[Q] question about multiboot and back ups - Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Ok.
i am interested in having a go at cm7 bull. however i have just set up uruk so it is perfect and i spent all day tinkering and learning yesterday and have no wish to screw it all up.
so is there anyway i can have them both installed and then choose which operating system to boot upon start up?
also i backed both data and system up yesterday but they didnt work when restored. so i have now backed it again and have a question. if i am running uruk1.6rc4 do i need to install 1.5 and then upgrade it to 1.6rc4 before attempting any restore of the back up? or can i simply install 1.5 and then use the back ups to upgrade it bring it all back to how it was before.
i ask because yesterday i had uruk running really well then i tried the oc kernal. it was fast but caused lots of fcs and so i wiped it all and started from scratch but couldnt for the life of me get the back ups restored correctly.
any help on these things most welcome.

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[Q] OCLF + nandroid - OCLF + JI6 = infinite FC closes on boot

Apologies if this is the wrong forum.
The update notice came through on my phone yesterday afternoon. From reading on here I knew that a number of people were having problems with it. Like a meth addicted crackwhore I couldn't say no.
Before saying yes, I did make a backup.
Here's what I had on my phone beforehand:
Modified swype overlay
Modified battery icon
OCLF 2.1+
GPS fix update
I'd renamed the startup video so it wouldn't show
I'd replaced the startup sound with my own
I think that's all.
I did a nandroid backup before applying the update and even made a copy of the backup just in case.
I undid the lagfix but - perhaps stupidly - left all the other updates in place.
After applying the update my phone was stuck at the vibrant screen right after boot. No amount of waiting - 30 minutes the first time - did any good.
I've been through several rounds of flashing using the second round of steps in this thread but the best that happens is when the phone boots I see the stock home and the media,calendar,(+a few others I can't recall) FC continuously and the home shows a bunch of missing widget boxes.
If I do a nandroid restore I strangely end up with the hung vibrant screen again. It's like it's automatically applying the update or something other odd like that.
I can repartition and flash stock or the updated rom and things are working fine but I'd really rather not lose my data.
It occurred to me this morning that I might have done the backup before removing the lag fix. I'm guessing the backup won't recreate the ext2 partition and that's why things are FC'ing like mad?
I'm going to - probably pointlessly - try to re-flash, install the lag fix and do a restore to see if anything different happens.
If anyone else has a suggestion while I wait for my phone to charge enough to do the lag fix .... little tiny voice... <help?>
Well, re-installing oclf 2.1 didnt change the behavior. I've still got a brick after restoring my nandroid backup.
I've gone back to a clean ji6 install and I'm trying a titanium restore. I'll be a week out of date if this works but won't lose anything critical. If this works. I hope, I hope, I hope.
That happen to me too, had to odin back to stock then flash bionix 1.7. lost all my data
How about flashing JI6, applying OCLF, booting into clockwork recovery and selecting Nandroid-> Advanced-> (Your restore file)-> Data-> Yes.
This will reflash all your data on top of the new rom. The reason for reapplying the OCLF is because you backed up BEFORE undoing OCLF, so all your data is still in a .EXT2 file, so we have to have it expecting that before restoring.
Only thing left to do at this point is redo any themes you had installed, and your phone should be back to normal + the update.
I must have backed up after removing OCLF because I ended up flashing stock and restoring just the data. Unfortunately while the data was there, none of my apps were so the fact that the data was there was moot since I couldn't get at a lot of it.
I followed up by flashing just system and now I've got my full functionality back just without ji6.
I'll probably try again after rolling back a few more changes -such as removing the rom manager update.zip - and making another backup or three.
I wonder if the people who've rooted - like me - are having problems because of updated versions of busybox that clockworkmod installs.
Also, the titanium restore worked on stock. I haven't tried it on ji6. yet.
After all the forced learning by doing where flashing roms is concerned I decided to skip the tmo update since they can't be bothered to provide a full list of fixes. I've installed the latest bionix and couldn't be happier.
phillipxenxciel said:
That happen to me too, had to odin back to stock then flash bionix 1.7. lost all my data
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I've found that a Titanium backup is enough to use when flashing a new rom. Do a full backup. Flash the new rom. Restore apps+data. Selectively restore the green system items (so you get all your sms msgs and contacts). Enjoy. Worked for me on Sunday as I flashed various versions of bionix to try.

[Q] 1st day with Vibrant lots of questions need some OCLF ROOT help

Although I only had the phone for a day now, I've been reading the forum for a month trying to get the info I needed so that when it arrived, I'd be able to load up froyo, wifi calling and be done quickly. I set it all up and downloaded ryan's OCLF, ran it, rooted, installed the ext files, then the v2 lag fix it said to. Everything was great.
Later I downloaded a few apps and titanium backup, but didn't back up yet. I ran the battery down low. Went into the clockwork app that I downloaded and did a backup restore.
About an hour later the battery finally died. I read that you should turn it on until it won't anymore before finally plugging in to charge and wiping the battery settings. Problem is it wouldn't boot up again. Hung on the Galaxy S screen with the shining S.
I could still reboot into recovery and into download. Was going to ODIN back, but my PC was giving me trouble. I pulled the micro sim and thre the ASOP 2.2 rom on it from another laptop dragged it to card removed and popped it back in. I tried to reboot to recovery which worked, then reinstall, nothing. Tried to get to the SD card, but it doesn't find it.
Finally gave up and went back into recovery and did a factory data wipe reset or whatever it is called. When the phone rebooted it all booted fine, no problems at all however I lost every setting account etc..
So here's where I'm at now, i mounted it as USB and looked at the phone from the PC, in the clockwork folder is my backup I just can't get it to load.
I went back to the market and redownloaded the ryan OCLF and removed the lag, ext and root and I'm back to stock. Phone will turn off and back on.
What now? Where did I go wrong, it doesn't make any sense, I followed every instruction exactly as it was written.
I'm a little concerned to root again, but I want to backup settings, accounts etc.. in case this happens again.
first...welcome to XDA...the baddest forum on the planet...
second....this is the wrong section for this topic....should be in Q & A section...but a Mod will take care of that....
third....read this.....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849028
the author worked hard on this to become a sticky so noobs will see it first...if u need more info....there is another sticky in the general section...good luck!!
Thanks, I'll read through it now. I thought I had a good idea to drag the new rom to the sd card and fire it up from there, but it failed. Happy I didn't brick the phone. I saw a lot of posts saying ODIN was the only way back, guess I got lucky with the data wipe.
I've had iphones for 2 years and when this happened it would be a conflict with programs, is there a list like that for android like there was for cydia in the iphone info?
I don't know.... but make sure you read carefully before you flash... in a nutshell the steps for ROM flashing is.
1. Root
2. Download and install ROM Manager from market
3. Flask clockwordmod recovery
4. Nandroid (backup)
5. Backup SD card to pc(just in case)
6. Flash your ROM from clockworkmod recovery.
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Here's a question I don't think is answered after reading the post. So rooting via OCLF without installing the lag fix v2 is exactly the same as rooting by dragging and dropping.
Rooting in itself can't cause the phone to not reboot, but if you flash incorrectly or apply lag fix and flash over them you could run into trouble. I just can't seem to figure out where the error was. I didn't delete the update zip after rooting, thats the only error I see.
Other issue I noticed is that on mounting to USB after booted I can see the backups, but I can't locate the ROM zip I put on the SD card or the SD card at all.
So let me get this straight... you rooted via OCLF.. but did not apply the lagfix?
Edit: oh I see... u tried to flash a froyo Rom then go back to stock?...
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No I rooted then applied the lag fix it had available which was version two I believe
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Ok... try ODIN back to stock...make sure you have the correct drivers
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Let me correct what I'm saying, the phone went into the stuck glowing S screen when trying to turn it back on after I ran the battery down to nothing. It wouldn't boot past that point. I tried reinstall, reboot, etc..from the menu in clockwork recov in recov screen as that was all i could get to. When that failed I tried just loading a 2.2 ROM to the sd card direct from my laptop, thought I could just flash from that screen right over everything, didn't work either. Thats when I tried delete all info as a last effort, but then it magically booted back 100% stock, but still rooted. So i reloaded OCLF and unrooted because I don't know what caused the phone to be stuck in the S screen, I didn't flash anything, just did the root and oclf all from ryan's OCLF app
I tried to reroot manual, didn't work, lots of issues, wouldnt root. Went back for OCLF gone. Went for the z4 gone. Found links for both, tried the z4 didnt' work, superuser continiously popping up for permissions, went back removed that and reloaded oclf from web, ran and fixed boot and rerooted, all good. Went back and downloaded and flashed Vibrant AOSP ish JK2 1.1 Official FROYO. Absolutely love it so far. I've been waiting for wifi calling for a long time, it actually works. Problem is I'm not really sure if I rebackup everything now or leave the backups I have from clockwork for stock. I keep reading everything and feel like I'm missing something. I have Vibrant AOSP ish JK2 1.1 Official FROYO saved so I guess if it crashes I just reflash that and don't need a backup, but should titanium backup the whole thing instead now? Sorry if no one replies i get it. Two years of iphone jailbreaking is a waste, nothing like this at all! I will say I never bricked an iphone, feel like i'm gonna brick this thing.
I want to run the OCLF v2, but concerned it's going to cause issues as it's running so smooth right now.
It works fine
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version 2 isn't an option, i'm running lag fix one, seems ok I'm having some other issues, but its running
If your still having problems odin back to stock and start over it always safer and will cause less problems
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All my issues were because busy box was messed up, all good now
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Just to throw it in there... you should always backup your current ROM and all apps using both ROM Manager AND Titanium Backup. It makes it THAT much easier if you do, by chance, have to use ODIN or run a recover, to get your settings, apps, saved data, etc. back without much hassle.
I run a Titanium backup on all of my apps I have loaded (NOT SYSTEM APPS as they are backed up by ROM manager I believe) once a month or so, just to keep fairly recent. It makes it to where, if it does need to be restored, the apps all get re-installed at once including saved data within the app (saved game progress, etc.). This is handy because you don't have to remember what all you had installed and you don't have to go searching through marketplace to get those apps back.
If you are running a custom homescreen (Launcher Pro, etc.), you should also use their backup option to save your homescreen settings.
In short, backup everything you can... it makes 3 hours worth of reloading things condense into a nice little 10-15min "install", "ok" button pressing fiesta!
And, to let you know, I've (as just about 100% of XDA users) flashed, and ODIN'd nearly a thousand times and have yet to brick a phone. These things are crazy indestructible. There's 3 or 4 different ways to get into Download Mode if you get the computer!phone screen... so don't worry about it. The only thing you really lose is time spent getting things back to normal if you screw up. But read up on everything, which it sounds like you already do, before you even attempt anything that could kill the phone. I don't post much on here because just about everything is already answered... you just have to search a little bit.

[Q] I have searched enough: Recovering Backup with CWMOD

OK:
Briefly, Running fine on VEGAn 7 RC 1 with Pershoot's latest. When the Tab was running and booting, I made a full backup in CWMod.
Screwed around with some permissions and once I rebooted, ended up at VEGAn Tab pulsating Boot Screen. It would do its thing for a minute or so, screen would go blank and then return immediately to the same VEGAn Tab screen (i.e., not a full boot).
Not a problem, right? I just booted into CWMod, cleared out everything and restored my earlier backup.
No go. Same loop at the VEGAn screen.
I searched the forums a lot, so either I am not very good at searching or this has not been addressed.
Advice would be appreciated, as this is not the first time I have been here and want to learn if there is a way to repair it (obviously, I can reflash ROM+Kernel) restore via Titanium and only have a little manual recovery left to do.
Thanks!
I had the same thing happen to me while i was changing around roms. I know its not the exact thing but regardless. Anyways, try mounting your tab in cwm as USB and pull your back up off the tabs memory. Go back to cwm and wipe everything, then repartition to advised settings. Remount your tab as usb and put the back up back on your drive and restore again. It may work.
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iamjakecali said:
Not a problem, right? I just booted into CWMod, cleared out everything and restored my earlier backup.
No go. Same loop at the VEGAn screen.
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If its something simple, clearing the Dalvik Cache in CWM might fix it.
I appreciate the ideas. Unfortunately i have tried then all. One of the times this has happened i was messing around with the old two taps xoom. Of i knew anything about the really technical stuff i might speculate something to do with boot loader.
Oh for anyone here who bricks, Don't freak... sometimes i do several times a day and have always come back from it ... mostly using the advice of all the brilliant people here, occassipnaly by messing around with adb, and once i let my monkey push random keys since he had already managed to compose a sonata...

Nandriod problems

Okay I finally got around to putting some new ROMs on my 3D. I tried Supra 2.2 then Olympus Trinity Titan HD then Wtsb 2.0. Well I decided I wanted to go back to supra. Now I did nandroid backups of the system before I did anything, I also did one after trying the supra. Nothing will restore. When I try, a couple lines of green text flash too quickly to read then the screen goes blank and never comes back. I have to pull the battery to reboot. I have tried complete wipe and re-installing supra, but the market keeps FC right away. So i can't even get titanium backup on there.
Please help.
Follow up, I have market running on supra now and will probably stick with it for a while, but I am afraid to do anymore messing around because I don't trust nandriod now.
ParrSt said:
Okay I finally got around to putting some new ROMs on my 3D. I tried Supra 2.2 then Olympus Trinity Titan HD then Wtsb 2.0. Well I decided I wanted to go back to supra. Now I did nandroid backups of the system before I did anything, I also did one after trying the supra. Nothing will restore. When I try, a couple lines of green text flash too quickly to read then the screen goes blank and never comes back. I have to pull the battery to reboot. I have tried complete wipe and re-installing supra, but the market keeps FC right away. So i can't even get titanium backup on there.
Please help.
Follow up, I have market running on supra now and will probably stick with it for a while, but I am afraid to do anymore messing around because I don't trust nandriod now.
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sounds like a bad flash or bad d/l. I would re-d/l the recovery and try one of your previous backups. (ofcourse same recovery as previous) or might not work)
If that doesn't work, since a bad load/flash went through your nan could have been goofed up as well. I would try not really another rom, but make a back up of the one that you have now, then wait about 10 min and do somn diff, then restore the one from 10 min ago... Not sure what else to say unless we knew all..
what hboot, backup, etc... anything else that can help...
Just to clarify, nandriod does not copy the kernal. So if you restore an older backup after loading a rom with a different kernel, you might have to re-install the old kernal too. right?
By default I am pretty sure it backs up the boot partition which has the kernel in it
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By default I am pretty sure it backs up the boot partition which has the kernel in it
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even with hboot 1.5?
Maybe that is why my restores kept crashing... I was using recovery, but had not launched recovery from fastboot, whish as I understand is how you flash kernels if you are not using flash image.

Backup & Restore

I've flashed my phone a few times before, but the last time I've done so, Titanium Backup decided not to work, so I had a newly flashed ROM but no data to go with it. I backed up everything on my phone once (by means of copying&pasting all of the folders) on my computer, but putting them back on my phone didn't do anything.
Now I want to flash again, but I'm clueless as to what app I should be using to back up my phone, and which app would make it possible for me to have my data backed up. I know it sounds a bit vague, but basically, I'm looking to back up my phone so that when I clear everything and flash it, I'd like to restore my apps as well as the data along with it (like high scores in games). Does anyone have any idea what I should do? I currently backed up my current ROM (Android 4.3 and HTC Sense 5.0) with ROM Manager (v5.5.3.7), but I don't know if I can use that back up since I'm looking to flash Android 4.4.2 onto it.
Any and all help is appreciated. Thanks in advance!
EDIT: And I have one off-topic question... Should I flash gapps before or after flashing the ROM? I flashed gapps before and after last time and it worked fine, but I'm curious to know what the correct order is.

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