In terms of capacity and type? Is it the same as in iPad 2 (Lithium-ion polymer)? And is there information about how many charge-discharge cycles it can survive?
I am wondering since it does not have a user-replaceable battery and considering that I will be using it daily (like I do with my phone that does have user-replaceable battery) I am wondering about how long until I have to either get a new tablet or send it for replacement battery.
(I could not find the type and capacity from Wiki or from reviews I looked through, so apologies if this is already known)
25Wh Li-polymer battery in the tablet, 22Wh Li-pol in the dock. Asus says 12 hours for the tablet and 18 hours for tablet + dock playing 720p video in power saving mode.
I would imagine the charge lifespan is similar to other Li-pol batteries.
http://eee.asus.com/eeepad/transformer-prime/specification/
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25Wh Li-polymer battery in the tablet, 22Wh Li-pol in the dock. Asus says 12 hours for the tablet and 16 hours for tablet + dock playing 720p video in power saving mode.
I would imagine the charge lifespan is similar to other Li-pol batteries.
http://eee.asus.com/eeepad/transformer-prime/specification/
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Li-pol batteries should last around 500 charges before dropping down 80% in capacity according to Wiki. Not too bad, but still under two years when charging every day.
I totally wish that Prime had a user-replacable battery (at least the tablet, replacing the dock does not cost too much later on), but I guess that in two years time I'll be upgrading to something else anyway.
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Li-pol batteries should last around 500 charges before dropping down 80% in capacity according to Wiki. Not too bad, but still under two years when charging every day.
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That would only be if you fully discharged and recharged the whole thing every day. If you only use 50% of the battery, that's only half a cycle. And even so.... 80% of 12 or 16 hours is still pretty respectable.
estimated life expectancy?
so, based on the above average of expected battery life, (assuming just the tablet) can we assume under normal circumstances and usage patterns, that the transformer prime battery can be expected to last about maybe 3 or 4 years? - assuming that by this point, the battery will be well under half life. Has anyone ever had to replace a battery on an Ipad (1st gen yet?) or the original transformer?
If anyone has sent their transformers back to Asus to have the battery replaced, I would love to hear their experiences. Is this something that we should be concerned about if we want to get a good 5 years usage out of this tablet? (since battery cannot be replaced)
Another thought, ... would it be better to leave the tablet plugged in if I am near a power source to avoid using the battery when possible? (therefore extending the life?)
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so, based on the above average of expected battery life, (assuming just the tablet) can we assume under normal circumstances and usage patterns, that the transformer prime battery can be expected to last about maybe 3 or 4 years? - assuming that by this point, the battery will be well under half life. Has anyone ever had to replace a battery on an Ipad (1st gen yet?) or the original transformer?
If anyone has sent their transformers back to Asus to have the battery replaced, I would love to hear their experiences. Is this something that we should be concerned about if we want to get a good 5 years usage out of this tablet? (since battery cannot be replaced)
Another thought, ... would it be better to leave the tablet plugged in if I am near a power source to avoid using the battery when possible? (therefore extending the life?)
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I think 2 years of active use should be easy to achieve without much problems, my main concern is that since the battery is not replaceable, its resale value is much less than it would be on a phone (with replaceable battery) for example.
I don't think I would be using Prime for more than two years myself, three max. Better and more tempting things are out by then (including devices with -much- better battery life, if the new battery tech goes mainstream that increases battery life by ten times).
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Is this something that we should be concerned about if we want to get a good 5 years usage out of this tablet? (since battery cannot be replaced)
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Honestly, I think that getting a "good" 5 years usage out of a tablet is a pipe dream. Things are changing too fast for a device to have that kind of longevity. Consider that in 2010 we were looking at single-core processors, in 2011 dual-core processors, and in 2012 quad-core processors. We'll be going from Android 2.3.X on tablets in 2010 to Android 4.X in 2012. And, tablets from 2010 don't have a prayer of getting 4.X and thus will not benefit from future enhancements to the SDK and thus apps.
There's just no way that a tablet purchased late in 2011/early in 2012 will still be usable in 2016/2017. By "usable," I mean able to run current and/or generally supported apps, not to mention remaining compatible with things like Bluetooth and WiFi standards.
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25Wh Li-polymer battery in the tablet, 22Wh Li-pol in the dock. Asus says 12 hours for the tablet and 16 hours for tablet + dock playing 720p video in power saving mode.
I would imagine the charge lifespan is similar to other Li-pol batteries.
http://eee.asus.com/eeepad/transformer-prime/specification/
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an extra 4 hours only with the dock? would that be considered a smaller batt than whats in the tab or a lower grade one? didnt own the first transformer so I didnt know those specs. I would think having an extra batt in the dock would give at least 7 more hours if the tab get 12hours alone.
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25Wh Li-polymer battery in the tablet, 22Wh Li-pol in the dock. Asus says 12 hours for the tablet and 16 hours for tablet + dock playing 720p video in power saving mode.
I would imagine the charge lifespan is similar to other Li-pol batteries.
http://eee.asus.com/eeepad/transformer-prime/specification/
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18 HOURS, not 16. So 6 hours extra for the dock.
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18 HOURS, not 16. So 6 hours extra for the dock.
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Whoops, that was a typo. Yes, 18 hours.
The dock must require a fair dose of power itself, though. I was wondering, I know the dock charges the tablet, but what would happen if you plug a charged tablet into an empty dock? Does the dock still work?
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18 HOURS, not 16. So 6 hours extra for the dock.
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MUCH better! almost didn't feel the keyboard was worth the money for only 4hrs extra.
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Whoops, that was a typo. Yes, 18 hours.
The dock must require a fair dose of power itself, though. I was wondering, I know the dock charges the tablet, but what would happen if you plug a charged tablet into an empty dock? Does the dock still work?
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No problem, but with those numbers it can cause some confusion.
Yes, the dock will still work, the dock is just working as a charger when its full (so the dock battery is going empty first, then the tablet (logical)). When its empty the battery of the tablet will just kick in and power both the tablet and the dock so you can work futher.
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After some searching, I can't find a thread dedicated to *just* battery life reports.
Lots of discussion and long rants/stories/theories/anecdotes/etc/etc.
Please answer just the facts:
Just TF201 Tablet or TF201 Tablet & Dock
From what to what including Dock values if applicable
Example: 100% (tablet/dock combined) to 15%tablet/30% dock, etc. etc.
How long: number of hours ran
Usage notes: what you're doing, idle, tasks, screen brightness, tricks etc.
Please just the facts
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HOW? use this free app to measure tablet/dock battery life:
https://market.android.com/details?id=org.flexlabs.widgets.dualbattery&hl=en
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After some searching, I can't find a thread dedicated to *just* battery life reports.
Lots of discussion and long rants/stories/theories/anecdotes/etc/etc.
Please answer just the facts:
Just TF201 Tablet or TF201 Tablet & Dock
From what to what including Dock values if applicable
Example: 100% (tablet/dock combined) to 15%tablet/30% dock, etc. etc.
How long: number of hours ran
Usage notes: what you're doing, idle, tasks, screen brightness, tricks etc.
Please just the facts
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I have been using my TP docked all day. woke up this morning at like 9 with 100 on both dock + tablet and have been watching anime since . It's 8 now and my dock is 0 and my tablet is about to die as well. I'm at about 40% brightness, I was expecting better battery life though.
Sent for my Transformed Transformer Prime :>
I get about 4-5 hours use from it doing simple tasks in low power mode.... 12 hours is a lie, if i use it on and off i can make it almost al day but that is with very minimal usage.
So i say u get about 5 hours low power mode and like 3-4 hours in normal mode ( nonstop usage).
jzen: I suggest you rma for that battery life, I have a lot of issues with the prime but battery is not one of them.
robomo:
tf201no dock, 100% charge, 80% superips brightness. gps off bt off, wifi on.
playing shadowgun thd, and watching netflix lasts me about 7 to 8 hours (full usage as passenger, no breaks except 5 min bio stops etc) on my ride from reno to las vegas using my droidx hotspot for wifi net while playing shadowing thd in dead spots.
rooted ics, stock cpu frequency no special tricks.
Here's my most recent battery report. Been using it for a little bit of everything, videos, music streaming, some games, other miscellaneous apps.
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Tablet only
100% to 74%
2.5 hours
Wi-fi on, gps/sync/bluetooth off... eco-mode with backlight way down and streaming Internet radio (screen forced on whole time)
I ran mine pretty hard yesterday.
12.5 hours from 100% to 7%.
No dock, all tablet.
Watched some Dexter on Netflix, Recorded Video, used max brightness, power save, full power etc.
Surfed, Streamed, GTAIII, you name it. Used Bluetooth while streaming / gaming.
That is far more than i would ever do in a normal day.
Gotta say I am happy. My Tab 10.1 only lasted about 5-6 hours under similar load.
I guess if I averaged out each day with normal use I'm getting between 9 and 10hours in normal mode with the screen at 50 to 75% brightness. I do a lot of gaming and surfing. Since my Prime is new I'm still am doing a lot of customization. That will tail off a bit and I suspect my battery life should go up a bit. I have not rooted yet though. When I do charge it takes about 2 hours to go from under 10% to 100% on the wall charger and it turned off. I'm real happy with that.
Try this one on for size!!!
Here is my battery usage...though I will say that I am testing it for a battery spike usage so I did not use my prime at all during this time period...and you can see the issue I am having with the spike...but this is after a full charge with minimal use of just the browser from time to time....I am curious if anyone else is seeing this kind of battery spikes:
100%-29%
6 hours - at this rate I'd get roughly 8.5-9 hours out of a total charge
Tablet only, power save mode, screen forced on, low brightness, wifi on, bluetooth/gps off, streaming internet radio...
Tablet + Dock
100% tablet/100% dock to 7% tablet/0% dock
12 hours
listening to music, running TuneIn radio app in the background over wifi, screen forced on, lowest brightness.
bluetooth/sync/gps off.
Playing games, music playback, stream videos from desktop, youtube. prime only. About 7-8 hours on power saving/screen brightness 2 notch up from lowest.
Cheers!
Moderate usage juat tablet
23hr 67% left
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I don't mean to go off topic (I will update this post with my battery info with dock after I go through another charge)
does anyone have bad idle with the dock after ICS? I lose 1% every 2 hours when its just sitting there screen off in sleep mode wifi off
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Here is my battery usage...though I will say that I am testing it for a battery spike usage so I did not use my prime at all during this time period...and you can see the issue I am having with the spike...but this is after a full charge with minimal use of just the browser from time to time....I am curious if anyone else is seeing this kind of battery spikes:
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Frequently, battery "spikes" are just where there's no data for a moment--in otherwords, if you reboot your Prime, during the reboot there's a gap in the battery recording data that then looks like a spike on the graph. It could be that.
Sure the prime can idle for 2 days or more but if your interested in actual batter life during use it is realistically about 6 hours of battery life on just the prime. The dock will help you to get another 4-6 hours.
Again, non-stop usage you will get around 6 hours battery life (gaming and netflix).
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Sure the prime can idle for 2 days or more but if your interested in actual batter life during use it is realistically about 6 hours of battery life on just the prime. The dock will help you to get another 4-6 hours.
Again, non-stop usage you will get around 6 hours battery life (gaming and netflix).
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I can constantly get 8 hours non stop usage out of mine with about 7-10% remaining.....just because something happens to you that doesn't mean we are all wrong or lying..at some point you need to realize the common denominator is you
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THERE is no denying the battery life on this device is Great. WAY better than my Ipad with same type of usage. PRIME was rated at the top of tablets in battery life. Only a lil bit behind ipad2 but more than ipad1. IT clearly has the best battery life of any android tablet out there. AMAZING considering its also the most powerful tablet out now also.
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THERE is no denying the battery life on this device is Great. WAY better than my Ipad with same type of usage. PRIME was rated at the top of tablets in battery life. Only a lil bit behind ipad2 but more than ipad1. IT clearly has the best battery life of any android tablet out there. AMAZING considering its also the most powerful tablet out now also.
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It kicks Chuck Norris' ass, straight up
12 hours of 100% screen on+wifi is a *tremendous* amount of battery life in a netbook-type form factor with the dock. There's only a few that could possibly come close, but not without sacrificing weight, size or horsepower or cost - $650 is simply amazing for this kind of device....especially now that Ubuntu has been formally chrooted onto it.
But usage styles, manufacturing defects, you name it, will influence battery life.
One guy reported only getting 4-5 hours of solid tablet-only battery life, which sounds like a manufacturing defect.
I'm also extremely interested in getting a baseline "real" number - sounds like 8-9hours is 'bout right for wifi/screen on 100%
Can't wait to start tweaking the hell out of it's software wise, underclocking, smart radio on-off.
I really believed ASUS' 18 hour battery life claim, however I'm curious what it's going to take in real life.
A lot of guys will overclock the Tegra3 for more performance - they're already doing that.
I'm the opposite - give me as little clock as possible and max out the battery life - I *really* geek out when I can eek out another hour
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It kicks Chuck Norris' ass, straight up
12 hours of 100% screen on+wifi is a *tremendous* amount of battery life in a netbook-type form factor with the dock. There's only a few that could possibly come close, but not without sacrificing weight, size or horsepower or cost - $650 is simply amazing for this kind of device....especially now that Ubuntu has been formally chrooted onto it.
But usage styles, manufacturing defects, you name it, will influence battery life.
One guy reported only getting 4-5 hours of solid tablet-only battery life, which sounds like a manufacturing defect.
I'm also extremely interested in getting a baseline "real" number - sounds like 8-9hours is 'bout right for wifi/screen on 100%
Can't wait to start tweaking the hell out of it's software wise, underclocking, smart radio on-off.
I really believed ASUS' 18 hour battery life claim, however I'm curious what it's going to take in real life.
A lot of guys will overclock the Tegra3 for more performance - they're already doing that.
I'm the opposite - give me as little clock as possible and max out the battery life - I *really* geek out when I can eek out another hour
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Well you know since we rooted already, you can use system tuner pro to manually lower the Max speed to increase battery life even more. It also has some presets n there which I think it has its own power savings mode also. It might even be better than Asus
Power savings mode. Haven't tried it out yet.
Hey!
I know that it's never a good idea to leave full or empty batteries just stay without use for too long. I don't use TF201 every day and I have it shut down when I don't use it, I am wondering how the battery should be managed and if any of you have any experiences with maintaining your previous devices, like TF101 or others, in similar conditions.
I charge the device after use and then it stays that way a day or two without use due to me not having lectures or enough time off work to play with it. When I do play with it, I don't use more than 20% of battery life and then I dock it with keyboard again (which charges it again even if it is turned off, which is really nice).
Are there any bad side effects of having the device powered off and not used for a day or two? Or letting the keyboard charge the device while it is powered off? Or leaving it in charged state for a few days?
Since I cannot change the battery on TF201, I am super OCD about the battery situation to make sure it works properly throughout the ~2 years I'll be using it.
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I let it drain completely then recharge it. I don't power it off, just let 'er sleep in between work, driving, eating, etc.
Moderate usage will give me a couple days worth out of it. Charge during sleepy time, wake up, disconnect, repeat.
I found this article very interesting on batteries. Debunked alot of myths surrounding the type of battery we have.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1168036
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I found this article very interesting on batteries. Debunked alot of myths surrounding the type of battery we have.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1168036
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Really good article, thanks!
Problem is that TF201 is a special puppy, since its dock recharges the tablet even when tablet is shut off. It's not recomended to keep the battery 'full' nor 'empty' and problem with TF201 is that it keeps tablet full or drains the dock while keeping tablet full, even if tablet is shut down.
I am just wondering if this behavior is bad for battery life in the long run if I don't use it for a few days (I certainly won't keep it 'on' for days and not use it, this will certainly make it go through more recharge cycles in the long run).
That article is good for managing a single-battery device, but since tablet with dock takes over a lot of charge-or-not decisions, it's a little different.
It's basically question about which is worse, going through definite amount of recharge cycles quicker because it is on and needs to be charged every now and then or letting it shut down and used when needed like a laptop.
Maybe I'm thinking too much and it doesn't really matter, but it just made me curious since I never had TF101, so I can't really rely on that experience.
We can buy the TF201 battery, can't we?
If yes, I don't think you should worry much.
Within a year or two, the battery should be still in perfect or near perfect condition.
If not, then buy a new battery.
By that time frame, most of us would have been buy a new tablet anyway
Make sense? no?
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We can buy the TF201 battery, can't we?
If yes, I don't think you should worry much.
Within a year or two, the battery should be still in perfect or near perfect condition.
If not, then buy a new battery.
By that time frame, most of us would have been buy a new tablet anyway
Make sense? no?
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TF201 battery is not user-replaceable. It needs to be done by ASUS or you're breaking warranty. I don't even think ASUS will sell these batteries.
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TF201 battery is not user-replaceable. It needs to be done by ASUS or you're breaking warranty. I don't even think ASUS will sell these batteries.
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Ok, thanks for the info, I did not know that.
But still, if I have a tablet, I won't keep it for more than 2 years most probably
And on my experience, for two years, battery will still be good.
gogol said:
Ok, thanks for the info, I did not know that.
But still, if I have a tablet, I won't keep it for more than 2 years most probably
And on my experience, for two years, battery will still be good.
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Yeah, possible. I'll shake that OCD'ness off me then I suppose. I've just always had user-replaceable battery Android devices simply because I don't pay attention to how badly I mistreat the battery, I can always replace it. But with TF201 I have to pay some attention
Is there a way to signal the keyboard dock to start charging only when the tablet has 20% charge left?
I leave the dock connected all the time and the tablet is constantly being charged by the dock.
the lithium ion battery is fine you can let it sit for months and months, you can charge it every 5 minutes, you dont have to let it drain out or manage it just let it do its thing!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006J90GBY/ref=oh_o01_s00_i00_details
I just recieved this in the mail today and am charging them as I write this. Seemed like a fair price for what I hope are quality batteries. If they last a year I'll feel like I got my money's worth.
I'll post updates on their longevity compared to the stock battery once I go through a cycle or two.
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006J90GBY/ref=oh_o01_s00_i00_details
I just recieved this in the mail today and am charging them as I write this. Seemed like a fair price for what I hope are quality batteries. If they last a year I'll feel like I got my money's worth.
I'll post updates on their longevity compared to the stock battery once I go through a cycle or two.
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I got this as well and it's on its way. I hope to simply rotate them well enough that I get good longevity between the three (the two from this purchase and the OEM one).
i also got them they seem to work just fine
I trust that these batteries will work just as well as the OEM one...in terms of both battery life and overall longevity. Based mostly on the fact it's a US based company.
Unlike those HK ones...that sell for cheaper...but they're lucky to even hold a normal charge for like 3 months. Basically, we get what we pay for...more often than not.
I just ordered this off of Amazon. I figured for the low price it was worth the risk.
I've had them since Note Day #1 (2/17) and they are def worth the money. I just can't say how long they hold a charge, since I haven't kept track yet. My guess is that they don't last quite as long as an oem batt. But they don't seem horrendous and 2 batts and a charger to your door for about $30 is hard to not be happy with.
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I had an issue with mine today...
Left a battery on the charger overnight and got up and the light showing it was still charging the next morning....Tried another battery and over 4 hours later, the same thing happened...Put another battery in there, and within an hour (battery wasn't empty), it turned blue letting me know charge was complete (and phone showed 100%).
Got another one in there now and it's been there for about 2 hours, and the light shows it's still charging.
Is there a charger out there that has a display so you can tell what's going on??
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you cant buy cheap quality batteries and expect the performance of quality batteries it just wont happen, thats why you need 3 instead of 1
http://www.kevikev.com/Yoobao-2500m...-Note-High-Capacity-Battery-YB2000MAHNOTE.htm
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I think the charger is the issue...not the batteries...
Take a look at this calculator:
http://www.csgnetwork.com/batterychgcalc.html
The charger this comes with outputs DC4.2V~350mA~±50mA. Using the link to the calculator above, you should expect a 2600mAh battery to fully charge with this charger in about 9 HOURS!!
I'll post updates as I find out more.
gtnote said:
i use this one but havent tried it with the note battery since i had the iPhone but let me find it and see if the battery fits and how it charges. i know its adjustable and charges most cell batteries but the note battery is kind of big
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That charger charges at 550MA(MAX). That should take 5.37 hours at best. Still a far cry from the 1000mA that the stock charger uses.
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found it, does fit but ill need to dran a battery to find out how long it takes to full charge a 2500mah battery. bothh my batteries are full so ill let you know tomorrow
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Thanks!!!
Sorry..Duplicate!!!
gtnote said:
consider the fact that you should not drain a bettery beyond 25% or you will shorten the life of it because the work to hard and overheat beyond that so your talking about 75% of 5.37 hours = 4.0275 hours and i dont think thats a big issue unless your battery doesnt make it 4 hours and trickle charge is better on a battery??
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I was under the impression (maybe mistakenly!!) that for the first few charge cycles of a battery, you wanted to fully discharge and charge it...then after that...you can you can go back to the 75% rule.
At least that's the way it is with Lithium Poly Batteries.
Am I wrong?
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I guess this thread is dead?
It would be nice to get an update from those who bought these batteries 8, 10 or 12 months ago... to see how they held up.
I've been researching Hyperion and I've found quite mixed reviews... Several places I found photos (obviously can't be truly verified) of Hyperion batteries with the labels peeled back to reveal the metal shells which appeared to be stamped/marked (presumably by the ORIGINAL manufacturer) with different product ID codes, serial #s, as well as significantly lower mAh ratings than Hyperion's outer sticker.
I'm curious if any of those who started this thread still have their batteries... How have they held up? Are they still good?
Does anyone still have one of these batteries that they're no longer using? Would you be willing to try stripping back the label to check to see what you find under it...
I do believe that there probably are some companies that actually do make good, less expensive alternatives. But the scammers need to be exposed...
Here's a quick over view of my experience with this battery. So far I've been very impressed getting over 10 hours in SOT. It makes the phone about twice as thick at the bottom 2/3 but is actually quite nice to hold still and not too heavy. The actual capacity is massive I'm sure its the 6000mah they claim which is surprising considering how cheap it is relative to the other brands.
The back cover that comes with it does feel cheap and flimsy but I purchased the honeycomb case with the battery so that is not a big issue for me. My major concern with this battery is its voltage. On the battery it is printed that the Max charge voltage for the battery is 4.2V (the standard lithium ion Max voltage) but the lg g3 takes its battery up to 4.35 volts (due to modern phones using a slightly different li on chemistry). Constantly taking the battery to 4.35 volts when it is only designed for 4.2volts will significantly shorten its cycle life. For this reason I'm using an app called Battery charge limit to only charge my phone to 92% which is equivalent to around 4.2 volts.
Overall highly recommend it and the honeycomb case if you want to give your lg g3 a new lease on life and massive battery life without breaking the bank. Time will tell how long it'll hold up. Saw reviews saying after 6 months the battery swells up but hopefully by limiting how full it charged to that can be prevented.
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Here's a quick over view of my experience with this battery. So far I've been very impressed getting over 10 hours in SOT. It makes the phone about twice as thick at the bottom 2/3 but is actually quite nice to hold still and not too heavy. The actual capacity is massive I'm sure its the 6000mah they claim which is surprising considering how cheap it is relative to the other brands.
The back cover that comes with it does feel cheap and flimsy but I purchased the honeycomb case with the battery so that is not a big issue for me. My major concern with this battery is its voltage. On the battery it is printed that the Max charge voltage for the battery is 4.2V (the standard lithium ion Max voltage) but the lg g3 takes its battery up to 4.35 volts (due to modern phones using a slightly different li on chemistry). Constantly taking the battery to 4.35 volts when it is only designed for 4.2volts will significantly shorten its cycle life. For this reason I'm using an app called Battery charge limit to only charge my phone to 92% which is equivalent to around 4.2 volts.
Overall highly recommend it and the honeycomb case if you want to give your lg g3 a new lease on life and massive battery life without breaking the bank. Time will tell how long it'll hold up. Saw reviews saying after 6 months the battery swells up but hopefully by limiting how full it charged to that can be prevented.
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from where did you buy?
I'm in Australia so don't have access to Amazon so I got it straight off their website http://www.mpjbattery.com/mpjr-6000...ile-d850-at-t-vs985-verizon-ls990-sprint.html also have the honey comb case on there. If you're in US or UK or some magical place that has amazon you can get it off there.
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I'm in Australia so don't have access to Amazon so I got it straight off their website http://www.mpjbattery.com/mpjr-6000...ile-d850-at-t-vs985-verizon-ls990-sprint.html also have the honey comb case on there. If you're in US or UK or some magical place that has amazon you can get it off there.
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no 855 suport
Breno Spangler said:
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Don't all g3 models use same battery? I have the d855 and it works fine. You lose NFC and wireless charging but I didn't use em anyway.
As long as your battery is BL-53YH it fits fine
Ah yes. That one I got aswell.
Not only acts as awesome battery, but comes with a SUPER COMFY case (feels icky going back to the usual case, this is way more handfriendly)
It should work for D855 too;
I bought one from aliexpress which was stating 7500 mah but the SOT is still the same with original battery. I tried some apps to estimate the capacity which actually was ~3000 mah.
So I dont want to waste money again. Can you share some screenshots for your SOT? BTW the shape of the battery and back cover is the same as this one
Nah haven't got any screenshots sorry mate, my g3 died of the dreaded screen flickering and fading bug. Trying to sell my extended battery now actually. But anyway I guarantee its an extended battery was getting 6+ hrs sot when I was getting 3 before. You can also look at the Hyperion 6000mah battery pretty sure it's a clone of the mpj or the other way around. You can look for YouTube videos of people using the battery too btw. Cheers.
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Nah haven't got any screenshots sorry mate, my g3 died of the dreaded screen flickering and fading bug. Trying to sell my extended battery now actually. But anyway I guarantee its an extended battery was getting 6+ hrs sot when I was getting 3 before. You can also look at the Hyperion 6000mah battery pretty sure it's a clone of the mpj or the other way around. You can look for YouTube videos of people using the battery too btw. Cheers.
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Sorry about your phone but PMed you about your battery...
http://techlife.samsung.com/tips-keep-smartphone-charged-1059.html
Charge Regularly
To get the most out of your smartphone's battery, you'll need to charge it properly. Most smartphones have a lithium-ion battery that lives longer when charged regularly. Unlike the nickel batteries used in older phones, lithium-ion batteries do best when kept above a 50 percent charge. Repeatedly allowing the battery to drain fully may shorten its life and decrease its overall capacity. If this happens, you'll need to charge the battery more frequently and it may last only a few hours before needing a charge, for example.
Your battery will also perform better if you don't let it charge to 100 percent, so take it off the charger at about 80 to 90 percent capacity. Leaving the phone connected to the charger when the phone is completely charged may lower battery life if you do it repeatedly.
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This is the ultimate battery charging explanation and guide:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/a15731/best-way-to-keep-li-ion-batteries-charged/
I always follow this. Installing AccuBattery app will help you with this.
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Wow I did not know any of this. I will be following this thanks for sharing.
how long is the battery lasting if you are only going down to 50 and up to 90?
Gees! Below 50% really. I would tend to agree somewhat. I never let my phone fall below 20% and usually charge until 97% more or less. But 90-50. I don't want to be walking around with a battery back. I need my phone to last all day and 40% of the battery just won't cut it.
Xuck that !! I have a 3000mah battery for a reason if it goes then it goes ill most likely have another phone by then.Not gonna sit here to nickel and dime my usage that's not why I got this phone .
GM makes the Li batteries last in the volt and bolt 10 years by not letting the car drain the batteries more than 2/3rds down, leaving the batteries at 1/3rd charge. Tesla does it too.
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Nah, I don't own my phones for more than a year so this doesn't apply to me. I'd rather keep using it from 100-1 just like I've been doing for years. I wouldn't be able to stand only getting an hour of use and charging it 3 times a day.
This battery information applies to all devices that use this type of battery be they Samsung or other brands. Its not just the Note 8. It applies equally to your Oral-B tooth brush! :laugh:
Ryland
this is a good habit to charge often at 50%. i usually let the battery run down to like 20% or less then charge. then when i have to go somewhere and i cant play with my phone anymore cus i worry i going to run down the battery.
Question are the "300-2500" charge cycles just as it says? I mean if I put it on the charger in the car for a 10 minute drive is that a cycle along with an overnight charge? If it is we should really only be putting it on the charger from the 50-90% with a guaranteed fast charge time of at least 30+mins to get the maximum charge cycles for the lifespan?
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This is the ultimate battery charging explanation and guide:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/a15731/best-way-to-keep-li-ion-batteries-charged/
I always follow this. Installing AccuBattery app will help you with this.
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This was a really well written down to earth article about battery care. Thank you. I still have friends, family, and coworkers that insist on running their batteries to 0%. I can't convince them otherwise. Although my batteries degrade, it's never been anything easy shattering. Just notice an hour or two shaved of over a couple years life. As the article states, there is no way around this and I won't be a slave to my battery. In that note, I top off when I can.
My battery on my old phone tended to get to around the 40% at the end fo the work day, then I'd plug it in usually around the 20-30% and it still lasted 2+ years 'til I got a new battery. Now it's about 50% at the end of the day. But with Fast Charge, what do they expect people to do, plug it in for an hour, then unplug it, then go to sleep, wake up with 60% battery, go to work and then charge it for an hour when you get there?
The lie of requiring a non replaceable battery for water proofing is also an issue. Forced obsolescence sucks....
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The lie of requiring a non replaceable battery for water proofing is also an issue. Forced obsolescence sucks....
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Too black and white.
It is possible to offer some water resistance to a mobile that has a removable battery, S5 for eg.
In general such water resistance is small and is often abused by the owner causing problems. Hardly any owner reads the instruction manual that outlines what ones device can and cannot do, what the IP rating means in REAL terms etc
"Forced obsolescence" mmmmm, a battery can be changed in the Note 8. I understand your point though.
Ryland
this has been around for years. Doesn't make it very convenient to use nothing below 50%! I'd need at least an 8000 mh battery!! Therefore Samsung IS using too small a batteries in its top of the range device!
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this guff has been around for years. Doesn't make it very convenient to use nothing below 50%! I'd need at least an 8000 mh battery!! Therefore Samsung IS using too smaller batteries in its top of the range device!
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Totaly agree......
We then have to ask 'ourselves' WHY! Who forced Mobile brands to make anorexic devices? WE DID. We wanted thin small large wide slim ...........we got it and now pay the price.
I personally don't care if the device is thicker with a larger battery, for me its not a problem. For so many size was a major issue so the manufacture's listened and came up with these ultra thin mobiles that are vulnerable to dropping and breaking etc. off topic.
I find it totally bizarre that we spend mega bucks on such devices only to find we are educated to use them on software that reduces said mobile to the performance of a phone costing 100€! I may add many posters where disappointed when the Note 8 didn't have a 4k screen! Can you imagine the battery issues then?
Now we read this Samsung article and find we would need to charge our mobile several times a day as well as run it on a vastly reduced software programme. In reality that article is saying the battery is only operating efficiently at 40% of its total capacity before we start to degrade its life! Its all so absurd. What are we doing here folks?
Only one answer to this, either drop the performance OR vastly improve battery technology and fast.
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I'm not sure how usefull this is for the new samsung phones though, as the release of the S8 Samsung improved the battery.
Samsung Mobile R&D VP Bookeun Oh told me, "I focused on maintaining the durability of the battery over the long term, over hundreds of charging cycles. For example, after approximately six months of normal usage, the battery in the S8 will outperform previous batteries. While most batteries hold about 80 percent of their charge after two years in usual cases, this battery should be capable of 95 percent of its original capacity."
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PC mag S8 review
I am sorry but i will use my phone all day and charge overnight. If you can't use past 50% what is the point???? My pixel xl i have had since day 1 and use all day everyday and charge overnight and noticed no real decrease in battery life except a little change with oreo!
Outdated info and not necessary.
0% on your device is still considerably above what is considered the bottom line cell voltage before excessive discharge detrimental affects capacity.
A lot of engineering has gone into these devices to squeeze every possible mAh out of the packs, have a decent life expectancy AND operate safely. There is no need to strive for certain numbers and forcibly change your usage habits. There may or may not be a demonstrably better result long term but honestly is it worth worrying about?
And for removable packs...
Forget it. That's a thing of the past.
If devices had battery life like the Skyrocket, sure I see the NEED for a swappable pack.
But not now.
Having a sealed device makes it feel solid and keeps intrusion protection intact.
Holding an older device in hand, it seems almost laughable today. It creaks and groans and feels super cheap in comparison like some dollar store toy!