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Though I am looking forward as much as anyone else here to eventually getting my own Asus TP, I am curious about how easy/expensive it will ultimately be to replace the internal battery i.e. when the initial one wears out from continual drains and re-charges (as a follow-on to this, I am curious what treatment needs to be given to the TP battery to maximize its life span)?
One of the many selling points of the Toshiba Thrive was the user-replaceable battery (and easily-removable back panel). From what I understand, that was the *only* tablet with that feature.
darethehair said:
[1st post] Apologies if this has already been discussed in a thread -- if so, just shut this one down...
Though I am looking forward as much as anyone else here to eventually getting my own Asus TP, I am curious about how easy/expensive it will ultimately be to replace the internal battery i.e. when the initial one wears out from continual drains and re-charges (as a follow-on to this, I am curious what treatment needs to be given to the TP battery to maximize its life span)?
One of the many selling points of the Toshiba Thrive was the user-replaceable battery (and easily-removable back panel). From what I understand, that was the *only* tablet with that feature.
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You won't be able to change the battery easily. From what i looks like I guess the back is somehow glued to the screen, so I don't think removal will be a good idea
Modern batteries should not need replacement before the average user buys a new tablet, so i wouldn't worry about it.
adiliyo said:
Modern batteries should not need replacement before the average user buys a new tablet, so i wouldn't worry about it.
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But I do wish to worry about it.
Perhaps I plan to make this a permanent resident of my desktop or car?
Perhaps I use items far beyond the length of the average user.
OP, most of the time in cases like this there is a in-warranty replacement plan available.
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You won't be able to change the battery easily. From what i looks like I guess the back is somehow glued to the screen, so I don't think removal will be a good idea
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Hmmm...it disturbs me to think that it might not be easy (or, worse yet, possible) to replace the battery in *any* device that I might own. Even if I myself cannot do the 'replacement', I would hope that some service center could (?). If not, I think it is crazy to 'throw away' a perfectly good device just because of the battery. I suppose one could just leave the device plugged in, but on a tablet that is very constraining
Any estimates for how long it might take to get to the 'point of frustration'? Say, heavy use for a year? 2 years? Hmmm...
Nothing is impossible, it will just need to be disassembled similar to the way the ipads are imo, modern lithium batteries should be able to easily go 2 years of heavy use with no issue.
Apple doesn't allow users to replace batteries. You must send iDevices back to the all mighty to have batteries replaced. Im sure Asus offers the same thing.
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But I do wish to worry about it.
Perhaps I plan to make this a permanent resident of my desktop or car?
Perhaps I use items far beyond the length of the average user.
OP, most of the time in cases like this there is a in-warranty replacement plan available.
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If it is a permanent location, then it should have a permanent power source, which means you wouldn't need to run off the battery while using it.
I realize that this an old thread, but I found it while googling and I just want to post a reply in case anyone else comes along.
Tech republic posted a video:
techrepublic.com/videos/cracking-open/cracking-open-asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime/6343514
In it, you can clearly see that the Asus Transformer Prime is very parts replacement friendly. You can replace just about any of the internal pieces, as long as you can figure out how to open the case without damaging it.
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Tech republic posted a video:
techrepublic.com/videos/cracking-open/cracking-open-asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime/6343514
In it, you can clearly see that the Asus Transformer Prime is very parts replacement friendly. You can replace just about any of the internal pieces, as long as you can figure out how to open the case without damaging it.
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Thanks for the video link! Now, I hope things are just as good -- if not better -- with the pending 'Infinity' model
honestly because the battery can last for days without a charge, it cycles much less than say a cell phone. I charge my tab about 1/4 as much as my cell phone with an extended life battery. (Granted overall the phone gets more use) but still I think you can expect at least a good 3-4 years of moderate use before even THINKING about a battery change. For someone like me who uses my tab in spurts depending on the situation I wouldn't be surprised if I have only had about 100 cycles on the battery so far and I've had it 6 months so far.
How did you glue the battery? I used double sided tape but didn't immobilize the battery. Did you use a specific type of glue?
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Modern batteries should not need replacement before the average user buys a new tablet, so i wouldn't worry about it.
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How's your battery doing these days?
Lol, I know it's 2019, but I still have my Prime.
I am also looking for a battery replacement. I mean it is pretty much the only reason making it "old", otherwise it is still very usefull and can always be used as a photoframe if needed
Anyone have any knowledge where a replacement can be found?
I'll take the glue off and reseal it if needed.
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Hey!
I know that it's never a good idea to leave full or empty batteries just stay without use for too long. I don't use TF201 every day and I have it shut down when I don't use it, I am wondering how the battery should be managed and if any of you have any experiences with maintaining your previous devices, like TF101 or others, in similar conditions.
I charge the device after use and then it stays that way a day or two without use due to me not having lectures or enough time off work to play with it. When I do play with it, I don't use more than 20% of battery life and then I dock it with keyboard again (which charges it again even if it is turned off, which is really nice).
Are there any bad side effects of having the device powered off and not used for a day or two? Or letting the keyboard charge the device while it is powered off? Or leaving it in charged state for a few days?
Since I cannot change the battery on TF201, I am super OCD about the battery situation to make sure it works properly throughout the ~2 years I'll be using it.
Thanks!
I let it drain completely then recharge it. I don't power it off, just let 'er sleep in between work, driving, eating, etc.
Moderate usage will give me a couple days worth out of it. Charge during sleepy time, wake up, disconnect, repeat.
I found this article very interesting on batteries. Debunked alot of myths surrounding the type of battery we have.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1168036
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I found this article very interesting on batteries. Debunked alot of myths surrounding the type of battery we have.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1168036
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Really good article, thanks!
Problem is that TF201 is a special puppy, since its dock recharges the tablet even when tablet is shut off. It's not recomended to keep the battery 'full' nor 'empty' and problem with TF201 is that it keeps tablet full or drains the dock while keeping tablet full, even if tablet is shut down.
I am just wondering if this behavior is bad for battery life in the long run if I don't use it for a few days (I certainly won't keep it 'on' for days and not use it, this will certainly make it go through more recharge cycles in the long run).
That article is good for managing a single-battery device, but since tablet with dock takes over a lot of charge-or-not decisions, it's a little different.
It's basically question about which is worse, going through definite amount of recharge cycles quicker because it is on and needs to be charged every now and then or letting it shut down and used when needed like a laptop.
Maybe I'm thinking too much and it doesn't really matter, but it just made me curious since I never had TF101, so I can't really rely on that experience.
We can buy the TF201 battery, can't we?
If yes, I don't think you should worry much.
Within a year or two, the battery should be still in perfect or near perfect condition.
If not, then buy a new battery.
By that time frame, most of us would have been buy a new tablet anyway
Make sense? no?
gogol said:
We can buy the TF201 battery, can't we?
If yes, I don't think you should worry much.
Within a year or two, the battery should be still in perfect or near perfect condition.
If not, then buy a new battery.
By that time frame, most of us would have been buy a new tablet anyway
Make sense? no?
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TF201 battery is not user-replaceable. It needs to be done by ASUS or you're breaking warranty. I don't even think ASUS will sell these batteries.
kristovaher said:
TF201 battery is not user-replaceable. It needs to be done by ASUS or you're breaking warranty. I don't even think ASUS will sell these batteries.
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Ok, thanks for the info, I did not know that.
But still, if I have a tablet, I won't keep it for more than 2 years most probably
And on my experience, for two years, battery will still be good.
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Ok, thanks for the info, I did not know that.
But still, if I have a tablet, I won't keep it for more than 2 years most probably
And on my experience, for two years, battery will still be good.
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Yeah, possible. I'll shake that OCD'ness off me then I suppose. I've just always had user-replaceable battery Android devices simply because I don't pay attention to how badly I mistreat the battery, I can always replace it. But with TF201 I have to pay some attention
Is there a way to signal the keyboard dock to start charging only when the tablet has 20% charge left?
I leave the dock connected all the time and the tablet is constantly being charged by the dock.
the lithium ion battery is fine you can let it sit for months and months, you can charge it every 5 minutes, you dont have to let it drain out or manage it just let it do its thing!
I feel pretty bad since Ive been bouncing around this forum asking questions about the root process for my friends Nook Tablet like there's no tomorrow. But Unfortunately I have yet another question about the Nook Tablet. I've done the Rooting process thanks in large, if not completely, to digixmax. But one thing Ive noticed is that the battery seems to die pretty quickly. Unfortunately I didnt take a moment to play with it before rooting, so I don't know if the battery was just getting old, or if it's because how much the CM11 Kitkat Rom is taxing the Nook Tablet. Either way, I explained to my friend that the battery may not last as long because the Nook Tablet probably wasn't exactly design to have all the features/functions of KitKit. She looked into battery option yesterday and cam back with this:
http://www.newpower99.com/Barnes_No...cement_Kit_p/barnes and noble nook tablet.htm
Does anyone know if the NewPower99 batteries are any good? And would it power the Tablet longer than the current factory battery?
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I feel pretty bad since Ive been bouncing around this forum asking questions about the root process for my friends Nook Tablet like there's no tomorrow. But Unfortunately I have yet another question about the Nook Tablet. I've done the Rooting process thanks in large, if not completely, to digixmax. But one thing Ive noticed is that the battery seems to die pretty quickly. Unfortunately I didnt take a moment to play with it before rooting, so I don't know if the battery was just getting old, or if it's because how much the CM11 Kitkat Rom is taxing the Nook Tablet. Either way, I explained to my friend that the battery may not last as long because the Nook Tablet probably wasn't exactly design to have all the features/functions of KitKit. She looked into battery option yesterday and cam back with this:
http://www.newpower99.com/Barnes_No...cement_Kit_p/barnes and noble nook tablet.htm
Does anyone know if the NewPower99 batteries are any good? And would it power the Tablet longer than the current factory battery?
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I realize this is a old post but I thought I would chime in on it. I have done a lot of research lately as I have a battery issue. Well it is a problem with phantom touches when the battery gets to 23% or so. From all I have read this is a battery issue. At first I was thinking it needed to be calibrated. However after digging though all the information, most battery calibration methods just delete the battery stats. This apparently is only data since the last time the device was charged, and not long term information that affects calibration (confirmed by a Google engineer). I did read about one other file to delete in \rom max#### if I remember correctly, and that might do it. I may try that soon.
The only other method I saw was to charge it full, run it down till it shuts down, charge it till full, turn it on and let it sit ON for 30 minutes (set screen shut down to 30 minutes), then plug it in to charge full. With some Android devices this can recalibrate the battery (which makes sense), but not sure if it will work on a NT or not. I am going to try it though.
But back to the battery, I did like the look of it and the video they did. I may purchase one from them if all of the above methods don't work. Someone else got a 3rd party battery from another company and said it worked well http://forum.xda-developers.com/nook-tablet/general/changed-battery-nook-tablet-t2829771 it is the same capacity which IS less than a original NT battery (3200 vs original NT at 4000) so you won't get the same runtime that you would with a brand new NT. That said all LI-ion batteries degrade with age, so even if you happened to find a new unopened device, the battery would not quite be the same as when it was released. Also while you can get batteries from say Ebay, you do not know how many cycles or life is left in them. Could be a few days, a few months or years. Even if they say 80% of the capacity is left in them, that is approximately what you will get with one of the new batteries anyway.
The one company is cheaper than the other (20 from batteryship.com vs $40 from newPower99) and they are the same capacity so I am not sure which one you would want to go with. As far as presentation goes, Power99 wins with their nice video on you tube and the look of the battery itself. Both seem to include the two tools necessary to do the battery replacement. So again up to you which way you want to go. Both have 1 year warranty. One thing about newpower99 they will install it for you for $60 http://www.newpower99.com/Battery_Replacement_Service_for_Nook_Tablet_p/nook-tablet-pbr.htm I can't vouch how well they do but if someone is really worried about doing it, then I would say let them do it instead.
Personally though I would just do it myself. But I did just find this on the newpower site "•Opening an electronic device and replacing the battery does entail risks to the functionality of the unit. NewPower99.com does not guarantee the overall functionality of your unit after battery replacement service. You acknowledge these risks and understand that NewPower99.com's maximum liability is limited to the cost of the battery replacement service." Which doesn't instill confidence in sending it to them lol.
Do battery cases exist in the nexus 6 world?
I've searched a lot and couldn't find any.
I've really had it with the battery life of this phone, a battery case would save me from going back a 6 plus.
Tons of way to optimize battery, most people get a couple days worth and you probably could too with a simple Google search. There's no battery cases for this phone, it's too big and too niche.
Oh, and going back to a 6 plus? Lmao that's like saying "there's something wrong with my Ferrari, if I can't fix it I'm getting a Hyundai"
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Tons of way to optimize battery, most people get a couple days worth and you probably could too with a simple Google search. There's no battery cases for this phone, it's too big and too niche.
Oh, and going back to a 6 plus? Lmao that's like saying "there's something wrong with my Ferrari, if I can't fix it I'm getting a Hyundai"
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Thats in the eye of the beholder
Battery life when you use the phone is pretty bad IMO. It drops pretty fast once it gets below 50%. I highly doubt mods and tweeks will get you the battery life of the 6+, maybe closer to the note 4
joshm.1219 said:
Tons of way to optimize battery, most people get a couple days worth and you probably could too with a simple Google search. There's no battery cases for this phone, it's too big and too niche.
Oh, and going back to a 6 plus? Lmao that's like saying "there's something wrong with my Ferrari, if I can't fix it I'm getting a Hyundai"
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LOL @ nexus 6 as a Ferrari and the 6+ Hyundai. Get off your high horse sir.
I've been to the battery life thread in general. You're talking like there's some magic fix to make this phone match the 6+'s battery life, there isn't. I'm a very heavy user and I accept this phone's battery is average at best, that's why I was looking for a battery case.
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LOL @ nexus 6 as a Ferrari and the 6+ Hyundai. Get off your high horse sir.
I've been to the battery life thread in general. You're talking like there's some magic fix to make this phone match the 6+'s battery life, there isn't. I'm a very heavy user and I accept this phone's battery is average at best, that's why I was looking for a battery case.
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Lol stfu with the high horse stuff, you know you're trolling hard when you bring up an iPhone as your only other option on an Android development forum. As for the battery life, do a little research and educate yourself on how to manage efficiency, you can easily get more battery life than the typical 6+
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Lol stfu with the high horse stuff, you know you're trolling hard when you bring up an iPhone as your only other option on an Android development forum. As for the battery life, do a little research and educate yourself on how to manage efficiency, you can easily get more battery life than the typical 6+
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So let me get this, someone references the 6+, and yur reaction is getting your panties all bunched up haha. My apologies, didn't mean to hurt your feelings there
The nexus 6 has obvious battery shortcomings that are well documented in the general section, one thread has over 200 pages of complaints. If you're such a guru why don't you go there and share your 'optimizations' so we all can benefit from it? Do they include turning off the phone? Lol
Anyways I got what I needed from this thread, no battery cases available. Thanks everyone.
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So let me get this, someone references the 6+, and yur reaction is getting your panties all bunched up haha. My apologies, didn't mean to hurt your feelings there
The nexus 6 has obvious battery shortcomings that are well documented in the general section, one thread has over 200 pages of complaints. If you're such a guru why don't you go there and share your 'optimizations' so we all can benefit from it? Do they include turning off the phone? Lol
Anyways I got what I needed from this thread, no battery cases available. Thanks everyone.
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Nah I'm still calm but I guess it is on me for feeding you trolls. That thread has a bunch of people with great battery life as well because they know how google works. As I said, you should try reading it.
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Or the beer holder...
LordGrahf said:
So let me get this, someone references the 6+, and yur reaction is getting your panties all bunched up haha. My apologies, didn't mean to hurt your feelings there
The nexus 6 has obvious battery shortcomings that are well documented in the general section, one thread has over 200 pages of complaints. If you're such a guru why don't you go there and share your 'optimizations' so we all can benefit from it? Do they include turning off the phone? Lol
Anyways I got what I needed from this thread, no battery cases available. Thanks everyone.
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if you think battery life is bad with this device, then i dont recommend trying a LG G3 or LG G Flex 2, they have horrible battery life, like maybe 2 hours screen on time if your lucky. the G2 had the best IMO. so coming to the Nexus 6 was a pleasant surprise when i get around 4-5 hours of SOT
I'm pretty content with that battery life. Google made changes in 5.1 kernel to improve it some more by turning off a Qualcomm "feature" and just having the 4 cores on all the time. My wife has the 6+ with a mophie case. I personally don't see much difference in battery life between the 2 phones. We both come home from work with about the same amount of battery left. Mine is a little less when I have yo go to a part of the hospital that gets poor reception. I've never thought to myself. OMG I need to bring my cable to work. Just the other day I forgot to charge my phone over night and had 43% left. Plugged it into a 2.1 amp charger while I got ready for work. Hooked it up to my turbo charger in the car and voila. 90% by the time I made it to work 30 minutes later.
I get that the battery life can be piss poor. I haven't done any "optimizations". You can try rooting and installing Franco kernel or some other kernel if you want to give it a shot though. I feel like battery cases are for those worried about battery life while going camping or something. I would just turn on power save mode at that point.
Uhhh really want a battery case, and please don't tell me I don't need it, its my personal opinion.
Same here. I need a battery case, badly. Will get tomorrow a Nexus 6, atm using Note 3 with Zerolemon 10,000mAh battery. I guess I have to build my own, where are those 3D printers...
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Agreed. It's so frustrating to be told that optimization can solve the problem from someone who probably lives under a cell tower and has never needed a 10,000mAh battery. Out here on the fringe, bouncing in and out of service on the farm, my 9,000 mAh on my G3 barely got me through the day. I don't want to have to find a charger at noon or 8 pm, I want a phone that works from 6 am until 10 pm when I get home. I've made huge improvements with optimization, but no tweaking is going to get my N6 past noon on the farm, so don't say that we're silly or unreasonable when we want to duct tape a car battery to our phones to get through the day.
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Agreed. It's so frustrating to be told that optimization can solve the problem from someone who probably lives under a cell tower and has never needed a 10,000mAh battery. Out here on the fringe, bouncing in and out of service on the farm, my 9,000 mAh on my G3 barely got me through the day. I don't want to have to find a charger at noon or 8 pm, I want a phone that works from 6 am until 10 pm when I get home. I've made huge improvements with optimization, but no tweaking is going to get my N6 past noon on the farm, so don't say that we're silly or unreasonable when we want to duct tape a car battery to our phones to get through the day.
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I just ordered a Anker 10,000mAh external battery and I will glue it to the phone protective cover. Let's see how it will work, the battery is smaller than the phone so it will only add some thickness and of course, weight.
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Agreed. It's so frustrating to be told that optimization can solve the problem from someone who probably lives under a cell tower and has never needed a 10,000mAh battery. Out here on the fringe, bouncing in and out of service on the farm, my 9,000 mAh on my G3 barely got me through the day. I don't want to have to find a charger at noon or 8 pm, I want a phone that works from 6 am until 10 pm when I get home. I've made huge improvements with optimization, but no tweaking is going to get my N6 past noon on the farm, so don't say that we're silly or unreasonable when we want to duct tape a car battery to our phones to get through the day.
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Sounds like you should stick to phones with a removable battery. Why would you get a phone with a 3220mah embedded battery when the ZL on your G3 wasn't enough? Even if a company did come out with a battery case, which isn't happening, it would never be anywhere near as big as that.
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Sounds like you should stick to phones with a removable battery. Why would you get a phone with a 3220mah embedded battery when the ZL on your G3 wasn't enough? Even if a company did come out with a battery case, which isn't happening, it would never be anywhere near as big as that.
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As someone who is eagerly waiting battery case I agree, if a G3 battery with ZL extended case is not sufficient neither will a battery case. Battery cases charge significantly slower than charging them through the wall. I had one for my m8 and Nexus 5.
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As someone who is eagerly waiting battery case I agree, if a G3 battery with ZL extended case is not sufficient neither will a battery case. Battery cases charge significantly slower than charging them through the wall. I had one for my m8 and Nexus 5.
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Not to mention you lose 30% of the capacity of the case just through the inefficiencies of USB charging. So he would need a ~7500mah battery case to really have a comparable capacity overall. Which has never been made before for any phone with an embedded battery AFAIK.
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Not to mention you lose 30% of the capacity of the case just through the inefficiencies of USB charging. So he would need a ~7500mah battery case to really have a comparable capacity overall. Which has never been made before for any phone with an embedded battery AFAIK.
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He said that he gets crap service, which does impact battery life. Perhaps looking into another carrier. Verizon and At&t tend to have better coverage. If the price is a deterrent then he should look into an MNVO and probably stick with the g3
I don't understand how people aren't able to get through a day on a single charge (unplugging around 8am) when I'm able to do it with ease working 8-10hrs while my phone is constantly searching and jumping between no signal and poor 3g/LTE. Having Wi-Fi helps but I'm able to get through the day without it while at work. It was no different with the Note 2, original Moto X, and G3 over the past 2 years.
If you're on the fringe of service areas, perhaps consider a range extender? If you get poor reception where you spend most of your time on a daily basis, perhaps consider a different carrier? It's unfair to complain about battery life because all phones will suffer if you're usually in areas where your carrier doesn't provide good coverage. Other than that, consider a different phone that better suits your needs (i.e. removable batteries) as suggested above or invest in a portable charger. I rarely ever need to use my portable charger but I always have it with me. With larger capacities in slimmer form factors at lower prices, there really is no excuse for a power user to not have one.
Hi all,
I've been using my site to push partners and suppliers on this and nobody is planning on producing one which I find completely crazy.
It seems that the only phones that get battery cases are Samsung devices and Apple devices, but I would buy the sh!t out of a case I could clip over my phone and extend the battery by a few 1000 mAhs. Battery life really matters to me and I would sacrifice svelte-like aesthetics for it.
Anyone else looking for one too? (I've even used my PR contacts at Oneplus...they haven't even responded )
To those who say "use an external battery pack" I say, "I do", but I'd rather not carry two items especially when I'm at events like IFA recently.
What's the point when the charging is so quick? You're normally gonna be near a car or power point.
Why would you need the more mah? Can't you get trough a full day with the op5???
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What's the point when the charging is so quick? You're normally gonna be near a car or power point.
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As I said, not when I'm at events and the like. I travel a lot for work also so yes I can charge when I get to hotels but it's VERY handy to trigger a switch and feed from battery case.
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Why would you need the more mah? Can't you get trough a full day with the op5???
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Under normal circumstances yes, however at events where there are lots of videos and pictures being taken as well as social media and more, then no. I can get through a day with about 4 hours SoT (12-14 hour day) and that's with about 10% left in normal use (best case scenario)
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As I said, not when I'm at events and the like. I travel a lot for work also so yes I can charge when I get to hotels but it's VERY handy to trigger a switch and feed from battery case.
Under normal circumstances yes, however at events where there are lots of videos and pictures being taken as well as social media and more, then no. I can get through a day with about 4 hours SoT (12-14 hour day) and that's with about 10% left in normal use (best case scenario)
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4h sot? U or your phone does something wrong. Those hours i get around 50/60%.
Thanks for your response but no, I don't do anything "wrong". I have the same use cases on many Android devices (WiFi, VT constantly on, GPS off, etc) and they are all similar to what others get. Perhaps you are just lucky.
Plus I must add that simply telling me I or my device is "wrong" is everything that is 'wrong' with Forums nowadays
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Unfortunately the demand just isn't there for it to be worthwhile for manufacturers like Mophie to do a custom one.
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Thanks for your response but no, I don't do anything "wrong". I have the same use cases on many Android devices (WiFi, VT constantly on, GPS off, etc) and they are all similar to what others get. Perhaps you are just lucky.
Plus I must add that simply telling me I or my device is "wrong" is everything that is 'wrong' with Forums nowadays
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Jeez, some of the comments here are extremely assumption heavy. It's like they aren't even considering your point, or situations that would make you want a battery case.
I personally don't want a battery case, but it's trivial to imagine a scenario where it could be helpful. Zerolemon made one for the oneplus 3 I believe, I imagine they'll make one for the oneplus 5 as well.
I would be interested in a battery case for those rare circumstances. However, i don't want a poorly made one. I'm not sure how zero lemons have been lately, but the ones for nexus 5 and 6p i hated.
I orefer the thin build of the phone. I work with Linux a lot so i just apply Franco Kernel and my own custom settings in his app and terminal emulator. Usually nets me about 2 days of usage and around 10-11 hrs sot. If im not asleep by then at my home near my charger im probably MIA. I prefer to carry my external power in my backpack. I used an insanely huge battery for my S5 years ago and got sick of the 3 inch thick phone scheme
I wouldn't need a battery case. I find it hard people would really need it as I get 9-11 hours of screen on time (with fairly heavy usage). With Dash Charge, you can top off in just an hour and 20 min and a days worth of power in just 30-45 min. I doubt with a phone with insane battery life and teh fastest charging of any phone that there would be much call for a battery case.
Battery cases aren't really made to on all the time. Its just not feasible with how big and heavy the phone gets with them.
I would only use it when traveling. Get to the airport take my slim case off and throw on the battery case. That way I don't have to be like everyone else and look for a plug. Also external battery packs are much more inconvenient because you have to deal with an a cord. Easier to have something strapped onto the phone. On the plane I watch movies stored on my phone or listen to music while I sleep. Id leave the battery case on till i am about to land at my destination then just slip my slim case on and go about my day.
What about carrying a small power bank? You can get 1000mAh banks that aren't much bigger than a credit card and about 1/2" deep, then grab a 3" USB-C cable and toss them in your bag/pocket and off you go!
YES please! They are so handy for traveling... Once you had one you never want to go out without it anymore ?
What's the point of carrying a battery around all the time?
A battery pack (the bigger the better) with Dash Charging would be more way more useful!
So my Moto Z 2016 fell into the Android 8.0 Oreo upgrade cluster**** and became a victim of the famous massive battery drainage, to the point it became impossible to use without keeping it plugged to a charger. Thing is one would logically assume this is a software issue, and therefore a rollback/downgrade would be enough to solve this problem. However, after dealing with multiple software upgrades and downgrades for 2-3 days straight with and without RSDLite in every imaginable way possible, I managed to install Android 6.0 Lollipop on the phone and everything works excellently, but the battery keeps having the same issues it had the second that phone got the lovely 8.0 update.
So my questions are: is it even remotely correct to assume the update caused physical damage to the battery? Or -even if I completely reinstalled a totally different Android version- there is still some part of the phone that contains an unmodifiable chunk of software that is corruptedly managing the battery information, therefore making buying a new battery irrelevant?
I'm asking this because I decided to believe in the first question as a yes and was about to proceed to buy a new battery AND a new glue to place the screen again back to where it is, but decided to make this thread to maybe avoid buying things that could've been unnecesary. Thanks in advance.
It's time to get a new battery.
Mine is pretty much okay with Oreo update back then. But after just 1++ year usage (bought it in Sept 2017), the battery life just dropped significantly.
Replaced it, and now it working fine. Even the repair center didn't factory reset my device (I'm on Omni ROM), so it couldn't be a software issue.
I can confirm new battery will solve the problem. I had tried everything before I ordered an original battery pack (made by Lg and my phone has juice for more than a day now. (a half before)
I think fast/turbo charging also kill the battery, so now I use a 1,5/2A charger
Ratawar said:
So my Moto Z 2016 fell into the Android 8.0 Oreo upgrade cluster**** and became a victim of the famous massive battery drainage, to the point it became impossible to use without keeping it plugged to a charger. Thing is one would logically assume this is a software issue, and therefore a rollback/downgrade would be enough to solve this problem. However, after dealing with multiple software upgrades and downgrades for 2-3 days straight with and without RSDLite in every imaginable way possible, I managed to install Android 6.0 Lollipop on the phone and everything works excellently, but the battery keeps having the same issues it had the second that phone got the lovely 8.0 update.
So my questions are: is it even remotely correct to assume the update caused physical damage to the battery? Or -even if I completely reinstalled a totally different Android version- there is still some part of the phone that contains an unmodifiable chunk of software that is corruptedly managing the battery information, therefore making buying a new battery irrelevant?
I'm asking this because I decided to believe in the first question as a yes and was about to proceed to buy a new battery AND a new glue to place the screen again back to where it is, but decided to make this thread to maybe avoid buying things that could've been unnecesary. Thanks in advance.
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I can confirm new battery will solve the problem. I had tried everything before I ordered an original battery pack (made by Lg and my phone has juice for more than a day now. (a half before)
I think fast/turbo charging also kill the battery, so now I use a 1,5/2A charger
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Could you please post a link about the battery pack kit that you said? Is there any different to a Motorola's one (capacity, dimensions etc) ? Thank you.
To our dear friend, I suggest you replace the battery. You are not alone to that issue. It's worth buying new battery. Check this thread : https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/how-to/defective-battery-lots-moto-zhigh-t3781335
this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-M...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
the same GV30 was in the device (2680maH). There are a lot of non oem batteries btw
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Could you please post a link about the battery pack kit that you said? Is there any different to a Motorola's one (capacity, dimensions etc) ? Thank you.
To our dear friend, I suggest you replace the battery. You are not alone to that issue. It's worth buying new battery. Check this thread : https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/how-to/defective-battery-lots-moto-zhigh-t3781335
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this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-M...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
the same GV30 was in the device (2680maH). There are a lot of non oem batteries btw
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Thank you for the quick response. I've noticed that there are many after-market batteries which have larger dimensions than the original. Do you think by just changing the battery to a new one, will solve the problem? I mean it was just effective batteries?
I think the best to replace to the original GV30. It solved the battery problem of my phone right after changing it and I'm not alone with it I guess. I had tried everything before (calibration, doze apps, etc). Nothing works if the cells of the battery are dead. It's a hardware issue
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Thank you for the quick response. I've noticed that there are many after-market batteries which have larger dimensions than the original. Do you think by just changing the battery to a new one, will solve the problem? I mean it was just effective batteries?
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I think the best to replace to the original GV30. It solved the battery problem of my phone right after changing it and I'm not alone with it I guess. I had tried everything before (calibration, doze apps, etc). Nothing works if the cells of the battery are dead. It's a hardware issue
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Yeap! This is the conclusion, bad cells in the battery. I also believe the problem enhanced by the turbo charger, as you said... :/ But, how to prove it... (?)
Prove? I can prove in a year
Just think about it. It's simple physics, faster thermal expansion kills cells. That's why they're said not to let discharged fully. Or whatever
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Yeap! This is the conclusion, bad cells in the battery. I also believe the problem enhanced by the turbo charger, as you said... :/ But, how to prove it... (?)
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Hi there,
did anyone tried https://www.aliexpress.com/item/LOS...-01-XT1650-03-XT1650-05-GV40/32842305696.html battery?
Thanks!
moemos said:
Hi there,
did anyone tried https://www.aliexpress.com/item/LOS...-01-XT1650-03-XT1650-05-GV40/32842305696.html battery?
Thanks!
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Look, many customers have tried these extended batteries but noone can prove that this myth works! On the other hand, many videos and comments have uploaded on the internet and people have shared their experience: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hRdg75PAMw
I believe that it's impossible to extend a battery capacity while the space inside the phone is very specific.
A project, though, is in progress by a member of XDA who is trying to replace GV30 to GV40 battery: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/help/replace-gv30-gv40-t3896369
You'll want a battery that's SMALLER capacity than the oem. The issue is that lithium ion batteries hate being thinned out so trying to put the 2600maH OEM battery inside this chassis is a recipe for disaster. I believe the iFixit battery is around 2400maH.
I think we'd be fine with shorter life than stock. What many are missing is consistent battery life. It's one thing to get 2hours SOT, it's another to be at 80% and have it shutdown.
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You'll want a battery that's SMALLER capacity than the oem. The issue is that lithium ion batteries hate being thinned out so trying to put the 2600maH OEM battery inside this chassis is a recipe for disaster. I believe the iFixit battery is around 2400maH.
I think we'd be fine with shorter life than stock. What many are missing is consistent battery life. It's one thing to get 2hours SOT, it's another to be at 80% and have it shutdown.
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It's appropriate to give us a link about these batteries.
I did change the motherboard and the battery to a new one gv30 and I get 3-4 SOT. What's your opinion about gv40 inside moto z?
tsoump said:
It's appropriate to give us a link about these batteries.
I did change the motherboard and the battery to a new one gv30 and I get 3-4 SOT. What's your opinion about gv40 inside moto z?
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Don't do it. The screen will bulge out. There is essentially 0 give inside the Moto Z chassis. If you're fine seeing into the phone, then it'll work for you. However, I'd probably opt for the iFixit kit. It's an official Moto solution, and while it might have the same problem it won't introduce a worse problem.
May batteries you find online will say "OEM" but they are often rebrands. And even if they're just 0.1mm thicker, the screen won't adhere. A proper phone replace shop ordered me a replacement battery and it was too thick. This was a year ago, and I eventually just replaced it with a $300 new Moto Z from Amazon (I had broken my screen replacing the battery myself).
I don't know the links persay, but I see there's this one from SWARK https://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Compatible-XT1650-03-XT1650-05-XT1650-01/dp/B07GQWHLH1
I haven't tried that one myself, but I'd be curious to see the thickness.
Just replacing my moto z battery with cheap (fake?) gv30 that i buy for only around $7 in my local (Indonesia) marketplace
Please look the attached picture for its (peak) performance, and this how i got those number:
- charge to 91% with 5v/1.2A charger (ASUS charger)
- watching movie for 3 hours with airplane mode and bluetooth earphone on
- sleeping with airplane mode on
- using my phone normally with wifi on and data off until the battery reach 3%
Thank you all for your answers and sharing your experiences.
Unfortunately, after buying all I needed from the USA (battery pack and 2 B7000 glue blisters shipped to Argentina) I proceeded to attempt to fix the phone. While heating up the screen to remove it, I burned all of the LCD corners and completely ruined the screen. I don't know what did I do so differently from all of the technicians in videotutorials where thay apply the exact same or even more heat on the screen and still left it intact, but there's nothing that can be done about it except buying a new screen replacement, but since we didn't want to spend much money on this phone, we just discarded it. Such a shame and disgraceful event, it still bugs me out.