Imported this bad boy to the US, but with Nokia releasing new updates, will they ever reach the US? I have a feeling that it may never be rolled out here... If so are there any other alternatives to update?
(It is unlocked/unbranded and ordered from Handtec)
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Imported this bad boy to the US, but with Nokia releasing new updates, will they ever reach the US? I have a feeling that it may never be rolled out here... If so are there any other alternatives to update?
(It is unlocked/unbranded and ordered from Handtec)
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Did you get to avoid paying VAT on your purchase?
I'm pretty sure the update isn't rolled out by region, more like IMEI groups.
Isn't Market Place done by region your account is registered to? Maybe updates are the same?
You could also try conencting via a VPN in a region where it's released, see if it picks up an update?
I've had two updates so far, so would of thought most people would have had atleast one?
I did get to avoid VAT I'll check again tonight as another update was released. I just haven't received any messages telling me to update. Thanks for the info!
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I did get to avoid VAT I'll check again tonight as another update was released. I just haven't received any messages telling me to update. Thanks for the info!
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Then that's a really good price for it!
I really want this phone, but need to be sure that Internet Sharing will be enabled first, or it's a waste of my money.
Hey, keep us posted would you? I'm getting mine this Monday from Amazon and curious to see if Zune will detect the update in Burbank, Ca.
Need WiFi tethering as I use for my Kindle Touch WiFi, but it's not a deal breaker.
Also, one or two people have posted some anomalies with the update concerning the battery indicator. ..
Hey halfnelson.. does the phone accept your AT&T GSM SIM card as it is or did you have to cut it to a lesser size to fit?
Someone on O2 in Europe wrote they had to cut theirs?
The Lumia uses a microSIM, so yes it would need cutting (unless you had one already, of course).
I trimmed down my GIffgaff one no problem.
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Hey halfnelson.. does the phone accept your AT&T GSM SIM card as it is or did you have to cut it to a lesser size to fit?
Someone on O2 in Europe wrote they had to cut theirs?
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It did accept my regular sim after I cut it. Be sure to do it correctly, or else the contacts won't match up
I researched it and decided to wuss and shell out the $20 for a T-Mobile micro sim.. Will phone activate when I get the phone Monday. Failed too many shop and craft classes to trust myself cutting.
Hey any news on your update?
I've got another ? for the OP.
The website you bought from, with the best price I've seen, does not specific the WCMDA/HSPA bandwidths to differentiate if it's the quad-band or one of the two different tri-bands. Which carrier are you using here in the US and is the 3G fully functioning for you?
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I've got another ? for the OP.
The website you bought from, with the best price I've seen, does not specific the WCMDA/HSPA bandwidths to differentiate if it's the quad-band or one of the two different tri-bands. Which carrier are you using here in the US and is the 3G fully functioning for you?
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I'm on Att and get fully functioning HSPA+. it uses the 850/900/1900/2100 bands for 3g/HSPA+.
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I'm on Att and get fully functioning HSPA+. it uses the 850/900/1900/2100 bands for 3g/HSPA+.
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This is good to know, cuz the product page doesn't list them. I spent waaaay too long last night looking for a UK site that sells quad-band HSPA. Have it narrowed down to two, thanks to your confirmation here.
I'm kinda keen on the cyan.
Although many sites say they don't have the right bands, all the lumia devices have the bands I said above.
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Although many sites say they don't have the right bands, all the lumia devices have the bands I said above.
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Pull the sim tray out and look at the model number.. will be RM-801 or something... what model do you have?
One Update Came Through - T-Mobile USA
So I have..
OS: 7.10.7740.16
Firmware: 1600.2475.7720.11414
But I am only getting Edge Data.
Have Hard Reset and I'm hoping that this is just a new SIM getting onto the system (customer service warned me to allow 2 hrs for full services)
Otherwise could be a deal breaker.
Hoping not; a chap at the TMobile store in Burbank where I live said another customer came in with the same phone bragging away on it so hope this is just a temp thing..
Beautiful device though!!
The Lumia doesn't do AWS, EDGE is the best you'll get from T-Mobile US.
Yep; I found that out... Hopefully AT&T will buy out T-Mobile..
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Yep; I found that out... Hopefully AT&T will buy out T-Mobile..
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Hopefully AT&T won't be able to buy T-Mobile. Talk about market concentration and increased rates. The acquisition doesn't mean that tmo phones will magically start working. The changes you'd hope to see would not be immediate.
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Hey guys
I just came back from the Launch of HTC flyer in singapore & found out some of these information. Not sure if it has been said before.
1) Flyer is not capable of making voice calls, only video calls via skype (& voice call via skype)
2) Flyer will be receiving an update of honeycomb
3) Flyer will be on sale in Singapore (3G + wifi) for a retail price of SG$1068.
-They say it will be cheaper when it's on sale
4) If im not wrong it's a 32GB model
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Hmm, yeah these are the crucial information. Now my question is.. can we somehow make a custom rom to perhaps port phone.apk from desire S to HTC flyer? It's such a waste that this phone can't make phone calls.
I asked the representatives why and they told me it's cos they don't want consumer to feel irritated having to charge both the phone & the bluetooth headset.
Cheers to all of you who plans to buy this phone
thanks for the info. I believe everybody knows that the device is not able to do voice calls....All blogs on the web describing that, but I believe our dev will succeed porting the phone.apk. But at least the SMS & MMS? What you found out?
It's way too expensive.
If has the communication device (radio) for making calls it sure will be done here.
thinking of buying this one... need more reviews . Which store will it be available?
OK, not only am I mad at HTC mail support to have previously confirmed to me that "The Flyer will definitaly make phone calls" (I keep my hopes for the European version to allow that, but it seems it won't), but the fact that it doesn't is pretty much a dealbreaker to me : I would'nt mind using it as my every day phone, since it does offer a better experience for movie watching in the train or web browsing anywhere (I make very little phone calls), but the cost only (barely) seemed justified by the fact that it had phone internals...
So you don't think Google Talk with video and voice will work for this?
http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/2011/04/video-chat-on-your-android-phone.html
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I keep my hopes for the European version to allow that, but it seems it won't
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the preorder specs on Clove (UK) says it will make calls
http://www.clove.co.uk/htc-flyer
GSM/GPRS Yes
Frequencies 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G/HSPA Yes
Frequencies 900/2100MHZ
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the preorder specs on Clove (UK) says it will make calls
http://www.clove.co.uk/htc-flyer
GSM/GPRS Yes
Frequencies 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G/HSPA Yes
Frequencies 900/2100MHZ
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Thanks for the info. If that turns out to be true, I'm gonna be so broke next month
Just because the device supports the required frequencies doesn't mean it will be able to make phone calls out of the box. My T-mobile Galaxy Tab supports the right frequencies too but the phone.apk is crippled so calls can't be made. Even if you flash a custom rom to enable the phone features, you are blocked from 3G access and limited to Edge speeds on the GT on T-mobile in the US.
You might not be limited in the same ways on European carriers but it really depends on how much they want to limit how you use the device on their networks.
Just make sure it works the way you want it to before spending your money.
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Just because the device supports the required frequencies doesn't mean it will be able to make phone calls out of the box. My T-mobile Galaxy Tab supports the right frequencies too but the phone.apk is crippled so calls can't be made. Even if you flash a custom rom to enable the phone features, you are blocked from 3G access and limited to Edge speeds on the GT on T-mobile in the US.
You might not be limited in the same ways on European carriers but it really depends on how much they want to limit how you use the device on their networks.
Just make sure it works the way you want it to before spending your money.
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Don't worry, I never buy a device without being absolutely sure it fullfills my needs.
My last hope for the Flyer is it could be like the Galaxy Tab : being unable to place a phonecall in the US, but being able in Europe. I definitely wouldn't buy a such expensive 7 inch tab if it doesn't replace my cellphone completely. I'd rather go for a 10 inch (probably Transformer) for that use.
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but it really depends on how much they want to limit how you use the device on their networks.
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just FYI, outside of the USA these practices don't happen, at all, and i know that, in australia at least, it would be illegal to do that
Hi Guys,
Where can I buy casing for flyer in Singapore?
Either leather or barely there type.
I got my flyer thru StarHub.
liaobp1983 said:
Hi Guys,
Where can I buy casing for flyer in Singapore?
Either leather or barely there type.
I got my flyer thru StarHub.
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You can try a mobile phone accessories shop at Plaza Sing basement 2 in front of Carrefour. I bought my screen protector there. There are 2 different cases for Flyer. I didn't get any and ordered Melkco online.
Hi, you can get casing from sim lim square now.. Few options available.
2 shops at level 1 center arena. they sell same casing but at diff price. I bought it there at a price of $35.
Later then found that level4 also got a shop selling casing. Shop located near to the lift selling many casings for iphone to Samsung Tab and HTC... The shop also do repairing for iphones and other phones.
hi guys, I want to know about the price right now. . .
because in Indonesia the price is going down. . . .
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hi guys, I want to know about the price right now. . .
because in Indonesia the price is going down. . . .
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I only know that 1 mobile shop in Singapore is selling at S$760.00 Wifi 3G 32GB
Wondering how many Singapore User bought the Flyer and has rooted and using the phone features....
I'm 1 that have it s-odd -> rooted -> Enabled GSM voice call...
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Wondering how many Singapore User bought the Flyer and has rooted and using the phone features....
I'm 1 that have it s-off -> rooted -> Enabled GSM voice call...
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I only know that 1 mobile shop in Singapore is selling at S$760.00 Wifi 3G 32GB
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so, if I buy it in Singapore, I'll get lower than S$760, right?
I thought there is a tax something in the airport. . .
mmm . . . where did you ask the price? I mean, the shop and location. . .
thank you very much
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so, if I buy it in Singapore, I'll get lower than S$760, right?
I thought there is a tax something in the airport. . .
mmm . . . where did you ask the price? I mean, the shop and location. . .
thank you very much
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The price has gone down to S$740.00 but you cannot claim tax -refund at the airport as it is not a GST registered company..
Please check their website : www.mobilesquare.com.sg
Hi all,
I've decided to bite the bullet and switch carriers just so I can upgrade from my HD7 to the Titan. Keep in mind I will be unlocking the phone for use on Telus in Canada which is compatible with AT&T 3G.
However I am trying to figure out if there is any benefit to getting the AT&T variant over the unlocked, unbranded model.
I see that on the box for the AT&T model it shows 4G compatible which is cool. So I would assume that using it on Telus would also give me 4G speeds. On the specs for the unlocked model it only shows 3G so I'm wondering if that's not entirely true. I also read somewhere HTC may have included Beats technology in the AT&T version but I doubt it since I haven't heard anything else about that.
I think I'd prefer an unbranded model over the AT&T one but also wondering if anything comes bundled as well that might make one better over the other. Also are the hardware specs identical?
Any help on this would be great
should be no difference or
the only difference is it would be sim locked for their network only the unlocked will work on either telus or at&t without trouble, you could work on sim unlocking the at&t version and that might be a little troublesome, I could be wrong but telus and at&t are promoting FAUX G which is still using 3g with increased speed boost if I am getting this right, hspa+
so the hardware is the same with some minor cosmetic differences (carrier branding vs none) the os and ui with msft strict requirements will be pretty much the same and you could easily uninstall carrier bundled apps, since you do live in canada I would just get the unlocked euro one, you will and I do notice that it switches from H to 3G and then E for Edge every now and then, but if you know how to do it get the at&t version and sim unlock it
Well the unlocked unbranded version uses 3G on 850/900/2100 MHz. AT&T uses 850/1900 MHz. It appears to me that I'm getting HSPA on my Titan, but not HSPA+, but I haven't really tested it very much. You'll have to check what Telus uses for HSPA+ to check if that will work.
Holding down the Windows/Start button brings up the Microsoft Tellme voice activated stuff. It works fine, but the lady has a British accent. This isn't a big deal.
The charger that ships with the unlocked version is the British Standards 1363 plug. Mine also had a BS 1363 to NEMA 5 adapter (aka UK to US), but it was separate from the box, so I think the company I purchased from, eXpansys, threw that in for free. Of course it includes a micro USB charging cable, so any computer USB port or USB wall charger would work, even if you can't use the included charger.
and you know what too with that womans british accent i think the phone is programmed to understand english with an accent, my voice to text experience has been less than stellar lately and my british accent is terrible LOL
Thanks everyone for the info!!
However I'm curious as to which model will give me HSPA+... If anyone can confirm that I'd appreciate it
it dont matter IMO, it's so fast already i love it
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Thanks everyone for the info!!
However I'm curious as to which model will give me HSPA+... If anyone can confirm that I'd appreciate it
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Get the ATT version. The unlocked Euro version will not connect to the same 3G bands. As for 4G don't get your hopes up there is no real 4G yet. Until a standard is set any one can say it has 4g if it. 000001 MB over the Max 3g connection.
Well I took my chances and just bought the ATT version off a seller on eBay. We made the deal for $630US incl. shipping. I don't know what the phone sell for off contract but it's the cheapest one I could find that wasn't already open or used. He also sent in a request for an unlock code for it so I'm hoping we'll be able to get one.
I remember the horror when I couldn't get an unlock code for my HD7 and had to wait a week before the codes were available.
Anyway.. it's being sent by UPS so should have it by Weds next week Now I hope it's not a lemon or I'm screwed!!
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Well I took my chances and just bought the ATT version off a seller on eBay. We made the deal for $630US incl. shipping. I don't know what the phone sell for off contract but it's the cheapest one I could find that wasn't already open or used. He also sent in a request for an unlock code for it so I'm hoping we'll be able to get one.
I remember the horror when I couldn't get an unlock code for my HD7 and had to wait a week before the codes were available.
Anyway.. it's being sent by UPS so should have it by Weds next week Now I hope it's not a lemon or I'm screwed!!
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Go to the Ace hack kit thread for the inspire and read it. Unlocking it is simple as long as you read the manual and have a little common sense.
zelendel said:
Go to the Ace hack kit thread for the inspire and read it. Unlocking it is simple as long as you read the manual and have a little common sense.
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Not sure I understood you correctly. I followed your advice to here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952352&highlight=Ace+hack+kit
This is for an Android device and it's not clear to me what the purpose of this hack is for and how it's related to the HTC Titan.
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Not sure I understood you correctly. I followed your advice to here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952352&highlight=Ace+hack+kit
This is for an Android device and it's not clear to me what the purpose of this hack is for and how it's related to the HTC Titan.
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Oops sorry wrong phone. That will teach me to bebppsting in 12 threads at the same time. Lol. Forget I said that
I have the AT&T model that I got at a Windows-Phone inner circle thing, and it is HSPA+, I unlocked mine at cellunlock.net as well.
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and you know what too with that womans british accent i think the phone is programmed to understand english with an accent, my voice to text experience has been less than stellar lately and my british accent is terrible LOL
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My dead-end problem.
mine come from UK, and yes, the lady inside the phone almost never recognize my English Voice Pattern, even the simplest: IMDB.
It is funny when i am foreign, i was studying British English at home and now only Americans can understand me. LMAO.
I mean, my HD7 T-Mobile almost never have trouble in using the voice to open stuffs, but my UK Titan is a pain in the ass.
By the way, i would recommend double check everything because my turn-by-turn Navigation of Bing maps doesn't work at US for UK version. If you are really need Turn-by-Turn, i would recommend the AT&T version because it is designed for US Road, maybe Canada too. But we also have other alter maps like Nokia Maps is coming out, or navigon... blah.
If not, the Sim-Free Quad-band Unlocked Titan from Europe is also sweet. I can hit home anytime and use any sim without paying $30-$45 for an unlock code and worry about 3G Frequency since it is the world phone.
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My dead-end problem.
mine come from UK, and yes, the lady inside the phone almost never recognize my English Voice Pattern, even the simplest: IMDB.
It is funny when i am foreign, i was studying British English at home and now only Americans can understand me. LMAO.
I mean, my HD7 T-Mobile almost never have trouble in using the voice to open stuffs, but my UK Titan is a pain in the ass.
By the way, i would recommend double check everything because my turn-by-turn Navigation of Bing maps doesn't work at US for UK version. If you are really need Turn-by-Turn, i would recommend the AT&T version because it is designed for US Road, maybe Canada too. But we also have other alter maps like Nokia Maps is coming out, or navigon... blah.
If not, the Sim-Free Quad-band Unlocked Titan from Europe is also sweet. I can hit home anytime and use any sim without paying $30-$45 for an unlock code and worry about 3G Frequency since it is the world phone.
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and you know what too with that womans british accent i think the phone is programmed to understand english with an accent, my voice to text experience has been less than stellar lately and my british accent is terrible LOL
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That is true. I have this problem and no solutions exists yet. "Display language" in the Settings has "English" with no US/UK selection. It is UK effectively. Bing Maps will therefore have no voice guidance, and speech accessibility (announcing caller name, etc.) don't work, and you need to have a British accent for it to understand you.
I guess we'll have to wait for an AT&T ROM to flash on our devices.
this is true! i just realized my bing maps doesn't work either, it shows my location and will tell me where something is in relation to it but it cannot give me directions, thank god for the turn by turn navigation app which i use frequently, bing maps cannot provide me directions, and it would be great if my voice to text would work as well, yes we will have to wait for some cooked roms to come our way,
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my thing is and I don't know if any other us euro titan owners are experiencing this, but i have a great rate and unlimited data plan with at&t because my device is not recognized in their system, if I were to install and at&t rom in the future , would ma bell immediately see my titan and slap a capped data plan on my account?
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this is true! i just realized my bing maps doesn't work either, it shows my location and will tell me where something is in relation to it but it cannot give me directions, thank god for the turn by turn navigation app which i use frequently, bing maps cannot provide me directions, and it would be great if my voice to text would work as well, yes we will have to wait for some cooked roms to come our way,
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my thing is and I don't know if any other us euro titan owners are experiencing this, but i have a great rate and unlimited data plan with at&t because my device is not recognized in their system, if I were to install and at&t rom in the future , would ma bell immediately see my titan and slap a capped data plan on my account?
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Starting today, they will probably recognize your phone... lol
Doesn't matter which ROM it runs, they can see it as "HTC Titan" and apply any restrictions they wish.
From the ATT site on the Titan specs: *4G speeds delivered by HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul.
Also, ATT sells the Titan new for $549.99 without contract and free shipping.
See attachment
I was in a mall today with 2 outlets for the AT&T Titan: the Microsoft Store and an AT&T store.
I entered the IMEI for both shops' floor models into htcimeiunlock.com, and for both of them the site claimed to have the codes immediately available, for $25. I've had good luck with that site in the past so I believe that at least for the first batch of Titans the codes are readily available for $25 or so.
Contrast that with AT&T, who probably won't have or give the codes for months, if ever.
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I was in a mall today with 2 outlets for the AT&T Titan: the Microsoft Store and an AT&T store.
I entered the IMEI for both shops' floor models into htcimeiunlock.com, and for both of them the site claimed to have the codes immediately available, for $25. I've had good luck with that site in the past so I believe that at least for the first batch of Titans the codes are readily available for $25 or so.
Contrast that with AT&T, who probably won't have or give the codes for months, if ever.
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what codes are you referring to? the $25 app cards? everyone is going to get them, i don't see why at&t would take time on this, this is sanctioned by msft, all you have to do is go on the msft's own side enter your imei proof of purchase and voila you get a $25 app card mailed to you i believe
and also at&t is a great network! they 10x better coverage than tmobile, i've had horrible experiences with tmobile letting me down, you can have the bestest shiniest most advanced phone out there and but its a useless paperweight if your carrier lets you down
"Codes" == SIM unlock codes (thought that was obvious from my mention of "htcimeiunlock.com").
Good luck getting them from AT&T any time in the next few months, even for a phone purchased at unsubsidized price.
Not a big deal for some folks, but some of us like to travel abroad with our phones and use them with local SIM cards, which makes unlocking critical. Fortunately, there's a non-AT&T source for the codes for HTC devices... you're SOL if you want to travel with a Samsung Mango phone!
Hello everyone,
I've been an android user for a year and a half now, but after getting a grip of a WP device I am surely making the switch, and the Titan has caught my eyes from the first sight!
I was wondering if anyone can give me some advice regarding where to get the phone from and what version should I get?
I live in the Middle-East and the phone is currently unavailable here but I want to get it from the internet, there are many versions of the Titan and I am not quite sure which one should I buy!
Here are the options I got and I don't know which one I should go with:
1- The AT&T version: I've read that the AT&T version had some problems regarding voice quality but its the cheapest among them all (around 500$ and I need to unlock it of course).
2- The international version -don't know what's it called really- factory unlocked on amazon for 675$.
3- The UK version on ebay for 600$, factory unlocked.
Considering the fact that I am kinda a noob regarding these stuff, I would like to hear your suggestions, what difference is there between all these three and what should I get for someone living on the other side of the world, also would like to know what the UK version differs from the others.
and is there a chance that the phone won't work with my carrier, what info should I ask them for and check before buying the device ?
thanks a lot for your time, any help is much appreciated
ATT is slow to release updates so I would recommend an international unlocked. You are gonna love the big screen and all the iPhones will be jealous saying it's too big. That's when I set my titan on top of theirs and say Iphone? I see no stinkin iPhone
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ATT is slow to release updates so I would recommend an international unlocked. You are gonna love the big screen and all the iPhones will be jealous saying it's too big. That's when I set my titan on top of theirs and say Iphone? I see no stinkin iPhone
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I see, so that is a disadvantage for the AT&T version.
Umm, ok what about the UK version, what's wrong with it more like what is the difference between it and the international one?
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ATT is slow to release updates so I would recommend an international unlocked. You are gonna love the big screen and all the iPhones will be jealous saying it's too big. That's when I set my titan on top of theirs and say Iphone? I see no stinkin iPhone
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had an iclone user pick mine up the other day and pretend it was a riot shield. "it's just sooooo big!" wait until the iclone 5 has a bigger screen, suddenly this form factor will become "magical." &^%$ers!
The AT&T one will *never* tether on any network other than AT&T. Not sure about the UK one.
You might want to investigate whether the int'l unlocked one can.
If it were me I'd get the int'l unlocked one, *unless* I specifically needed a UMTS band that that one does not offer.
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The AT&T one will *never* tether on any network other than AT&T. Not sure about the UK one.
You might want to investigate whether the int'l unlocked one can.
If it were me I'd get the int'l unlocked one, *unless* I specifically needed a UMTS band that that one does not offer.
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UK unlocked here - tethers with everything!
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UK unlocked here - tethers with everything!
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since you own the UK version, may I ask you what differ is there between it and the international version ? (the UK version is cheaper by 75$) but I don't know if it'll work as I live in the middle-east and I don't know what to ask my carrier for to know?
thanks
I am not entirely sure about international version. But I think it probably not much difference hardware wise for sure. Since certain features of OS are limited to certain countries ir might be the case. E.g. Bing features, tell me services etc. It might be helpful if I say that even in UK version the radio is set to International.
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I am not entirely sure about international version. But I think it probably not much difference hardware wise for sure. Since certain features of OS are limited to certain countries ir might be the case. E.g. Bing features, tell me services etc. It might be helpful if I say that even in UK version the radio is set to International.
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ok that's great to know, features like Tell Me and others aren't that important to me and honestly it'll help me get a British accent, hehe
but the most important thing that there isn't any big changes, stuff like the market won't work or these kind of things, right?
thanks for your help
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ok that's great to know, features like Tell Me and others aren't that important to me and honestly it'll help me get a British accent, hehe
but the most important thing that there isn't any big changes, stuff like the market won't work or these kind of things, right?
thanks for your help
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Do a search though. In some countries Market won't have certain apps. The market ideally should work in all countries but some have lesser apps than others e.g. we don't have the Netflix app in the UK. Check out what Market looks like for your specific country. Unlikely you will have all the apps. It's more to do with MS sorting out the legalities etc for each country gradually..
iFan has their own bias, so i won't talk about it here.
AT&T Version always slow in the Update since AT&T have to test it and do whatever they want to the update before it can be published.
I have the X310e version from UK, unlocked and totally happy with it.
And with the international version, you have the "HTC" agent color, which is removed on the AT&T Titan.
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iFan has their own bias, so i won't talk about it here.
AT&T Version always slow in the Update since AT&T have to test it and do whatever they want to the update before it can be published.
I have the X310e version from UK, unlocked and totally happy with it.
And with the international version, you have the "HTC" agent color, which is removed on the AT&T Titan.
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HTC agent colour is also present in the UK version. So does this mean only the ATT doesn't have it? or is UK and international one the same thing?
The Apps in the market will be dependent on the Country given in your Live-Account. This can't be changed afterwards, so if you use an US-Account and someday Microsoft extends their Market to your country you're either stuck with the US Account (don't know if it will accept a Non-US-Creditcard - it doesn't accept european cards for US-Accounts as far as I remember) or you lose the Apps which are bound onto your US-Account and create a new one.
So those things will most likely have to be sorted out firt. The HTC-Titan as far as I know supports the same 3G Bands in all it's variants which makes it usable on pretty much any UMTS Network worldwide with only a few exceptions. The exact supported bands can be seen on the HTC Titans product page on htc.com
The UK version as far as I know is hardwarewise exactly the same as the international one, only difference might be in what UI languages are available (all keyboard languages are present since the Mango Update anyway although Middle-Eastern-Language support is currently expected to arrive with the Tango-Update - meaning it's not available yet).
Hope this helps and provides you with a rough idea of what troubles can arise.
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The HTC-Titan as far as I know supports the same 3G Bands in all it's variants
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The USA version is 850/1900/2100.
The UK version is 850/900/2100. The international version is probably the same as that one, but not sure.
The OP probably only needs 2100, so any of them will probably be just fine.
Now if we could only get a variant with AWS...
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HTC agent colour is also present in the UK version. So does this mean only the ATT doesn't have it? or is UK and international one the same thing?
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AT&T has a choice what to do with the ROM for their Phone. and they choose to remove the Agent Color HTC. I have heard it from multiple sources.
All others versions has the HTC Agent color.
StevieBallz said:
The Apps in the market will be dependent on the Country given in your Live-Account. This can't be changed afterwards, so if you use an US-Account and someday Microsoft extends their Market to your country you're either stuck with the US Account (don't know if it will accept a Non-US-Creditcard - it doesn't accept european cards for US-Accounts as far as I remember) or you lose the Apps which are bound onto your US-Account and create a new one.
So those things will most likely have to be sorted out firt. The HTC-Titan as far as I know supports the same 3G Bands in all it's variants which makes it usable on pretty much any UMTS Network worldwide with only a few exceptions. The exact supported bands can be seen on the HTC Titans product page on htc.com
The UK version as far as I know is hardwarewise exactly the same as the international one, only difference might be in what UI languages are available (all keyboard languages are present since the Mango Update anyway although Middle-Eastern-Language support is currently expected to arrive with the Tango-Update - meaning it's not available yet).
Hope this helps and provides you with a rough idea of what troubles can arise.
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okay , let's say I get the UK unlocked version and use it in my country "Jordan" , I don't know where I read it , but as it seems every phone is region locked , and if I get a UK phone for instance I won't be able to get an update to my language for example (which is Arabic) .. is that correct ?
I don't know, its safer to get the international version even tho it's a 100 bucks more expensive , but I thought about asking you guys cause I don't know a lot about these stuff.
Thanks
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This can't be changed afterwards, so if you use an US-Account and someday Microsoft extends their Market to your country you're either stuck with the US Account (don't know if it will accept a Non-US-Creditcard - it doesn't accept european cards for US-Accounts as far as I remember) or you lose the Apps which are bound onto your US-Account and create a new one.
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I changed the country my live account was associated with. It's a bit hard but you can do it. There is a how-to online if you search for it.
[Q] Tempted to order the AT&T Lumia 920 unlocked from Expansys, what will be broken?
Because the Rogers Lumia 920 is black only and I am actually a Bell customer here in Canada and I have a decent deal with them without a contract, I am tempted to order the unlocked Lumia 920 from expansys.ca.
However, what will not work if I do that? From a cursory glance at the Internet, it seems that MMS and possibly Internet Tethering may not work. Has anyone tried this yet?
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Because the Rogers Lumia 920 is black only and I am actually a Bell customer here in Canada and I have a decent deal with them without a contract, I am tempted to order the unlocked Lumia 920 from expansys.ca.
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I just saw the category is "unlocked". It would be interesting to know how they can sell unlocked AT&T versions.
psalmu said:
Where do you see that it's unlocked? A high price alone does not mean that.
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Expansys sells unlocked phones That's what they do.
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Expansys sells unlocked phones That's what they do.
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I'd get that in writing or be darn sure you can return it. Then...order and play with it to see. Then report back here
I am not at all concerned that it will be available unlocked. I am concerned that all the features of an unlocked Lumia 920 will work on Bell. Specifically in the past users have had issues with MMS and Internet Tethering... I am hoping somebody else has jumped on this device from expansys.ca and can share their experiences.
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I am not at all concerned that it will be available unlocked. I am concerned that all the features of an unlocked Lumia 920 will work on Bell. Specifically in the past users have had issues with MMS and Internet Tethering... I am hoping somebody else has jumped on this device from expansys.ca and can share their experiences.
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BTW, the unlocked version from Expansys Canada is $800. You may want to check out Clove, where it is priced at $630. I would assume that tethering should work on an international unlocked version. I may check out the ones from Clove, rather than buy a (hard to find) Rogers version.
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BTW, the unlocked version from Expansys Canada is $800. You may want to check out Clove, where it is priced at $630. I would assume that tethering should work on an international unlocked version. I may check out the ones from Clove, rather than buy a (hard to find) Rogers version.
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Unless I am mistaken, the international version will not work with Bell's LTE network. Bell requires 1700MHz currently don't they? http://www.clove.co.uk/nokia-lumia-920
The LTE frequencies listed on the Clove website are 800 / 900/ 1800/ 2100 / 2600. The AT&T device does support 1700. I don't want HSPA+ if I can get LTE.
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Unless I am mistaken, the international version will not work with Bell's LTE network. Bell requires 1700MHz currently don't they? http://www.clove.co.uk/nokia-lumia-920
The LTE frequencies listed on the Clove website are 800 / 900/ 1800/ 2100 / 2600. The AT&T device does support 1700. I don't want HSPA+ if I can get LTE.
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Good catch!
The LTE Bands listed on the international version are 800/900/1800/2100/2600 while the Rogers version has 700/850/1700/1900/2100.
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Good catch!
The LTE Bands listed on the international version are 800/900/1800/2100/2600 while the Rogers version has 700/850/1700/1900/2100.
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The AT&T version also supports 700/1700 for LTE:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/12/nokia-lumia-920-for-att-review/
Sot it should work. Why are you so sure that Expansys isn't able to unlock the phones? I am hoping to hear back from them tomorrow. The Nexus 4 is starting to look pretty compelling at this point, no hoops to jump through and a great price. I just really like Windows Phone and am excited about it but I do have limits.
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The AT&T version also supports 700/1700 for LTE:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/12/nokia-lumia-920-for-att-review/
Sot it should work. Why are you so sure that Expansys isn't able to unlock the phones? .
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Just a guess, but I think most of the hesitation around unlocking has to do with the fact that there is apparently an AT&T exclusivity agreement, and that sales of unlocked phones is prohibited by that. Nokia really didn't do themselves any favors if this is the case.
I honestly can't believe that Microsoft didn't set it up so you could order them straight from MS, and set it up like the Nexus 4... but then this type of reasoning requires logic, which it seems most companies in this business are completely bereft of.
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Just a guess, but I think most of the hesitation around unlocking has to do with the fact that there is apparently an AT&T exclusivity agreement, and that sales of unlocked phones is prohibited by that. Nokia really didn't do themselves any favors if this is the case.
I honestly can't believe that Microsoft didn't set it up so you could order them straight from MS, and set it up like the Nexus 4... but then this type of reasoning requires logic, which it seems most companies in this business are completely bereft of.
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Oh I know the phone arrives @ AT&T locked. But most carriers will now unlock them for a fee. Rogers charges $50, Bell charges $75. I am assuming that AT&T does something similar, and thus outfits like Expansys can take care of this for you (and take care of importing and other niceties) and sell the phone at a premium? I emailed them about it, hope to hear back soon.
Windows Phone 8 includes MMS setup now, so there's no need for a Nokia-supplied network setup app and there's little worry about getting MMS working.
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Oh I know the phone arrives @ AT&T locked. But most carriers will now unlock them for a fee. Rogers charges $50, Bell charges $75. I am assuming that AT&T does something similar, and thus outfits like Expansys can take care of this for you (and take care of importing and other niceties) and sell the phone at a premium? I emailed them about it, hope to hear back soon.
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Reports are trickling out that AT&T is refusing to provide unlock codes for the 920's. Not sure how true that information is, but I would be cautious!
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Reports are trickling out that AT&T is refusing to provide unlock codes for the 920's. Not sure how true that information is, but I would be cautious!
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So I emailed Expansys, they confirmed the AT&T Lumia 920 IS unlocked. However, reports on the Nokia Canada Facebook page indicate that a user on a different network could NOT get MMS nor tethering to work on an unlocked Rogers 920. I'd imagine that the AT&T would have the same problem. *sigh* almost ready to give up here. Nokia has made it basically almost impossible to get an unlocked Lumia in North America. They obviously hold Canadian customers in contempt. Perhaps they don't even deserve my business. It's too bad its a nice phone Super discouraged right now.
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So I emailed Expansys, they confirmed the AT&T Lumia 920 IS unlocked. However, reports on the Nokia Canada Facebook page indicate that a user on a different network could NOT get MMS nor tethering to work on an unlocked Rogers 920. I'd imagine that the AT&T would have the same problem. *sigh* almost ready to give up here. Nokia has made it basically almost impossible to get an unlocked Lumia in North America. They obviously hold Canadian customers in contempt. Perhaps they don't even deserve my business. It's too bad its a nice phone Super discouraged right now.
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I totally feel your frustration. I too am with Bell and want a 920. my problem is I want a RED one. and rogers for some insane reason only carries black. (rogers logo color is what? RED)
I have been hunting around for a unlocked RED 920 sense its launch. all I keep finding are the UK versions of the phone.
I have gotten so confused with trying to figure out which phone supports Bell LTE that I may be giving up soon.
I don't want to toss out 6-800 $ for a phone that only partly works. the whole reason I am in the market for a new phone is wifi tethering.
lets see what comes first, nexus 4 in stock or me locating a red 920 for bell network. (heck I would settle for a white one now)
Going by NaviFirm, there's a red Rogers variant. Hope you get that. The Access Point app has worked perfectly for me for tethering and MMS.
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I'll be traveling to Italy (mostly Rome) in the near future and want to know if the phone will work there. Has anyone had success?
I've checked ATT's site and talked with a CSR and they claim it will work. However, they said the same thing for my old One X when I went to Morocco and Portugal last summer and the phone did NOT work there. I've checked the One's bands, and a number of them are compatible between ATT and local Italian carriers, but again...this was also the case in Morocco/Portugal.
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I'll be traveling to Italy (mostly Rome) in the near future and want to know if the phone will work there. Has anyone had success?
I've checked ATT's site and talked with a CSR and they claim it will work. However, they said the same thing for my old One X when I went to Morocco and Portugal last summer and the phone did NOT work there. I've checked the One's bands, and a number of them are compatible between ATT and local Italian carriers, but again...this was also the case in Morocco/Portugal.
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You would have to get AT&T to give you an unlock code or buy one from many providers. Otherwise you will not be able to use another carriers SIM card. So yes it will work but you will have to jump through some hoops. Without a SIM unlock it will only work on an AT&T network.
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You would have to get AT&T to give you an unlock code or buy one from many providers. Otherwise you will not be able to use another carriers SIM card. So yes it will work but you will have to jump through some hoops. Without a SIM unlock it will only work on an AT&T network.
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Understood. I had international roaming capabilities enabled on my account and have been told I can roam on any network operating on the frequencies the One uses. I was also told that with my One X last year and it didn't work, though my g/fs SGS3 did so clearly it's possible.
They won't Sim-unlock my device because the line I'm. On is under contract until May.
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Understood. I had international roaming capabilities enabled on my account and have been told I can roam on any network operating on the frequencies the One uses. I was also told that with my One X last year and it didn't work, though my g/fs SGS3 did so clearly it's possible.
They won't Sim-unlock my device because the line I'm. On is under contract until May.
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Even though it is contract, you should be able to buy an unlock code from the many providers you will get when you Google for them. Most charge in the range of 10 to 30 bucks and can get you a code in a few minutes to a few hours.
Just pick one and then do a Google on reviews for that one as some are shady..
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Even though it is contract, you should be able to buy an unlock code from the many providers you will get when you Google for them. Most charge in the range of 10 to 30 bucks and can get you a code in a few minutes to a few hours.
Just pick one and then do a Google on reviews for that one as some are shady..
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Thanks, understood, though my question stems in that I want to give my contact information to someone I need to contact upon arrival, and If I can't call - or they can't call me - when I get there, it's going to be a huge pain. They wont have my number if I get a local sim, and I wont know it ahead of time. The last thing I want to do as soon as I arrive is rush around with my stuff trying to find a cell phone to store and hope they can give me a sim unlock code. it's a last resort, for sure.