can't do it nor will Sprint activate a Verizon ESN. The ONLY way to do this is to illegally change the ESN which is not permitted to be discussed here at XDA. So, not only are you in the wrong section, you are in the wrong forum all together. Take this kind of question to some shady part of the interwebz where it belongs.
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that's what I figured no input in this forum. Good job guys, and great job lufc.
I purchased a Samsung Fascinate from a guy at at flea market a few months ago.
Sure enough, bad ESN. So, now, how to proceed, sell on eBay, flash to Straight talk, or Cricket?
My thoughts were to first flash to Cyanogen, then either Cricket or Straight Talk.
Is this possible?
If some have done this, please respond with some pointers, step by step, and the how the heck do you manage setting up the account
Lot's of very confusing information on these forums/
Jesgrew
Bad ESN
I don't think you are going to be able to do anything with a bad ESN... I mean, you can activate it on Cricket however, you will have a tough time with roaming. If the ESN has been blacklisted by Sprint, for example, the minute you try to roam onto a Sprint tower, the ESN will automatically get kicked due to the status of the ESN.
rambler335 said:
I don't think you are going to be able to do anything with a bad ESN... I mean, you can activate it on Cricket however, you will have a tough time with roaming. If the ESN has been blacklisted by Sprint, for example, the minute you try to roam onto a Sprint tower, the ESN will automatically get kicked due to the status of the ESN.
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Not Sprint, Verizon.
I read about others flashing to Straight talk, Metro, Cricket, etc.
Many claim they have done as much, and happy with the results.
I aint a roamer, just want to get some use out of my bad purchase.
Not asking how to change the ESN, just how to, or If I can get it going.
Links to good information or tutorials welcome.
Remember Noobe here: Step by step please.
hmmm... PM me, and I will solve your problems.
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Ahem... "ESN or MEID changes are a strictly prohibited subject here at XDA." This thread is now closed.
There, mods, I helped you out.
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gawbage said:
Ahem... "ESN or MEID changes are a strictly prohibited subject here at XDA." This thread is now closed.
There, mods, I helped you out.
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Has anyone seen John Connor?
if you found a solution i'd be interested
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gawbage said:
Ahem... "ESN or MEID changes are a strictly prohibited subject here at XDA." This thread is now closed.
There, mods, I helped you out.
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flashing to cricket or other carriers of the sort are not illegal and doesnt require a esn/meid change/hack
as for the op i wouldn't put the phone on cm7 to sell as cm7 doesnt fully work flashed with cm7 on cricket. mms has never worked for cm7.
and as for the esn conflict thing thats incorrect the phone will still roam just fine on the original carriers network. how do i know? cause i can call out when roaming on verizon and get the ''welcome to verizon wireless bla bla bla'' i am still able to text just as my cricket plan includes, just no talk. if i was to jump my plan to 60 a month then ill talk but for now theres no reason.
Has anyone had luck to program the View 4G to use Verizon 3G/EVDO service? I tried but failed. I was able to get the MSL, and use QPST to program the required settings and prl to the tablet, but the data connection failed with either error 131 or 67. Please shed some light if you know how to accomplish this. Thanks!
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really? it doesn't involve fixing MEID or something like that, I just prefer Verizon 3G service due to coverage. Plus, there are some many topics in this forum talk about similar things already ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpOn_G1Z1mg
Verizon is faster than wimax.
Yes sir LOL
Meid change is required to get it working on Verizon. Google esn repair HTC Evo 3D and you may be able to figure it out.
I have a droid razr im trying to fully flash to metropcs, i have already done the flash on the phone itself, but im having trouble getting the razr into metropcs inventory.
the reason im having trouble is because its a 4g LTE verizon so it has a imei:990000xxxxxxxxx and not a meid:a00000xxxxxxxx
does anyone know how to either convert this imei into an meid or what i can do to get this phone working on metro??
i know its doable because ive seen a youtube video of them fully flashed and functional on cricket.....
youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G7FoFDc8-k
Honestly, this is not the section for this, you can verify it better in Q/A and in General.
mods please move this to the Q&A sub forum
I usually see stuff like this in Howard Forums. I live in Atlanta and several people advertise this service on Craigslist. Thank me if I've helped you.
allchannels99 said:
I usually see stuff like this in Howard Forums. I live in Atlanta and several people advertise this service on Craigslist. Thank me if I've helped you.
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it's also illegal....
I'm pretty sure it's not illegal to flash a phone to another carrier as long as you don't touch the ESN.
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I'm pretty sure it's not illegal to flash a phone to another carrier as long as you don't touch the ESN.
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How often have you seen people NOT mess with the ESN? Especially when it's to metroPCS?
Technically it is illegal because in order to flash to Metro PCS you have to spoof the ESN to one that Metro PCS recognizes... but technically giving head is also illegal where I live.
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Technically it is illegal because in order to flash to Metro PCS you have to spoof the ESN to one that Metro PCS recognizes... but technically giving head is also illegal where I live.
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Or, you could use MetroPCS's official MetroFlash tool to flash other CDMA phones to MetroPCS. You won't believe how many EVO 4G's and 3D's are on MPCS.
so how can i get my phone into metros system i dont have the metroflash tool but i work across the hall from a metro....and they cant get it into the system using the houdinisoft
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I have a droid razr im trying to fully flash to metropcs, i have already done the flash on the phone itself, but im having trouble getting the razr into metropcs inventory.
the reason im having trouble is because its a 4g LTE verizon so it has a imei:990000xxxxxxxxx and not a meid:a00000xxxxxxxx
does anyone know how to either convert this imei into an meid or what i can do to get this phone working on metro??
i know its doable because ive seen a youtube video of them fully flashed and functional on cricket.....
youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G7FoFDc8-k
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Dial *#06# and it will give you the meid.
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cmraymond said:
Dial *#06# and it will give you the meid.
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i tried that it gives me a 990000 number and a 256 number neither are usable in metro pcs system
Use RadioComm or QPST to see the actual MEID.
QPST and other QC software need a virtual serial port for the COM port assignment but RadioComm does not. QPST displays the MEID at the top right of the service programming window.
RadioComm has buttons that will display MEID, IMEI and pESN in the top center of the main GUI.
The phone displays the IMEI minus 1 digit as the MEID instead of the true MEID, which is NV Item 1943 (dec) or 0797 (hex).
I also am interested
I would love to flash my Razr Maxx to MetroPCS. If anyone can point me/us in the right direction, that would be very appreciated. I tried the Craigslist route, but no one offers the service in my area (Central Florida).
Also, I just read this article concerning MetroPCS and their flashing service:
www dot phonenews dot com/metropcs-ends-metroflash-cdma-flashing-service-20154/
Apparently they are cancelling their in-house flashing of phones due to a lawsuit by Virgin Mobile.
Also, if some could "thank" me, that would be great. I have some posts that I think would be helpful, if I could create new topics.
Thanks,
GabrielSlade
Did you get it solved?
Chief were you able to resolve this. I have a razr as well and would love to put it on MetroPCS
cellzealot said:
Use RadioComm or QPST to see the actual MEID.
QPST and other QC software need a virtual serial port for the COM port assignment but RadioComm does not. QPST displays the MEID at the top right of the service programming window.
RadioComm has buttons that will display MEID, IMEI and pESN in the top center of the main GUI.
The phone displays the IMEI minus 1 digit as the MEID instead of the true MEID, which is NV Item 1943 (dec) or 0797 (hex).
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you mean the imei minus 1 digit is not the TRUE meid and only Radiocomm reads the true MEID?
Yeah, I need to flash the Razr to Metro too.
I too would like to put my RAZR on MetroPCS, BUT apparently "Motorola Droid Razr can not be full flashed. Only talk and text and web only through wi-fi".
From what i've read previously, for other devices, once your device goes Metro, it wont go back.
If you are still stuck, i would try and contact this guy either HERE or HERE and see if he would give you a little advice....
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE : either edit your original post or start a new thread if and when you get her working, along with what steps were taken to get there and as much needed info as possible : PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
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I just read that link i left you and the dude left his contact #...
can someoen please send me their email if they have a solution and i will pay for it!!
cellzealot said:
Use RadioComm or QPST to see the actual MEID.
QPST and other QC software need a virtual serial port for the COM port assignment but RadioComm does not. QPST displays the MEID at the top right of the service programming window.
RadioComm has buttons that will display MEID, IMEI and pESN in the top center of the main GUI.
The phone displays the IMEI minus 1 digit as the MEID instead of the true MEID, which is NV Item 1943 (dec) or 0797 (hex).
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I know this is more than a few months old but I am wondering once I obtain the MEID from QPST, do I just give this to the metro employee?
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Ok, this thread was closed http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1660357 before anything "illegal" could be discussed.
However, it does raise questions for me and possibly for others and while the power of Google is there, I'd like to ask here for clarification and educational purposes.
DO NOT, DO NOT, DO NOT get my thread closed by explaining how to change ESN. It has been made VERY clear that is illegal and against XDA.
However, this is the question: What is ESN and why exactly is it illegal to change it?
It was brought up in the aforementioned thread that if an Evo 3D is to be put on VM, the ESN would have to be changed.
That also brings up another question: Does the ESN have to be changed to be flashed to other carriers (Metro PCS, Cricket, Boost, etc)? If so, why are there guides on how to flash over.
Again, I'm curious about this, which is something I don't know anything about. And, again, please DO NOT get this thread closed by posting instructions on how to change ESN.
Thanks in advance for non-flaming assistance.
saboxerman said:
Ok, this thread was closed http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1660357 before anything "illegal" could be discussed.
However, it does raise questions for me and possibly for others and while the power of Google is there, I'd like to ask here for clarification and educational purposes.
DO NOT, DO NOT, DO NOT get my thread closed by explaining how to change ESN. It has been made VERY clear that is illegal and against XDA.
However, this is the question: What is ESN and why exactly is it illegal to change it?
It was brought up in the aforementioned thread that if an Evo 3D is to be put on VM, the ESN would have to be changed.
That also brings up another question: Does the ESN have to be changed to be flashed to other carriers (Metro PCS, Cricket, Boost, etc)? If so, why are there guides on how to flash over.
Again, I'm curious about this, which is something I don't know anything about. And, again, please DO NOT get this thread closed by posting instructions on how to change ESN.
Thanks in advance for non-flaming assistance.
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Although it is easy to search and find out roughly how to flash a phone to a different carrier, here's the basics.
You have to have a donor phone from the carrier you want. You clone that ESN of the donor to the new phone. As far as the new carrier is concerned, your phone will appear as the donor phone. Although I believe it is illegal to clone ESNs, it seems to be a bit of a grey area. This is because more than likely, you go buy or get a cheap boost/cricket/or other carrier phone to use as the donor and therefore you actually own that phone. It's like copying an old CD to a new burned one when it is too scratched up to play in a player to me. You own the original CD and just want to transfer it to a new CD to keep using it for your own purposes.
+1 to all these questions, especially why flashing for VM would be any different than Metro, etc. I was discussing my conjecture that using the 3d on VM would be a simple matter of finding a compatible Rom with proper radios (like the VM ics leak) and doing a few minor tweaks. Then the ESN thing was brought up and thread closed.
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ESN is electronic serial number and is used to identify each device. Its something like IMEI for CDMA phones. Then, if some people has lost the phone you can report the ESN and no one can use it. But if you change it to another number you can use as long as you want. That's the main reason it is illegal.And not, you don't need to change ESN if you want to change the carrier. At least I didn't see the need. I usually buy phones from sprint and then I flash in Mexico to iusacell and the ESN is never changed.
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raptoro07 said:
Although it is easy to search and find out roughly how to flash a phone to a different carrier, here's the basics.
You have to have a donor phone from the carrier you want. You clone that ESN of the donor to the new phone. As far as the new carrier is concerned, your phone will appear as the donor phone. Although I believe it is illegal to clone ESNs, it seems to be a bit of a grey area. This is because more than likely, you go buy or get a cheap boost/cricket/or other carrier phone to use as the donor and therefore you actually own that phone. It's like copying an old CD to a new burned one when it is too scratched up to play in a player to me. You own the original CD and just want to transfer it to a new CD to keep using it for your own purposes.
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Very good explanation. Yes, I know searching it is a possibility, however, I didn't see anything that jumped out at me on this Q & A forum and figured others are curious and should now about this stuff. There are some lines that are ridiculous, but, there are some that should not be crossed and this sounds like one.
Perfect analogy with the CD burning.
coal686 said:
+1 to all these questions, especially why flashing for VM would be any different than Metro, etc. I was discussing my conjecture that using the 3d on VM would be a simple matter of finding a compatible Rom with proper radios (like the VM ics leak) and doing a few minor tweaks. Then the ESN thing was brought up and thread closed.
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Ditto, ditto, ditto.
HTC Reseller said:
ESN is electronic serial number and is used to identify each device. Its something like IMEI for CDMA phones. Then, if some people has lost the phone you can report the ESN and no one can use it. But if you change it to another number you can use as long as you want. That's the main reason it is illegal.And not, you don't need to change ESN if you want to change the carrier. At least I didn't see the need. I usually buy phones from sprint and then I flash in Mexico to iusacell and the ESN is never changed.
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So, CDMA phones have IMEI and GSM phones have ESN?
Also, it was mentioned the ESN would have to be changed to go to VM. Why would that be if the ESN doesn't have to be changed to be flashed to other CDMA networks?
saboxerman said:
Very good explanation. Yes, I know searching it is a possibility, however, I didn't see anything that jumped out at me on this Q & A forum and figured others are curious and should now about this stuff. There are some lines that are ridiculous, but, there are some that should not be crossed and this sounds like one.
Perfect analogy with the CD burning.
Ditto, ditto, ditto.
So, CDMA phones have IMEI and GSM phones have ESN?
Also, it was mentioned the ESN would have to be changed to go to VM. Why would that be if the ESN doesn't have to be changed to be flashed to other CDMA networks?
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Yes, CDMA phones have an Electronic Serial Number (ESN) and GSM phones have a International Mobile Equipment Identity (IMEI). My understanding is that if you want to use an EVO 3D on Cricket say, you have to do the donor phone swarp because they don't use the EVO 3D on thier network.
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Yes, CDMA phones have an Electronic Serial Number (ESN) and GSM phones have a International Mobile Equipment Identity (IMEI). My understanding is that if you want to use an EVO 3D on Cricket say, you have to do the donor phone swarp because they don't use the EVO 3D on thier network.
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Is that specific to Cricket?
Sorry for so many questions, but, I'd like to have a clear understanding for myself and those reading.
Metro PCS doesn't use the Evo 3D on their network, however, there are instructions on flashing the phone to their network. Is that illegal? If so, how is that thread still up in the Development forum?
saboxerman said:
Is that specific to Cricket?
Sorry for so many questions, but, I'd like to have a clear understanding for myself and those reading.
Metro PCS doesn't use the Evo 3D on their network, however, there are instructions on flashing the phone to their network. Is that illegal? If so, how is that thread still up in the Development forum?
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So after some searching and watching some videos on youtube, you may not have to change the ESN to flash to a different carrier.
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So after some searching and watching some videos on youtube, you may not have to change the ESN to flash to a different carrier.
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Yeah...I can't hit YouTube at work. They have it blocked.
So, the question now is whether or not it is true the ESN has to be changed for VM. If so, why would it have to be changed?
saboxerman said:
Yeah...I can't hit YouTube at work. They have it blocked.
So, the question now is whether or not it is true the ESN has to be changed for VM. If so, why would it have to be changed?
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Okay, more info after more seraching.
You do not need to change the ESN (the process using a Donor phone) if the carrier you are attempting to use will accept your ESN. However, from what I have read, Virgin Mobile will only accept the ESN from a phone they have sold. Some carriers will allow ESNs on their network. In order to get a phone onto VM, you will have to get a donor and change the ESN (mentioned before as ILLEGAL). You could try flashing it, there are some guides out there to VM, but may not be able to activate without changing the ESN (Again ILLEGAL).
Ok, so lets sum it up. Most CDMA carriers only allow phones on their network that they themselves sold. Meaning it HAS to be branded by them. I.E. Sprint, VM, Boost (depends on who you talk to), Verizon, and a few others. On the other hand some carriers allow any ESN to be put on their network.
And that is where it lies. Because VM will not add ANY ESN to their database that they didn't sell. But for say like Cricket, they will allow any CDMA phone to their network. Thats why for Cricket all you have to do is get your data profile setup correctly and get the ESN registered with them.
But for VM, you have to change ESN's which in fact in black and white is illegal. There is no grey area. If you modify an ESN in any way shape or form you are breaking the law.
Cool, can we close this thread now?
I think that sums up everything and now I have a very clear picture of what the deal is.
Thank you to everyone who contributed to the answer and I hope this helps others out there with the same question.
Cool to close the thread?