Hi all!
One thing drives me nuts about my wife tab - it turns screen on in the middle of the night, I guess when battery is completely charge.
Is there any way to disable or completely remove this behavior?
I use AutomateId to disable sounds, but there is nothing to turn off screen completely.
I checked few custom roms and do not see one fixing this problem. So, any suggestions will be appreciated!
Keep the tab switched off while charging
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Keep the tab switched off while charging
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Uh, yeah. That'dprobably do it. ;-)
On a somewhat related note... Is there a danger of overcharging? It always says, "Device fully charged. Please unplug charger." Is it unreasonable to expect smart charge capability?
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That is an option, unless you need it on for something else, like an alarm in the morning ;-)
However, sumsung phones developers let say, were able to work around in custom roms, so I was in hope, that may be I missed something...
JM_I said:
Uh, yeah. That'dprobably do it. ;-)
On a somewhat related note... Is there a danger of overcharging? It always says, "Device fully charged. Please unplug charger." Is it unreasonable to expect smart charge capability?
Sent from my GT-P7510 using xda premium
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the message to unplug is purely an energy saving measure. It doesn't mean unplug from the tab, it means unplug from the wall to prevent "vampire power drain".
I agree about it being sodding annoying, though; the point of charging overnight is that it's fully charged come morning not fully charged at, say, 1am and partially drained by morning! /rant
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the message to unplug is purely an energy saving measure. It doesn't mean unplug from the tab, it means unplug from the wall to prevent "vampire power drain".
I agree about it being sodding annoying, though; the point of charging overnight is that it's fully charged come morning not fully charged at, say, 1am and partially drained by morning! /rant
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Ah, well... Aside from being somewhat econazi-ish, that makes sense. The "wake-up-on-full-charge" thing doesn't really annoy me too much because it's in the case almost all the time. Closed cover = no problems.
CNemo7539 said:
Hi all!
One thing drives me nuts about my wife tab - it turns screen on in the middle of the night, I guess when battery is completely charge.
Is there any way to disable or completely remove this behavior?
I use AutomateId to disable sounds, but there is nothing to turn off screen completely.
I checked few custom roms and do not see one fixing this problem. So, any suggestions will be appreciated!
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Wow! I thought I was the only one. This drives me nuts! I just thought it was one of those random custom ROM bugs. I'd love a fix because then I could just set my setCPU profile to clock down when the screen is off, but since it comes on, I have to make more complicated settings (or else it overheats inside the case!).
I think I figured it out by a chance...
There setting "Never turn screen off when charging" or something like this. I do not have tab in front of me.
Removed that check and didn't see screen on this night.
If it help to anybody else please post here to confirm.
CNemo7539 said:
I think I figured it out by a chance...
There setting "Never turn screen off when charging" or something like this. I do not have tab in front of me.
Removed that check and didn't see screen on this night.
If it help to anybody else please post here to confirm.
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If you figure out where the setting is will you update this thread? Also, update the OP to make it useful to others (including me!)
settings>applications>developments>stay awake, unmark the box, I hope your problem will end. I unmarked it as soon as I got my P7500 while checking settings and never experience this.
I have this option unchecked as well. I can confirm that the tablet turns on when it is completely charged and then goes back to sleep after a short while again.
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Achim
Yeap, it does that. But like you said it shut the display in a short while, if it the option unchecked.
It's usually disabled in custom roms but if you have the skills and time try to make it yourself, although it's annoying that at 4am you hear the tablet buzzin' you that it's fully charged...
I had the same screen switching on over night problem with stock 3.1 ROM.
The tab switched on automatically, and never switched off.
It happened while it was charged and while was not charged, or after rebooted.
I work in front of the tab, and it switched on more and more often.
Once I set the screen off time to another, shorter value, it solved the problem for that afternoon, but in the morning the screen was on again.
Finally I removed 50 rarely used apps, and the problem is almost fixed. It happened only once since then. I think I permitted some app to administer the device in the menu, and those caused this.
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I had the same screen switching on over night problem with stock 3.1 ROM.
The tab switched on automatically, and never switched off.
It happened while it was charged and while was not charged, or after rebooted.
I work in front of the tab, and it switched on more and more often.
Once I set the screen off time to another, shorter value, it solved the problem for that afternoon, but in the morning the screen was on again.
Finally I removed 50 rarely used apps, and the problem is almost fixed. It happened only once since then. I think I permitted some app to administer the device in the menu, and those caused this.
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I think my screen problem is also related to the multimedia dock. When the tab is in the dock and the dock is NOT connected to the charger, then few times it switches on the screen after some time.
I put my tab into silent mode and close the cover.
No noise no light.
Alarm still makes noise even in silent.
But there really should be an option to turn this off.
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I have read a few people having the same issue but no solution. my light on my tilt 2 constantly stays lit orange. It dies overnight too i tried to set the alarm and overslept so that us why im looking for a solution. Thank in advance, again i never found a solution just others with the same issue so i apologize if this has already been solved.
P.s. gps is off and app killer is killing all apps that autostart.
Thanks in advance
MDavisiw said:
I have read a few people having the same issue but no solution. my light on my tilt 2 constantly stays lit orange. It dies overnight too i tried to set the alarm and overslept so that us why im looking for a solution. Thank in advance, again i never found a solution just others with the same issue so i apologize if this has already been solved.
P.s. gps is off and app killer is killing all aps that autostart.
Thanks in advance
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Don't use any 'app killers'... It's probably constantly just killing apps that are relaunching, then killing that app that relaunched, then the app re-relaunches... You get the idea.
Also, FRX06 is no longer supported. Shouldn't have anything to do with the phone not sleeping, but if you want to pursue this further I'd like you to be on the newest build. Thanks.
I was under the assumption that froyo is the most stable build and that the latest doesn't support gps. If i misread will add the latest tonight.
How do i stop it from launching apps i dont want then? i have no need for news to keep popping up like it does, we have the same issue on my gfs android phone all this stuff she doesnt want loading always loads up.
MDavisiw said:
I was under the assumption that froyo is the most stable build and that the latest doesn't support gps. If i misread will add the latest tonight.
How do i stop it from launching apps i dont want then? i have no need for news to keep popping up like it does, we have the same issue on my gfs android phone all this stuff she doesnt want loading always loads up.
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When he says FRX06 is old, that's because FRX07 is out, not because of Gingerbread, start over from scratch with FRX07, disable GPS, verify it sleeps properly (green light), then install apps slowly and make sure it sleeps after you install one, once it stop sleeping remove the last app you installed. Voila.
Thank you for clarifying that. I put FRx07 on just now shut off gps/wifi and the orange light by my ear speaker comtinues to stay lit, no apps are opening aside from "stock" apps those that were included with the os
MDavisiw said:
I have read a few people having the same issue but no solution. my light on my tilt 2 constantly stays lit orange. It dies overnight too i tried to set the alarm and overslept so that us why im looking for a solution. Thank in advance, again i never found a solution just others with the same issue so i apologize if this has already been solved.
P.s. gps is off and app killer is killing all apps that autostart.
Thanks in advance
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well so you wont over sleep..keep the phone plugged in all night then you will hear your alarm...dont worry nothing will happen to your phone. i have done this many times...as for the orange light,i had this happen to me on frx06 but not on frx07..
MDavisiw said:
I have read a few people having the same issue but no solution. my light on my tilt 2 constantly stays lit orange. It dies overnight too i tried to set the alarm and overslept so that us why im looking for a solution. Thank in advance, again i never found a solution just others with the same issue so i apologize if this has already been solved.
P.s. gps is off and app killer is killing all apps that autostart.
Thanks in advance
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Make sure BlueTooth is off in WinMo before launching XDAndroid. That was keeping my phone from sleeping initially.
Lol I learned my lesson that night, i still use winmo until I get this figured out. I love the ability to put this on my phone just hope I can figure out whats causing it. The battery drains to fast to consider using it full time for now though.
Thanks for the suggestion on the bt, It is off when switching over.
BTW I am on FRX 07 now as requested
Thanks in advance for any assistance
MDavisiw said:
Lol I learned my lesson that night, i still use winmo until I get this figured out. I love the ability to put this on my phone just hope I can figure out whats causing it. The battery drains to fast to consider using it full time for now though.
Thanks for the suggestion on the bt, It is off when switching over.
BTW I am on FRX 07 now as requested
Thanks in advance for any assistance
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The only things to my knowledge that kill sleep (now) are:
BT being on in WinMo (put WinMo in airplane mode, soft reset and let WinMo boot back up in airplane mode, then hit HaRET.exe...)
GPS being enabled (disable thru Settings -> Location & Security) - this is an issue even when the GPS icon is not in the notification bar. Just trying GPS and having it enabled will cause sleep problems.
Stupid apps not working correctly. Not sure what we can really do about those long-term, but sometimes apps do not give up wakelocks correctly and prevent the phone from sleeping. I actually got the WeatherBug Pro app for free from the Amazon store one day, and used it for a little while... then realized it was killing sleep on my device and promptly removed it.
If there's anything else killing sleep, let me know - I'm not aware of anything else that could kill sleep assuming you're on FRX07.
Lots of stupid apps. Facebook, anything that does background autosync (like gmail, gcalendar, etc. - I turn off all the autosync options whenever I see them.)
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Lots of stupid apps. Facebook, anything that does background autosync (like gmail, gcalendar, etc. - I turn off all the autosync options whenever I see them.)
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MDavisiw said:
Lol I learned my lesson that night, i still use winmo until I get this figured out. I love the ability to put this on my phone just hope I can figure out whats causing it. The battery drains to fast to consider using it full time for now though.
Thanks for the suggestion on the bt, It is off when switching over.
BTW I am on FRX 07 now as requested
Thanks in advance for any assistance
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I too had major battery drain issues and it really seems to be down to certain components. I have a RHOD100 running FRX07
In particular, I tried rootfs 20110721 last night with a full battery at about 21:00 and i'd swear it would have been dead by 02:00. So I have gone back to rootfs-20110716-245f68a. I am using this with kernel 20110718_223029-package. My battery was 100% at 08:15 this morning so three hours later, it's now at 80% so I'm very happy with this.
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Ok now im curious if I may have "misrepresented" the issue. So here goes..
The orange light that while in WINMO that indicates the phone is charging. That light is constantly on while I am using android. After having upgraded to the FRX07 I clicked the lock button and the light went green but again stayed lit. I guess the major issue here (to me) is that these lights are not shutting off at all. in winmo if I unplug the phone the orange light goes off, the green light stays lit only temporarily. Is this an issue that is common?
I still notice a faster drain on the battery then one might expect thought I dont know how to quantify it as I dont know how to tell what % the battery is at only have the graphic up in the menu bar.
Regarding the Kernels and all in the above post you have lost me, I dont know what is meant by running something under a different Kernel, are you saying you reverted back to FRX06 and the battery issue is fixed?
MDavisiw said:
Ok now im curious if I may have "misrepresented" the issue. So here goes..
The orange light that while in WINMO that indicates the phone is charging. That light is constantly on while I am using android. After having upgraded to the FRX07 I clicked the lock button and the light went green but again stayed lit. I guess the major issue here (to me) is that these lights are not shutting off at all. in winmo if I unplug the phone the orange light goes off, the green light stays lit only temporarily. Is this an issue that is common?
I still notice a faster drain on the battery then one might expect thought I dont know how to quantify it as I dont know how to tell what % the battery is at only have the graphic up in the menu bar.
Regarding the Kernels and all in the above post you have lost me, I dont know what is meant by running something under a different Kernel, are you saying you reverted back to FRX06 and the battery issue is fixed?
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I don't see any issue here at all, whatsoever. Simply a misunderstanding on your part, probably because you haven't taken the time to read and research how this port works.
Orange = wake
Green = sleep
The LED should always be on while in Android, representing the above conditions. It's really that simple. When the phone is plugged in / charging in Android, it cannot sleep - so the orange LED will be on, representing the device is awake.
I'm not talking about when the phone is plugged in, that is expected as you say, but when I have it unplugged and am using it the light continues to stay on.
just like the other thread of mine you commented in (video playback) for what you feel is not appropriately educating myself before asking the question I did read up on this issue before asking same result no concrete answer. If I overlooked it due to either to broad of a search or to narrow then I apologize. I am not trying to offend anyone here but I feel like your being a bit harsh towards me for not knowing all the answers to the questions i am asking.
I apologize again as I may be misreading you or this is just how you come off but your posts have had somewhat of a negative tone at least to me when I read them ever since I asked a question in the rhobuntu thread.
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I'm not talking about when the phone is plugged in, that is expected as you say, but when I have it unplugged and am using it the light continues to stay on.
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The light is always on in Android. Green light always on means it's sleeping properly. Don't compare it to WM, it is not programmed to operate the same way at the present time.
MDavisiw said:
I'm not talking about when the phone is plugged in, that is expected as you say, but when I have it unplugged and am using it the light continues to stay on.
just like the other thread of mine you commented in (video playback) for what you feel is not appropriately educating myself before asking the question I did read up on this issue before asking same result no concrete answer. If I overlooked it due to either to broad of a search or to narrow then I apologize. I am not trying to offend anyone here but I feel like your being a bit harsh towards me for not knowing all the answers to the questions i am asking.
I apologize again as I may be misreading you or this is just how you come off but your posts have had somewhat of a negative tone at least to me when I read them ever since I asked a question in the rhobuntu thread.
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The only reason I'm being harsh is you're not getting something very simple.
LED is always on in Android. Always always always.
Orange = wake
Green = sleep
The LED will never be off in Android, and these are the only things that the LED currently represents in Android - sleep state. Nothing more, nothing less. As was stated above, don't compare the LED to WinMo - it's not even close to how that is programmed at this stage of the game.
If the light stay's orange, then that's Bad and means that the phone is not sleeping and so is likely to be the cause of the battery drain.
Can I suggest that you download "Battery Indicator" from the Market. It gives you a number in the top bar so easy to read the battery level at any time.
On your microSD Card, you will see three files - rootfs.img and the kernel files zImage and module.... try downloading and replacing these with updated versions. Rename the rootfs and zImage files but do NOT rename the module file. You can see the links in my earlier post.
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championc said:
If the light stay's orange, then that's Bad and means that the phone is not sleeping and so is likely to be the cause of the battery drain.
Can I suggest that you download "Battery Indicator" from the Market. It gives you a number in the top bar so easy to read the battery level at any time.
On your microSD Card, you will see three files - rootfs.img and the kernel files zImage and module.... try downloading and replacing these with updated versions. Rename the rootfs and zImage files but do NOT rename the module file. You can see the links in my earlier post.
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Sage advice.
See Incremental Updates if you want more info on updating individual pieces within the project.
MDavisiw said:
I have read a few people having the same issue but no solution. my light on my tilt 2 constantly stays lit orange.
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Does your wifi work? I have the same problem and it seems it appeared along with a wifi problem on my frx7.
With a fresh install everything worked fine. after a couple of days (without modifying system) wifi was broken (gives an error if I try to turn it on) and the phone didn't sleep.
This application mutes notification sound when battery is fully charged. It can also disable vibrations if selected in options. It mutes before batery is charged (usually 99% ro 100%) - it mutes only notifications not phone calls.
Vibrator supression works with SGS2 and Galaxy Tab 10.1, it is strange that it does not work with other Samsung phones (quite puzzled).
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Definitely checking this out, but I think it's kinda sad we have to resort to an app to tell Samsung about this issue, when my old Galaxy S was doing the same crap a year ago and people hated it then! It's like "yes, the device IS fully charged, thanks for telling me in the middle of the night when I have it charging for a reason, and no, I'm not going to take it off the charger just because it's fully charged now!!!"
It's one thing to want to be enviro-friendly, it's another to bug the crap out of you to unplug your device 5 hours before you need it for the day just because it's "done charging...."
Samsung should remove this feature completely. Issue is with some phones, e.g. droid charge, where vibration setting does not work - and this setting in app turns off vibrator :-/ Nevertheless it works for relevant devices which are SGS2, American SGS2 and new Tab.
Any possibility to get this to work on SGS i9000 also?
This "feature" is bugging the crap out of me with 2.3.5 version. Didn't have this problem when I was using Froyo.
edit: Actually, it seems to work in i9000 already. I'll add more information about it in future.
Many thanks for this hilarious application. Finally my tablet don't wake me up at night.
It works also while listening to TuneIn Radio where the tone makes the streaming sound stopped...
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Definitely checking this out, but I think it's kinda sad we have to resort to an app to tell Samsung about this issue, when my old Galaxy S was doing the same crap a year ago and people hated it then! It's like "yes, the device IS fully charged, thanks for telling me in the middle of the night when I have it charging for a reason, and no, I'm not going to take it off the charger just because it's fully charged now!!!"
It's one thing to want to be enviro-friendly, it's another to bug the crap out of you to unplug your device 5 hours before you need it for the day just because it's "done charging...."
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I just thanked you because I couldn't possibly agree more with everything you said. I feel like long tossing the tablet everytime it wakes me up! Going to try this app, thanks OP
Thank you so much! I sleep with my Tablet as I use one of the sleep cycle monitor apps and it always wakes me up when it's done charging.
thanks a bunch, I too found the beep rather annoying especially when you're charging off the PC and using the tab to do other functions during work. I'm downloading this fix right now.
Hello Ondrej,
Could you make it compatible with GS2 NFC (GT-O9100P) because I can not acces to your application on Play Store (not compatible...).
Many thanks
In the market it shows that my SGS2 is not compatible, only my tab 10.1 is?!?!
I disabled application for devices for which users wrote it does not work comments.
I can test application only with devices which I have (which is not GT-O9100P)
I make it short:
Yeah another wifi/ battery thread. But the only one with an actual solution for pi poor battery life after 21 update. Some people reported it helped also with the sod.
Wifi sucks battery dead.
Some people let all sorts of juice sucking bat-control apps running to find out that stock app reading is not lying: The bloody wifi never turns off even set to do so in the settings and just kills the battery of the device.
If this is your workaround you owe me a thanks . If you are an Asus employee testing poor battery issue give me credits in the fixing OTA by repairing the 'never' settings:
Go to
settings, w-lan,advanced (click on the three dots in the upper right corner, there it is), keep_wifi_on_during_sleep:
Instead of setting it to 'never', set it to 'only when plugged in'.
Now put your machine in sleep, wake it after 30min or even much less and BOOOOOOM! here we go:
You will see in the battery settings, that your wifi just has stopped pausing. Depending on how long ago the battery cycle has started you will see two shorter bricks instead of a long one as before. While waking your machine concentrate on the battery icon and you will notice the wifi-icon popping up just a second after you have woken the screen.
Of course this works also with shorter breaks but I'm not sure what is the shortest interval. Longer sleep period opens the gap in between two wifi-sessions wider. So this makes the working proof easier visible for the eye.
Sort of really a shame that Asus, Google and Nvidia have hybrid, wrongly programmed and even forgotten settings in their setup. (see my thread about the multitasking of the HTC1X http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1599214 Maybe helps your multitasking issue.
But as we know, nobody is perfect .... except for xda!!
And then, many report, they don't have this problem at all. Very strange that not everybody is affected by this blind setting.
If this solution doesn't help your device,I am sorry for you. Maybe you have to stick to the bat-control app and learn how to read it, or RMA your device.
Did the job for me.
So I am ready for summer to join in, got enough juice for the IPS+ screen to stun the sun the whole day lun . Rock'n Roll
Edit 121002:
JellyBeans workaround as well.
Edit 120616:
Thank you Asus that the .28 firmware makes my workaround obsolet. Now get rid of this arm5 coding and let the bugger run !!
Edit 2:
Title changed from 'Asus you owe me a blowjob' to something less attractive for trolls.
Should be an obvious solution for everyone. But took me a hell of time to use the next best (second) obvious setting for my w-lan and get the battery saving.
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Please don't abuse my thread to flame, blame or mob your boss, retailer, dog or whomever. Only confirmation or non-confirmations welcome. If you find another or better or additional solution in the future or the past please feel free to post it. I did not have the time yet to check for the actual amount of powersafe but regarding my normal readings we are gaining the whole lost lot back and don't need to throttle down or ruin our eyes. I reckon the bat is gonna be better because now some of the ASUS optimisation hits some ground.
If you want me to fled off, I have stolen your ideas or you are an ASUS employee with no job-offer, don't PM me.
Thanks
I have been using this setting for a while and while I do get better battery life using the "when plugged in" setting than the newer "disconnect during sleep" setting, in general battery life is still worse in .21 than in previous builds and for me WiFi alone still accounts for more than 60% of my average battery usage according to the battery settings menu. For all of my other Android devices the screen is the largest single user of battery.
It does not happen to everyone. I have it on "never" and as soon as i click the power button, wifi turns off... if i wake the tablet right away (2 or 3 seconds later), i see the wifi reappearing and reconecting. So, for me, the wifi turns off instantly.
In the battery graph my wifi line is nonexistant whenever the tablet is sleeping.
I believe the wifi options are implemented correctly (sort of). But for some reason, it doesnt seem to work for some users.
Another way to save battery is to increase the wifi scanning interval... but that is for when you are using wifi.
I guess, for those experiencing the battery drain, it may be a good temporary workaround to use the solution mentioned by the OP.
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It does not happen to everyone. I have it on "never" and as soon as i click the power button, wifi turns off... if i wake the tablet right away (2 or 3 seconds later), i see the wifi reappearing and reconecting. So, for me, the wifi turns off instantly.
In the battery graph my wifi line is nonexistant whenever the tablet is sleeping.
I believe the wifi options are implemented correctly (sort of). But for some reason, it doesnt seem to work for some users.
Another way to save battery is to increase the wifi scanning interval... but that is for when you are using wifi.
I guess, for those experiencing the battery drain, it may be a good temporary workaround to use the solution mentioned by the OP.
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another way to MAKE SURE you save battery is turn the darn thing off and shutdown and then when you need it's ready to go. I been doing this more recently and it defeats the purpose of tablet, but hey, when i need to use it, after the boot up its on. not trying to be funny.
Let's not get carried away. While a good suggestion it's far from a real solution for all the people that are encountering this issue. It's kind of like suggesting just turning off your tablet when your not using it to prevent battery drain.
prettyboy85712 said:
Let's not get carried away. While a good suggestion it's far from a real solution for all the people that are encountering this issue. It's kind of like suggesting just turning of your tablet when your not using it to prevent battery drain.
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you got me laughing. that was a good one. Op meant well but this tip has been known for a long time.
im still laughing.
demandarin said:
you got me laughing. that was a good one. Op meant well but this tip has been known for a long time.
im still laughing.
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What's even funnier is that the OP is serious about his discovery. Guy probably thinks ASUS owes him something.
Nonetheless, thanks for the redundant tip OP.
Auto flight mode
I always install an auto flight mode program that will turn off the wifi when the screen turns off since most widgets prevents the system from turning it off and going into deep sleep.
almightywhacko said:
I have been using this setting for a while and while I do get better battery life using the "when plugged in" setting than the newer "disconnect during sleep" setting, in general battery life is still worse in .21 than in previous builds and for me WiFi alone still accounts for more than 60% of my average battery usage according to the battery settings menu. For all of my other Android devices the screen is the largest single user of battery.
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Thanks for confirming,
eddymonti said:
It does not happen to everyone. I have it on "never" and as soon as i click the power button, wifi turns off... if i wake the tablet right away (2 or 3 seconds later), i see the wifi reappearing and reconecting. So, for me, the wifi turns off instantly.
In the battery graph my wifi line is nonexistant whenever the tablet is sleeping.
I believe the wifi options are implemented correctly (sort of). But for some reason, it doesnt seem to work for some users.
Another way to save battery is to increase the wifi scanning interval... but that is for when you are using wifi.
I guess, for those experiencing the battery drain, it may be a good temporary workaround to use the solution mentioned by the OP.
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Nice you confirm as well . Unfortunately solutions tend to be temporary, sighh.
flipper2006 said:
another way to MAKE SURE you save battery is turn the darn thing off and shutdown and then when you need it's ready to go. I been doing this more recently and it defeats the purpose of tablet, but hey, when i need to use it, after the boot up its on. not trying to be funny.
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Your way takes far too much time for me to act spontaneous. With my changed settings it's doing it automatically again, just as was intended the 'never' setting. Unless you charge the tablet by cord, the wifi turns off while you put the tablet asleep. I say settings are messed up.
prettyboy85712 said:
Let's not get carried away. While a good suggestion it's far from a real solution for all the people that are encountering this issue. It's kind of like suggesting just turning off your tablet when your not using it to prevent battery drain.
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Don't think you got my point, surely I am not getting yours. you quote your preposter who obviously disagrees with you.
But we both think it sucks, thanks.
demandarin said:
you got me laughing. that was a good one. Op meant well but this tip has been known for a long time.
im still laughing.
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Glad you are having fun and proud you are tolling my thread as well vely sholt time
ungraph said:
What's even funnier is that the OP is serious about his discovery. Guy probably thinks ASUS owes him something.
Nonetheless, thanks for the redundant tip OP.
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You are welcome. You bet I am and I do and please show me the redundance, maybe demandarin can help you while I get a little nap now.
XXRay said:
I always install an auto flight mode program that will turn off the wifi when the screen turns off since most widgets prevents the system from turning it off and going into deep sleep.
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Yeah I seen you mentioning this, but I get rid of bloatware so why would I fill up with supposed stock apps. As I said, worked best for me
Thanks guys for the the exchange, keep on rowing fellas ..
ill be the first one to Thank the OP as no one has. At least he is trying to help and find a solution. Even if it was something already known for the longest time. Sorry if the humor wasn't funny to you. Maybe he didn't know people already knew about this. which is totally fair.
to the OP, have you noticed that when you put wifi to stay on only when plugged in, when in sleep, that it takes a little while for wifi to come back online? meaning if you use the setting you said, then put the prime to sleep unplugged, then wake it back up, wifi doesn't connect back immediately. it takes a few seconds to come back online. that's the only thing I personally don't like about it.
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ill be the first one to Thank the OP as no one has. At least he is trying to help and find a solution. Even if it was something already known for the longest time. Sorry if the humor wasn't funny to you. Maybe he didn't know people already knew about this. which is totally fair.
to the OP, have you noticed that when you put wifi to stay on only when plugged in, when in sleep, that it takes a little while for wifi to come back online? meaning if you use the setting you said, then put the prime to sleep unplugged, then wake it back up, wifi doesn't connect back immediately. it takes a few seconds to come back online. that's the only thing I personally don't like about it.
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yeah but personally this means to me it's working correctly. For the wifi to come back on instantly it would have to keep a connection and just not transfer data, when in deep sleep it completely turns off the wifi radio. When you wake it back up the radio turns back on, and it needs to connect to the AP all over again. This means the wifi was in a deep sleep (actually turned off the tab is in deep sleep) and it is working correctly.
I really wonder why every thread in this forum sooner or later becomes a trolling/flaming thread....
So guys, as usual (*sigh*) please stay on topic.
Trolling and flaming won't be tolerated but will be rewarded by other gifts like infractions and bans.
@OP: You might think about stoping posting in red: It usually implies a high rate of aggressivity towards other members.
Even if this might not be actually true in your case, other members still might missunderstand you.
On topic: This "fix" is really known since like, dunno, Froyo times? At least this setting is there already for ages.
Apart from that it should be obvious that turning off the Wifi drains less power.
However, you had good intentions so don't destroy them by flaming other members.
If you feel attacked by any post, just report it (obviously this goes for all members)
Thanks for clearing up, Diamondback,
What has been known since Froyo x.x is still worth mentioning. Many user have just started their android career because nowadays the hardware and the software are worth it. And once in a while talking about an old known tip is worthwhile especially since nobody else did.
@ demandarin ;-)
Edit on topic (referring to Diamondback):
This was no flame.
Asus shoot themselves in the foot, some people in my thread the same!
Obviously both the feet and so I call trolls by name,
themselves they should blame.
Right? Obviously not, which is a shame.
My only wrong the color of which I was ignorant,
shame on me!
I will change the teasing thread title
from Asus gets busted in Asus will get the game
I've been using this option since day 1. The problem is not that the wifi doesn't sleep. It's more so that it sucks way too much power when it is on.
I have an iPad2 3g as well which I received as a birthday gift so I kept it and with wifi and 3g always on, I still get 5-7 days of use.
On the Prime its dead under 2 days if always on and 3-4 days if off when asleep.
So it's most likely an optimization issue or driver issue.
Maybe the transmit power should go to low when asleep rather than staying strong.
Who knows. Regardless this can be fixed by Asus if they really look into it.
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Elisha said:
I've been using this option since day 1. The problem is not that the wifi doesn't sleep. It's more so that it sucks way too much power when it is on.
I have an iPad2 3g as well which I received as a birthday gift so I kept it and with wifi and 3g always on, I still get 5-7 days of use.
On the Prime its dead under 2 days if always on and 3-4 days if off when asleep.
So it's most likely an optimization issue or driver issue.
Maybe the transmit power should go to low when asleep rather than staying strong.
Who knows. Regardless this can be fixed by Asus if they really look into it.
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Actually the iPad has it's SW architecture on the plus side. I think the high battery drain on the TFP (and/or Android in general) is also strongly linked to the number of apps synching in background.
Maybe it can be fixed with drivers. Lowering transmit power sounds good. Could be that Asus optimized to much for the folks complaining about wifi performance....
The setting to turn off wifi while the tablet sleeps makes no sense for my use case. I mean for a wifi only device, it makes not much sense to turn it's connection to the outside off. How will I then receive notifications on gtalk, mail and so on? If I would like to safe power that way, I rather turn it completely off.
For a phone with 3g / edge data connection it might make sense. This applies for the 3g iPad as well.
I agree, it got a bit worse with .21 but for me battery life is still awesome.
Thanks anyway for bringing it to the mind of new users. Although I wouldn't call this a fix but a workaround.
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Elisha said:
I've been using this option since day 1. The problem is not that the wifi doesn't sleep. It's more so that it sucks way too much power when it is on.
I have an iPad2 3g as well which I received as a birthday gift so I kept it and with wifi and 3g always on, I still get 5-7 days of use.
On the Prime its dead under 2 days if always on and 3-4 days if off when asleep.
So it's most likely an optimization issue or driver issue.
Maybe the transmit power should go to low when asleep rather than staying strong.
Who knows. Regardless this can be fixed by Asus if they really look into it.
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Yes, I agree about the drain but isn't it probably because of the stylish casing! So nothing we can change there, but Asus could clock it down while asleep as you suggest.
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Actually the iPad has it's SW architecture on the plus side. I think the high battery drain on the TFP (and/or .....
I agree, it got a bit worse with .21 but for me battery life is still awesome.
Thanks anyway for bringing it to the mind of new users. Although I wouldn't call this a fix but a workaround.
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You are right I have already changed the op from fix to workaround.
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Actually the iPad has it's SW architecture on the plus side. I think the high battery drain on the TFP (and/or Android in general) is also strongly linked to the number of apps synching in background.
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My iPad2 goes ding ding ding all night. Lots of apps syncing. 3 email accounts. CNN app, and multiple other apps.
But I think iOS uses a very low power state for background sync while in sleep compared to Android.
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Solved my problem.
thank you
Not sure if it's relevant because this was posted for the GS2 but it could also help with wifi drain on the prime.
from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25876666&postcount=3
"FAQ
Q: Wakelocks "wlan_rx_wake" wake up my device constantly what I can do about it?
A: The problem is neither Android nor the kernel, but the router and the (Windows7) network. In the network properties, uncheck "IPv6", disable the service "IP Helper", "Shell Hardware Detection" and "Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service", which provide ongoing Traffic. Then they scored again 98% of deep sleep."
And how you disable ipv6 on your phone/tablet is with a script but the value in the file gets recreated everytime you turn wifi on and off. So if you disable ipv6 then turn wifi off, then back on, ipv6 will be enabled again. I got around this by a tasker profile that will run every time my tablet connects to a wifi network. So it disables ipv6 right away again. You could do this in an init.d script(or in sysctl) as well but then you have the issue of it resetting itself if you turn wifi off/on
If you have tasker create a new profile for when wifi is connected, then run a shell script task, and check run as root. This is the command echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/wlan0/disable_ipv6
to enable it just replace the 1 with a 0. You can also run the command in a terminal window if you just want to test it. I did it for my phone, and I just set it for my prime so I'll see if it drains less battery with it off..
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Yes, I agree about the drain but isn't it probably because of the stylish casing! So nothing we can change there, but Asus could clock it down while asleep as you suggest.
You are right I have already changed the op from fix to workaround.
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I would just like to say thanks and let you know that I had SOD problems on my prime (as bad as up to once every day in frequency) for a very long time since .21 came out, after trying your work around (several weeks ago) ever since I have not had a single SOD sleep of death issue whatsoever.
I always suspected it was dock recharging causing the SOD fault but maybe it was a bum wifi stack or something, so thank you very much my tab is much more stable because the suggestion you've shared with me.
Unfortunately it does not help any flickering or GPU bugs I tend to get on occasion. I truly hate .21 it is so god awful for GPU, SOD and storage I/O.
I should just man up and downgrade but meh, sif i have the time do it
But yeah, thanks heaps, your workaround is an awesome suggestion.
Basically, say I power the phone off at night (10pm - 6am). When I wake up and check Power-->History, I see the following for each of the categories:
Mobile network signal has a gap for the off period
WiFi has a gap for the off period
Awake is FILLED for the off period (solid blue bar for the time the phone was powered down)
Screen on is FILLED for the off period (solid blue bar for the time the phone was powered down)
Can't post screenies unfortunately, and so please see if you can assist without an image.
This is very annoying because the battery is also draining about 5%-10% each evening.
Any ideas for a fix or is there some sort of logical explanation here?
Please help if you can!
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Can you return the phone? It's obviously not supposed to stay awake when you shut it down, so I would return it.
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I'm outside of the 14 day exchange period.
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I'm outside of the 14 day exchange period.
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But you're under the 1 year warranty. Go to an AT&T Corporate store and show them.
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Having exactly the same problem - see my thread here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2394626
Can't work out what's going on, it seems like the phone is not correctly shutting down, and something is keeping it awake when it should be asleep. Very strange.
Just installed wake lock detector. I'm going to assume it has something to do with a software/app keeping it awake. Going to run this today and tonight. I'll let you know what I find.
My screen showed being on all night too, however, I keep my phone plugged in all night so no biggie, I mean. I know it wasn't physically on all night or the screen would have kept me awake. There are many stories online of htc & the gs3s and 4s doing this. 9 times out of ten it was software or an app..
*S¡gned
Yeah, I've installed Wakelock Detector and GSAM Battery Monitor so we will see what happens tonight. I may try flashing a custom kernel or returning to stock if I can't figure anything out.
OK, flashed back to stock and relocked bootloader and still getting this problem intermittently. Can't figure out what it is. Wondering if the device itself is faulty.
This is the 3rd time this has happened to me. If the tablet shuts itself off because of battery is 0% then it will get stuck @ Samsung screen on boot (after charging). I had to factory reset it the first time, the 2nd time got away with clearing the cache. This time looks like its another factory reset. Anyone else having/had this issue? This is a stock device with no mods at all. Any help would be appreciated.
Any reason you are running it down to 0% or is that part of the problem?
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standarduser said:
Any reason you are running it down to 0% or is that part of the problem?
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No particular reason... I leave it in my backpack over the weekend and forget to pull it out and charge it.
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No particular reason... I leave it in my backpack over the weekend and forget to pull it out and charge it.
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As a general rule, Lithium Ion batteries dont like to be completely discharged. I would.put it on the charger and just leave it there for a bit and it should be ok.
That aside, you can adjust some settings so that it doesn't run dead. Set your Wi-Fi not to stay connected when its off. Another very useful app is Greenify. I took it one step further and installed the app called Automate. Then I created a flow that turns off wifi and BY, and then triggers Greenify's hibernate mode, and then it turns the screen off. I put a shortcut to this flow on my home screen so I can trigger it when I'm not going to use the tablet for a while. Usually my tablet will loose 5% max over 24 hours of non-use.
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This is again a system of the wifi power drain bug that samsung continues to ignore, the S2 would last for well over a week on standby just like Ipads.
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This is again a system of the wifi power drain bug that samsung continues to ignore, the S2 would last for well over a week on standby just like Ipads.
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I agree but at this point I am just trying to get my device to boot with out factory reset.
AQF5 build came out today for Korea, trying that now. The way they are increasing the build numbers, hopefully they are actually fixing something. Interestingly this had a modem file too though the SM-T820 is wifi only.
http://updato.com/firmware-archive-s...3AFA163EE8F90B
No dice still with AQF5 KOO firmware today, I officially give up. Likely a hw issue , only reason they have not addressed it across 6 firmware updates. Too bad since the tablet is very decent otherwise. Unlikely this will ever get fixed at this point since this is not a Note 7 type headline grabber. Time to find an used S2 to replace the one I sold or wait on something else.My S3 is going back tomorrow.
Yeah I had to factor reset it again to get it to boot. Its a nice device other than that.