HTC has a good reputation for listening to their customers. We have already achieved a minor victory because HTC has responded to our cries but we cant stop now we have to continue to show them we do not want this.
I encourage you to go to this thread on the HTC forums so that they will see that we do not want this.
Please post your objections in this thread: http://community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/f/87/t/11535.aspx
Thank you,
~An HTC Fan
edit: Also please sign this petition: http://www.groubal.com/htc-bootloaders-and-nand/#signatures
Although I agree with you (click the red link in my sig) a moderator is going to have one HELL of a time cleaning up all these duplicate or near-duplicate threads. Hopefully one of them >.> looks for toastcfh <.< will get in here soon and cleanse the madness lol.
If you look at HTCs facebook it is completely flooded...they have to listen, dont they?
There a lot of View 4G user like myself. Please Create a View 4G Section.
I agree
I agree with OP. Please at least put a separate section withing the Flyer section. You know like you did with the Nexus 4G? Thank you for all you do XDA...
Please, a subforum for View specific issues.
Please. I own a flyer and would get soooo pissed when a view owner would say they got netflix from the market on their "flyer"
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I fourth this request.
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Yup, view forum please...
Here here! Bring on a new View forum!
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I only agree with the OP if he means a separate subforum within the main "Flyer" forum. There is very little difference between the Flyer and View. A separate subforum for one or the other (Flyer/View) for model-specific issues would be okay. But otherwise, it fractures and dilutes the information way too much. This is how it was for the G2 and Desire Z (separate forums). If somebody found a solution for something on the G2 (that also worked on the Z), the information would take days (or maybe even weeks) to spread on the Z forum. And even then, often people would just lazily say "look in the G2 forum", and you'd have to go searching around for it. It was actually a big improvement IMO when they eventually merged the G2 and Z forums into one.
Another example, was when I was on the Tilt 2/Touch Pro 2. Things went just fine with the Tilt2 being on the same forum as the TP2. People were just good about stating which model they had. Better yet, just put your tablet model in your signature, and you never have to worry about mentioning it in your post. There are way more differences between the GSM TP2 and the CDMA one, then there are between the View and the Flyer. And all they did for the TP2 was add a subforum for CDMA-model specific issues.
For that matter, there are probably as many (if not more) differences between the WiFi-only Flyer, and the one with 3G/4G. Are we going to make a whole new forum for them, too? Don't think that's a good idea.
If people can't even get the tablet model (Flyer/View) right when they are posting, that's their own stupidity, and there is no cure for that.
^^I agree. A subforum would be more appropriate in this case.
I also agree that the View should have its own subforum in the Flyer section.
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Agreed, however
I think a separate subforum would be nice, but I think us Flyer owners would rather not lose our View toting brothers to another area of the forums!
Now that we have S-Off and we can expect development to begin, I think any future confusion when ROM development starts hitting in here can be avoided by having a couple of sub-forums. VIEW General and VIEW Development at least. Just my $0.02
I am disagree because what is the big difference?
And I am sure that no newbie knows this difference and ask only View specific questions in this subforum and only there. We will have still View questions in the general part and non-View questions in the View subforum only because the owner has a view.
What we need is a simple approach to mention always the Flyer type - like this is organized in many other device forums here.
I think just posting something simple as [view] or [flyer] in the title of a rom or something else your posting that is device specific.
I would like a new View forum too, because it will get even more confusing if people don't completely describe their devices, and everybody says it will work, but on what device? I hope XDA will make a new forum.
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Now that we have S-Off and we can expect development to begin, I think any future confusion when ROM development starts hitting in here can be avoided by having a couple of sub-forums. VIEW General and VIEW Development at least. Just my $0.02
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I know I already posted on this subject, but I totally agree that it would be great to see a View General sub forum in the Flyer General section and a View Development sub forum of the Flyer Development section.
As someone relatively new to concepts like S-off and rooting, it would be nice to have a place to post quedtions and get device specific answers.
icedmo said:
Now that we have S-Off and we can expect development to begin, I think any future confusion when ROM development starts hitting in here can be avoided by having a couple of sub-forums. VIEW General and VIEW Development at least. Just my $0.02
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Its not rocket science, the dev should just say in the ROM description whether its for the View, Flyer, or both. If the OP doesn't say, then you ask, and either the the dev, or somebody else answers. This is how it works for every other device that I've owned.
From past experience, ROMs tend to work on all versions of a device, more so than not. If ROM Development subforum gets split up for the 2 variants, will the ROM dev be expected to post to both, if it works on both? If they don't, people will be stuck browsing both Development subforums, looking for ROMs which are compatible for their version.
Also remember the non-US 3G enabled tablet is called the flyer. I am currently running a rom for the view on my flyer, and other then the annoyance of the "missing" sim card it works fine.
IMO Simply stating View/3G or WiFi Only in the title of the rom should be more than enough. So far every fix for the flyer also works for the view. Separation is un-needed and potentially disruptive. Standardize the ROM labeling and we are golden.
Add another view owner to the /agree list for a subsection for us.
i think the forum should stay the way it is, users should be posting with the right device though it wouldnt hurt XDA devs to put HTC Flyer aka HTC Express (Sprint Evo 4g View) aka Flyer 3g aka Flyer Wifi
if people making threads cant post the correct device they shouldnt be making threads or trying to mod their devices
There are some people on this forum that are doing nothing but fighting with each about who is right and who is wrong, polluting threads about total BS. This is our forum, I don't care who wins in your little "I'm right, no I'm right" battles, and I doubt anyone else does either. Your not going to get an award. All your doing is making our forum full of garbage. Stop for a second and look back at the threads in the General section, mostly repetitive junk on the front page right now.
Have some respect for the rest of us who are enjoying our devices and looking for some quality discussions. If you have a problem with your device let it be known but don't continue to force it down our throats. Deal with your problem, warn us about the problem your having, maybe we can help. Take your phone back and get a replacement. If you move onto another device feel free to go to that forum and play. There's no need to continue to rant about your issues to the rest of us that are happy.
Touché +1.
Have to agree, although I haven't noticed much arguing in this thread yet. I've been vigilant on many threads that were worse, but this is a good preemptive strike! Thanks!
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Have to agree, although I haven't noticed much arguing in this thread yet. I've been vigilant on many threads that were worse, but this is a good preemptive strike! Thanks!
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want to take this opportunity and say, if we can also cut down on personal attacks and comments...
just because you know something and someone else does or just because you don't have an issue and someone poor soul does, doesn't give you a reason to attack him/her with personal remarks such as 'Oh what a jerk' or '****face'.
Secondly, if you don't have an answer, hit the back button and go elsewhere...there is no need to remark on someone else's problems...
Good post BTW.
Very well said and couldn't be explained any better about the situation in the razr forums now. I for one asked for support from fellow razr owners to support me in official motorola forums but nobody cared. If i asked this in Photon forums, i am sure many fellas would happily help me.
Some people just post to fight each other but i would be much more happier than now if we could become and act like a community instead of independent jerks.
It was brought to my attention per a thread discouraging people from posting theories, thoughts, and rumors about ICS for our beloved and hated EVO 3D, that NOBODY knows when ICS will be released. To that I say RUBBISH!
Sandwich the EVO 3D with an HTC ONE X and another EVO 3D and you have yourself a pretty accurate looking Ice Cream Sandwich if I may say so myself.
Happy Easter everyone.
There is massive effort to try and get people to search the forums before posting. There are so many duplicate posts about ICS that it is SIMPLY something they could have realised wasn't worth posting as it's been written about or superseded many times previously. This isn't about ICS, this is about lack of thought/effort before posting.
Why? Because it's like anything that get's hyped, people forget themselves. Discussion is to be encouraged, as is using the search button.
EDIT: to be clear, I WANT info and discussion on ICS.. but I wish it was more targeted than scatter gun.
Happy Easter
I agree that these ics threads are more annoying than anything. There's so much bs and banter about nothing or assumptions with nothing to back it up that I just wanna stop looking all together. Stop these pointless threads until there's something concrete. Thanks
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http://teamuscellular.com/Forum/topic/1823-bootloaders/page__pid__21300#entry21300
there is a guy here wanting to donate his phone for the cause! get him! unlock that bootloader!
Nice that some one wants to give away a phone.
Too bad it's not a Photon........ thread re-opened
<MOD EDIT> at a couple of requests, the thread is re-opened. It seems the Electrify has no specific forum, and I'm told is very similar to the Photon. So until it can get it's own device specific forum, it can "piggy-back" in the Photon forum.
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Nice that some one wants to give away a phone.
Too bad it's not a Photon........ thread re-opened
<MOD EDIT> at a couple of requests, the thread is re-opened. It seems the Electrify has no specific forum, and I'm told is very similar to the Photon. So until it can get it's own device specific forum, it can "piggy-back" in the Photon forum.
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the phones are identical minus the 4g hardware. the 2 phones should in fact be in the same forum thread. separating them would not be the best idea.
ok... 1st off sorry moderator for having to reopen the thread.... wasnt trying to smack you in the face or anything..... so now that that is clleared. would somebody like to work with phone this guy has or know someone who would? this guy could really possibly help....